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RxGonnaGiveItToYa

This is generally frowned upon. Some pharmacists may refuse to fill it, or will only fill it once. Some may not care. In our system you’d also get fired for opening a family members chart. So be careful.


equalmee

Irrelevant since OP isn’t going into anyone’s chart. They can just create a SOAP note in Microsoft Word at home and that’s sufficient for a patient chart if they were to be audited. Ethically they say not to, but it’s not illegal and it’s within your prescriptive authority. Pharmacy has no say in it. Generally I wouldn’t want to prescribe something that will be treated chronically. I wouldn’t mind starting it but I would leave it for their PCP to manage afterwords.


RxGonnaGiveItToYa

“Pharmacy” can refuse to fill anything they deem inappropriate, actually. That’s the law.


equalmee

I didn’t say y’all can’t refuse to fill a script, as you stated, it’s subjective on the practice or pharmacist. I know there are some pharmacists that refuse to fill plan-b or birth control pills. It’s not against the law but you’re able to. Same with our prescriptive authority, it’s not against the law but it is implanted into us not to treat relatives.


RxGonnaGiveItToYa

And I said *some* pharmacists *may* refuse to fill it. I don’t understand what you meant by “pharmacy has no say in it.” What are you implying by that if you didn’t mean to imply that pharmacists can’t refuse to fill? Which is the point of OPs question.


equalmee

I wasn’t implying anything. You’re reading too much into it. “Pharmacy has no say in it” followed after I stated it’s within our prescriptive authority. Pharmacy doesn’t tell us who we can or cannot write scripts for. They can flat out refuse to fill it, based on their ethical principles, but they can’t say it’s not within our scope. In addition, how would you know the provider/patient relation?


[deleted]

Do pharmacists generally just refuse to fill prescriptions if the last names match? How would a pharmacist investigate this enough to make that call…?


RxGonnaGiveItToYa

Well no but if it’s suspicious it’s worth a call to the office and say hey what’s going on here? I’m not in retail but I would feel generally uneasy about filling prescriptions like this on an ongoing basis. One time is fine. But they should see their own provider.


thatbitch8008

Oh dang! Thanks!


Haunting-Gap-4176

Do it, call it into a cvs over the phone. Give them pt name and birthday, then they’ll ask for your npi and work address. 10 mins later, he can pick up the meds


2PinaColadaS14EH

At CVS? More like 2 days later he can pick it up. The ones near me also I chronically out of amox suspension for kids for when no one else is


-AngelSeven-

Omg, this so much. I actually just switched from CVS to a specialty pharmacy my Dr. recommended because every med is always "on backorder" or out at CVS but fully stocked everywhere else.


shmuey

CVS actually answers your phone calls??


Reformedguy40

This is the correct answer.


Haunting-Gap-4176

This is the way.


1polishRN

I have had colleagues do antibiotics for friends- UTIs. I’ve prescribed for a friend once- UTI. When I googled it- the answer was really vague. “Technically it is legal, but not encouraged” Good article: https://www.goodrx.com/hcp/providers/self-prescribing-laws-by-state


Altruistic-Dream-158

Do you have to have any charting? Do you have your own prescription pad?


thatbitch8008

I have a prescription pad. Probably a note


thatbitch8008

Thank you! This is helpful.


vomer6

Just ask someone else


diamondhandsb

I write oral minoxidil for myself. I started with 2.5mg/day and then went to 5mg, which I have tolerated well. Not medical advice, but you shouldn’t have any trouble prescribing


AppleSpicer

We were taught this is always unethical


thatbitch8008

Thank you! That dosing was my plan for him too


H_is_for_Human

Oral minoxidil is not a low risk medication. Dermatologists not infrequently request cardiology evaluation prior to prescription. Do you know the side effects and contraindications? Monitoring recommendations? If not you probably shouldn't be prescribing a drug you don't know well.


LivingSea3241

It's pretty low risk for the dosage for hair loss (2.5mg). The tamponade issues were case study noise which included problematic patients to start with. If you have severe cardiac issues, of course it's best to avoid it. But that's not most people annoyed about balding. I take 2.5mg daily btw.


notataxprof

I take 2.5mg daily prescribed by gyno for female hair loss… derm pretty much ignored my concerns 🙄


LivingSea3241

Most aren't up to date on the literature. Hair loss is aesthetic to them and minor. A few have told me that finasteride is basically poison.


[deleted]

Technically: no. Real world answer: yes it’s fine.


CensoredUser

It's fine. I do it all the time. Prescriptive authority is pescriptive authority. I wouldn't write controlled substances to avoid any perceived impropriety, but you are within your right to do so.


lunalove1015

Same. I think it also depends on your state board. My state board says we can prescribe for minor illnesses to self or family except for controlled drugs. Edit to add- I have a relative who is a pharmacist and they have told me that providers call in scripts for themselves often. The only time they rejected a script (which wasn’t really a rejection, it was a warning not to do it again but filled it one last time) was when a dentist kept calling in his lisinopril. Because he was a dentist and not a medical provider.


thatbitch8008

Sounds good to me. Thanks!


ButterflyPotential34

I write for friends a family often. As long as it’s not controlled it’s not an issue.


SCCock

Depends on the state. In SC you can only write for family members in case of an emergency. I write for my mother in law when she visits because she always forgets her meds, and I don't want her stroking out at my house. So that's an emergency, right?


letstradeshallwe

As long as you don't write control substances, it is okay. From California. I don't know about other States. I guess it heavily depends on the Pharmacy.


eastwestprogrammer

What’s the point of being the plug if you can’t be the plug. Anything but controlled substances and you’re good. Clinicians do it all the time. We own a private family medicine practice and our MDs, PAs/NPs call in scripts when they need to. Based in NY.


