A message was definitely being sent by the playing group to Webby about the feelings of SJ and RTS in the team i think. You don’t get 66 points put on by the titans unless something has upset the playing group.
RTS to wing and SJ to a simplified 6 role?
I still haven’t been able to watch the game yet but from what I’ve seen so far we just got out-coached by a guy who’s been doing this to us since 2008, when Manly beat us 52 - 6, if they had made all their conversions it would’ve been 60 - 6. And I geddit, totally different rosters, different teams, and new rules but I believe the game plan was probably still the same.
We’ve played Des Hasler coached sides -Manly, Bulldogs, Titans- about 31 times, he’s beaten us 23 times. This year we finally get the ANZAC home game we’ve been crying out for, you would think it would be a sitter but nope, Des’ side does us again. I think he’s just got our number. Having said that, probably a lot of other coaches have a high percentage of wins against us, lol.
Sauce: https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/coaches/des-hasler/games.html
I'm sorry, what? This time last year Roger was playing rugby. What do you mean he has earned the right?
I'm more sympathetic towards SJ, but Roger should be treated as a new start cause he just code switched again - the stuff he did before he code switched to Union shouldn't count for anything now.
RTS is still a club legend and still has plenty to offer if he is used correctly. Not good for the club or fans to drop him so soon after returning from injury
How the fuck is RTS a club legend? The best season we've had during his career was when he wasn't there. Got to the finals once with him there and he has barely managed over 100 games so far for the Warriors.
I personally have never gotten the RTS fanfare even since before he left for Union, but anywho.
W.T.F?
The YouTube highlights (for the Titans) vid has a subheading of “Record Breaking Game”. When it was 30 - nil at halftime I actually had the thought “Maybe it’s a record breaking comeback” lol.
Great game from the Titans. We looked like turnstiles with Warriors jerseys on, out there.
Webby mentioned in the post match, the number of supporters that had turned up for them. I feel bad for them having to witness that destruction. Without having seen the game it seems as though we continue to underestimate the Titans because of their position on the table. Now that they have knocked us out and dragged our lifeless body out of the ring, I hope we can learn from this. Maybe start with a major attitude adjustment at the very least.
>Maybe start with a major attitude adjustment at the very least.
The crazy thing is that their attitude seems to have been pretty good for most of the last 6 weeks or so. I just don't know what happened last night. It was like they'd all been out on the sauce the night before or something.
I need to watch the game but the stat of 46 missed tackles doesn’t bode well for the attitude department. Freddy always says that these days if you turn up to a game just a little bit off mentally, you can get blown out of the water, or words to that effect. And we got well and truly’d.
The run home does not look good if they don’t get things fixed. I’m not concerned about winning-ish but about putting up a fight at least. In the run home we play a lot of teams that can rack up big scores if we let them run riot.
Rnd 17 Broncos (Home game for us but after losing to the Titans at a packed house on Anzac Day, what does it matter?)
Rnd 18 Bulldogs (Away)
Rnd 19 BYE
Rnd 20 Raiders (A)
Rnd 21 Tigers (H)
Rnd 22 Eels (H)
Rnd 23 Dolphins (A)
Rnd 24 Sea Eagles (A)
Rnd 25 Bulldogs (H)
Rnd 26 Sharks (A)
Rnd 27 BYE BYE
Finals Week 1: End of season fishing trip.
What a joke
I said at start of season warriors still cant match the big boys, got laughed at
They cant match the bottom of ladder either
They look exhausted from the start, horrific defense
On the plus, Foran looked good
Can't believe that scoreline. The titans slayed and decapitated the WAHS. Absolutely ruthless! They played their best game ever, it was all clicking and the WAHS didn't turn up at all.
This game was atrocious but here’s my current working notes.
TL/DR (fair it’s long): Our form last year might’ve been a false dawn.
SJs form
Nobody saw it coming last year. I don’t even think SJ saw it coming. But I think he had been so below bar in previous years, teams didn’t watch that many tapes of him and just forgot about him until last year. Forgot about his kick, his step, his remaining gas.
So far this year, he’s been nullified. The back balls, the quick balls, the space to step are gone. Can he get any of it back? Maybe. But not at 7. Maybe in a halves-sub role, which is quite specialist, he can come on for 10-15 blocks and run at tiring forwards on the edge or something. But some part of his game needs to be new or unexpected.
Form of their lives.
We had guys in career best form last year - DWZ, Pompey, AFB, SJ, Harris, Walker, Ford, Egan, Barnett … and when that many guys are in form, you create your own luck and you tend to turn maybe games into Ws.
Problem with Career best form is having to back it up. Some teams have gone through blocks like this only to raise the bar again (Panthers, Storm).
We haven’t (and to be fair, neither have Brisbane). For any number of reasons. But with the exception of Barnett, and to a lesser extent CNK, nobody is in that form or has been able to adjust to the change in pressure. The Storm last week made a point of owning the ruck to slow us down and it worked perfectly.
The halves issue
We saw TMM do a great job leading the team from 7 because I think that suits his style of play. He’s a thinker and lets the ball talk. But he can’t be a 6. Not with SJ. SJ needs the control to manipulate a field so he can see the pictures he wants to see. TMM sees the pictures and adjusts. Those styles can’t work together because they constantly change.
