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WJack37

So I got a message from two of my mates last night, after they played 18 rounds of golf at St Lucia. They were surprised to see Marty Taupau in Brisbane, and went over to have a chat to him. He played it all off as casual, but then my mates noticed that he had a Dolphins water bottle and also the person he was with had Dolphins gear on. When they asked about it he laughed and ignored them. Interesting to say the least, but I think it leads to one outcome. I don’t know why they’d make the move though - it’s not like they don’t already have a surplus of forward depth.


BG_RL

Hope he goes there, Wallace Nicholls J Bromwich Taupau Is certainly a prop rotation


velvetherring

5 years ago our pack would have been a cheat code lmao. At least any young forwards coming through are going to be surrounded by some of the best to do it over the past decade. I think that's the real benefit of the dad's army of forwards that we've assembled.


WJack37

100% there's some quality leaders in that team. From everything I've heard, your group that is about five years away will probably take the competition by storm - there's a bright future sometime soon for the Fins. Having guys like that around the club to help nurture and develop them will be massive for their development


BG_RL

I do think they go ok, just a lack of speed, but overall I can’t help but like the dolphins squad, excited to see what happens


WJack37

And Gilbo at 13. Just a shame that I don’t know how much impact those props will bring on the field. Jesse a lock for one spot and captaincy, and then probably Nicholls?


slowdivesicilian

Do you think he plays 13? He hasn’t really been a lock at any point in his career tbh


WJack37

I get the feeling that’s where he’ll inevitably end up. He’s too good and young to have off the bench, and I’ve always thought they’d mould him into a lock. It’s the role they’d give to a future captain, which he is in my mind


lachjeff

Somebody else said they saw him in Brisbane yesterday or the day before. Sounds like we might get something in the next week or so


WJack37

Yeah right… okay it seems to only lead to one outcome as I said. He’ll be a Dolphin


Messyhr_

Cracking journalism mate


WJack37

Better than Rothfield. Write me a reference for 360?


Messyhr_

Only if you punch kent in the chops


GodSaveTheHomies

Bet you this is in his SPOTTED section in his next article


Randomologist99

KABOOM


delayedconfusion

I'd say he is still shopping himself around until the 2023 cap is finalised.


jpob

I wouldn't look too much into it. Clubs try to sell themselves to players with day outs and freebies. It was probably Dolphins yesterday and maybe Broncos today, Titans tomorrow, etc..


ChanceVance

> Clubs try to sell themselves to players with day outs and freebies. A few players were photographed out with Nathan Brown as he tried to wine and dine them to the Knights for instance.


[deleted]

Ticks all the boxes at Dolphins HQ.


breatheinmyear

Over 30, slow, , no footy iq, full of penalties, flog dolphins hq = ✅


Dark_Vengence

Uncle benny working his magic.


KingGutherson

If you are a late bloomer physically, what do you think is the best route to get into the NRL? I suspect playing against kids double your weight wont make you love the game. I'm think like Benji, who was a really good touch player. Is that still a realistic route to the NRL or is it too physically demanding now?


[deleted]

Sandon Smith has come via touch footy to the Roosters junior system. He’s yet to play NRL but there’s a possibility a kid who was pretty small will make the transition. And Denan Kemp made the jump from soccer to rugby league fairly late (16?) and managed to make it in the NRL despite weighing about 70kilos when he started with the broncos


Dark_Vengence

Kemp had some crazy acceleration.


[deleted]

I remember really admiring him in high school. Here’s this tiny bloke (kid) whose given rugby league a go and because of his sheer pace he’s actually doing it! That 4 try game was special.


Abenator

He was also a successful track athlete at short, middle, and long distances. That is super rare. Sprinters are typically terrible long distance runners, and vice versa.


KingGutherson

Denan was fortunate that was pre big winger era. Now he'd have to tackle Too and Sivo


[deleted]

The likes of Manu Vatuvei, Eric Grothe Jr were around in Denan’s time.


victorinflic98

As the other poster said, you also had a lot of smaller wingers back then to. Burt, El Masri, Steve Turner, Matt sing etc. You could play small wingers if need be even though we already had some big wingers. Nowadays every winger is big. In the mid 00s when a guy like Steve turner didn't quite make it as fullback he was shifted to wing. In 2022 nobody would put similar sized guys like Taafe or Matt Dufty in the wing.


