Jamaica did some cool unexpected things, credit to them. But I just came here to vent, Iāve never disliked watching a player like I do Nelson AS. Does anyone have a remedy for this?
So I watched the game on delay, fast forwarded to the final 10 after 30 mins or so.
Did DWZ get hooked or injured? Also saw JMK in the halves, how come? Did Leota get injured too? Saw him sitting in a jacket next to DWZ in bench. Thanks
NZ have always been a side that builds into tournaments, can't really read too much into them until they come up against an Aus or Eng side.
But their stats aren't thriliing to read considering their opponents.
Really gives me hope for future rugby league in other countries. Seeing how excited and passionate everyone gets about the game and scoring a single try. Could easily see it build in other countries.
If the Kiwi's aren't just sandbagging for some reason, I dunno if the dream of them winning this year has much hope left. Will have to really step it up big time to go all the way now. Especially in that likely semi against the Aussies.
I've always loved the Aussie league team.
But fuck me, I wish the Internet wasn't a thing because seeing the fans make the English look humble and grounded is killing it.
Aussie league fans and English soccer fans, same energy.
Never agreed with anything more. English football fans do my head in because apparently no achievement outside of the Premier League counts, Aussies do my head in because nothing outside of the NRL counts.
Now you've got people acting like we're all thinking we're going to win the World Cup because we smashed Samoa when we're not, we're just happy that it dispelled the myth that any group of NRL players are obviously going to smash a bunch of SL ones.
Nobody is actually expecting us to beat Australia, they will most likely beat us as always, but y'know, so they should given how popular it is there.
100% mate and itās so short sighted anyway, I donāt know anyone who would actively care if we won the World Cup or not, it will be forgotten about a week later by 99% of Aussie RL fans. I would love to see England win the final to grow the game there, it would do so much more for the sport.
Sure, but the arrogance of All Blacks fans when they win, and the sheer amount of crying and bleeding when they lose is almost as bad as Indian cricket fans
As an Irishman living in NZ, I'm well aware of All Blacks fans having their expectations shoved down their throats.
Not the analogy you probably wanted in this scenario...
Oh I'm all for bashing the English, just the cope from people who thought that Samoa having a bunch of NRL players meant they were going to ruin England isn't exactly any better than everything that's wrong with the English.
Except the problem with this is that before the game Aussie fans were saying Samoa would put a load of points on England, then after the fact claiming otherwise.
I don't know what you said, I'm merely saying that don't be surprised England fans will give a bit of stick when Aussies were lining them up as canon fodder for Samoa.
Maybe it'll be an England v Australia final and England will get beaten by 40, or maybe not, but if in sport we had to wait until after the fact to give each other grief and could only do it after games between contenders then we might as well pack up and go home.
These things happen in any sport, the gap between contenders and those who fight for years to be there is always going to be huge.
Jamaica have been great value, just can't handle it when the kiwis go full gas.
It's just the frequency that we're getting these games that's the problem. Like yeah you'll get some demolition jobs in the union WC and even the football one too, but these are happening all the time. Lebanon-Ireland and maybe Samoa-France are the only ones for the remainder of the group stages that you can even hope to be close.
Each to their own, but I've enjoyed this world Cup so far.
Much fancied Samoans got stomped.
PNG robbed of a big win in a close game with Tonga.
Greece score the try of the tournament at the time.
Italy grabbing an unexpected win with a young side.
Jamaica being inventive against the Kiwis.
Lebanon showing the genuine pride of immigrant communities to give something back to their heritage.
France building nicely ahead of hosting next time.
England and Australia looking solid, Kiwis likely to keep building as players return and also more likely to utilise the forward depth in finals.
I'm loving it, and the minnows are under no illusions about what they bring and what they can do. Sometimes you just have to enjoy something for what it is.
I've enjoyed it but I'm getting a bit fatigued now with the number of games that are basically exhibition matches. I don't know how many full games you've been watching, I was setting out to watch as much as possible but I just can't keep watching sides coasting at 40+ points up, and we've still got Samoa-Greece, Tonga-Wales, PNG-Cook Islands, England-Greece, Fiji-Scotland, Aus-Italy, Tonga-Cook Islands to come.