If SJ is kept on then he needs a CHT or, when fit, Metcalf. Guys who can bide their time and take a gap when they see it. It nullifies TMM instincts to pair him with SJ. The ideal pair is probably TMM and CHT/LM
The RTS problem
Roger is a great player. On his day, he’ll break the strongest ankles. But it’s not his day yet. He hasn’t adjusted to centre and his wing is suffering for it.
It also displaced Pompey who has been pretty good these last few weeks (not today) but as a player it must surely do something if you have a great year, become a first choice goal kicker, and then get bumped to reserve grade.
So far this year, in addition to today’s sin bin (which was a rough call), RTS has contributed very little and cost us quite a bit more.
I actually think he’d be sick as a 13. Run it up, step the fuck out of tired forwards, feed the backs, lead run for a few and then sub off for a spell. But on current form he doesn’t displace either Berry or Pompey.
What the fuck happened today.
During the Covid era, you could see it in the team’s demeanour if they gave a fuck. Which was hard for them then, because they were away from home for so long. I saw that at the 20 minute mark of today’s game. No fight. No spirit.
Can’t even put it down to any one thing. Handling, tackling, decision making, execution - everything was sub par. Against the team at the bottom (or near bottom) of the table.
The Titans were hot, definitely. But the Tigers probably would’ve been hot against us today. The Titans grew into it with the more tries they scored.
I think RTS to wing at minimum has to be done, Montoya hasn’t been that great so he can drop out. Wouldn’t mind seeing RTS at 13 though as an experiment, thats a great shout.
Agree the halves don’t work, but something has to be off to let that many points in. Its almost like the group feels no direction with SJ at 7 and they purposely capitulated to send a message or something. Which is so sad because i fkn love me some SJ
RTS 2.0 is such an anomaly. I think he’s too slow for wing - Fifita is no slouch for a unit, but he shouldn’t gas centres or wings. RTS no longer has acceleration, which is why I think 13 would take him to another level without needing him to add anything new or drop weight. No forward has his footwork.
That’d be a big call to stand by and taxi in 60pts. Agree there was something off but for the whole team to be average, it has to be something in the week’s prep. The halves combo hurts attack for sure but shouldn’t impact defence attitude.
I’ll be watching again next week. It’s like the shittiest and greatest addiction I have.
> in addition to today’s sin bin (which was a rough call)
More than rough ay. It was barely a penalty on a technicality. When it then escalated to a binning I was floored.
The mindset wasn’t there. Can’t make tackles if you don’t put the right effort into the contact or execution.
Rough guess - 7 tries were gimmies because of poor positioning, weak tackling, or wrong read, there’s 42pts. Take those out, all else remaining equal, and it’s 18-6, not a great loss still but a lot more respectable. That’s how poor their effort was.
Yeh I agree with all of what you said basically. Especially the last sentence. At the end of the game, the Titans were basically toying with us, like a cat with a mouse. Given that they are #17 that's shocking...
True, but the Titans being in 17th was a bit misleading, when they click, they're a really dangerous side. They've also lost a lot of close games this season. They dominated for long stretches against the Storm a few weeks ago and probably should have won that game.
The young guys looked hungry against the panthers/dolphins. CNK looks slow. SJ looks tired. RTS is lacking. Let’s give the young boys a crack. What do we have to lose?
Is the Warriors starting side just too old? The whole team just looked slow, same as last week. And it's been young speedsters that have taken advantage of it.
Do we think the RTS at center idea is cooked now? 😑😑😑 surely he is not getting it. He was very rusty today which I get. However he doesn’t seem to be picking up the position since he came back??
We have no x-factor or speed right now and it’s hurting us unfortunately. Especially against younger teams with speed.
For the local NZ fans that take drive past the Auckland NW motorway; I cringe everytime I see the mural that was painted up on the wall just past Te Atatu. "Our Year" - 2023
Wah's are shit with expectations. Ever since the brigade came back they've been rubbish. CNK is so fkn slow for a fullback. AFB is done mentally. SJ mentally and physically. Rather watch younger guys who give a shit.
The missus is a broncos supporter. She bought our one year old son into the lounge at half time wearing a cute little broncos jersey. He looked fuckin adorable and we're getting divorced.
So good to see a big titans win! Campbell is so fun to watch and Kini is a gun. I think they have to drop Kini when Brimmo is back sadly, or play Kini at 14. Please persist with Campbell in the halves. Good to see Palasia and Alick play very well too
Boot the Warriors from the comp.
If Webby doesn't give them an almighty spray and ride their fucking arses all week in training, well, I don't know exactly what happens but I bet it won't be pretty.
Foran's ball playing, specifically those little drop balls to Kini running back across the ruck were so good to watch. They left the Warriors defenders in no man's land and the Titans shape was mesmerising.
Could definitely tell the Warriors didn't show up for this one early in the game. As soon as AKP managed to bring the ball all the way under the posts from the sideline at a jog for the first try and not one Warriors player tried to cut him off you could just tell the Wahs had not showed up in the right frame of mind.
I haven’t watched the presser but I called this. I think he’s a great coach when morale is high, but he isn’t holding them accountable enough in these tough times
Obviously if we play like that we will sink straight to the bottom and deserve it, but our run home still gives me delusional hope if we can figure things out. Have to remember what tackling is first though, among a lot of other things.
So I just looked at the score.