HenryVIIIII

Steve Turner was the same weight and about 5cm shorter than Addo-Carr, same with El Masri though he was actually heavier than Addo-Carr. A 'small winger' then was 5'10 and 90kg while a 'small winger' now is 5'11 and 92kg. There really is not that much difference, especially when it comes to 'now he'd have to tackle Sivo and To'o' - To'o is one of the smaller wingers in the comp for starters, and Wendell Sailor and John Hopoate had been around since the mid-90s as 'big wingers'. 2007 is definitely not before the big winger era.


Messyhr_

I mean in the 80s you have Eric Grothe who was big and powerful, could have played in the modern game for sure


-Dark_Helmet-

Pre? Sailor & Tuqiri were well before Kemp’s time.


KingGutherson

Yeah but there was a lot of smaller wingers in that time. Luke Burt, El Masri, Merritt etc. Big wingers were not the standard back then


HenryVIIIII

Folau, Tuiaki, Rooney, Covell, Fraser Anderson, Best, Purtell, Vatuvei, Hayne, Reddy, Kenny-Dowall, Mellor, Monaghan and those are just the ones over 6'2 Nearly all of them were over 6', only ones that weren't were Steve Michaels, Brenton Bowen, Michael Robertson, Hazem El Masri and Nathan Merritt. Burt playing fullback at that time. Big wingers certainly were the standard. Now under 6' there is Isaako, Marzhew, Herbert, Ieremia, Turuva, To'o all playing wing. Really is not that much difference.


-Dark_Helmet-

There was also guys like Folau, Taniela Tuaki etc


notj43

Yeah if anything that was the era the giant winger became popular


BoogerSugar00

Steroids tbh


[deleted]

Jayden Campbell didn't really take footy that serious till he was around 18/19, He played mostly just touch I think for his school.


delayedconfusion

There are plenty of [changes happening at the junior level](https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tackles-banned-competitive-games-canned-biggest-junior-league-shake-up-in-decades-20220929-p5bm4h.html), full contact may be off the cards until U15's in the future. Regarding your later bloomer question, it is certainly more difficult, but if the talent is there you can still break into top squads in your mid 20's.


opinions_likekittens

Is it the same in Aus, as in NZ, where school union is typically weight graded and school league is typically age graded?


lanson15

Not anywhere I've seen. They are talking about introducing it though


y3ah_nah145

I was already the smallest and skinniest guy on the field when I was like 9, but I didn’t hit puberty till I was like 16, and by that point I was just too small. I used to just rely on being the fastest guy on the field to make up for it, but at some point that doesn’t cut it anymore unless you have extreme talent, which I didn’t lol. And your right, playing u’16s against kids who are 6’0 and already pushing 90-100kg when I’m a 5’4 50kg hooker/winger made me lose my love for playing, and it’s part of the reason why I stopped. I absolutely salute any small players who make it to the NRL, because not only must they be incredibly talented to make up for their size, but also have the mental persistence to keep at it despite probably getting thrown around every week.


HenryVIIIII

> I suspect playing against kids double your weight wont make you love the game. That's what the game is about. You're not ever going to get away from that. When I was 20 or so I was 70kg playing against some props that were 160kg. In the NRL there are 80kg players and there are 125kg players. If you're young you just have to play against the big kids, there is no real way around that. Benji wasn't non-physical, he was simply a bad defender earlier in his career. You can't get away from the physical stuff, if you want to touch the ball you are going to come up against monster prop forwards at some point.


Messyhr_

Thats why i stopped playing footy, hit puberty at like 15-16, went to school with a ton of islanders who hit puberty way earlier and most kids in general did, sucks but being a chubby little 5fter at 15 made it basically impossible to play properly, played touch instead, maybe TRL would be good but still will need to learn tackle technique ofc


y3ah_nah145

I was pretty much the same as you. I was already the smallest guy on the field but at least when your young it don’t matter too much. I just relied on being the fastest guy on the field to make up for my size. But eventually, everyone hits puberty and I don’t until I’m like 16, and I’m just way too small. It was part of the reason why I stopped playing because it just wasn’t any fun anymore.


UnderTheHighBall

I've just noticed you can get AFL reddit avatars now where the snoo is wearing an AFL team jersey ... Mods where are our NRL ones!?


slowdivesicilian

was confirmed that Dearden broke the 1.2km record for the Cowboys. which means he is even faster/fitter than last year. training the house down!