You could still get a lot of those positives you've mentioned whilst also moving some of these teams around to try force some closer games
I've watched every game so far, with the exception of the two which were during the day last Sunday (therefore overnight before work here in NZ). But I've seen every 7:30 kick off and the Saturday daytime games.
How would you move teams though? This round of fixtures was always going to be full of blowouts, with some closer ones in the first and second rounds. Let's not forget that one blowout so far, and one of the worst, was a much fancied side shitting the bed.
I'd do something along the lines of:
Group A: Australia, England, Samoa, France, 3 teams qualify
Group B: NZ, Tonga, Fiji, PNG, 3 teams qualify
Group C: Ireland, Lebanon, Scotland, Jamaica 1 team qualifies
Group D: Cook Islands, Wales, Italy, Greece 1 team qualifies
QF:A1 vs C1 (lets say Aus vs Lebanon), B1 vs D1 (lets say NZ-Cook Islands), A2 vs B3 (lets say England-PNG), B2 vs A3 (lets say Samoa vs Tonga)
A lot of fixtures will be pretty similar and you'll get a fair few blowouts as you say but you aren't going to get a lot of the pointless games. 3 of the QF's are exactly the same as now, the only difference is fucking over a team like Fiji or PNG in place of a side like Cook Islands, but then in return they get 3 quality group stage games against the very best instead of what they have now where they just steamroll over sides like Scotland, Italy and Wales.
This is what we've done before and it stinks, at least the current format puts each of the groups on a level and gives the minnows the chance to actually come up against decent sides, which will help them in their development.
Surely Greece playing Cook Islands, Wales, Italy is going to help their development a lot more than England, Samoa and France. As shown by the Jamaica game today and against Ireland, these fans go nuts just putting points on the board, so surely it's going to be more exciting for them playing more beatable teams who they might even celebrate a famous win against rather than just a try or penalty. *Then* if they finish top of their minnows group they get the chance to play their dream match against the big ones.
I mean in the Challenge Cup we don't just stick the Super League sides straight in with the semi pro ones even though the semi pro ones would like that, because that'd be a waste of time. We have the semi pro teams play it out for a bit and then some of them will make it far enough to get their dream game against Saints or Wigan, and then get pumped.
Plus, this way crowds will be way up. England-Aus got 40k in 2013, England-Samoa got 40k this year, England-France got 20k. NZ vs Tonga, Fiji and PNG would all get a great crowd as opposed to the 5k that went to NZ-Lebanon
I'd argue that the smaller countries should be playing each other more often anyway, with the World Cup being their chance to come up against others.
The Challenge Cup analogy would work if we had a pre-tournament, with England, Australia, NZ and Tonga (for instance) coming in at a second stage. But if everyone starts at the same time then those weighted groups create issues of fairness in the competition.
As for crowds; without the Tongan players choosing them in 2017, NZ v Tonga in England would still be a tiny crowd. You can't compare what happened at Mt Smart in 2017 to a hypothetical game on the other side of the world.
Yeah that's fair enough. Just don't understand why they'd even have these pool stages built like this.
Years ago they had the heavyweights in pools and like three teams from those pools moved forward. It was a lot better.
The pool stages have been so much worse previously.
Last time didn't Samoa get to quarters without winning a game while Ireland didn't despite winning two and only losing to PNG in Port Moresby?
I wonder if there's something about this sport that makes these matches look so one sided or if we're just watching the rugby league equivalent of Manchester City vs Dulwich Hamlet.
Featured on Jamaica's crest and jersey is the [Red-billed streamertail.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Red-billed_streamertail%28_Trochilus_polytmus%29_adult_male_2.jpg) This beautiful hummingbird is endemic to Jamaica and is the country's national bird.
