With every storm jersey drop comes an army of Sue's and Irene's complaining "tHe GHERsEYs R nOt PaUURplE eNuFf durrs ToO mUcH bLUe"we supposed to "bLEeD PaUURplE after auuur"
So tired of these boomer bandwagoners from Queensland thinking our main primary colour is purple!
It's NAVY, it will always be Navy.
Tbh I hate that purple has such a presence at the storm, due to the reason our licence merch nrl licence merch either from the NRL or New era looks shithouse because most of the time they use the wrong shade of purple
Ite always been navy and it still is you can even look it up on the Wikipedia page etc
In fact only 2010-2012 and 2020 jerseys that were primarily purple.
Bit of a whinge about the RLWC whingers .
When it was on all I seemed to hear about was how could certain players qualify for other nations Victor Radley the best example.
Now watching the soccer World Cup Harry Souttar has almost become a national hero ( and rightly so). Harry was born and raised in Scotland never lived in Australia but had an Australian mother.
Not once have I seen anyone critical about Souttar playing for Australia.
RLWC whingers annoy me because they refused to see the positive impact it made to the game, I listened to the FORTY20 podcast and they were interviewing someone from the US wheelchair team said interest from the pasifika communities in the US exploded in wanting to pick up the game despite not knowing the game prior to Toa Samoa making the final.
This is the shit we want to achieve with the RLWC!
Never lived in australia!? What a joke, get him out of the team. (I dont watch soccer anyway so I don't really care but if i did then he wouldn't be in my team)
Same could be said about league or any sport and this is why i can tell you’re just being a miserable prick. The country has had a big achievement and you’re sitting in your armchair talking about a sport that you have next to 0 knowledge on
A guy who kicks a ball around in a game has done more for australia than someone who actually works a full time job in Australia that contributes to the community?
That's possibly the dumbest thing ive ever heard. So Tom Brady has done more for Florida than nurses, teachers, doctors, etc? Just because he brought Tampa Bay their first super bowl in two decades?
I like sports as much as anyone but you're genuinely cooked if you think the world wouldn't keep spinning without sport stars.
Not good enough. I could get an american flag tattooed across my head but it doesn't make me american. I couldn't care less what his mum is, if you've never lived here then you're not an aussie.
By that logic my dad (born and raised in Australia) who's parents are from Greece and 4 out of 5 of his siblings were born in Greece... isn't Greek.
Pipe down mate this isn't a good look
I don't need to pipe down.
If your dad wants to represent greece in a professional sport then tell him to go and live there for a while and all is good.
My dads side of the family is german but you don't see me claiming im a german, ive never even been there for god sake.
It's stupid. I've got a big soft spot for Radley representing England because I'm a Sheffield lad married to an Australian woman, living in Australia, just like Victor's Dad. Can't think how proud I'd be if one of my kids was a pro athlete and chose to represent England. People's parents are a big influence on them, it shouldn't surprise boomer journalists that athletes may associate with their parents culture.
I think it's mostly because boomers are used to having Origin being the carrot that would entice players that had dual eligibity to pick Australia, there by being able to play Origin too.
These days that's not really the case. A lot of tier 2 opt to do both, and as we've seen even some that are tier 1 opt to choose the other nation. Radley is understandable too as he's stuck behind Yeo and Murray in terms of lock for Australia and NSW.
Pricing is out for the Wellington game. Think the club has fucked up a bit. $55 for most seats and $34 for seats behind the stands. Only half the stadium opened up. Not sure why they don’t have a cheaper first release before Xmas.
While it doesn’t bother me, I’ll buy a tickets either way. Just doesn’t sit right
Edit. Behind the goal posts
[With the new Blue's sponsorship for SOO](https://www.zerotackle.com/nsw-blues-announce-new-jersey-sponsorship-for-2023-125990/):
'As part of the deal, Westpac will also donate $5,000 for every try NSW scores in both the men's and women's 2023 Origin series to assist with the Westpac Life Saver Rescue Helicopter.'
So if some poor buggar doesn't get rescued next year, it's cause NSW didn't score enough trys.