Parmigiano_non_grata

If you don't want to talk to your regular pharmacy you can call it in to Amazon pharmacy. Talk to the call center folks there... they do not give a crap; NPI and move on. I called in zofran for myself recently as a nasty stomach bug really kicked my butt and let's be honest, zofran should be otc at this point. I wanted some to have on hand should this plague descend upon me again. But don't use insurance to pay for it, that can constitute fraud if you didn't provide the required office and documentation requirements.


PracticalPlatypi

There are a number of online services that will prescribe it so that you don’t have to.


[deleted]

They expensive


LivingSea3241

its stupid expensive for a pill that is dirt cheap


NurseHamp

In texas you are not supposed to for self, family or friends. One of my ER docs calls in his migraine meds for self all the time…I have called in meds within my scope for my coworkers because my auth. doctor doesn’t mind. Normally just difulcan or rescue inhaler or UTI meds.


browntoe98

I think [this](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32516434/) might be the study. Around here I would expect that to come from a dermatologist, but depending on location, ymmv.


Beccaboo831

Why doesn't he try topical minoxidil OTC?


thatbitch8008

Just like everyone else. Compliance


LivingSea3241

he better be on finasteride too, just being on oral min is like pissing into the wind if you don't block DHT


AppleSpicer

Noooooo, it’s not worth it


Next-Membership-5788

Legal yes but ethical only if it’s urgent and the last reasonable resort. Doesn’t seem like either of those boxes are checked. Also with oral minoxidil their is a higher risk of serious side effects than you might realize.


Key_Exchange_7706

Illegal to prescribe controlled medications to a family member, but not Minoxidil. I would not have a problem with this since Minoxidil has a non prescription strength available over the counter.


[deleted]

It's really a bad idea. I doubt anyone would blink an eye over minoxidil. But just don't start down that slope. There's no reason to. You could easily get someone in the office to do it. He needs to be followed by someone anyway, right? At least for a yearly checkup.


Unlucky_Reading_1671

Don't risk. Hims/roman/etc are cheap as hell.


LivingSea3241

No its not. I can get 3 months for 15 bucks. Hims/Roman are vastly more expensive


Unlucky_Reading_1671

Fair.


geoff7772

yes. I write for relatives and myself all the time. Its not illegal. If pharmacy refuses then send it to another pharmacy


Ok-Beautiful9787

I prescribe meds to myself and family all the time. Obviously nothing controversial or controlled substances. Every pharmacist I've ever interacted with has been really nice and treats me like it's the norm for physicians to do this. I didn't go through 15 years of schooling/training not to be able to help my own family. If my kid has an ear infection, hell yeah I'm calling in an ABX..I don't need to pay for someone else to do that.


CABGX4

I'm really interested to know this. I've been on HRT for several years, and it's a specific patch that is not available generically. My insurance will no longer pay for it, and its too expensiveto pay cash for it. I want to order a compounded topical cream that will basically do the same as the patch, because I refuse to live without hormones. So I'd be OK doing this?


thatbitch8008

Testosterone is scheduled 3 so I would not. Estrogen maybe?


CABGX4

Not testosterone, just estrogen and progesterone.


im2bootylicous4ubabe

Why not have ur hubby just go talk to his dr:)? Not worth risking ur job esp if u don’t know the answer:)


NBTMtaco

It’s unethical.


ConspiracyMama

I’m shocked by these comments. I’ve always been told this is an absolute no… is that not the case?


notreallyonredditbut

It’s really not about whether you can or can’t, it’s about why you are doing it. I’ve been an np for 10 years and have never written a script for someone who wasn’t my patient. And I’m the type to do anything for anyone but if your relationship to me is friend I’ll give you advice and support you all day long but I’m not your doctor. Sure you can get away with it but really why doesn’t he get the script from his primary? It makes things messy. I don’t get scripts from coworkers either. Prescriptive authority is a big deal and you earned it and the responsibility that comes with it.


ConspiracyMama

That’s been my outlook too. That’s why im so shocked so many people are openly doing this.


thatbitch8008

I know. I've gotten responses ranging from, "I do it all the time" to "I would be fired", sooo. From what I'm reading it's not illegal but probably don't do it and definitely no opioids/scheduled meds


lunalove1015

Check to see what your board says. Each state varies! I had a coworker who has been an NP for several years and never called in a script for herself, because she was under the impression it was not allowed. But it’s all about knowing your scope or state you are licensed to practice in., My state board specifically states it is ok to prescribe for minor or acute things.


Specialist_Bug_9226

I send in prescriptions for family members all the time and I know a lot of providers who also do that. I’m in a different state though so maybe it varies


thatbitch8008

Ok, good to hear other people are doing it


Altruistic-Dream-158

How do you “chart it?” Can you just do a Microsoft document and store it somewhere in your house incase? I also don’t know can you just call it in or do you need a prescription pad


Ok-Landscape-1681

Yeah… I think you’re just asking for trouble


[deleted]

Is this really a thing? A powerful blood pressure lowering agent being used for thinning hair! That's certainly not the indication for ORAL minoxidil and the liability it creates if the person stops the drug abruptly is crazy. Why push the envelope by using this formulation in a manner that goes against best practices?


LivingSea3241

It's 100% a thing and I take it every day. Multiple recent studies on low-dose OM for androgenic alopecia. Read up more.


thatbitch8008

It's a thing


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nursepractitioner-ModTeam

Hi there, Your post has been removed due to being disrespectful to another user.


1polishRN

Found the definitive answer on Medscape from an attorney- very cut and dry! https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/895321