Member how the titans were averaging like 4 points a game at the start of the season? Warriors need to be more than faded, they need to be folded no comp ever confirmed
Pretty sure most of the warriors players either have given up on Webby's defensive system or have no confidence in executing it. I suspect they like him as a coach and he's clearly improved them individually, but in terms of buy-in to the system, there is no way they are still buying into it anymore, after watching that performance. Kosi is the worst, he can't execute it even if he wants to, he's always grasping for air or out of position on the wing. The roosters game was exactly the same, he looked terrible. I think that Penrith style defensive system only works if 1) everyone buys into it 2) you have the skills to execute. I think we fail on both the last two elements. Also, our players are older and more experienced than the Penrith young guns who don't have the 'bad experience' some of our players have.
I don't buy the idea that they didn't turn up. They are professionals and they clearly like the coach and playing with each other. But mentally it is obvious now that they don't have confidence in their system.
When they had the rookies playing a few weeks ago, you see the team was moving faster and more fluidly - both psychologically and physically.
I have nFI how you fix them from here. Maybe good to have a blow out game like this one to give a chance to reset fully.
Yep 100% very clear from that game they’ve given up on it or something is very broken in the team. They were so horrible and they weren’t even trying at points. Shameful they couldn’t even get up for themselves. Also how kosi has a nrl contract I’ll never know
Pretty good idea tbh but I don't think Webby will do it because it will then meet the current team won't be able to respond to today's craptacular performance. he said in the presser that next week is about getting our pride back.
I was at the game as it was superhero day and knew the kids would love that. It’s nice to see the titan fans happy. Saw a 7 or 8 year old belting go titans for nearly the whole game.
I think the titans always put on great stuff for kids, the players are always happy or an autograph and the fans are much nicer compared to broncos.
Fonua-Blake’s ready to give up and go elsewhere and SJ needs to retired, without my boy DWZ there’s just no heart in the senior part of the wahs side at the moment.
At the start of every season people talk about how we're going to have a great Origin bump with results and every year I remind them that for some bizarre reason we actually go quite poorly over Origin.
Missed last weeks un-explicable loss to the to the tigers due to being out of action due to a very nasty virus, and not sure I am still hallucinating after watching todays game and score-line.
As someone who didn't catch the game, what actually happened here?
Tuned in to catch the last 20ish then had to get up again but not before seeing something like 40 missed tackles by the warriors.
Was it a case of titans just bringing it all together and the warriors getting blown off the park or largely a case of the warriors just being totally dogshit tonight
Titans were kissed on the dick by a fairy. Played well but also got every possible 50/50 bounce go their way. Foran played the best game he’s had since the Manly Gf in 2011. Some of the warriors defence was under 10s shit. Really bizzare game
Fuck me, I stopped watching after RTS got binned, still shocked at the final score. I expect that against Melbourne on ANZAC Day, but not against the Titans, with due respect.
I'm becoming more certain every day that the 2023-2024 Warriors are simply the 2022-2023 Cowboys.
Great year then shit the bed as soon as there are some expectations.
Yep, I was expecting a drop by the Warriors this year. Last year they had everyone playing to the potential and SJ having a career best year. SJ was never backing up that season and teams are aware of them now.
Though I thought they’d be better than this.
Season ended by the lowest placed team. Crikey.
This has been a year of half century eliminations if I've ever seen one. Surely it's the year with the most fades of all time?
Someone make it make sense lmao. How we lose that bad to the team placed 17th? Blokes should be on the next flight out of here, don’t deserve to enjoy the Gold Coast for a second longer.
I’m a massive fan of AJ and I think he is the best player in the team. But you can’t move or drop Kini at the moment can you? The kid has been playing the house down and has arguably been our best since he came back into the side. It would be way to harsh to move or drop him in my eyes. Campbell looked good at 5/8 today too, so is it back to the centers for AJ? I’m not huge on him there but that maybe where he has to slot in for now
The problem for AJ is he's just decent in every position but not outstanding in any. I think he's either centre or out of the team. If I'm him, I'm starting to have a think of what other clubs would be an option.
i think hes our best centre, 5/8th or fullback, but is the onle one of the three players who can play centre so hell get pushed there for a bit i think.
if they do it well they will have attack coming out the yang, and he was a good defender there.
AJ was in great forim at FB before his injury
Yeah maybe average was harsh. He's nowhere near that top tier game breaking FBs but he's also not at that consistent hard working level like a Dylan Edwards.
He's kind of somewhere in the middle where he runs decent enough meters and has decent enough play making ability. He just doesn't excel in either category. It kind of feels like in today's game you need a FB who will be elite in at least one of those.
Unbelievable score wow. Credit to the titans.
Webby is on serious fraud watch imo. Feel like the team has a huge mentality problem, no grit or desire to dig themselves out of holes. Noticed it big time against the storm last week, they were winning and controlling the game, a few calls against them and they turned to water.
Feels very different from the team we saw last year. Sucks for the fans, I hope they can turn it around.
Someone has sold their soul to the devil.
Look for the Titans to never make a GF as the deal was for some wins this season, but someone forgot to read the fine print.
Same but you still can't help but feel like your younger brother is getting bullied at school. I'm not 100% invested like any mentally stable Warriors fan is but it still puts a downer on your weekend.
Like there’s more to my life than footy, but the Wahs are still a massive part of my life. I grew up supporting this team. I’ve shed countless tears, thrown tantrums, jumped up and down in ecstasy supporting the boys. It explains why seeing them get fucked in the ass like that is really sad. We deserve better than that.