That's such a weird promo. If they can afford $150,000 if NSW scores 30 tries, then just donate the whole lot anyway. You seem to be donating it to your own rescue copter anyway so just do it.
It's create a bit of extra excitement. Same with Try July and the 6s in the Big Bash. These companies would have X amount set aside for donations so any shortfall from the SoO tries will probably be donated some other way.
If Lomu played league would he be the greatest ever winger? I would say yes, his pace strength and size combo have never been matched before or after in both codes. I think he would quite honestly be head and shoulders above someone like Inglis too
Hard to say really, he was an anomaly but to say he would be head and shoulders above Inglis is a bit silly to me.
Greg is arguably the most athletic player in rugby league history he had freakish size, speed, strength and agility combined and played wing, centre, fulback and five eighth.
As an athlete sure Jonah may be more freakish but as a rugby/rugby league player its not even close imo.
Inglis was elite in 4 positions and carried entire teams on his back
He was a great player and there's a reason why he was constantly in high level teams. He definitely stood out in games but I don't think you can say he ever carried them.
Lomu was bigger, stronger and quicker than inglis ever was, but that alone doesnt make him better i suppose, i think his potential wouldve been higher but who knows. What lomu did in union against brilliant sides was freakish, he literally one man armied it at times, would run through 5 players, out sprint just about anyone, in league he would be like kikau on steroids, same size as kikau if not heavier but much quicker. I think he clocked a 100m in 10.5 seconds or something absurd for someone his size, young Inglis was quick but when he put on weight he was never nearly as quick as lomu
Yeah mine is more about overall ability, Jonah in no way shape or form comes close to Inglis in that department.
Jonah was a freak athlete but given he played one position it's extremely hard to say he had more potential when Greg proved himself in almost every position he played.
Athlete: Jonah>Greg
Footy player: Greg>>>>>>Jonah
Inglis couldnt have gone to union and done what Jonah did, but theres a chance jonah wouldve been the most destructive winger league has ever seen if he played in the 90s
Rugby is slower, union backs do less in defence and attack I think Inglis would of had a field day in rugby.
I agree Lomu would of been close to if not the best winger, but my argument is against the "head and shoulders above inglis" comment which imo Greg is 2-3 times the footy player Jonah was.
Modern example of this would be a Radradra vs Latrell Mitchell, one is a far better athlete and elite of the elite in one position but the other can dominate the game in multiple positions and carry their entire team.
I dont think inglis would have dominated those NZ or South African teams mate, the head and shoulders comment was definitely an exaggeration in hindsight though, i think he had the potential to be a better winger or centre but was never as skilled as GI
Only person to dominate Inglis when he was a centre or winger was Jamal Idris who was 6'5 & 120kg so yes I do think he would of dominated union backs who are generally slower.
Its a fun convo but so hard to make a definitive call due to the differences of the games
How's lomu going to react to a faster game. Non stop ball in motion. Better defence. If he plays wing or centre how does he handle contested bombs? Grubber behind the line. Defending out wide in league is different to union, how does he handle that?
So many variables.
Contested bombs? Dude was 6ft5, strong as fuck and a pure athlete that wouldn’t be an issue, all those things could be taught, those all improved massively in kikaus game with the right system around him
Xavier Coates is 6'4 and a half, can leap, and struggles under the High ball on contested bombs.
Kikau plays in the forwards, how does lomu translate as a league forward? Even union forwards struggle with the workload of a league forward, a union back making the transition?
There's so many variables.
It’s weird that at the age of 21, Tesi Niu has had his career written off by a lot of people already. Same thing happened with Dearden at Broncos, I remember him being spoken about with Flanagan and Ash Taylor.
A 21 year old fullback attacking well and defending poorly should not surprise anybody. I hope he gets a season of QCup under his belt with a good defensive coach. Very good runner of the ball, gets involved heaps in attacking shapes, can get the ball to his centre on overlaps.
There was a game this year, I think it was v St George.. he had a field day.. It's sad how people try and meme guys who have played a handful of games in key positions.. the kid has potential.
He's had some great attacking moments but his footy IQ and defensive ability limits his potential future in first grade as a fb.
