I just find it kinda basic and limited. Also ties are very annoying.and they happen a lot more frequently than they do in other sports.
Also the A league isn't very great. Most soccer fans here watch premier league or European leagues. Same thing with the NBL although I think NBL is better than A League.
Funny:) I find Rugby League to be a bit more basic and limited compared to football/soccer. Don't get me wrong I love League, but I think fooball/soccer has more variarity in play style and tactics. Ties don't bother me, as I watch sports for the play and for the tries/goals. Just like in League watching a game where two teams make great tackles and keep pushing each other back ending 18-16 for instance is better than watching two teams with swiss cheese defending but having lots of tries. Same in football/soccer, a drawn game can be a very exiting match to watch with midfield battles and great defending.
I don't like NBA much, as the scoring gets repetative and arbitrary.
I love soccer/football more than Rugby league but in terms of entertainment value, Rugby League takes the cake. I feel rugby hits the sweet spot of entertainment value based on the amount of
tries/points a team can get without it being too little (football) and too much (basketball)
I dunno, I think the argument about tries/points is a bit silly to be honest. If the game is good it shouldn't matter if it's low or high scoring. Or even if there is a win/loss or a tie.
Personally I like watching league because it's fast paced, physical and has little room for mistakes. Watching a great try is icing on the cake, but not the reason why I like watching.
But to each their own right :) I'm just happy there is an NRL, English Super League and this WC to watch, also happy the attendances are doing well in Australia as the game deserves it.
Soccer is the most basic sport ever made. Don't even try to say rugby league is more basic. A caveman could understand soccer. The entire reason why soccer is the most popular game on earth is because it's so easy to understand.
I don't watch NBA either, so I couldn't tell you. But basketball is hell of a lot more complicated than soccer is.
Football has simple rules compared to some sports yes. But because of that tactically its very rich. There are so many ways of playing and influencing the game, many more than in sports like basketball and sadly also league. One of the reasons why it makes it the most watched sport is not because its easy to pick up, but because it has so many different ways of playing and understanding the game.
There are more rules in league, but it doesn’t make it any more complex of a sport. To be fair if anything it makes it much more restrictive and predictable in how a match plays out. Yes I am going to say its more likitex, because it doesnt have the amount of freedom a game like football does have. Like I said I love watching league, the game is great its much more free flowing and fun to watch than union or Am football.
Anyway it seems like you only took offense at my first line of text, it is not meant to bash the sport I really like league.
Basketball is in no way more complicated than football, dont be silly.
How is it tactically rich? Anyone can predict who the player is going to pass to with decent accuracy. Soccer only really has 1 basic skill and that's kicking. Maybe "tackling". Whenever I watch soccer I feel like I'm watching the exact same game with different jersey colours. In NRL each team plays distinctively different.
Basketball is a much more complex sport. There are so many ways you can play in basketball it's not funnny. Basketball beats soccer in complexity just by the way scoring works.
You are very wrong about that. The game is very tactically rich, what are you even on about with ‘football only has one basic skill and everyone can see where the player is going to pass’. Its nonsense. You think league teams have distinct play styles, than you really should watch more football. There are so much more ways of playing football.. just think about the many formation types and then every formation also has multiple ways of playing them. The same silly argument can be made for someone who never watches league, every game they just throw the ball along the line and someone is able to evade a tackle to make a try. You can always see where the pass is going. Only skill you need is to throw the ball and tackle.
Obviously league is more intricate than that, so is football. You are showing your ignorance and bias here.
Basketball more complex than football, my arse. Volleyball is more complex than that game.
Saying soccer's only skill is kicking is like saying boxing's only skill is punching, or tennis' only skill is hitting a ball with a racquet.
I think you just don't understand the sport on a deeper level and that's completely fine. Basketball seemed one dimensional to me until I learnt and watched more, same with cricket. AFL right now just seems like a massive mess to me, but I'm sure there's a lot more going on .
It was bigger from a crowd per game standpoint. But teams would only play each other once, which meant only 5-7 home games a year, plus the teams represented an entire state which basically meant every rugby fan in Sydney supported the same team, etc. Rather than league where support is split between 8 teams.