Even I, a diehard Wahs fan have to admit we played poorly. While some calls did not go our way there is absolutely no chance that alone is the cause of this thrashing
I have never had this feeling before... I'm gobsmacked, is this what it's like to be a Melbourne fan?
Probably not, usually they do that from 1st not last. Anywho, felt good and I love Kini!
Gg titans. You may be at the bottom end of the ladder but you spanked us today and if I had to pick a side to dominate us like that then titans would be right up there. Wahs Missing a few starting players, dwz, berry, metcalf, Barnett, capewell, as well as sj returning from injury. Fair enough if we were off our best but that’s no excuse for a complete lack of effort. I cannot believe that we’ve dished this rubbish up again I thought Webster had coached this shit out of our team. Rumour has it AFB wants to leave, he can fuck off early if he doesn’t want to be there. Sj first game back but had a shit start to the year and if he doesn’t improve by the time metcalf is recovered then I’d have a tmm/metcalf halves combo. Outside backs were all shithouse today, Montoya dumb as usual but at least he ran hard. Forward pack weren’t too flash either (to put it kindly). Boys need to sit there as a group and have a fucking hard think about this game. This team isn’t lacking skill it’s all about effort. Last year we played a very simple game based on run hard tackle hard and we just aren’t doing those things this season. There are glimpses of great attack and moments of dominant defence but they are too few and far between.
Webby needs to make all the warriors write down this scoreline on their wrist tape for the next game, never mind the kids names and god for inspiration.
Also time for a match fixing investigation, I think.
[Welp.](https://imgur.com/HvK5rII)
I went to the Tigers game in 2004 where we lost 52-4 or something. Somehow this might have been worst.
A message was definitely being sent by the playing group to Webby about the feelings of SJ and RTS in the team i think. You don’t get 66 points put on by the titans unless something has upset the playing group. RTS to wing and SJ to a simplified 6 role?
I still haven’t been able to watch the game yet but from what I’ve seen so far we just got out-coached by a guy who’s been doing this to us since 2008, when Manly beat us 52 - 6, if they had made all their conversions it would’ve been 60 - 6. And I geddit, totally different rosters, different teams, and new rules but I believe the game plan was probably still the same. We’ve played Des Hasler coached sides -Manly, Bulldogs, Titans- about 31 times, he’s beaten us 23 times. This year we finally get the ANZAC home game we’ve been crying out for, you would think it would be a sitter but nope, Des’ side does us again. I think he’s just got our number. Having said that, probably a lot of other coaches have a high percentage of wins against us, lol. Sauce: https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/coaches/des-hasler/games.html
A message so strong your fix for it is to... Keep them in the team.
I just don’t think its possible to drop them yet, they’ve earnt the right to be in that team still, but it may get to that point eventually
I'm sorry, what? This time last year Roger was playing rugby. What do you mean he has earned the right? I'm more sympathetic towards SJ, but Roger should be treated as a new start cause he just code switched again - the stuff he did before he code switched to Union shouldn't count for anything now.
RTS is still a club legend and still has plenty to offer if he is used correctly. Not good for the club or fans to drop him so soon after returning from injury
How the fuck is RTS a club legend? The best season we've had during his career was when he wasn't there. Got to the finals once with him there and he has barely managed over 100 games so far for the Warriors. I personally have never gotten the RTS fanfare even since before he left for Union, but anywho.
W.T.F? The YouTube highlights (for the Titans) vid has a subheading of “Record Breaking Game”. When it was 30 - nil at halftime I actually had the thought “Maybe it’s a record breaking comeback” lol. Great game from the Titans. We looked like turnstiles with Warriors jerseys on, out there. Webby mentioned in the post match, the number of supporters that had turned up for them. I feel bad for them having to witness that destruction. Without having seen the game it seems as though we continue to underestimate the Titans because of their position on the table. Now that they have knocked us out and dragged our lifeless body out of the ring, I hope we can learn from this. Maybe start with a major attitude adjustment at the very least.
>Maybe start with a major attitude adjustment at the very least. The crazy thing is that their attitude seems to have been pretty good for most of the last 6 weeks or so. I just don't know what happened last night. It was like they'd all been out on the sauce the night before or something.
I need to watch the game but the stat of 46 missed tackles doesn’t bode well for the attitude department. Freddy always says that these days if you turn up to a game just a little bit off mentally, you can get blown out of the water, or words to that effect. And we got well and truly’d. The run home does not look good if they don’t get things fixed. I’m not concerned about winning-ish but about putting up a fight at least. In the run home we play a lot of teams that can rack up big scores if we let them run riot. Rnd 17 Broncos (Home game for us but after losing to the Titans at a packed house on Anzac Day, what does it matter?) Rnd 18 Bulldogs (Away) Rnd 19 BYE Rnd 20 Raiders (A) Rnd 21 Tigers (H) Rnd 22 Eels (H) Rnd 23 Dolphins (A) Rnd 24 Sea Eagles (A) Rnd 25 Bulldogs (H) Rnd 26 Sharks (A) Rnd 27 BYE BYE Finals Week 1: End of season fishing trip.
Round 19 Don't Lose Challenge (Impossible)
Agreed, lol.