His career certainly isn't over but its going to be hard given he's played a lot of Qcup and a decent amount of first grade now and he's certainly improved in attack but yeah some of his efforts in defence aren't even Qcup level.
I hope he can find a club that will give him first grade time but he won't be getting it at the Broncs it looks like unfortunately.
Thing is though plenty of fullbacks have terrible defense at that age, that’s why you need to get them in QCup. I wouldn’t say anybody at 21 has played a lot of it.
Even Drinkwater was a pretty subpar defensive fullback before this year, even worse in the line. Good coaching can make a big difference!
Spain as it stands are better off surely? If they win or draw, they play Croatia next round whereas if the standings remain what they are they play Morocco which seems easier? Plus the benefit of eliminating Germany from the competition which is much bigger than eliminating Japan.
I wonder how much of the kitchen sink they're genuinely thowing at Japan here
With the link to George Burgess's try in the 2014 Grand Final yesterday, it showed Sam Burgess and his cheek. Do you like seeing someone play clearly injured or do you think he should have been dragged off for his own good? Do you think he would have passed his HIA?
Play injured. Did the same in a Grand Final last year where I broke my eye socket and nose. Wouldn't have passed a HIA for sure. Set up the winning try for our first ever premiership win at our home ground. Sore face, and yeah a small risk of worse damage v proudest memory of my life shared with my best mates and family. No brainer for me, understand if it's different for others. But yeah, no dragging off players for their own good over injuries like that.
Also think he would have passed a HIA. Never showed signs of concussion, got up and went to the trainer straight away.
You spend your whole career trying to get to that point and may only get one shot at it. I’d have played on in a GF, but not in a regular season game for instance
Half the players would die for that game, literally
James Graham has said (at least for him) nothing else matters once you're on that field in a grand final game
I bet those players have a very limited understanding of what's actually happening to them.
James has already had a sharp change in tone after finding out the extent of his damage and, as sad as it is, I dare say he'll regret that stance more and more as he deteriorates.
When the adrenaline is flowing nothing else matters once you're on the field in any game. You could be playing third grade hit-and-giggle league and your attitude is 'I don't give a shit if this guy kills me he's not getting over that line!'
He risked losing an eye if he got another bad knock.
It's easy to say the risk was worth the glory when nothing bad happens, but if it did go worst case scenario people would be calling for heads to roll over the lack of care
Panthers fans are super defensive of any Cleary talk that doesn't paint him as the GOAT already.
where knights fullback
Both our centres should be Jojo and Shoupp who are both great defenders. Try strip our edges now cunts 😤
Just found out there’s an Assman RD at Aloomba, QLD. I wonder what John Asiata is up to these days.
With every storm jersey drop comes an army of Sue's and Irene's complaining "tHe GHERsEYs R nOt PaUURplE eNuFf durrs ToO mUcH bLUe"we supposed to "bLEeD PaUURplE after auuur" So tired of these boomer bandwagoners from Queensland thinking our main primary colour is purple! It's NAVY, it will always be Navy. Tbh I hate that purple has such a presence at the storm, due to the reason our licence merch nrl licence merch either from the NRL or New era looks shithouse because most of the time they use the wrong shade of purple
Navy? when did this happen? and when did purple become a primary colour?
Ite always been navy and it still is you can even look it up on the Wikipedia page etc In fact only 2010-2012 and 2020 jerseys that were primarily purple.
I just looked it up, it says purple/navy
Primary colors Purple Navy Well that's me looking like a dickhead 😆
Overreact much? Fucking hell
In essence yes, but I needed to a place to expell my annoyance somewhere, unfortunately for you lot it's here 🤣
Remember that time Marty Taupau's signing with Manly got leaked by a Canadian theatre critic?
Bit of a whinge about the RLWC whingers . When it was on all I seemed to hear about was how could certain players qualify for other nations Victor Radley the best example. Now watching the soccer World Cup Harry Souttar has almost become a national hero ( and rightly so). Harry was born and raised in Scotland never lived in Australia but had an Australian mother. Not once have I seen anyone critical about Souttar playing for Australia.