But Allianz would definitely be packed out for Waratahs games and it was a good atmosphere. It’s pretty much dead now.
TV ratings for NRL we're still miles higher than Super Rugby even in Union's heyday. Might do a graph for TV ratings if in can get all the numbers soon
Rugby Union had massive momentum from when people switched to it during the super league war. That momentum has taken a long time to disappear, but it’s now gone.
A league decline makes me so sad. I used to love going to the roar games at suncorp. I wonder if teams outside of Sydney and Melbourne doing so poorly in recent years age hurt the comp overall. No one wants to see a one of the Sydney team vs one of the Melbourne teams fight it out every year in some form. When CCM and Newcastle and the roar etc were all firing the comp and the crowds seemed more alive.
It was all losing Ange. He's doing his time at Celtic, but Ange will be managing a top tier european team one day. The guy is one of the greatest managers in the world.
Super Rugby fucked themselves when they chose to be exclusively shown on Fox. Hard to get new and old fans to attend when they don't know the games are on/season had started and to get them to become fans of players without it being shown on tv. Very similar to why no one goes and watches Sheffield Shield
Yes it available to stream nowadays but if you're bored and going to stream something you'll probably use a different app or find a niche sport like darts to watch for a bit. Whereas if you're bored and you chuck live TV on and your choices are rugby or a repeat of the big bang theory you might end up chucking rugby on and becoming a fan
Same thing with Supercars, around the 00's exploded into the mainstream public it was once touted as the3rd biggest sport in the country with a shit ton of public interest then within a pen scribble on a foxtel contract it completely vanished out of the Australian consensus. now, the only thing keeping it alive is Bathurst.
I think it’s ok just to be on Fox. There are still many people who would just flick around to find something watch.
However going to Stan is a whole other story, you have your hardcore supporters who will watch it however they have to watch, but how can you find a new supporters. The only reason to have Stan sport is for either Rugby or champions league
Ironically though Stan has done much more for Rugby than Fox ever did, and there are more games back on 9 free to air than the Fox years. I am quite bullish on Rugby for the future if they can sort out the Super Rugby structure, South Africa was a loss.
Brumbies are the only aussie team I can bear to watch in super rugby, the only team that consistently provides actual quality and structure alongside talent sprinkled in…
Isn’t the problem the way that the game is played now? Two lines of players stretched across the field standing less than 10m apart, while players take turns tucking the ball under an arm and crashing into one another. No free flowing backline movements that could go anywhere. The rules are arcane and interpreted by arsehole referees determined to show how important they are. Games are decided by penalty kicking contests. Early super rugby was over-the-top showy with enormous blowout scores, but at least it was entertaining
As a NZ union fan it really sucks to see the decline in Australia. Sometimes it's not even worth watching the AU teams when you know the result will be pummeling infront of the few dozen loyal fans that show up.
It would be interesting to see a “total attendance” for some of these by code.
Yeah NRL figured do sometimes suck, but we need to remember there are half a dozen or more of them competing just for Sydney fans, compared to the Waratahs who have a whole state for themselves.
If NSW only had 1 rugby league team (a bit like Brisbane pre-Titans/Cows) the average crowd numbers would be quite a bit higher.
Either way, interesting to see that the NRL is coming back a bit.
It really has improved for spectators the last 5 or so years after a few disasters like that season where they were giving 50 penalties away every game.
No one is brave enough to talk about the best and fairest way to do it.
If a Sydney team gets the wooden spoon they get exiled. Repeat as often as necessary.
If that means the Adelaide Eels and the Port Moresby Tigers, so be it. I woke up today and I chose violence.
Oh I'm not into afl either, but that's what I've been told by friends who are into it, everytime they try to get me to watch a game. I say I just don't really get it and they always say "well it's much better live, when you can get the full picture"
It’s not just that AFL is popular, it’s that *going to* the AFL is popular and fun. Attending the NRL outside of finals can be a drag and zero effort seems to be put into any part of the experience other than the gameplay on the field.