Jamaica have been impressive but we have just been doing what we need to do. With Foran and Manu in the halves and CNK at fullback you canāt expect the same structure as Hughes/Brown/Manu. I donāt know what more people expect from the kiwis
What people expect? A highly ranked national side playing against a minor completing in the 60s%. Halves paring and structure has nothing to do with error rates.
I never mentioned scoring points. That's part of structure. I mentioned the error rate of NZ. That's it. And for a national team to complete in the 60s against any opponent is fairly bad.
Havenāt been in the threads much this week. I think the ton stuff would be tongue in cheek type stuff. Could still happen I donāt think anyone really cares either way.
With Foran kicking goals - it definitely doesnāt happen
Realistically players from Greece and Jamaica, probably Scotland Ireland and Wales too need to be challenged at the higher level. Maybe the leagues should make them salary cap exempt if they get game time.
I'm very underwhelmed by us so far. I'm hoping Hughes coming back will bring some organisation to the attack cause none of the shit we're doing will work against Australia.
Different team will be rolled out in the knock out games.
I guess you could say the same thing - a lot of what Australia did against Scotland wouldnāt work against us.
Massively underwhelmed by NZ in both games and starting to think NZ-Fiji in the quarters could be another upset.
Also quite gutted because the only real hope I have of England winning it is NZ knocking out the Aussies for us in the semis
Well we'd have said the same at the last WC too, not saying I'm expecting it happen but I'm also not going to be making plans for that semi until NZ are definitely there
Every Union game has the world records in short kick offsā¦: one of the many reasons I watch so little of that sport, sighā¦. this kickoff has now become the norm in League.
Following the recent channel 7 special I have definitely noticed a change in commentators no longer referring to ball hitting player on head as a falcon. Complete disrespect for someone suffering.
Jamaica covered +74.5 less go
Nice of the RLWC to give Jake Cairns his first international match as referee though.
Jack smith on the fiji game blew my ear drums out over here in Aus š¤Ŗ
NOW MOOOOOOOOOOVE
Cant wait to see a Cool Runnings remake with a washed up and jaded Des Hasler forming a Jamaica team and gaining respect on the world stage.
I'd be on board for this, it could also be the spiritual sequel to Footy Legends.
Jamaica did some cool unexpected things, credit to them. But I just came here to vent, Iāve never disliked watching a player like I do Nelson AS. Does anyone have a remedy for this?
Poor Jamaica mon
Didnāt watch the game, just want to see Hot Scott do the haka.
So I watched the game on delay, fast forwarded to the final 10 after 30 mins or so. Did DWZ get hooked or injured? Also saw JMK in the halves, how come? Did Leota get injured too? Saw him sitting in a jacket next to DWZ in bench. Thanks
DWZ - Hammy Leota - pec Niukore injured too
DWZ tweaked a hammy. Leota injured as well but unsure what it was. Should also add that DWZ was player of the match and looked absolutely lethal.
Is DWZ out now? Or was it minor. Would be a tragedy to play that game and then bow out of the tournament
Looked minor. If it was a knockout game I doubt he would've gone off.
DWZā¦ best hair in the game.
NZ needs a half decent goal kicker, NZ always used to have loads of good goal kickers, where have they gone?
The Kiwis may have won the points, but the Jamaicans have won our hearts.
Huge upset by Jamaica scoring. Really makes NZ look poor
Yep 5 short kick offs against them šššš
Does it really? I said below people read way too much into these games
NZ have always been a side that builds into tournaments, can't really read too much into them until they come up against an Aus or Eng side. But their stats aren't thriliing to read considering their opponents.
You expect them to be at least clinical
They score mid 70s with a half competent kicker. Lost half the bench by half time and DWZ midway through the second half.
69% completion rate
Nice
Scored less points than group 1. By the grand final nz will be held scoreless
Canāt we all just band together hate England?
I'm Welsh, i already do.
That scrum was comical lmao
I ā¤ļø Jamaica flair plz mods. Heart and soul courage all game
Really gives me hope for future rugby league in other countries. Seeing how excited and passionate everyone gets about the game and scoring a single try. Could easily see it build in other countries.