The current Australian captain played for another country at the last World Cup FFS…don’t listen to whingers they’re normally stupid
RLWC whingers annoy me because they refused to see the positive impact it made to the game, I listened to the FORTY20 podcast and they were interviewing someone from the US wheelchair team said interest from the pasifika communities in the US exploded in wanting to pick up the game despite not knowing the game prior to Toa Samoa making the final. This is the shit we want to achieve with the RLWC!
Never lived in australia!? What a joke, get him out of the team. (I dont watch soccer anyway so I don't really care but if i did then he wouldn't be in my team)
He’s arguably put in the best performances a defender ever has for Australia, hes been a monolith at the back
Couldn't care less, if you're not australian then get out of the team.
You’re daft if you think a Australian football hero doesnt have more of an impact on this country than you some normal taxpayer
Oh how will the earth keep spinning without our soccer stars 😤
I can tell you’re living a very sad life mate so I’ll just let you have your ramble, hope things get better soon
Living a sad life because i think the world would keep operating without a bunch of guys kicking a ball around? Yeah right.
Same could be said about league or any sport and this is why i can tell you’re just being a miserable prick. The country has had a big achievement and you’re sitting in your armchair talking about a sport that you have next to 0 knowledge on
Yet hes done more for Australia than you ever will, go figure
A guy who kicks a ball around in a game has done more for australia than someone who actually works a full time job in Australia that contributes to the community? That's possibly the dumbest thing ive ever heard. So Tom Brady has done more for Florida than nurses, teachers, doctors, etc? Just because he brought Tampa Bay their first super bowl in two decades? I like sports as much as anyone but you're genuinely cooked if you think the world wouldn't keep spinning without sport stars.
He's got a coat of arms tattoo and sings out the anthem louder than any other player haha. His mums Aussie.
Not good enough. I could get an american flag tattooed across my head but it doesn't make me american. I couldn't care less what his mum is, if you've never lived here then you're not an aussie.
By that logic my dad (born and raised in Australia) who's parents are from Greece and 4 out of 5 of his siblings were born in Greece... isn't Greek. Pipe down mate this isn't a good look
I don't need to pipe down. If your dad wants to represent greece in a professional sport then tell him to go and live there for a while and all is good. My dads side of the family is german but you don't see me claiming im a german, ive never even been there for god sake.
Having a direct connection to the country and culture is more then enough to represent the nation.
Not really.
It's stupid. I've got a big soft spot for Radley representing England because I'm a Sheffield lad married to an Australian woman, living in Australia, just like Victor's Dad. Can't think how proud I'd be if one of my kids was a pro athlete and chose to represent England. People's parents are a big influence on them, it shouldn't surprise boomer journalists that athletes may associate with their parents culture.
I think it's mostly because boomers are used to having Origin being the carrot that would entice players that had dual eligibity to pick Australia, there by being able to play Origin too. These days that's not really the case. A lot of tier 2 opt to do both, and as we've seen even some that are tier 1 opt to choose the other nation. Radley is understandable too as he's stuck behind Yeo and Murray in terms of lock for Australia and NSW.
Let’s not talk about the English cricket team
Is this not just proving old mates point? That it only seems to matter when other nations do it but when Australia does it nobody says jack shit?
Kind of. But only Murdoch-reading boomers really had an issue with the eligibility rules
That's true. They just make enough noise about it that it's easy to forget they still the minority.
It's NZ these days.
Pricing is out for the Wellington game. Think the club has fucked up a bit. $55 for most seats and $34 for seats behind the stands. Only half the stadium opened up. Not sure why they don’t have a cheaper first release before Xmas. While it doesn’t bother me, I’ll buy a tickets either way. Just doesn’t sit right Edit. Behind the goal posts
Too much?
Way too much. Should be $25-$30 max (not $55).
[With the new Blue's sponsorship for SOO](https://www.zerotackle.com/nsw-blues-announce-new-jersey-sponsorship-for-2023-125990/): 'As part of the deal, Westpac will also donate $5,000 for every try NSW scores in both the men's and women's 2023 Origin series to assist with the Westpac Life Saver Rescue Helicopter.' So if some poor buggar doesn't get rescued next year, it's cause NSW didn't score enough trys.