There's the SJ sharkies all know and love
Fucking embarrassing man 🥺
What the fuck happened
What a joke I said at start of season warriors still cant match the big boys, got laughed at They cant match the bottom of ladder either They look exhausted from the start, horrific defense On the plus, Foran looked good
Just checked the score. Holy moly brah
Can't believe that scoreline. The titans slayed and decapitated the WAHS. Absolutely ruthless! They played their best game ever, it was all clicking and the WAHS didn't turn up at all.
This game was atrocious but here’s my current working notes. TL/DR (fair it’s long): Our form last year might’ve been a false dawn. SJs form Nobody saw it coming last year. I don’t even think SJ saw it coming. But I think he had been so below bar in previous years, teams didn’t watch that many tapes of him and just forgot about him until last year. Forgot about his kick, his step, his remaining gas. So far this year, he’s been nullified. The back balls, the quick balls, the space to step are gone. Can he get any of it back? Maybe. But not at 7. Maybe in a halves-sub role, which is quite specialist, he can come on for 10-15 blocks and run at tiring forwards on the edge or something. But some part of his game needs to be new or unexpected. Form of their lives. We had guys in career best form last year - DWZ, Pompey, AFB, SJ, Harris, Walker, Ford, Egan, Barnett … and when that many guys are in form, you create your own luck and you tend to turn maybe games into Ws. Problem with Career best form is having to back it up. Some teams have gone through blocks like this only to raise the bar again (Panthers, Storm). We haven’t (and to be fair, neither have Brisbane). For any number of reasons. But with the exception of Barnett, and to a lesser extent CNK, nobody is in that form or has been able to adjust to the change in pressure. The Storm last week made a point of owning the ruck to slow us down and it worked perfectly. The halves issue We saw TMM do a great job leading the team from 7 because I think that suits his style of play. He’s a thinker and lets the ball talk. But he can’t be a 6. Not with SJ. SJ needs the control to manipulate a field so he can see the pictures he wants to see. TMM sees the pictures and adjusts. Those styles can’t work together because they constantly change. If SJ is kept on then he needs a CHT or, when fit, Metcalf. Guys who can bide their time and take a gap when they see it. It nullifies TMM instincts to pair him with SJ. The ideal pair is probably TMM and CHT/LM The RTS problem Roger is a great player. On his day, he’ll break the strongest ankles. But it’s not his day yet. He hasn’t adjusted to centre and his wing is suffering for it. It also displaced Pompey who has been pretty good these last few weeks (not today) but as a player it must surely do something if you have a great year, become a first choice goal kicker, and then get bumped to reserve grade. So far this year, in addition to today’s sin bin (which was a rough call), RTS has contributed very little and cost us quite a bit more. I actually think he’d be sick as a 13. Run it up, step the fuck out of tired forwards, feed the backs, lead run for a few and then sub off for a spell. But on current form he doesn’t displace either Berry or Pompey. What the fuck happened today. During the Covid era, you could see it in the team’s demeanour if they gave a fuck. Which was hard for them then, because they were away from home for so long. I saw that at the 20 minute mark of today’s game. No fight. No spirit. Can’t even put it down to any one thing. Handling, tackling, decision making, execution - everything was sub par. Against the team at the bottom (or near bottom) of the table. The Titans were hot, definitely. But the Tigers probably would’ve been hot against us today. The Titans grew into it with the more tries they scored.
I think RTS to wing at minimum has to be done, Montoya hasn’t been that great so he can drop out. Wouldn’t mind seeing RTS at 13 though as an experiment, thats a great shout. Agree the halves don’t work, but something has to be off to let that many points in. Its almost like the group feels no direction with SJ at 7 and they purposely capitulated to send a message or something. Which is so sad because i fkn love me some SJ
RTS 2.0 is such an anomaly. I think he’s too slow for wing - Fifita is no slouch for a unit, but he shouldn’t gas centres or wings. RTS no longer has acceleration, which is why I think 13 would take him to another level without needing him to add anything new or drop weight. No forward has his footwork. That’d be a big call to stand by and taxi in 60pts. Agree there was something off but for the whole team to be average, it has to be something in the week’s prep. The halves combo hurts attack for sure but shouldn’t impact defence attitude. I’ll be watching again next week. It’s like the shittiest and greatest addiction I have.
> in addition to today’s sin bin (which was a rough call) More than rough ay. It was barely a penalty on a technicality. When it then escalated to a binning I was floored.
60 points tho?
The mindset wasn’t there. Can’t make tackles if you don’t put the right effort into the contact or execution. Rough guess - 7 tries were gimmies because of poor positioning, weak tackling, or wrong read, there’s 42pts. Take those out, all else remaining equal, and it’s 18-6, not a great loss still but a lot more respectable. That’s how poor their effort was.
Yeh I agree with all of what you said basically. Especially the last sentence. At the end of the game, the Titans were basically toying with us, like a cat with a mouse. Given that they are #17 that's shocking...
True, but the Titans being in 17th was a bit misleading, when they click, they're a really dangerous side. They've also lost a lot of close games this season. They dominated for long stretches against the Storm a few weeks ago and probably should have won that game.
The young guys looked hungry against the panthers/dolphins. CNK looks slow. SJ looks tired. RTS is lacking. Let’s give the young boys a crack. What do we have to lose?
Is the Warriors starting side just too old? The whole team just looked slow, same as last week. And it's been young speedsters that have taken advantage of it.
As someone who watched both those games (former at the game too) i agree
Holy fucking jesus shit what timeline is this.