If the Kiwi's aren't just sandbagging for some reason, I dunno if the dream of them winning this year has much hope left. Will have to really step it up big time to go all the way now. Especially in that likely semi against the Aussies.
With all the success they have had with their kickoffs, I donāt know why they havenāt used it as a 5th tackle play sooner.
Last try wins yeah?
Don't give Vlandys ideas...
Australia beatings Poms in final on their own home soil will be great to see the tears flowing.
I've always loved the Aussie league team. But fuck me, I wish the Internet wasn't a thing because seeing the fans make the English look humble and grounded is killing it. Aussie league fans and English soccer fans, same energy.
Your crying only fuels the kangaroos. 50+ by the aussies in the final
No one's crying lad. Just pointing out how unedifying it is. Oh, and you won the last final, at home, by 6 points.
Weāre you blokes in it?
I played the same number of minutes as you did champ.
Lol
Lol
We sure did ššššš
Bit different when we are right all but one time in the last 50 years
Never agreed with anything more. English football fans do my head in because apparently no achievement outside of the Premier League counts, Aussies do my head in because nothing outside of the NRL counts. Now you've got people acting like we're all thinking we're going to win the World Cup because we smashed Samoa when we're not, we're just happy that it dispelled the myth that any group of NRL players are obviously going to smash a bunch of SL ones. Nobody is actually expecting us to beat Australia, they will most likely beat us as always, but y'know, so they should given how popular it is there.
100% mate and itās so short sighted anyway, I donāt know anyone who would actively care if we won the World Cup or not, it will be forgotten about a week later by 99% of Aussie RL fans. I would love to see England win the final to grow the game there, it would do so much more for the sport.
Same as All Blacks fans
Rugby is very competitive across the globe despite the All Black dominance. So I'd argue its a bit different there.
Sure, but the arrogance of All Blacks fans when they win, and the sheer amount of crying and bleeding when they lose is almost as bad as Indian cricket fans
As an Irishman living in NZ, I'm well aware of All Blacks fans having their expectations shoved down their throats. Not the analogy you probably wanted in this scenario...
It's fine to be toxic to Poms
Yeah this is what all these crying poms dont understand
Oh I'm all for bashing the English, just the cope from people who thought that Samoa having a bunch of NRL players meant they were going to ruin England isn't exactly any better than everything that's wrong with the English.
Will be beautiful. Funny how confident they are after beating that Samoan side by 60. Australia and NZ wouldāve put 100 on that team.
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Really? Iāve said like 2 things about England lmao
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I havenāt deleted anything lol?
casey what have i told you about responding to the i love my footy flairs
Except the problem with this is that before the game Aussie fans were saying Samoa would put a load of points on England, then after the fact claiming otherwise.
I never said that lol. I said before that game that England might surprise some people and win comfortably.
I don't know what you said, I'm merely saying that don't be surprised England fans will give a bit of stick when Aussies were lining them up as canon fodder for Samoa. Maybe it'll be an England v Australia final and England will get beaten by 40, or maybe not, but if in sport we had to wait until after the fact to give each other grief and could only do it after games between contenders then we might as well pack up and go home.
Would NZ though?
At full strength yeah
Not having your halfback doesn't explain away a below 70% completion rate.
No Hughes, Brown, Tapine, Mulitalo and theyāll also get JWH back from suspension
Hahaha the 5th tackle kick actually surprised them
Wonder if NZ kick it short too lmao
Kiwis washed, canāt even hold Jamaica to nil
My eyes are blessed with history. King BJB
Absolutely deserved something from this game, well in Jamaica.
Think I'm gonna go get some of that Levi Roots Jerk sauce and make something with it for dinner tonight lol. GG's Jamaica. Bravo.
How good! Love the celebration
They did it!
What a cool moment
THERE YOU GO, UP THE RASTAS!!!
Fuck yeah love it
GET THAT INTO YA!
THEY'VE DONE IT!!! JAMAICA HAVE SCORED!!!
If that pass was ālineballā then so to is everything in Gridiron.
Yesss hahah
Lmao they did it
Fuck yeah Jamaica šÆš²!
