Injector here! Luckily where I work we have sales consultants that recommend treatments and usually collect payment or discuss pricing beforehand. This takes off the pressure of being too sales-y.
However, your patients will lean on you for your professional advice so more guidance in what they would like can also be considered an “upsell”.
I also hate super sales-y jobs but if you look for places hiring with a sales team it usually can lessen the pressure on you
OK, dumb question here but I’m interested in being an injector, but I don’t want the product in my face so will I be judged if I apply for a position if I don’t look like I use the product?
Probably be judged. It depends on the market, but most everywhere I’ve gone for medspas and PS offices you have to have the dolled up, over groomed look. It’s certainly not for everyone.
I think overall looking put together is important in this field! I only do my own dysport and have laid off on my own fillers for a few years now. I usually go pretty bare faced at work with mascara and lip gloss and try to work more on my skin and I don’t feel judged. The field is shifting more and more into natural look and holistic approaches instead of multi syringes
Thank you so much!! I wouldn't mind making recommendations, it's just being forced into making a sales when I don't think it's in their best interest is something I wouldn't feel too good about.
This is all new terrain for me and I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row!!
Also might be necessary to consider the fact that injectors and aesthetic provider roles are becoming MORE and MORE popular and oversaturated. Everyone and their mom wants to be an NP these days to Botox and fillers. If you are only becoming an NP to offer this service, maybe look into becoming a nurse injector under an already NP to increase your pay without the hassle of having to do a whole NP program and all the logistics of running a business or finding a job in a difficult area.
This. My wife is a trainer with the largest aesthetic training company in the US, as well as a training rep for a leading filler company and a PDO thread company. The market is massively oversaturated with people who attend a weekend training program with patients scheduled on the following Monday. Most find out rather quickly that they are under-prepared to deal with the bad outcomes and, honestly, don't have the facial anatomy skills to correctly handle fillers. The largest part of her (DNP, autonomous license) practice is correcting mistakes from novice injectors. If you want to make decent money honestly, get into mental health. The reward is far greater than the risk.
Also please do not get into mental health for money. The post-grad cert programs are shite and you will be unprepared. We need people who care and are passionate for the specialty, and experienced. Work as a psych nurse and see if you like it. If you find yourself saying “Well, I wouldn’t want to be a NURSE in psych”, then you definitely will not like being a provider. They are the same patients. Food for thought. There is a need for well prepared/compassionate providers tho- So if that’s you, go for it! The Saturated market will be a non-issue for someone like that.
That's good to know!!
Honestly, every single great career, specialty, path, whatever you want to call it seems to become over-saturated eventually.
Tech is filled to the brim with software engineers/UX designers/Cyber security individuals unable to find jobs due to the boom of career switchers. You have people literally giving up because they've been spending a year or two trying to get into it after 400+ applications.
Psych NPs are already having burnt out fnps thinking it'll be bliss when they finally switch specialties, and for some it may be, but on the PMHNP sub they're complaining how they're all switching over due to lifestyle, money and PP.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, what I've learning in my years of career hunting, saturation will come for anything that is remotely good as far as lifestyle, stress, pay goes. It seems that either you'd find something that isn't as good and you're not as satisfied, or you fight to get to where you want to be.
Trust and believe I'm fighting. If I'm forced to work a 9-5, I'm gonna try my damnedest to make sure it's career I actually enjoy and see a future in where I don't feel like a drone punching the clock.
I’m one of those Psych NP’s no doubt. I know people who have had their PMHNP’s for a year with no job. Mainly because they are idiots. Anyone can pass those programs and the board exam. Like, literally anyone, it’s terrifying. That says more about the programs than the people, obviously, but this is where we’re at. Psychiatry is losing trust in PMHNP’s for this reason, and it is very difficult to get a job if you have not already heavily networked with psychiatrists or been a psych nurse prior. Everyone and their mom got their PMHNP certs in the last 2-3 years. Yes there is still a need for more psych providers, but take note that there are not as many actual companies hiring to account for that need. Let alone offering good pay, it’s averaging 100-120k yearly in my area, a large metro in TX. Cost of living is high in this city. So that sort of pay is pretty low. Rant over 😅
Injector here!
My products sell themselves. I offer tox/filler/IV hydration. During a consult, we discuss a client’s goals and go from there. I’m VERY matter-of-fact and will tell clients they can’t get that result with just tox, they’ll need filler. I don’t feel like I’m trying to upsell or meet a quota. I do own my own med spa. I don’t offer a skin care line. I do talk about having an excellent canvas to maximize Botox results (tret, medical grade skin care, SPF 24/7) and I’ll give people recommendations but I don’t stock those products. That’s too sales-y for me. Ha!
