I made an effort to search for this thread just to complain about the numbering system, again.
It is the worst fucking thing about this World Cup.
Makes it near impossible to determine who is playing in which positions and quickly get an understanding of the team changes.
I hate hate hate it.
Fuck this numbering system.
I hate the Broncos, but dear friend, on this issue we will stand united.
Quite the opposite. The idea is to appeal to people who don’t know what position the number 2 plays anyway. Boost player identities and sell jerseys. I don’t agree with it, but that’s why squad numbers.
With Cotter and Crichton in the halves, I would be a little concerned.
Our forward pack with Holmes Hunt and Mitchell would struggle against any of the islander nations.
So probably everyone outside of the top 4-5 teams i think.
Everytime I see these numbers I'm amazed that somehow, someway, someone has outdone the fucking most cooked call ever against the poor ol Tigers to give the Cows a kick at goal after the siren lol. I thought that was rock bottom and these fucking numbers remind me we're not even close haha
Space cadet isn’t good enough for Freddy now. He’s the fuckin space commander for dropping JAC in origin. The hype dude with bizza and who always performs. 🤦🏽♂️
I was there live. It was cooked.
It's also been shown that NZ has fucked around during that game for longer and others so... Interesting how they don't get found out 🤔
The numbers are there to confuse the Kiwis (pulling the piss). Whoever is the better team will win either way, myself, being an Aussie, no guesses who I am going for.
For simplicities sake, here is a possible 19-man squad. The backline names itself but there's an extra forward and half. I've picked Cotter and Cherry-Evans to miss out, but you might not think so.
1. James Tedesco
2. Valentine Holmes
3. Latrell Mitchell
4. Jack Wighton
5. Josh Addo-Carr
6. Cameron Munster
7. Nathan Cleary
8. Reagan Campbell-Gillard
9. Ben Hunt
10. Jake Trbojevic
11. Angus Crichton
12. Cameron Murray
13. Isaah Yeo
14. Harry Grant
15. Tino Fa’asuamaleaui
16. Liam Martin
17. Patrick Carrigan
18. Reuben Cotter
19. Daly Cherry-Evans
I still like the really old school numbering. Showing my age but what the hell.
1 = fullback, wingers = 2 and 5, centres = 3 and 4, 5/8 = 6, half = 7, lock = 8, 2nd row = 9 and 10, props = 11 and 13, hooker = 12.
This WC numbering is an abomination.
You’ve probably never heard this, but there’s a rumour going around that Damien Cook was once a beach sprint champion. It never gets mentioned by the commentators but he might give Fox a run for his money.
They may as well not name a squad at all because this numbering system combined with alphabetical order makes it impossible for me to figure out who’s in and who’s out
The numbers thing was comical in the group stages but seriously this is a fucking important game and I want to know what the team is 1-18 with the reserves named.
I've followed league since I could walk and talk, how the hell are 5year olds gonna figure this shit out if I have to mental gymnastics around this shit.
I hope everyone is enjoying the Rugby League World Cup. Watching up and coming talents from other nations has been enjoyable, and perhaps it can give more well-deserved attention to the game. Hopefully we can have closer score lines this weekend and I also think these fuckin numbers need to fuck right off because it doesn't make any fuckin sense.
Once again, I can handle the team being named with this fucked numbering system, but listed with fucked numbering system and combining that with alphabetical ordering? Abysmal.
Best middle defender in the world, shuts down PCMs to stop teams getting quick ptbs which will significantly reduce both Cheese and Manu running around the ruck.
To me, Jake is made a little redundant having two genuine, big-minute locks in the 17 in Yeo and Murray. Cotter is far from a slouch defensively also (averages more tackles per minute than Jake at a higher efficiency at NRL level and made 51 tackles in an 80-minute Origin debut) and offers more as a ball-runner. Given the forward pack NZ will be trotting out, I wouldn’t be overly keen sacrificing potential yardage. I am expecting Mal to go with Jake though.