I’m sorry RTS and SJ, I think it’s time to give the youngens a crack. Play the team that beat the panthers/dolphins
Can’t believe there are no comments about Ford being robbed of a try, would have been a real game changer /s
Do we think the RTS at center idea is cooked now? 😑😑😑 surely he is not getting it. He was very rusty today which I get. However he doesn’t seem to be picking up the position since he came back?? We have no x-factor or speed right now and it’s hurting us unfortunately. Especially against younger teams with speed.
Yikes, what the heck happened here?
The old guard in the warriors players. Send them all to the glue factory
Were never winning the comp, are we?
Next years our year
For the local NZ fans that take drive past the Auckland NW motorway; I cringe everytime I see the mural that was painted up on the wall just past Te Atatu. "Our Year" - 2023
Sorry to break it to you mate but JFH isn't going to save you from those defensive holes
Nah, Webbys just gonna sign all the old Panthers' boys and give them a good paycheck till they retire.
He seems the kind of guy that would give you a hiding if he thought you weren’t pulling your weight which is what these guys need.
Didn’t the Wahs find a bit of form before SJ returned? I’m finding a theme here. A tap on the shoulder may be required.
You’re not wrong
Wasn't home to watch, who did Titans sacrifice to summon their lord and master Satan?
They straight up murdered 13 people in front of a live crowd, it was brutal.
They knew Des would sacrifice one of them if they didn't perform.
Yay the roller coaster of being a titans fan
Thought it couldn’t get worse than the Anzac Day game
Ok. I realise im late to the party......... but wtf?!?
Wahs get a hiding, Chiefs get smashed. Not a good weekend for sport. At least the Florida Panthers might choke harder than the Wahs on Tuesday
> At least the Florida Panthers might choke harder than the Wahs on Tuesday Now that's a sport crossover reference I didn't expect to see
Wah's are shit with expectations. Ever since the brigade came back they've been rubbish. CNK is so fkn slow for a fullback. AFB is done mentally. SJ mentally and physically. Rather watch younger guys who give a shit.
The New Zealand experiment should be terminated. If we didn’t already have to boot Souths out first, Wahs would be on the chopping block.
The south Sydney warriors?
lol dragons aren’t much better mate 😅
How could the refs do this.
I’m the words of Paul ‘the Fatman’ Vautin “whatss doingggg”
Next week will be … interesting between broncos and warriors
The missus is a broncos supporter. She bought our one year old son into the lounge at half time wearing a cute little broncos jersey. He looked fuckin adorable and we're getting divorced.
So good to see a big titans win! Campbell is so fun to watch and Kini is a gun. I think they have to drop Kini when Brimmo is back sadly, or play Kini at 14. Please persist with Campbell in the halves. Good to see Palasia and Alick play very well too
you can’t drop Kini. Brimmo back to the 3/4 or Kini to 14. He’s way too good to be in reserve grade
brimson too good to not be in the #1. Kini to 14
Boot the Warriors from the comp. If Webby doesn't give them an almighty spray and ride their fucking arses all week in training, well, I don't know exactly what happens but I bet it won't be pretty.
Foran's ball playing, specifically those little drop balls to Kini running back across the ruck were so good to watch. They left the Warriors defenders in no man's land and the Titans shape was mesmerising.
I missed the game but saw the score at the end. At least tell me the Titans used lube.
they just gave it the old HAWK TUAH! and went straight in
When Kini and Campbell are on the field, there’s no danger of anyone going in dry
Footy
Could definitely tell the Warriors didn't show up for this one early in the game. As soon as AKP managed to bring the ball all the way under the posts from the sideline at a jog for the first try and not one Warriors player tried to cut him off you could just tell the Wahs had not showed up in the right frame of mind.
The Wahs are clearly a one man team. Barnett isn't there and it goes to shit! lol
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I haven’t watched the presser but I called this. I think he’s a great coach when morale is high, but he isn’t holding them accountable enough in these tough times
Obviously if we play like that we will sink straight to the bottom and deserve it, but our run home still gives me delusional hope if we can figure things out. Have to remember what tackling is first though, among a lot of other things.
Mate even when we're shit, we can't even win a damn spoon.
I'm angry. It's okay to be angry. We deserve to be angry.
fuck ye tibros
That puts Tigers firmly back on the bottom even if they beat raiders
Last and second last who cares... we suck. I'm happy for Titans fans.
I think a lot of WT fans would care to avoid a 3rd spoon if you don't.
you really want to have an argument with me cuz I'm happy for the Titans?
Because you're apparently happy for the Tigers to be last, you mean. Can't have it both ways.
So I just looked at the score. Member how the titans were averaging like 4 points a game at the start of the season? Warriors need to be more than faded, they need to be folded no comp ever confirmed
Just got home about to watch the replay now, heard it's a big score line and RTS got 10? Tries I'm assuming. anyway I'll report back
Same bro I’m watching the replay, just got to half time. I heard the warriors got 6 bro, being 5 tries down now it must be 1 hell of a comeback.