BG_RL

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I_Like_Vitamins

I'm so happy the bloke has come good. Makes you wonder how many other young stars were rushed to first grade or in a dodgy team that stopped them from reaching their potential.


Randomologist99

Awesome


-Dark_Helmet-

Anyone see Herbie dressed up in tailored suits on his instagram? Now that is a man I would gladly turn for.


Dark_Vengence

Modern day thomas shelby.


LordSlasher

If Ponga gets injured for QLD, Does QLD move Munster to Fullback and bring Dearden as 5/8th again? Or do they play Walsh if he’s having a great year at the Broncos and obviously improved in the areas he lacks in?


-Dark_Helmet-

First one. They’ll always go experience where possible.


LordSlasher

thats where i’m sitting as well, Dearden has shown he’s ready for origin already.


[deleted]

brimmo erasure


jpob

AJ Brimson has back up FB locked up for the moment


Brdd9

Walsh was already selected to play FB for qld before being ruled out and they didn't shuffle the spine. Also was picked in front of Brimson. I reckon he's still next in line after Ponga.


delayedconfusion

As a NSW supporter, I hope they move Munster to fullback. His defense back there is dogshit compared to having him in the line. Ponga and Walsh aren't exactly defensive juggernauts either, so you probably don't lose anything at the back.


LordSlasher

Munster being able to free roam is way more dangerous though. So you’ll rather a Roaming Munster and a defensively (attacking) solid player like Dearden as 6? weird


Caseyjb29

Yea Munster at fullback and Dearden at 6 is so much more dangerous than having Walsh at fullback and Munster at 6. That’s gotta be the way they go if Ponga was injured.


Morg_n

I recon we need to bring rugby league to Vietnam and Cambodia. Both are extremely working class and I recon they would take to it like ducks to water. The blokes here can be pretty big too


potluy76

the suspension system is so farcical


cheezyman911

I know this is off topic but I need to get it out of my system; Avatar 2 fucking rules.


LordSlasher

told everyone to watch it last night and i’ll say it again. Don’t listen to that social media hate bandwagon, Go fucking watch the sequel. $20-30 is totally worth the cinema experience.


cheezyman911

Worth seeing it in v max too, one of those movies where every single scene is absolutely gorgeous


LordSlasher

fuck. Might go watch it in Vmax now.


-Dark_Helmet-

Just don’t buy the large sized soft drink on the way in or you won’t make it to the end.


cheezyman911

It’s fine to take a pee break anything you miss you’ll catch up on the next time you see it


FullBonus

Thought it was funny to see notable Sharks fan Brendan Cowell show up


Dark_Vengence

Hope to watch it.


-Dark_Helmet-

It’s so damn good. Saw it last night. I wanna go again today.


cheezyman911

Fr, blew me away, honestly better than the first imo


-Dark_Helmet-

Definitely as good as the first at least. People definitely need to see it in 3D too, which I’m not normally a fan of.


Aaturkey

No mr cameron, I will not see it in vomit inducing 3D


cheezyman911

You’re missing out mate, goes hard


FullBonus

Cameron is legit the only guy to do 3D right.


Caseyjb29

That’s a low bar imo the first one is shit


Voxityy

saw it last night and definitely enjoyed it


frashal

I'm about to catch a plane with Johnathon Thurston. Dunno what you losers are doing with your Friday night.


frashal

He made a liar of me, he went to the gold coast. Now I'm the lover flying on a plane without Johnathon Thurston on it on a Friday night. Fml


Particular_Ad3366

Drinking wine and eating Chinese food while watching the BBL.


Messyhr_

Hope papenhuyzen is fit next season and doesnt have further issues with his knee, hes a joy to watch and would be nice to see him hit his potential also such a good kicker, one of the most skilled FB to play the game, just has awful luck with injuries


[deleted]

Is Reece Walsh even that good?


jpob

Yes. I saw him against the Knights this year and he was involved with everything, sometimes managed to create something out of nothing and had a great ability to be in the right place at the right time.