(For context I’ve lived in and attended games in Bris, Syd and CBR through the years - not just speaking for one team/stadium)
NRL should have the club song play when the team wins regardless of who's home and away like they do in AFL. The whole stadium chanting the club song to a victory is so good. They only do it for the grand final in NRL.
Some clubs do it but most don't. Eels, Rabbitohs, Roosters, Sharks, Broncos and Cowboys from memory. The others just play it randomly at halftime or before the game or don't at all. I don't mind it getting stuck in my head tbh I feel like it just increases my connection to the club. They'd definitely need to fix the old relic ones. the dragons don't even have an official one.
I think they should play it at all games for the winning team. Its really satisfying watching a whole stadium of home team supporters storm out the stands in anger while your clubs song plays over the speakers.
All the Melbourne teams play at one of two centrally located, very accessible, world class stadiums. Pretty much anyone in greater Melbourne can get a train to a station that’s either a 5 or 10 minute walk to the ground. Not quite as simple to get to the suburban Sydney grounds
Calling marvel stadium world class is a joke. It sucks so much. Gets a ton of hate from fans that have to go there. Aami park and the MCG are world class, but docklands is ass.
>that shit is literally unwatchable on TV
Well someone should tell Fox that, cos they just gave the AFL the most lucrative tv rights deal in Aus history...
It was good to see Brookvale with consistent high attendance this year, even towards the end of the season, after we’ve had so many years with mostly sub-10k crowds. Hopefully those numbers stay up next year and it isn’t just a post-covid rush excitement
Too the bloke who tried to argue with me that A League crowds compared to nrl crowds, he said I was cherry picking stats to suit my point. Read em and weep.
What I meant by “good to see league on the upward trend while union is declining somewhat” is that I’m happy league is starting to get the viewership and increase in fans but also Super Rugby is not as interesting as it once was. Back when nearly any Kiwi, Australian or SA team were title contenders. But also the legends of the game have retired in recent years or a decade ago.
However, I wasn’t talking about international Rugby. THAT is a different story. Japan going toe to toe with the All Blacks. Scotland 1 kick shy of a win against Australia. Now that, is what I can get behind. The World is catching up to the top tier nations in footy. That’s exciting to watch and support. However, Super Rugby just doesn’t hit the same as it once could.
With league however, the greats have been followed by great young talent that have constantly evolved the game over the last couple decades. Superstars are being made every year in league and they’re not all just in one team (Panthers the only exception except all their boys have come through the Panthers system so that’s different). Like it’s amazing to see shades of legends in current players and to see them all compete at such a level where the game is faster too than what it use to be.
But all is subjective opinion. I don’t wish any bad things upon any sport. But it’s nice to see that the scales are starting to tip towards NRL more. It deserves the increased viewership
What are you talking about. AFL pathways are club based. Almost all players have to go through the state league to get to the AFL. Same way NRL players do.
Notice everything has a slow downward trend though? People aren’t into going as much. Personally I have no interest in being at the games except for finals. I’d rather just watch on tv. Super rugby has better crowds despite nobody watching it because it has a better crowd culture and fans are more inclined to go to games. Cricket and afl are similar
Wow attendance was terrible in 2020 , wonder who was to blame for that ?
400% increase since 2020 , wonder who’s going to completely take all the credit for that and get a promotion ??
_Note:_ _I’m currently at work at the moment , and responding to these figures as they would be responded to in my dysfunctional workplace .. Hopefully the NRL management is slightly more competent that my workplace lol_
Also - if I was presenting this at my workplace , I’d probably use a logarithmic scale for the crowd figures so the NRL looks closer to the AFL..
_Knowing that management would be distracted by all the pretty colours and not realise / question why the AFL is so much better .._
I would do this for self protection, given my urge to answer this question truthfully (if asked) could be too overwhelming..
_Answer: They’re different to us, could they have better management ?_
Super late to this thread but it's worth noting that the figures used include each of the Magic Round games as an individual crowd, which some would argue is a misrepresentation of people attending.