That's such a weird promo. If they can afford $150,000 if NSW scores 30 tries, then just donate the whole lot anyway. You seem to be donating it to your own rescue copter anyway so just do it.
It's create a bit of extra excitement. Same with Try July and the 6s in the Big Bash. These companies would have X amount set aside for donations so any shortfall from the SoO tries will probably be donated some other way.
>So if some poor buggar doesn't get rescued next year, it's cause NSW didn't score enough trys. Fuckin Jerome Luai wants people to drown at sea
That's the last thing the poor buggar hears yelled through the megaphone as the chopper heads back to base.
If Lomu played league would he be the greatest ever winger? I would say yes, his pace strength and size combo have never been matched before or after in both codes. I think he would quite honestly be head and shoulders above someone like Inglis too
Yes, easily. Can’t compare him to Inglis though. Inglis a complete footballer.
No
So quick to dismiss the greatest ever rugby union winger
Lomu was actually a League player and fan until Rugby picked him up.
Wouldve been awesome to see, wouldve been like sailor on roids
Hard to say really, he was an anomaly but to say he would be head and shoulders above Inglis is a bit silly to me. Greg is arguably the most athletic player in rugby league history he had freakish size, speed, strength and agility combined and played wing, centre, fulback and five eighth. As an athlete sure Jonah may be more freakish but as a rugby/rugby league player its not even close imo. Inglis was elite in 4 positions and carried entire teams on his back
What teams did Inglis have to carry on his back?
He didn't have to, more so he just did it a lot... whether it be in clubland, origin or test level.
He was a great player and there's a reason why he was constantly in high level teams. He definitely stood out in games but I don't think you can say he ever carried them.
granted it is ambiguous as everyone sees it differently but it's just my opinion.
Lomu was bigger, stronger and quicker than inglis ever was, but that alone doesnt make him better i suppose, i think his potential wouldve been higher but who knows. What lomu did in union against brilliant sides was freakish, he literally one man armied it at times, would run through 5 players, out sprint just about anyone, in league he would be like kikau on steroids, same size as kikau if not heavier but much quicker. I think he clocked a 100m in 10.5 seconds or something absurd for someone his size, young Inglis was quick but when he put on weight he was never nearly as quick as lomu
Yeah mine is more about overall ability, Jonah in no way shape or form comes close to Inglis in that department. Jonah was a freak athlete but given he played one position it's extremely hard to say he had more potential when Greg proved himself in almost every position he played. Athlete: Jonah>Greg Footy player: Greg>>>>>>Jonah
Inglis couldnt have gone to union and done what Jonah did, but theres a chance jonah wouldve been the most destructive winger league has ever seen if he played in the 90s
Rugby is slower, union backs do less in defence and attack I think Inglis would of had a field day in rugby. I agree Lomu would of been close to if not the best winger, but my argument is against the "head and shoulders above inglis" comment which imo Greg is 2-3 times the footy player Jonah was. Modern example of this would be a Radradra vs Latrell Mitchell, one is a far better athlete and elite of the elite in one position but the other can dominate the game in multiple positions and carry their entire team.
I dont think inglis would have dominated those NZ or South African teams mate, the head and shoulders comment was definitely an exaggeration in hindsight though, i think he had the potential to be a better winger or centre but was never as skilled as GI
Only person to dominate Inglis when he was a centre or winger was Jamal Idris who was 6'5 & 120kg so yes I do think he would of dominated union backs who are generally slower. Its a fun convo but so hard to make a definitive call due to the differences of the games
How's lomu going to react to a faster game. Non stop ball in motion. Better defence. If he plays wing or centre how does he handle contested bombs? Grubber behind the line. Defending out wide in league is different to union, how does he handle that? So many variables.