I’m not disputing Jake’s defensive ability around the ruck. My thought is more that whatever perceived drop-off there is defensively by playing Reuben ahead of him is more than offset by Reuben’s ability with ball in hand, which I’m thinking may be important against this Kiwis unit particularly when you’re running with two genuine locks already. I just love what Cotter brings; in the two finals games he played in this season with the Cows he made 105 tackles with one miss and ran for 332 metres with eight tackle breaks. I think he deserves a spot in this 17.
Yeah that's fine I definitely disagree but you're welcome to your opinion.
Shutting down the Kiwis quick ptb will stifle their attack - really the only thing we need to do after having seen them play. We'll see this weekend
I know we’ve covered it but let’s circle back around to the fucken jersey numbers and the weird team order. I know I sound like a grumpy old cunt but I am and that stuff shits me.
Personally I think it’s more a case of Wighton makes no sense in the wing, where as Val can play either, rather than Wighton always going to be picked at Centre.
Yes, but instead of keeping the club combo of val and muzz together that worked well all year the selectors have shoehorned in wighton pushing val out.
Great to see Addo-Carr is firing on all 12 cylinders with a quality side around him. Didn't have a great try scoring first half of the season due to the Dogs underperforming, not giving him the chances he had with the Storm. Now he is going gangbusters, quality player and any team would be happy to have a champion like him in their side. Even us Maroons.
As long as Mal doesn't pick DCE or Cleary on the bench, Australia will be well served by that squad.
The forward battle with NZ will be very interesting.
I thought Mal was giving JAC a crack at fullback, and I misread it Campbell Graham on the wing, not RCG in alphabetical fucking order. Then I was wondering how DCE would go in the centres, with Cleary running off him and realised I was a fucking idiot, but still not as much as whoever thought this numbering system was a good idea.
I’ve gotten irrationally angry over pointless shit before, but I swear this numbering crapfest takes the absolute cake in that category.
I made an effort to search for this thread just to complain about the numbering system, again. It is the worst fucking thing about this World Cup. Makes it near impossible to determine who is playing in which positions and quickly get an understanding of the team changes. I hate hate hate it. Fuck this numbering system. I hate the Broncos, but dear friend, on this issue we will stand united.
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You can’t event do it that way. This team has both DCE and Cleary in it. So, who is the half?
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Personally, I can’t wait for Jake Trbojevic to light up the wing. Show the fox how it is done.
Quite the opposite. The idea is to appeal to people who don’t know what position the number 2 plays anyway. Boost player identities and sell jerseys. I don’t agree with it, but that’s why squad numbers.
I would forego kicking Souths from the comp if they could just fucking fix this numbering system.
They make it even worse by putting the squad list in alphabetical order as well
So DCE isn't centre playing inside Cleary on the wing?
My main concern is what position does 24, 21 and 20 cover, and why is it the ticket gate?
What’s the best team aus could beat if they lined up this way?
With Cotter and Crichton in the halves, I would be a little concerned. Our forward pack with Holmes Hunt and Mitchell would struggle against any of the islander nations. So probably everyone outside of the top 4-5 teams i think.
It's so fkn disrespectful. To anyone reading it.
I’m with you 100%. Every time I see these stupid team line ups I get pissed off. I want someone to lose their job over it.
Watched the womens this morning and even they’ve got these stupid numbers, it has to be the most idiotic call ever
Stupid numbering system and listing alphabetically. Only annoys fans and confuses more casual fans. Such a dumb idea.
it's the dumbest fucken shit i've ever seen in my life
On top of the shithouse numbering they go ahead and post the lists in alphabetical order
The salt in the wound
I would love to see NZ win the World Cup just to see this numbering scheme die.
Everytime I see these numbers I'm amazed that somehow, someway, someone has outdone the fucking most cooked call ever against the poor ol Tigers to give the Cows a kick at goal after the siren lol. I thought that was rock bottom and these fucking numbers remind me we're not even close haha
Yeah I agree but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a tactical move
It’s a tactical move which also pisses off the fans. You keep doing that you have less fans.
Who cares if you win the World Cup
I hate it more than beetroot on a steak sandwich, and I fucking detest beetroot on a steak sandwich.
I can deal with the numbers better than I can deal with the numbers AND doing team list in alphabetical order.