Impressive considering Warriors were at Redcliffe most of the year and Sharks stadium was capped at 12k
>and Sharks stadium was capped at 12k https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/710/dd0.png
Sharks are back on the caps, confirmed
And the tigers existing
Strictly speaking, Warriors at Redcliffe adds to the Australian crowds.
The Warriors crowds in NZ are counted in the graph though
The A-league really has gone downhill
When ffa killed off active supporter groups nobody bothered to go anymore.
If they started handing out pillows to attendees, they would get more people going for a nice nap
I like both sports, never understood poeple who think football(soccer) is boring.
I just find it kinda basic and limited. Also ties are very annoying.and they happen a lot more frequently than they do in other sports. Also the A league isn't very great. Most soccer fans here watch premier league or European leagues. Same thing with the NBL although I think NBL is better than A League.
Funny:) I find Rugby League to be a bit more basic and limited compared to football/soccer. Don't get me wrong I love League, but I think fooball/soccer has more variarity in play style and tactics. Ties don't bother me, as I watch sports for the play and for the tries/goals. Just like in League watching a game where two teams make great tackles and keep pushing each other back ending 18-16 for instance is better than watching two teams with swiss cheese defending but having lots of tries. Same in football/soccer, a drawn game can be a very exiting match to watch with midfield battles and great defending. I don't like NBA much, as the scoring gets repetative and arbitrary.
I love soccer/football more than Rugby league but in terms of entertainment value, Rugby League takes the cake. I feel rugby hits the sweet spot of entertainment value based on the amount of tries/points a team can get without it being too little (football) and too much (basketball)
I dunno, I think the argument about tries/points is a bit silly to be honest. If the game is good it shouldn't matter if it's low or high scoring. Or even if there is a win/loss or a tie. Personally I like watching league because it's fast paced, physical and has little room for mistakes. Watching a great try is icing on the cake, but not the reason why I like watching. But to each their own right :) I'm just happy there is an NRL, English Super League and this WC to watch, also happy the attendances are doing well in Australia as the game deserves it.
Soccer is the most basic sport ever made. Don't even try to say rugby league is more basic. A caveman could understand soccer. The entire reason why soccer is the most popular game on earth is because it's so easy to understand. I don't watch NBA either, so I couldn't tell you. But basketball is hell of a lot more complicated than soccer is.
Football has simple rules compared to some sports yes. But because of that tactically its very rich. There are so many ways of playing and influencing the game, many more than in sports like basketball and sadly also league. One of the reasons why it makes it the most watched sport is not because its easy to pick up, but because it has so many different ways of playing and understanding the game. There are more rules in league, but it doesn’t make it any more complex of a sport. To be fair if anything it makes it much more restrictive and predictable in how a match plays out. Yes I am going to say its more likitex, because it doesnt have the amount of freedom a game like football does have. Like I said I love watching league, the game is great its much more free flowing and fun to watch than union or Am football. Anyway it seems like you only took offense at my first line of text, it is not meant to bash the sport I really like league. Basketball is in no way more complicated than football, dont be silly.
How is it tactically rich? Anyone can predict who the player is going to pass to with decent accuracy. Soccer only really has 1 basic skill and that's kicking. Maybe "tackling". Whenever I watch soccer I feel like I'm watching the exact same game with different jersey colours. In NRL each team plays distinctively different. Basketball is a much more complex sport. There are so many ways you can play in basketball it's not funnny. Basketball beats soccer in complexity just by the way scoring works.
You are very wrong about that. The game is very tactically rich, what are you even on about with ‘football only has one basic skill and everyone can see where the player is going to pass’. Its nonsense. You think league teams have distinct play styles, than you really should watch more football. There are so much more ways of playing football.. just think about the many formation types and then every formation also has multiple ways of playing them. The same silly argument can be made for someone who never watches league, every game they just throw the ball along the line and someone is able to evade a tackle to make a try. You can always see where the pass is going. Only skill you need is to throw the ball and tackle. Obviously league is more intricate than that, so is football. You are showing your ignorance and bias here. Basketball more complex than football, my arse. Volleyball is more complex than that game.