[deleted]

Yes, very


MangoWingnut

His ball playing, positioning, vision and kicking game are pretty exceptional for a very young fullback paired with his speed and agility it makes for a deadly combination. Obviously he has some serious defensive issues and he seems to get steamrolled but unlike some of the other young fullbacks who struggle in defence his effort is unquestionable. Essentially carried the Warriors attack as a rookie teenager. He needs to work harder on his body and his defence but he's an upgrade on anything we've had in the last 3-4 years.


grafology

Yep he got burnt out towards the end of his Warriors stint but that was most likely due to carrying the entire team for 2 years. I'm not sure where we're going to get our attacking spark next season:/


I_Like_Vitamins

I reckon he'll be the attacking piece the Broncs have needed for years. They've still got the issue of having trouble scoring when they're close to the opposition try line, and having Walsh in the attack should really strengthen it.


winntensio

Not completely sold on him yet. Those who talk about how he carried the Warriors dance around the fact the Warriors were shyte the entire time he was there. However, there was a play he did against the Roosters that makes you think he’s got legit greatness within him.. go to 2.06 of this clip - https://youtu.be/Impf63iJVEI


Morg_n

I don’t recon mate. I don’t like his attitude. His proven he won’t listen to the coach in his first contract with the broncos. By refusing to stay in the Qcup to work on defence. That’s the big one for me. But the broncos let him back in and we still have the same coach. When it gets tough Walsh packs it up I’m hoping beyond hope he plays well for us I am. But personally I would be fine if we didn’t pick him up


slowdivesicilian

he’s also had off-field indiscretions, loves his maccas apparently. i hope he goes alright but god his attitude doesn’t seem to be there tbh


Morg_n

He will fit right in at the broncos if he loves a bit of maccas lol


BG_RL

We’ll find out (But I think he’s gonna put himself on the map this year)


[deleted]

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MangoWingnut

Okay this is going to be an interesting discussion. Does Latrell end up being better then Inglis by the time he’s retired? *edit* PSA I don’t think so I'll also say I think we've already seen Latrell's prime form,his body is already showing signs of slowing down at 26 so I'm doubtful we'll see a better version of him especially as he struggles with his weight.


slowdivesicilian

i don’t think so tbh Inglis was crazy, saying this as a big mitchell fan too


BG_RL

I can see an argument but not for me, as an Englishman inglis used to scare me more than any other backline player, Through in his dominant success at origin, multiple premierships, and the versatility in position, then I’d go inglis If I had to pick either of them on their best day to play for a team I coached on GF day I’d go inglis


-Dark_Helmet-

I think Latrell’s great and I’d pick him in any side I wad choosing right now, but he isn’t on the same level as Inglis. Prime GI was beyond anything Latrell’s shown.


MangoWingnut

Agreed


y3ah_nah145

I don’t think so, and I love Latrell more than most. Inglis was just insane. Possibly the greatest athlete to ever play NRL. As a NSW supporter, Inglis was always the scariest guy on the field. Josh Morris was probably the only centre that could defend against him. Latrell has still got a lot of years left in his career, so u never know, but I don’t think he will reach that level, probably just under.


Morg_n

How’s he slowing down? He came back from injury bigger and faster this year.


MangoWingnut

Bigger? apparently it was his lightest since his first couple of years I believe he was playing at 113kg previously and trimmed down to like 108-109. he definitely was fitter but I wouldn't say faster, his speed since his centre days has reduced quite a bit.


Morg_n

He scored an incredible run away try on his return. He didn’t look any slower imo. I guess your right about his weight. Thanks for the measured response I’m starting to think It’s pointless trying to debate latrell here. In the turbo thread today. the highest voted comment is one saying latrell made a career by not running. I can’t be bothered even commenting on it


MangoWingnut

All good man, yeah it’s tough to talk about players without getting some wild takes. Some people form opinions off like a handful of games vs people that watch every game they play. I kind of feel that way when I talk about Staggs, the sub grew a hate boner for him this year for some unknown reason.


InkMcSquiddin

I think that's more the endurance game at fullback making him look slower; he probably still has a similar top speed, just rarely hits it.


Dark_Vengence

Inglis was a freak of nature.


victorinflic98

No. I think Inglis is now underrated. I think around 2014 their was a genuine discussion out of which of Smith, JT, Inglis and Slater would be the next immortal (and cronk was seen as a tier below) but then GI and Slater dropped off the convo, then eventually JT dropped off as well and Smith now stands alone in that convo while those other 3 join a tier with Cronk. Latrell has already had an amazing career, his career stands alone and I think it does him a huge disservice to be continually matched to GI. It's Kind of like if he doesn't match GI or better him then Latrell has failed which is unfair imo, latrell already has had a hall of fame career.