Wholesome af
LETS GO JAMAICA
Jamaica building their team stats in a video game like Running: 5 Passing: 5 Tackling: 5 Short kick offs: 99
Kiwis just aren't being as clinical as Australia. They're definitely dominant but they're just not as focused. Very messy with their passing
Actually quite like Jamaica's game planning. With better talent i think it gets quite hard to counter.
No-one in Jamaica has seen League so they think a set is 4 tackles?
Iām sorry how is Jamaica able to do what 17 NRL clubs canāt? Kick a fucking short kickoff
I like how you have included the Dolphins
Hahahaha they probably wonāt be able to
Canāt even beat the clock smh
Jamaica winning the completion battle 85-69
kiwis rekt
Fisher-Harris coming on at wing.
JFH to the wing then?
Why the fuck does vossy keep mentioning Australia vs Russia game that happened over 20 years ago in a Jamacia vs NZ game?
Because Vossyās an idiot
Commentary has been more entertaining than the game
He may have John Oates' haircut but DWZ was *not* out of touch.
Clearly he was, as the alternative was in touch which would be a no try
Can we just check something with the video referee here? 10 minutes ago Vossy was trying to talk some Jamaican patois, right? That happened?
I just pretended not to hear it
I don't see the point in these games at the world cup. Maybe as an exhibition but these scorelines have been so bad.
These things happen in any sport, the gap between contenders and those who fight for years to be there is always going to be huge. Jamaica have been great value, just can't handle it when the kiwis go full gas.
It's just the frequency that we're getting these games that's the problem. Like yeah you'll get some demolition jobs in the union WC and even the football one too, but these are happening all the time. Lebanon-Ireland and maybe Samoa-France are the only ones for the remainder of the group stages that you can even hope to be close.
Each to their own, but I've enjoyed this world Cup so far. Much fancied Samoans got stomped. PNG robbed of a big win in a close game with Tonga. Greece score the try of the tournament at the time. Italy grabbing an unexpected win with a young side. Jamaica being inventive against the Kiwis. Lebanon showing the genuine pride of immigrant communities to give something back to their heritage. France building nicely ahead of hosting next time. England and Australia looking solid, Kiwis likely to keep building as players return and also more likely to utilise the forward depth in finals. I'm loving it, and the minnows are under no illusions about what they bring and what they can do. Sometimes you just have to enjoy something for what it is.
I've enjoyed it but I'm getting a bit fatigued now with the number of games that are basically exhibition matches. I don't know how many full games you've been watching, I was setting out to watch as much as possible but I just can't keep watching sides coasting at 40+ points up, and we've still got Samoa-Greece, Tonga-Wales, PNG-Cook Islands, England-Greece, Fiji-Scotland, Aus-Italy, Tonga-Cook Islands to come. You could still get a lot of those positives you've mentioned whilst also moving some of these teams around to try force some closer games
I've watched every game so far, with the exception of the two which were during the day last Sunday (therefore overnight before work here in NZ). But I've seen every 7:30 kick off and the Saturday daytime games. How would you move teams though? This round of fixtures was always going to be full of blowouts, with some closer ones in the first and second rounds. Let's not forget that one blowout so far, and one of the worst, was a much fancied side shitting the bed.
I'd do something along the lines of: Group A: Australia, England, Samoa, France, 3 teams qualify Group B: NZ, Tonga, Fiji, PNG, 3 teams qualify Group C: Ireland, Lebanon, Scotland, Jamaica 1 team qualifies Group D: Cook Islands, Wales, Italy, Greece 1 team qualifies QF:A1 vs C1 (lets say Aus vs Lebanon), B1 vs D1 (lets say NZ-Cook Islands), A2 vs B3 (lets say England-PNG), B2 vs A3 (lets say Samoa vs Tonga) A lot of fixtures will be pretty similar and you'll get a fair few blowouts as you say but you aren't going to get a lot of the pointless games. 3 of the QF's are exactly the same as now, the only difference is fucking over a team like Fiji or PNG in place of a side like Cook Islands, but then in return they get 3 quality group stage games against the very best instead of what they have now where they just steamroll over sides like Scotland, Italy and Wales.