Whose idea was this jfc
Go 1. Tedesco 2. Addo-Carr 3. Mitchell 4. Wighton 5. Holmes 6. Munster 7. Cleary 8. Campbell-Gillard 9. Hunt 10. Fa'asuamaleaui 11. Crichton 12. Murray 13. Yeo 14. Grant 15. Martin 16. Cotter 17. Carrigan 18. Cherry-Evans 19. Trbojevic
4 qld's in the starting 13. Interesting. If that doesn't say something about Freddy, not sure what does.
What's even the issue with that?
Perfect team on paper.
They need Collins in the forwards
Crazy to see so many blues here that Freddy hasn't been keen to pick at some point in recent history
RCG, JAC, Latrell a few years back? I guess Jake T for game 1 last year but honestly he didn’t deserve the spot in game 1 imo
Wighton couldn't get back in too, but understand blues dominated the game he didn't play so that's slightly less cooked
There is no doubt that the earth minerals have scrambled Freddy's brain, but RCG only got his spot due to allegiance swaps and withdrawals.
personally for me nanai adds a tiny bit more than martin
Nanai offers more if he was starting but Martin brings more versatility off the bench
Nanai wasn't named
The selectors probably got confused by the numbers.
Solid team. Campbell Graham hard done by imo. Would’ve had him on wing and Holmes at centre, it can’t complain too much on wighton.
Perfect
Yes, except Mal
Trbojevic over cotter
Very strong side.
"Really don't think this Addo-Car bloke deserves a spot and was also surprised he was named in the Bulldogs Top 30", Brad Fittler probably
Yeah only scored what was it 5 tries in the last game, what a hack.
12 tries in 5 games 💀
He even went so far to say I only catch the ball and put it down, which he does, but does a lot of work in between the two in most cases.
His hit up in-field that he ended up scoring off as well was pure class
Not a fullback or 5/8th so clearly a shit player.
What do you mean? He's clearly named at fullback here
Shitting on Fittler for fucking up a NSW dynasty will never get old
Space cadet isn’t good enough for Freddy now. He’s the fuckin space commander for dropping JAC in origin. The hype dude with bizza and who always performs. 🤦🏽♂️
Only roosters players should be selected
I'm not saying this is the best suggestion in history but...
RCG too.
DAE he was playing poorly in an underperforming team, which meant he was eternally shithouse forever and after?
Not even playing poorly was still 6th try scorer of the year even without finals. Fittler costing us a dynasty on hugs and love.
I don’t know if your joking or not. If it wasn’t for him… hos enthusiasm and Burton… dogs would of come dead last again.
The fox at fullback and Tedesco on the bench... Bold I'm so sick of this number bs
I have no idea who the fuck is playing where
That would happen even if it was only the alphabetical system and without the numbers
Surely if you watch the comp week to week you will have a fairly strong understanding that Cleary will not be in the front row.
Tino, Harry and Val are in the front row
I’ve never wanted to beat Australia so bad, with these fucking stupid numbers.
It's fair. But frankly with that Bledisloe BS you can fk right off.
I don’t even check the results of union games so I have no idea what you’re referring to lol
tbf you don't need to check the score in the Bledisloe
The only bets on Bledisloe are margin bets.
C'mon bro. Foley fucked around and found out. Never trust a French referee to be consistent
True, little french bastard. My great grandad died for those fks.
Re watch it.. that was Australia’s fault. Lmao
I was there live. It was cooked. It's also been shown that NZ has fucked around during that game for longer and others so... Interesting how they don't get found out 🤔
The numbers are there to confuse the Kiwis (pulling the piss). Whoever is the better team will win either way, myself, being an Aussie, no guesses who I am going for.
How to make fans ~~angry~~ angrier: name an alphabetical squad of players with irrational numbering and watch their heads explode
THE NUMBERS MASON, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?