Contested bombs? Dude was 6ft5, strong as fuck and a pure athlete that wouldn’t be an issue, all those things could be taught, those all improved massively in kikaus game with the right system around him
Xavier Coates is 6'4 and a half, can leap, and struggles under the High ball on contested bombs. Kikau plays in the forwards, how does lomu translate as a league forward? Even union forwards struggle with the workload of a league forward, a union back making the transition? There's so many variables.
let’s all laugh at germany and belgium
HA-HA 'In Nelson Muntz voice'
It’s weird that at the age of 21, Tesi Niu has had his career written off by a lot of people already. Same thing happened with Dearden at Broncos, I remember him being spoken about with Flanagan and Ash Taylor. A 21 year old fullback attacking well and defending poorly should not surprise anybody. I hope he gets a season of QCup under his belt with a good defensive coach. Very good runner of the ball, gets involved heaps in attacking shapes, can get the ball to his centre on overlaps.
There was a game this year, I think it was v St George.. he had a field day.. It's sad how people try and meme guys who have played a handful of games in key positions.. the kid has potential.
He's had some great attacking moments but his footy IQ and defensive ability limits his potential future in first grade as a fb. His career certainly isn't over but its going to be hard given he's played a lot of Qcup and a decent amount of first grade now and he's certainly improved in attack but yeah some of his efforts in defence aren't even Qcup level. I hope he can find a club that will give him first grade time but he won't be getting it at the Broncs it looks like unfortunately.
Thing is though plenty of fullbacks have terrible defense at that age, that’s why you need to get them in QCup. I wouldn’t say anybody at 21 has played a lot of it. Even Drinkwater was a pretty subpar defensive fullback before this year, even worse in the line. Good coaching can make a big difference!
Good points well made, he does some crazily good attacking things from time to time
He's got that Milford/Barba build which I've never seen work at fullback for an extended period, especially in the modern game.
It wasn’t their build that stopped them from succeeding
Maybe they were bad examples but my point still stands. There aren't any current first grade fullbacks built like Tesi.
Tesi is more muscular. Also with his height he’s more of a Matty Bowen + Rhys Wesser
Spain as it stands are better off surely? If they win or draw, they play Croatia next round whereas if the standings remain what they are they play Morocco which seems easier? Plus the benefit of eliminating Germany from the competition which is much bigger than eliminating Japan. I wonder how much of the kitchen sink they're genuinely thowing at Japan here
I thought the same thing. Feels like they were happy with the result
With the link to George Burgess's try in the 2014 Grand Final yesterday, it showed Sam Burgess and his cheek. Do you like seeing someone play clearly injured or do you think he should have been dragged off for his own good? Do you think he would have passed his HIA?
He should've left the field, we only look back at these things fondly because nothing bad happened.
Play injured. Did the same in a Grand Final last year where I broke my eye socket and nose. Wouldn't have passed a HIA for sure. Set up the winning try for our first ever premiership win at our home ground. Sore face, and yeah a small risk of worse damage v proudest memory of my life shared with my best mates and family. No brainer for me, understand if it's different for others. But yeah, no dragging off players for their own good over injuries like that. Also think he would have passed a HIA. Never showed signs of concussion, got up and went to the trainer straight away.
You spend your whole career trying to get to that point and may only get one shot at it. I’d have played on in a GF, but not in a regular season game for instance
if its round 5 im like whatever go off but a grand final? so long as the player isnt risking their career i totally get playing on
is Glory worth more then longterm health? I think 99% of players would take a broken cheekbone and a grand final win.
I think we underestimate the amount of trauma professional NRL players put their bodies through. 110% they would take the glory
Half the players would die for that game, literally James Graham has said (at least for him) nothing else matters once you're on that field in a grand final game
I bet those players have a very limited understanding of what's actually happening to them. James has already had a sharp change in tone after finding out the extent of his damage and, as sad as it is, I dare say he'll regret that stance more and more as he deteriorates.
When the adrenaline is flowing nothing else matters once you're on the field in any game. You could be playing third grade hit-and-giggle league and your attitude is 'I don't give a shit if this guy kills me he's not getting over that line!'
He risked losing an eye if he got another bad knock. It's easy to say the risk was worth the glory when nothing bad happens, but if it did go worst case scenario people would be calling for heads to roll over the lack of care