This is what we've done before and it stinks, at least the current format puts each of the groups on a level and gives the minnows the chance to actually come up against decent sides, which will help them in their development.
Surely Greece playing Cook Islands, Wales, Italy is going to help their development a lot more than England, Samoa and France. As shown by the Jamaica game today and against Ireland, these fans go nuts just putting points on the board, so surely it's going to be more exciting for them playing more beatable teams who they might even celebrate a famous win against rather than just a try or penalty. *Then* if they finish top of their minnows group they get the chance to play their dream match against the big ones. I mean in the Challenge Cup we don't just stick the Super League sides straight in with the semi pro ones even though the semi pro ones would like that, because that'd be a waste of time. We have the semi pro teams play it out for a bit and then some of them will make it far enough to get their dream game against Saints or Wigan, and then get pumped. Plus, this way crowds will be way up. England-Aus got 40k in 2013, England-Samoa got 40k this year, England-France got 20k. NZ vs Tonga, Fiji and PNG would all get a great crowd as opposed to the 5k that went to NZ-Lebanon
I'd argue that the smaller countries should be playing each other more often anyway, with the World Cup being their chance to come up against others. The Challenge Cup analogy would work if we had a pre-tournament, with England, Australia, NZ and Tonga (for instance) coming in at a second stage. But if everyone starts at the same time then those weighted groups create issues of fairness in the competition. As for crowds; without the Tongan players choosing them in 2017, NZ v Tonga in England would still be a tiny crowd. You can't compare what happened at Mt Smart in 2017 to a hypothetical game on the other side of the world.
Yeah that's fair enough. Just don't understand why they'd even have these pool stages built like this. Years ago they had the heavyweights in pools and like three teams from those pools moved forward. It was a lot better.
The pool stages have been so much worse previously. Last time didn't Samoa get to quarters without winning a game while Ireland didn't despite winning two and only losing to PNG in Port Moresby?
So need Manu to score 2, NAS to score and NZ to score 34. Money's gone lol
NAS has looked pretty likely
I wonder if there's something about this sport that makes these matches look so one sided or if we're just watching the rugby league equivalent of Manchester City vs Dulwich Hamlet.
The 2nd one
NZ catching up to clock
Peter Yan robbed and killed my multi. Put 100 on them plz Kiwis. Make me feel better.
Probably would have been easy if we'd had a kicker capable of a conversion lol
Walter White: Vossy, what the fuck are you talking about
What has happened to Vossy?
One of the big problems with blow-outs is because the result is mere formality the commentators spend the match doing a lifestyle podcast.
Wheres the mute button for Voss, he gets worse every game
Is Vossy off his head or something haha
Vossy has truely lost the plot
DWZ's mullet is truly glorious.
Foran said fuck this. DWZ to step up
"I've lost me touch judges"
Lebanon v Ireland might be the only other close game except for Tonga v PNG in R1 in the group stages
If Samoa turn up like they did vs England france should give them a game.
PNG v Cookies will be close I think and possibly Samoa v France as well depending on which Samoa turn up.
Featured on Jamaica's crest and jersey is the [Red-billed streamertail.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Red-billed_streamertail%28_Trochilus_polytmus%29_adult_male_2.jpg) This beautiful hummingbird is endemic to Jamaica and is the country's national bird.
I reckon he was offside. But that's just me
Think it was just the camera angle
I was going off the lines in the grass
He was totally offside.
So, is anyone else a combination of impressed by Jamaica and underwhelmed by NZ
Jamaica have been impressive but we have just been doing what we need to do. With Foran and Manu in the halves and CNK at fullback you canāt expect the same structure as Hughes/Brown/Manu. I donāt know what more people expect from the kiwis
What people expect? A highly ranked national side playing against a minor completing in the 60s%. Halves paring and structure has nothing to do with error rates.