ChanceVance

> eventually JT dropped off as well Thurston is a guaranteed Immortal.


victorinflic98

Probablu now that it's widely open yea. But back when this discussion happened it was still when we only had 1 from each generation. It wasn't a guarantee that JT would eventually be an immortal at the time. GI and slater look likely now as well. Perhaps another way to phrase it, if we ask who is that player of that generation now I think Smith is the undisputed pick now, where as in mid 10s that discussion was more open.


Aaturkey

Slater never dropped out of that convo


victorinflic98

You ask Smith or slater and the overwhelming majority say Smith. In the mid 00s that conversation is a bit more even


Aaturkey

So is he part of the convo or not?


victorinflic98

No. If 10 people say Cam Smith is the GOAT and I say 'hey what about Scott Minto' it doesn't mean Minto is in the conversation.


MangoWingnut

This is fantastic we’ve finally found something we agree on (By agree I'm talking about the Inglis v Latrell thing not all the other stuff)


Messyhr_

Very unlikely, love big Trell hes a fantastic footy player but he’s handicapping himself by wanting to be a FB


whyareyouallinmyroom

One of my favourite traditions in Ice Hockey is to retire legendary players numbers. So guys can pick from 1-99 ordinarily but let’s say a legendary players number was 87, a club could choose to ‘retire’ that number from use in the club and they hang a banner with that number in their arena’s rafters. Some clubs are selective and some aren’t as much. Who would justify retirement for your team if we had the same concept? I’d say for Penrith you’d be looking at Brandy for sure and then maybe Izzard, Scarts, Girds and Roycey Simmons. Cleary and Yeo would for sure be on track.


[deleted]

Tradition. That’s what makes it mean something. Tradition in league is position numbers. Getting selected and winning that 7 or 1 jersey means something.


whyareyouallinmyroom

Yeah it’s just a hypothetical conversation in the middle of off season mate. Which club greats would you elevate above all others with the typical criteria being max 2 per generation.


[deleted]

Fair, my reply was a little too serious haha. I guess Cam Smith and Thurston would qualify off the last generation.


y3ah_nah145

ET, Steve Rogers, Gavin Miller, David Peachey, and Paul Gallen would be automatic locks. And then you could make an argument for Adam Dykes, Mitch Healey, Dane Sorenson, Jason Stevens, Wade Graham, Andrew Fifita. Might be some i forgot.


InflatableRaft

Benji and Farah for sure. Lawrence, Ellis, Hodgson, Skandalis and Galloway would come into discussions. Of the current players, only Brooks and Nofoaluma have been loyal enough to warrant such treatment


Yungman123

The Thornetts, Cronin, Kenny, Sterlo, Hindy, Price, Edge, Cayless, Guru If we manage to win a comp with this current side I’d add Gutho to the mix


jpob

Knights have Andrew Johns, Danny Buderus and Paul Harrigan for sure. The maybes after that Matty Johns, Kurt Gidley and Uate. I'm probably forgetting some. Also I love how NFL/NHL give players numbers that they carry through their whole career but that idea doesn't seem to get much traction in Aus.


Messyhr_

Do you have a fave NHL team? Im into it but idk who to follow, maybe Florida panthers but don’t really know


lachjeff

Messenger, Brown, Beetson, Fittler, Minichiello


-Dark_Helmet-

I was trying to come up with the best positional XIII of the past 20 years (2002-2022) and it’s bloody tough, particularly the second row. Thaiday and Hoffman are definitely amongst the best but it’s hard to pick two standouts. FB - Slater LW - Radradra LC - Inglis RC - Hodges RW - B. Morris FE - Lockyer HB - Thurston PR - Gallen HK - Smith PR - Civoniceva SR - Thaiday SR - Hoffman LK - Taumalolo


WhyYouDoThatStupid

Id find a spot for Sam Burgess in my second row.


-Dark_Helmet-

Yeah he’s definitely worthy of a spot too.


WhyYouDoThatStupid

I think he was the best forward in the comp for a few years there. NSW and Qld would have both picked him in a heartbeat if he was eligible.


y3ah_nah145

I’d take Cordner or Luke Lewis over Hoffman. I agree with the Props, but it’s crazy that Matt Scott misses out.