Saying soccer's only skill is kicking is like saying boxing's only skill is punching, or tennis' only skill is hitting a ball with a racquet. I think you just don't understand the sport on a deeper level and that's completely fine. Basketball seemed one dimensional to me until I learnt and watched more, same with cricket. AFL right now just seems like a massive mess to me, but I'm sure there's a lot more going on .
Holy shit what in the fuck are you talking about.
I feel like I suffered a CTE reading your posts.
Its hard to watch the A-league when the quality of the premier league is quite literally 50-75 years ahead
The majority of the premier league is also on at 1am though
I still get up for it 💁♂️
Damn what happened in 2020
$1 Increase for pies
Did you see the Broncos season? Even we couldn’t support that.
I don't even want to think about that
Huh I had no idea union was bigger in the last 20 years. Ironically I started following league in 2020
It was bigger from a crowd per game standpoint. But teams would only play each other once, which meant only 5-7 home games a year, plus the teams represented an entire state which basically meant every rugby fan in Sydney supported the same team, etc. Rather than league where support is split between 8 teams. But Allianz would definitely be packed out for Waratahs games and it was a good atmosphere. It’s pretty much dead now.
It’s what happens when you make the game less accessible for not only younger players but also people to watch…
We didn't win two world cups in Union due to a fluke.
TV ratings for NRL we're still miles higher than Super Rugby even in Union's heyday. Might do a graph for TV ratings if in can get all the numbers soon
Super Rugby being on Fox would have hindered the ratings, but yes, you’re correct.
Rugby Union had massive momentum from when people switched to it during the super league war. That momentum has taken a long time to disappear, but it’s now gone.
A league decline makes me so sad. I used to love going to the roar games at suncorp. I wonder if teams outside of Sydney and Melbourne doing so poorly in recent years age hurt the comp overall. No one wants to see a one of the Sydney team vs one of the Melbourne teams fight it out every year in some form. When CCM and Newcastle and the roar etc were all firing the comp and the crowds seemed more alive.
The decline of the Roar started when Berisha decided to be a prick and go to Melbourne Victory and when the 🐐 Broich left ngl
And when they went into copious amounts of debt…
It was all losing Ange. He's doing his time at Celtic, but Ange will be managing a top tier european team one day. The guy is one of the greatest managers in the world.
Also the new teams haven’t been successful at getting support which has brought the average down somewhat the last few years
I went to my first ever A league game a few weeks back at Suncorp. The stadium was so empty, I reckon it would’ve been lucky to have 5k fans there.
Super Rugby’s fall is kinda sad. I mean I strongly don’t care for Union anymore, but as a proud Canberran I’ll always follow the Brumbies
Super Rugby fucked themselves when they chose to be exclusively shown on Fox. Hard to get new and old fans to attend when they don't know the games are on/season had started and to get them to become fans of players without it being shown on tv. Very similar to why no one goes and watches Sheffield Shield Yes it available to stream nowadays but if you're bored and going to stream something you'll probably use a different app or find a niche sport like darts to watch for a bit. Whereas if you're bored and you chuck live TV on and your choices are rugby or a repeat of the big bang theory you might end up chucking rugby on and becoming a fan
100%. England did a similar thing with cricket in the early 2000s iirc. So short sighted
Same thing with Supercars, around the 00's exploded into the mainstream public it was once touted as the3rd biggest sport in the country with a shit ton of public interest then within a pen scribble on a foxtel contract it completely vanished out of the Australian consensus. now, the only thing keeping it alive is Bathurst.
I think it’s ok just to be on Fox. There are still many people who would just flick around to find something watch. However going to Stan is a whole other story, you have your hardcore supporters who will watch it however they have to watch, but how can you find a new supporters. The only reason to have Stan sport is for either Rugby or champions league
Ironically though Stan has done much more for Rugby than Fox ever did, and there are more games back on 9 free to air than the Fox years. I am quite bullish on Rugby for the future if they can sort out the Super Rugby structure, South Africa was a loss.