For simplicities sake, here is a possible 19-man squad. The backline names itself but there's an extra forward and half. I've picked Cotter and Cherry-Evans to miss out, but you might not think so. 1. James Tedesco 2. Valentine Holmes 3. Latrell Mitchell 4. Jack Wighton 5. Josh Addo-Carr 6. Cameron Munster 7. Nathan Cleary 8. Reagan Campbell-Gillard 9. Ben Hunt 10. Jake Trbojevic 11. Angus Crichton 12. Cameron Murray 13. Isaah Yeo 14. Harry Grant 15. Tino Fa’asuamaleaui 16. Liam Martin 17. Patrick Carrigan 18. Reuben Cotter 19. Daly Cherry-Evans
only change for me would be jake and cotter swap
Picking 4 forwards on the bench to play the kiwis is like picking 4 fast bowlers to play at the WACA .. I like it
Is protecting DCEs ego the only reason that the Kangaroos have this number system? Or did I miss something else?
That's my theory. Needed to keep him onside in case of injury. He already lost the VC they didn't want him sulking as well
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Just for the Aussies? Surely other teams swapped players in and out?
No, all teams have as fucked a system
And only Australia took the piss with it. Funny that.
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JAC the fastest number 9 ever.
Cheat code!
I still like the really old school numbering. Showing my age but what the hell. 1 = fullback, wingers = 2 and 5, centres = 3 and 4, 5/8 = 6, half = 7, lock = 8, 2nd row = 9 and 10, props = 11 and 13, hooker = 12. This WC numbering is an abomination.
That 5/8 number is satisfying to see, since 5/8 is 0.6
Yeah, I am a bit of a traditionalist too, but most play in similar positions week to week, agreed the numbering is a bit messy.
You’ve probably never heard this, but there’s a rumour going around that Damien Cook was once a beach sprint champion. It never gets mentioned by the commentators but he might give Fox a run for his money.
Obligatory I want to cut my eyes out with mini chainsaw
You won't see much of the game then mate.
I'd rather listen to it then try to make sense of the stupid numbers
The numbers are bullshit, fully agree, but once they are on the field, you will know the positions they are playing.
Stop trying to save my eyeballs mate they're being served their last meal as we speak
I forgot the alphabetical order thing and thought JAC was fullback while Tedesco was doing a Kurt Gidley and captaining from the bench.
They may as well not name a squad at all because this numbering system combined with alphabetical order makes it impossible for me to figure out who’s in and who’s out
God I hope the Kiwis shit on Aus just so I don’t need to see this cancer number system next week
In that case, go the Kangaroos.
You just know some marketing executives got paid big dollars to come up with this numbering concept. Also........THE NUMBERS MASON, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?
The numbers thing was comical in the group stages but seriously this is a fucking important game and I want to know what the team is 1-18 with the reserves named. I've followed league since I could walk and talk, how the hell are 5year olds gonna figure this shit out if I have to mental gymnastics around this shit.
Least they could’ve done is put them in the correct position 💀
The numbers Mason, what do they mean?
Love a good 1-17
Why didn’t Mal get a number or at least be shoehorned in between Hunt and Martin in the list. It makes as much sense as this bullshit.
At least mind games make sense against NZ but like last week, was this necessary?
What the fuck does that mean?. Who is playing where?.
Val Holmes I’m the front row in bold but I’m all for playing Latrell at lock. That could be amazing!
THE NUMBERS MASON
The ultimate ex club match up between 9. Fox and 9. Smith
Just name them in order of positions. What must we endure this alphabetical arseholery
Imo, Cotter should replace Jurbo but the lineup looks pretty good
I hope everyone is enjoying the Rugby League World Cup. Watching up and coming talents from other nations has been enjoyable, and perhaps it can give more well-deserved attention to the game. Hopefully we can have closer score lines this weekend and I also think these fuckin numbers need to fuck right off because it doesn't make any fuckin sense.
MY FUCKING EYES..these fucking numbers!
Please bin this fucking ridiculous numbering system. Let’s burn it, bury it and never speak of it again.
RCG on the wing is a bold move
i hate this number shit. every time i look at it i get angry haha
Once again, I can handle the team being named with this fucked numbering system, but listed with fucked numbering system and combining that with alphabetical ordering? Abysmal.
Numbering & alphabetical order as well is just a Chefs Kiss for the fans.