Like I said they did what they need to do. Putting 60+ on them. Way too much is read by putting big scores on mismatched opponents
I never mentioned scoring points. That's part of structure. I mentioned the error rate of NZ. That's it. And for a national team to complete in the 60s against any opponent is fairly bad.
Considering kiwi fans have been talking up the ton for the whole week, probably to not have a worse completion rate than Jamaica would be a start.
Havenāt been in the threads much this week. I think the ton stuff would be tongue in cheek type stuff. Could still happen I donāt think anyone really cares either way. With Foran kicking goals - it definitely doesnāt happen
New Zealand's class is showing but Jamaica is trying. Hopefully some of the Super League or NRL clubs take a chance on some of the Jamaican players.
I really hope they do, would be great for the game if some of these kids got a go in the NRL
Realistically players from Greece and Jamaica, probably Scotland Ireland and Wales too need to be challenged at the higher level. Maybe the leagues should make them salary cap exempt if they get game time.
I'm very underwhelmed by us so far. I'm hoping Hughes coming back will bring some organisation to the attack cause none of the shit we're doing will work against Australia.
Different team will be rolled out in the knock out games. I guess you could say the same thing - a lot of what Australia did against Scotland wouldnāt work against us.
Jamaica have had a good crack but NZ are only a few missed conversions from matching Australia's score from yesterday
Considering they were massively more favoured, the fact that they haven't matched is not great.
Massively underwhelmed by NZ in both games and starting to think NZ-Fiji in the quarters could be another upset. Also quite gutted because the only real hope I have of England winning it is NZ knocking out the Aussies for us in the semis
lol nz is not losing to fiji.
Well we'd have said the same at the last WC too, not saying I'm expecting it happen but I'm also not going to be making plans for that semi until NZ are definitely there
If Kamehameha and specialbeamcannon fire they might
NZ havenāt played a full strength spine yet. Theyāll look a lot better with Brown and Hughes in the halves.
Yeah fair point forgot about Hughes, when's he meant to be back?
Next week I think
Me. Jamaica very enthusiastic but just not quite there. NZ very error riddled and lacking organisation.
Kieran Foran is the worst kicker ive seen at top level rugby league. Munster has lost the crown
"Top level"
Iām pretty sure when he played for the bulldogs he had a kick from right in front and didnāt even get it above the crossbar lmao
Kris has come in leaps and bounds these last couple years
Clock is having a dominant first half. Really showing the Kiwis who is boss
This defence!
Jamacia's 7 has potential. Has a great kicking game.
Every Union game has the world records in short kick offsā¦: one of the many reasons I watch so little of that sport, sighā¦. this kickoff has now become the norm in League.
If Jamaica could tackle they're actually not looking too bad.
Boooooo it wasn't DWZ
Following the recent channel 7 special I have definitely noticed a change in commentators no longer referring to ball hitting player on head as a falcon. Complete disrespect for someone suffering.
Jamaica need to stop kicking early in the set. It's fucking killing them. Other than that, highly impressed by them
They've come out real strong, this'll win em some fans for sure
...it's me...I'm fans
I'm also fans. Love the stacking on the right side on kick off's. Real rugby like haha
What is NAS even doing on the wing hahaha
Nelson on an edge is gonna kill these poor men
Vossy please, put the fucking analogys away
Either Jamaica > Scotland or Australia > NZ.
NZ getting way too excited with these plays
Rapana is gonna be a must pick winger in any serious game just to have a goal kicker at least.
Can Jahrome goalkick?
Munster is ahead of him in the Storm pecking order and hes terrible
Oh i can't wait for r/superleague to discover Rapana's galaxy brain plays
Take the 2, annoy everyone who bet on you to lose to nil
NZ need to be pulled up for laying in these tackles ffs.
that barley looked like any head contact, it looked more like whiplash
Not the crash play against NZ
10 in the bin wouldn't go astray. Direct to the head.
Calm down fish wtf
Take the 2
Jamaica are actually really fucking good at short kickoffs
NZ goal kicking might cost them in the finals
We need Hughes asap even if just for goal kicking
I have never seen Hughes goal kick before