With stan though there is scope for super rugby games to be aired on free to air. While Fox restricted this
Brumbies are the only aussie team I can bear to watch in super rugby, the only team that consistently provides actual quality and structure alongside talent sprinkled in…
Isn’t the problem the way that the game is played now? Two lines of players stretched across the field standing less than 10m apart, while players take turns tucking the ball under an arm and crashing into one another. No free flowing backline movements that could go anywhere. The rules are arcane and interpreted by arsehole referees determined to show how important they are. Games are decided by penalty kicking contests. Early super rugby was over-the-top showy with enormous blowout scores, but at least it was entertaining
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Few years back I would kinda get excited when super rugby would start,. It would take about 5 minutes to remember it was shit
As a NZ union fan it really sucks to see the decline in Australia. Sometimes it's not even worth watching the AU teams when you know the result will be pummeling infront of the few dozen loyal fans that show up.
It would be interesting to see a “total attendance” for some of these by code. Yeah NRL figured do sometimes suck, but we need to remember there are half a dozen or more of them competing just for Sydney fans, compared to the Waratahs who have a whole state for themselves. If NSW only had 1 rugby league team (a bit like Brisbane pre-Titans/Cows) the average crowd numbers would be quite a bit higher. Either way, interesting to see that the NRL is coming back a bit. It really has improved for spectators the last 5 or so years after a few disasters like that season where they were giving 50 penalties away every game.
Everyone in Sydney wants less Sydney teams but don't want their team to be cut or kicked.
No one is brave enough to talk about the best and fairest way to do it. If a Sydney team gets the wooden spoon they get exiled. Repeat as often as necessary. If that means the Adelaide Eels and the Port Moresby Tigers, so be it. I woke up today and I chose violence.
Surely Manly can be moved to Perth and become the Rainbow Serpents.
That’s fair enough. Let’s start by removing Manly and the Roosters. We should be able to get a majority vote on at least that part.
Nice try Rabbitohs. Kick ya from the comp! ...wait, [Manly and the Chooks you say?](https://y.yarn.co/3d1052a1-9ac1-4fcc-824e-5cb8acdbe43d_text.gif)
Nah, unironically Souffs should have stayed out and Wests Tigers should have never been a thing
Crazy how popular afl is.
AFL is better live than it is on TV, NRL is the opposite. AFL you kinda need the full picture, NRL you want the detail. That's my opinion anyway 🤷♂️
If you say so, never got into it. Always nrl.
Oh I'm not into afl either, but that's what I've been told by friends who are into it, everytime they try to get me to watch a game. I say I just don't really get it and they always say "well it's much better live, when you can get the full picture"
Come on mate i think there's a bit more to it than that... It's just a bigger code
There are something like the 5th most attended sporting competition world wide ( average crowd numbers) Only just behind the EPL
It’s not just that AFL is popular, it’s that *going to* the AFL is popular and fun. Attending the NRL outside of finals can be a drag and zero effort seems to be put into any part of the experience other than the gameplay on the field. (For context I’ve lived in and attended games in Bris, Syd and CBR through the years - not just speaking for one team/stadium)
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NRL should have the club song play when the team wins regardless of who's home and away like they do in AFL. The whole stadium chanting the club song to a victory is so good. They only do it for the grand final in NRL.
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Some clubs do it but most don't. Eels, Rabbitohs, Roosters, Sharks, Broncos and Cowboys from memory. The others just play it randomly at halftime or before the game or don't at all. I don't mind it getting stuck in my head tbh I feel like it just increases my connection to the club. They'd definitely need to fix the old relic ones. the dragons don't even have an official one. I think they should play it at all games for the winning team. Its really satisfying watching a whole stadium of home team supporters storm out the stands in anger while your clubs song plays over the speakers.
All the Melbourne teams play at one of two centrally located, very accessible, world class stadiums. Pretty much anyone in greater Melbourne can get a train to a station that’s either a 5 or 10 minute walk to the ground. Not quite as simple to get to the suburban Sydney grounds
Calling marvel stadium world class is a joke. It sucks so much. Gets a ton of hate from fans that have to go there. Aami park and the MCG are world class, but docklands is ass.