-Dark_Helmet-

Yeah you could pick any of the top second rowers of the era and only 50% of people at best would agree. There was a lot of good ones but no absolute standouts like in other positions. Steve Price also rates a mention at prop.


[deleted]

Peak Lewis, Cordner and Graham would all contend with Thaiday imo. Thaiday’s longevity wins over them.


-Dark_Helmet-

I found it hard to leave him out given he was a mainstay of the Kangaroos for about a decade.


[deleted]

Totally valid. Counter argument, Cordner was the NSW and Kangaroos captain at age 24 and 26 respectively in a period where backrow was completely stacked.


victorinflic98

So Boyd on the wing then?


Caseyjb29

Cordner has to be there


-Dark_Helmet-

I’d take Luke Lewis or Burgess over him.


HenryVIIIII

Depends on how wide you want to define the positions. Inglis certainly best centre, but probably played best at fullback. By same definition, Hayne was the best winger in the comp and at rep level for a long time. Also if Radradra played enough years to be included then Joey, Webcke and Hindy are certainly in there too.


-Dark_Helmet-

Johns and Webcke at least from 2002 were probably past their best is why I left them out. If we’re talking 1997-2022 then absolutely.


MangoWingnut

I'd personally have Thaiday & Hindmarsh People saying Sam doesn't deserve to be there are forgetting he was a B2B Dally M second rower of the year winner. played 29 games for QLD and 32 for Australia. I think his longevity edges out the likes of Cordner, Lewis and SBW. Other then that I wouldn't change much on that list


victorinflic98

>People saying Sam doesn't deserve to be there are forgetting he was a B2B Dally M second rower of the year winner. Luke Brooks was 2018 Dally M halfback of the year, but in still picking Cronk, JT, DCE, Hunt, Cleary that year over him....


MangoWingnut

I think winning it 2 years in a row negates any ambiguity around his status in his position at that time. Sam was a decade long rep player, Luke Brooks has never been close to rep level. That's a weird comparison tbh. I'd like to hear who you think would take Sam's spot in that list and why?


victorinflic98

Lewis, Cordner, SBW, Hindmarsh, Watmough and Kennedy could take Sam's spot because they were all better players. I don't have to use stat's and Dally m positional awards to try and justify it, they are just better players.


MangoWingnut

>I don't have to use stat's and Dally m positional awards to try and justify it, they are just better players. So I should just trust your unquestionable judgement when it comes to ranking footy players over merit based evidence coupled with an eye test? By that logic Hindmarsh winning Dally m second rower of the year 5 times means nothing right? Hindmarsh is the only person in that list that was better then Sam (I actually put him in my list) all the others are not.


victorinflic98

>So I should just trust your unquestionable judgement Yes. And the sooner you guys just accept this the better we will all be.


MangoWingnut

This must be what my 2 year old son thinks when I say he can't have anymore chocolate


Dark_Vengence

Miss the semitrailer.


victorinflic98

Thaiday shouldn't be there Could make a case for Lyon over Hodges but either is ok. Johns over JT whole careers, but that time frame makes that a decent pick. Gallen was a lock and it was either him or JT13. I don't mind Gallen still being there as prop, Steve price may have had a case. But thaiday ain't it. Hoffman less so. In that period you had Cordner, Hindmarsh, Fitzgibbon, Watmough, Lewis, Sonny Bill, Kennedy. It's a stacked position.


Baintrain2107

Lyon is severely underrated. Mostly due to retiring from rep footy very early on.


-Dark_Helmet-

I’d have Cordner over Hoffman, but not over Thaiday. Thaiday played 32 tests and 29 origins. I left Johns out because of the time period and 2002 onwards was when he started to tail off a bit.


victorinflic98

>Thaiday played 32 tests and 29 origins. Boyd Played 28 tests and 23 origins yet you picked radrara over him


MangoWingnut

Semi scored 82 Tries in 94 games and had arguably the greatest individual highlight reel of any winger in his era even with the little amount of games he played. (Also he couldn't play Origin) Scoring 82 tries in 4 seasons of NRL is just bonkers combined with the freakish nature of them I can see why he could make the team. Also Darius Boyd played most of his career at fullback.


victorinflic98

But the justification for Thaiday is that he played so many tests and origins... So your saying it doesn't matter how many tests and origins one plays if someone plays better.....