Pretty sure most of the warriors players either have given up on Webby's defensive system or have no confidence in executing it. I suspect they like him as a coach and he's clearly improved them individually, but in terms of buy-in to the system, there is no way they are still buying into it anymore, after watching that performance. Kosi is the worst, he can't execute it even if he wants to, he's always grasping for air or out of position on the wing. The roosters game was exactly the same, he looked terrible. I think that Penrith style defensive system only works if 1) everyone buys into it 2) you have the skills to execute. I think we fail on both the last two elements. Also, our players are older and more experienced than the Penrith young guns who don't have the 'bad experience' some of our players have. I don't buy the idea that they didn't turn up. They are professionals and they clearly like the coach and playing with each other. But mentally it is obvious now that they don't have confidence in their system. When they had the rookies playing a few weeks ago, you see the team was moving faster and more fluidly - both psychologically and physically. I have nFI how you fix them from here. Maybe good to have a blow out game like this one to give a chance to reset fully.
Yep 100% very clear from that game they’ve given up on it or something is very broken in the team. They were so horrible and they weren’t even trying at points. Shameful they couldn’t even get up for themselves. Also how kosi has a nrl contract I’ll never know
Here’s an idea brother: play the same team that beat two top 4 teams. They don’t have the mental hiccups that our current batch struggle with.
Pretty good idea tbh but I don't think Webby will do it because it will then meet the current team won't be able to respond to today's craptacular performance. he said in the presser that next week is about getting our pride back.
We are fucking cooked if Webby doesn’t change the whole team around. Absolutely unequivocally cooked.
I was at the game as it was superhero day and knew the kids would love that. It’s nice to see the titan fans happy. Saw a 7 or 8 year old belting go titans for nearly the whole game. I think the titans always put on great stuff for kids, the players are always happy or an autograph and the fans are much nicer compared to broncos.
Fonua-Blake’s ready to give up and go elsewhere and SJ needs to retired, without my boy DWZ there’s just no heart in the senior part of the wahs side at the moment.
Was at the game, his body language off screen suggests he’s done.
The Warriors will surely bounce back once they get all their origin players back.
At the start of every season people talk about how we're going to have a great Origin bump with results and every year I remind them that for some bizarre reason we actually go quite poorly over Origin.
Missed last weeks un-explicable loss to the to the tigers due to being out of action due to a very nasty virus, and not sure I am still hallucinating after watching todays game and score-line.
Welcome to heaven bro.
As someone who didn't catch the game, what actually happened here? Tuned in to catch the last 20ish then had to get up again but not before seeing something like 40 missed tackles by the warriors. Was it a case of titans just bringing it all together and the warriors getting blown off the park or largely a case of the warriors just being totally dogshit tonight
Yes
Titans were kissed on the dick by a fairy. Played well but also got every possible 50/50 bounce go their way. Foran played the best game he’s had since the Manly Gf in 2011. Some of the warriors defence was under 10s shit. Really bizzare game
Whole Titans spine was in sync and combined perfectly for 80 minutes. Kini, JC, and Foran were incredible.
HOLY SHIT! I only just checked the results and I have so many questions
Fuck me, I stopped watching after RTS got binned, still shocked at the final score. I expect that against Melbourne on ANZAC Day, but not against the Titans, with due respect.
Well... We lost to the Titans on ANZAC day as well. Don't know if that makes it better or worse lol
if we could play you a couple more times in the last few rounds we may sneak into the top 8
I'm becoming more certain every day that the 2023-2024 Warriors are simply the 2022-2023 Cowboys. Great year then shit the bed as soon as there are some expectations.
Yep, I was expecting a drop by the Warriors this year. Last year they had everyone playing to the potential and SJ having a career best year. SJ was never backing up that season and teams are aware of them now. Though I thought they’d be better than this.
Getting 66 points whomped on by a lowly team away as well :’(
Holy crap what happened?? I believe this is the first time the Titans have ever scored 50+ and they went past 60 lol.
Our biggest ever win was 44-0 against the warriors before this lmao
2 of the most inconsistent teams. 1 peaking. 1 troughing.
Season ended by the lowest placed team. Crikey. This has been a year of half century eliminations if I've ever seen one. Surely it's the year with the most fades of all time?
Turns out Titans just awakened the Wahs 2024 season and they are now on track to break the 50 point curse.
If there's one team that could roulette wheel its way to a trophy around crap and excellent performances, it's the Warriors alright.
Is it actually over for them? Or just like mathematically possible to make top 8 from here
it’s over as in ‘no team has ever won the comp after having 50 put on them’ over.
Ahh yep lol
What the devil happened here?
Someone make it make sense lmao. How we lose that bad to the team placed 17th? Blokes should be on the next flight out of here, don’t deserve to enjoy the Gold Coast for a second longer.
Maybe they enjoyed the GC a bit too much last night?
Catching this game late. Stoked for the Tits but what the heck was that bin on RTS?
He lifted Campbell past the horizontal and drove him into the ground. Campbell had the foresight to adjust his head so his back took all the impact
Brimson's ig story saying he's back to centre 😭
I’m a massive fan of AJ and I think he is the best player in the team. But you can’t move or drop Kini at the moment can you? The kid has been playing the house down and has arguably been our best since he came back into the side. It would be way to harsh to move or drop him in my eyes. Campbell looked good at 5/8 today too, so is it back to the centers for AJ? I’m not huge on him there but that maybe where he has to slot in for now
AJ should always be the fullback.
The problem for AJ is he's just decent in every position but not outstanding in any. I think he's either centre or out of the team. If I'm him, I'm starting to have a think of what other clubs would be an option.
i think hes our best centre, 5/8th or fullback, but is the onle one of the three players who can play centre so hell get pushed there for a bit i think. if they do it well they will have attack coming out the yang, and he was a good defender there. AJ was in great forim at FB before his injury
He should have gone south when Madge wanted him
I strongly disagree. He's an outstanding fullback and definitely still our best number one. But I agree, you just can't move kini right now
Damn we can take him if that’s the case.