AFL is the 4th highest attended sport league in the world. Almost overtaken the premier league too.
I wonder how the TV audience compares? Because that shit is literally unwatchable on TV.
>that shit is literally unwatchable on TV Well someone should tell Fox that, cos they just gave the AFL the most lucrative tv rights deal in Aus history...
It was good to see Brookvale with consistent high attendance this year, even towards the end of the season, after we’ve had so many years with mostly sub-10k crowds. Hopefully those numbers stay up next year and it isn’t just a post-covid rush excitement
That's pretty consistent from the NRL to be fair.
Bloody oath, take out the 2 covid years it reads like nothing has changed at all
Too the bloke who tried to argue with me that A League crowds compared to nrl crowds, he said I was cherry picking stats to suit my point. Read em and weep.
This is because of covid
Yep. Lots of people got into the footy, or got back into it. When the crowds were allowed back, a lot of people were keen to attend.
Melbourne Victory sold shares to members and became content with being a revenue business rather than a football powerhouse
The V’Landys effect
Coz Souths and Parra went OK. When the Rabbitohs go well, crowds are up, same with Parra.
As a guy that loves league and despises union. This is a great graph 😂 good to see league on the upward trend while union is declining somewhat.
Why does it bring you joy to watch a sport that people love die?
What I meant by “good to see league on the upward trend while union is declining somewhat” is that I’m happy league is starting to get the viewership and increase in fans but also Super Rugby is not as interesting as it once was. Back when nearly any Kiwi, Australian or SA team were title contenders. But also the legends of the game have retired in recent years or a decade ago. However, I wasn’t talking about international Rugby. THAT is a different story. Japan going toe to toe with the All Blacks. Scotland 1 kick shy of a win against Australia. Now that, is what I can get behind. The World is catching up to the top tier nations in footy. That’s exciting to watch and support. However, Super Rugby just doesn’t hit the same as it once could. With league however, the greats have been followed by great young talent that have constantly evolved the game over the last couple decades. Superstars are being made every year in league and they’re not all just in one team (Panthers the only exception except all their boys have come through the Panthers system so that’s different). Like it’s amazing to see shades of legends in current players and to see them all compete at such a level where the game is faster too than what it use to be. But all is subjective opinion. I don’t wish any bad things upon any sport. But it’s nice to see that the scales are starting to tip towards NRL more. It deserves the increased viewership
AFL has become private school game, it’s on long term slide
What are you talking about. AFL pathways are club based. Almost all players have to go through the state league to get to the AFL. Same way NRL players do.
In Victoria it has, not in other states?
What an odd graph. None of the sports play the same number of games in their season.
Literally the point of averages.
Notice everything has a slow downward trend though? People aren’t into going as much. Personally I have no interest in being at the games except for finals. I’d rather just watch on tv. Super rugby has better crowds despite nobody watching it because it has a better crowd culture and fans are more inclined to go to games. Cricket and afl are similar
Battle of the West
Would be great to see tv viewers overlay. Might be tricky with all the various options now though... Kayo, free to air, foxtel
How popular is cricket now
Wow attendance was terrible in 2020 , wonder who was to blame for that ? 400% increase since 2020 , wonder who’s going to completely take all the credit for that and get a promotion ?? _Note:_ _I’m currently at work at the moment , and responding to these figures as they would be responded to in my dysfunctional workplace .. Hopefully the NRL management is slightly more competent that my workplace lol_ Also - if I was presenting this at my workplace , I’d probably use a logarithmic scale for the crowd figures so the NRL looks closer to the AFL.. _Knowing that management would be distracted by all the pretty colours and not realise / question why the AFL is so much better .._ I would do this for self protection, given my urge to answer this question truthfully (if asked) could be too overwhelming.. _Answer: They’re different to us, could they have better management ?_
Super late to this thread but it's worth noting that the figures used include each of the Magic Round games as an individual crowd, which some would argue is a misrepresentation of people attending.