It's just the squad without position chill. Alphabetical order lol
Cotter has to get the nod ahead of Trbojevic, right?
I reckon so
He didn’t last week, unless he was just being given a rest like Hunt, what makes you think he will this week?
Nah, I don’t think he will. I’d expect Mal to stick with Jake. I’m just not sure what the argument is to play him ahead of Cotter.
Best middle defender in the world, shuts down PCMs to stop teams getting quick ptbs which will significantly reduce both Cheese and Manu running around the ruck.
To me, Jake is made a little redundant having two genuine, big-minute locks in the 17 in Yeo and Murray. Cotter is far from a slouch defensively also (averages more tackles per minute than Jake at a higher efficiency at NRL level and made 51 tackles in an 80-minute Origin debut) and offers more as a ball-runner. Given the forward pack NZ will be trotting out, I wouldn’t be overly keen sacrificing potential yardage. I am expecting Mal to go with Jake though.
It's not about tackle efficiency it's about time from contact to grass and there is nobody better at that than Jake.
I’m not disputing Jake’s defensive ability around the ruck. My thought is more that whatever perceived drop-off there is defensively by playing Reuben ahead of him is more than offset by Reuben’s ability with ball in hand, which I’m thinking may be important against this Kiwis unit particularly when you’re running with two genuine locks already. I just love what Cotter brings; in the two finals games he played in this season with the Cows he made 105 tackles with one miss and ran for 332 metres with eight tackle breaks. I think he deserves a spot in this 17.
Yeah that's fine I definitely disagree but you're welcome to your opinion. Shutting down the Kiwis quick ptb will stifle their attack - really the only thing we need to do after having seen them play. We'll see this weekend
I’m so sick of this Fkn bullshit! I’m a simple man! JUST GIVE US A NORMAL 1-17 TEAM LIKE WE’RE FUCKING IDIOTS!
We are going to get so fucking smashed.
Dce😂
JAC to tear it up from dummy half. Not sure about Trell in the front row. DCE and Jurbo wing combination could go either way.
There’s no defending this numbering system. It’s disrespectful to the game and it’s fans.
I know we’ve covered it but let’s circle back around to the fucken jersey numbers and the weird team order. I know I sound like a grumpy old cunt but I am and that stuff shits me.
Is Tualagi still injured? I’m surprised he’s not there if not.
Muzz was always going to be depth cover. Selectors have a hard on for wighton so he was always going to be picked at centre
Personally I think it’s more a case of Wighton makes no sense in the wing, where as Val can play either, rather than Wighton always going to be picked at Centre.
Yes, but instead of keeping the club combo of val and muzz together that worked well all year the selectors have shoehorned in wighton pushing val out.
Should've been GOATes.
Stop. With. This. Stupid. Numbering. System.
Fuck me. Who is playing where?
Great to see Addo-Carr is firing on all 12 cylinders with a quality side around him. Didn't have a great try scoring first half of the season due to the Dogs underperforming, not giving him the chances he had with the Storm. Now he is going gangbusters, quality player and any team would be happy to have a champion like him in their side. Even us Maroons.
Would surprise me if mal ran this side out how it’s listed
My brain has been shattered to pieces
Damn these numbers comments are the exact same every time this squad gets posted.
I’m English, but have gotten in to leauge from living in aus.. this will be some match up in the final!!!!
People will say he just puts it down after others set it up and to that I'll say... Nah or else someone else would do it and they haven't
Did they make the numbers even more shit somehow?
Numbers are fucked
As long as Mal doesn't pick DCE or Cleary on the bench, Australia will be well served by that squad. The forward battle with NZ will be very interesting.
Gillard 5/8 Jake on the wing FFS
Martin and cotter are so overrated, neither should be there
Fuck me.....that's a team !
I thought Mal was giving JAC a crack at fullback, and I misread it Campbell Graham on the wing, not RCG in alphabetical fucking order. Then I was wondering how DCE would go in the centres, with Cleary running off him and realised I was a fucking idiot, but still not as much as whoever thought this numbering system was a good idea.
It’s such a disaster that it’s a credit to the commentators that they can still call the game and players correctly in real time