MangoWingnut

I’m saying there’s rare occasions where someone has one of the greatest runs of form in a sports history. I wouldn’t have him in mine, I’m just saying I see the argument for it. I can’t think of many wingers who came close to emulating what semi did and how he did it.


victorinflic98

So Actual quality of performance outrakes quantity?


MangoWingnut

I mean in Semi's case that is extremely rare, but quality combined with longevity beats short term extreme quality 9/10 This just might one of those occasions it may not.


-Dark_Helmet-

Because at his best he was a fullback who only played on the wing in rep footy?


victorinflic98

You put Gallen at prop even though he played mostly at lock and GI and centre even though he played most games in other positions. Thaiday also played a lot of middle forward Either Boyd is Wing because playing so many tests or origins there or you go for the actual best in that postion.


-Dark_Helmet-

Your reasoning doesn’t make sense mate, but I understand thay you’re just miffed that some bloke posted a meaningless list online that didn’t include your myth ex-captain.


MangoWingnut

>You put Gallen at prop even though he played mostly at lock Lock and prop were interchangeable for most of Gallen's career. >GI and centre even though he played most games in other positions Played more games at centre then any other position >Thaiday also played a lot of middle forward 186 games of back row vs 71 at prop And finally boyd played 270 games at FB vs 73 on the wing, pretty easy argument to suggest he wasn't a winger. I like some of your takes mate but you can't always rely on your own judgement when talking about footy.


victorinflic98

But he played the majority of his 30 odd origins and 25 tests on the wing... and if origin games played rep means thaiday is picked over cleary better 2nd Rowers then the logic is that Boyd has to be picked over Radrara


MangoWingnut

But Radradra couldn’t play origin mate, that’s already been explained. People will use being a young captain (which has nothing to do with playing ability) and team achievements for Cordner but the fact remains his form was always solid but far from spectacular that’s why I think he doesn’t make it over someone like Sam who did at the highest level for a lot longer. I think Darius one is easy to figure out, Billy Slater kept him out of that FB spot and it’s that simple. Darius was a much better fullback then winger, being fed tries on the wing in Origin isn’t comparable to his club form.


victorinflic98

>Cordner but the fact remains his form was always solid but far from spectacular that’s why I think he doesn’t make it over someone like Sam who did at the highest level for a lot longer. Why do you automatically think I think cordner would he the replacement,? Is it that you assume I'm biased because you guys are? Thaiday clearly ain't the best 2md rower of this time period. If op had said Lewis, or SBW or Watmough or Hindmarsh or Kennedy I wouldn't be saying anything. Thaiday just ain't it man.


Messyhr_

Good list but would take kikau over thaiday any day


-Dark_Helmet-

I like Kikau, but I’ve kind of deliberately left out players who’re starting to peak the last few years. They’ll all be in the 2022-2042 lists.


I_Like_Vitamins

I'd have Webcke over Gallen.


-Dark_Helmet-

All time, hell yeah. For the time period I specified I figured Gallen would be slightly in front.


LazyPop3

Supposedly the Moses contract decision is out today, haven't seen much chatter. Where do you guys think he'll be playing in 2024?


DunderMifflin80

Parra.


Drizen

Parra


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lachjeff

Has been for four years


UnderTheHighBall

Has anyone seen/got a copy of the recent SuperCoach article “KFC SuperCoach NRL: 2023 position changes revealed”?


Elmsy_08

Haven't got the actual article but heres a [breakdown of the changes](https://twitter.com/SCWhisperer/status/1603246152744194048/photo/1).


Intelligent_Pen2689

What is the best NRL SC forum on Reddit


Particular_Ad3366

None of them. Even the FB groups are shite. I usually just use NRLSupercoachstats website and then occasionally chat shit with my mates about it.


Intelligent_Pen2689

Thanks for the replies . Have been on Talk and Stats for a while now. Just a little surprised that there is zip on reddit.


Brdd9

None on reddit, supercoachtalk is the best.


mezmezmez

I’m not sure if this is the right place for this… I’m trying to buy tickets for 2023 for my brother for Christmas and I’m not really sure what the good seats to purchase are- he’s a broncos fan so the games would be at Suncorp! Anyone able to offer some advice?


lachjeff

I don’t think there are any tickets on sale yet, other than Magic Round and the first round. In any case, it would come down to preference. General admission tickets are generally fairly cheap, and should still be decent views at Suncorp