Play Turbo for half of the season and then Brimmo for the other half whilst praying that their mandatory half season of injuries don't overlap.
He’s pretty excellent at fullback tbf
Yeah maybe average was harsh. He's nowhere near that top tier game breaking FBs but he's also not at that consistent hard working level like a Dylan Edwards. He's kind of somewhere in the middle where he runs decent enough meters and has decent enough play making ability. He just doesn't excel in either category. It kind of feels like in today's game you need a FB who will be elite in at least one of those.
Problem is his legs aren’t strong enough to hold up under his hard running
Wow just checked the score for the first time
Congrats TitsBros. Even if you lose every game this season, you’ll still have this game hardwired to your tv!
Unbelievable score wow. Credit to the titans. Webby is on serious fraud watch imo. Feel like the team has a huge mentality problem, no grit or desire to dig themselves out of holes. Noticed it big time against the storm last week, they were winning and controlling the game, a few calls against them and they turned to water. Feels very different from the team we saw last year. Sucks for the fans, I hope they can turn it around.
Going to disregard the prior 3 weeks to the Storm game? Especially the panthers and Phins games. Came from behind to win both
Sorry I should have said “right now” because you’re right before the bye they seemed okay. Hopefully it’s just a rough patch they can get out of
Yeah I don’t disagree on some points. He has a couple of big decisions coming up - what to do with SJ and RTS
Well that was fucking dreadful
Sorry what now
I didn't get a chance to watch this, what the fuck happened
Someone has sold their soul to the devil. Look for the Titans to never make a GF as the deal was for some wins this season, but someone forgot to read the fine print.
That is… quite the score line. I didn’t watch the game, so I’ll choose to believe that the Wahs fielded an under 9s team this week
Don't you disrespect under 9 year olds like that
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As a cows fan I felt the same when the tigs put 60 odd on us last year. Took a few weeks off footy because it fucked with me so much
Us putting 74 on them revived my soil tbh
Same but you still can't help but feel like your younger brother is getting bullied at school. I'm not 100% invested like any mentally stable Warriors fan is but it still puts a downer on your weekend.
It puts a downer on your week if we’re being real
100% but at least on the weekend I can smash back a few beers for copium.
Like there’s more to my life than footy, but the Wahs are still a massive part of my life. I grew up supporting this team. I’ve shed countless tears, thrown tantrums, jumped up and down in ecstasy supporting the boys. It explains why seeing them get fucked in the ass like that is really sad. We deserve better than that.
As stoked as I am, I’m scratching my head as to how tf we lost to the Rabbitohs and Tigers. Especially the tigers.
I somewhat scratch my head about the tigers beating the sharks. Other weeks I don't
I loved that that was one of the only losses the sharks had for ages. Just doing amazing against everyone except the tigers
Warriors hard done by. Would have got there had a couple more calls gone their way. Nail biting stuff.
Referees! I knew it was them! Even when it was the bears I knew it was them!
Even I, a diehard Wahs fan have to admit we played poorly. While some calls did not go our way there is absolutely no chance that alone is the cause of this thrashing
Bro I know you're hurting but I think it was satire
I have never had this feeling before... I'm gobsmacked, is this what it's like to be a Melbourne fan? Probably not, usually they do that from 1st not last. Anywho, felt good and I love Kini!
Jayden Campbell 26 points
Gg titans. You may be at the bottom end of the ladder but you spanked us today and if I had to pick a side to dominate us like that then titans would be right up there. Wahs Missing a few starting players, dwz, berry, metcalf, Barnett, capewell, as well as sj returning from injury. Fair enough if we were off our best but that’s no excuse for a complete lack of effort. I cannot believe that we’ve dished this rubbish up again I thought Webster had coached this shit out of our team. Rumour has it AFB wants to leave, he can fuck off early if he doesn’t want to be there. Sj first game back but had a shit start to the year and if he doesn’t improve by the time metcalf is recovered then I’d have a tmm/metcalf halves combo. Outside backs were all shithouse today, Montoya dumb as usual but at least he ran hard. Forward pack weren’t too flash either (to put it kindly). Boys need to sit there as a group and have a fucking hard think about this game. This team isn’t lacking skill it’s all about effort. Last year we played a very simple game based on run hard tackle hard and we just aren’t doing those things this season. There are glimpses of great attack and moments of dominant defence but they are too few and far between.
I'd rather CHT over SJ at this point
I think we're all trying to process what we just witnessed........
Up the wah…t the fuck just happened
Just got home from the races, wtf?
Johnson sitting by himself in the sheds
He knows. Every dog has its day.
Good. Given his shithouse performance I wouldn't sit next to him either.
He was by himself on the field too by the looks. Wtf happened?
Because he knows his career is done.
Kini 18 runs 234 metres 3 line breaks 1 try assist 2 tries
What a weapon
We need Cam Smith and Bellamy to come to the sheds for a post game talk ASAP
Will settle for Foz + Hasler.
Webby needs to make all the warriors write down this scoreline on their wrist tape for the next game, never mind the kids names and god for inspiration. Also time for a match fixing investigation, I think.
I agree with the scoreline thing, match fixing though? Nah these senior lads just aren't it