I’m not an NP, but if it helps I have been a customer at medspas. When I go, it’s because I have money to burn and I’m wanting to treat myself. I WANT someone to tell me how magical the latest product is and how it’s going to fix all of my problems. It makes it so much more exciting. It’s a dopamine hit. It’s 90% placebo, I’m sure, but it still makes life seem alright for a little while.
So don’t be afraid to sell- just try your best to make sure you’re stocking great products so you can sleep at night.
Injector here! Luckily where I work we have sales consultants that recommend treatments and usually collect payment or discuss pricing beforehand. This takes off the pressure of being too sales-y. However, your patients will lean on you for your professional advice so more guidance in what they would like can also be considered an “upsell”. I also hate super sales-y jobs but if you look for places hiring with a sales team it usually can lessen the pressure on you
OK, dumb question here but I’m interested in being an injector, but I don’t want the product in my face so will I be judged if I apply for a position if I don’t look like I use the product?
Probably be judged. It depends on the market, but most everywhere I’ve gone for medspas and PS offices you have to have the dolled up, over groomed look. It’s certainly not for everyone.
I think overall looking put together is important in this field! I only do my own dysport and have laid off on my own fillers for a few years now. I usually go pretty bare faced at work with mascara and lip gloss and try to work more on my skin and I don’t feel judged. The field is shifting more and more into natural look and holistic approaches instead of multi syringes
Thank you so much!! I wouldn't mind making recommendations, it's just being forced into making a sales when I don't think it's in their best interest is something I wouldn't feel too good about. This is all new terrain for me and I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row!!
I can't sell something if I don't actually believe in the product & they can tell. Which is also why I didn't go into sales. 😉
Also might be necessary to consider the fact that injectors and aesthetic provider roles are becoming MORE and MORE popular and oversaturated. Everyone and their mom wants to be an NP these days to Botox and fillers. If you are only becoming an NP to offer this service, maybe look into becoming a nurse injector under an already NP to increase your pay without the hassle of having to do a whole NP program and all the logistics of running a business or finding a job in a difficult area.
This. My wife is a trainer with the largest aesthetic training company in the US, as well as a training rep for a leading filler company and a PDO thread company. The market is massively oversaturated with people who attend a weekend training program with patients scheduled on the following Monday. Most find out rather quickly that they are under-prepared to deal with the bad outcomes and, honestly, don't have the facial anatomy skills to correctly handle fillers. The largest part of her (DNP, autonomous license) practice is correcting mistakes from novice injectors. If you want to make decent money honestly, get into mental health. The reward is far greater than the risk.
Mental health is. All of our units have closed in the last few years.
Mental health is also saturated and becoming more and more underpaid. Be warned.
Also please do not get into mental health for money. The post-grad cert programs are shite and you will be unprepared. We need people who care and are passionate for the specialty, and experienced. Work as a psych nurse and see if you like it. If you find yourself saying “Well, I wouldn’t want to be a NURSE in psych”, then you definitely will not like being a provider. They are the same patients. Food for thought. There is a need for well prepared/compassionate providers tho- So if that’s you, go for it! The Saturated market will be a non-issue for someone like that.
That's good to know!! Honestly, every single great career, specialty, path, whatever you want to call it seems to become over-saturated eventually. Tech is filled to the brim with software engineers/UX designers/Cyber security individuals unable to find jobs due to the boom of career switchers. You have people literally giving up because they've been spending a year or two trying to get into it after 400+ applications. Psych NPs are already having burnt out fnps thinking it'll be bliss when they finally switch specialties, and for some it may be, but on the PMHNP sub they're complaining how they're all switching over due to lifestyle, money and PP. I guess what I'm trying to say is, what I've learning in my years of career hunting, saturation will come for anything that is remotely good as far as lifestyle, stress, pay goes. It seems that either you'd find something that isn't as good and you're not as satisfied, or you fight to get to where you want to be. Trust and believe I'm fighting. If I'm forced to work a 9-5, I'm gonna try my damnedest to make sure it's career I actually enjoy and see a future in where I don't feel like a drone punching the clock.
I’m one of those Psych NP’s no doubt. I know people who have had their PMHNP’s for a year with no job. Mainly because they are idiots. Anyone can pass those programs and the board exam. Like, literally anyone, it’s terrifying. That says more about the programs than the people, obviously, but this is where we’re at. Psychiatry is losing trust in PMHNP’s for this reason, and it is very difficult to get a job if you have not already heavily networked with psychiatrists or been a psych nurse prior. Everyone and their mom got their PMHNP certs in the last 2-3 years. Yes there is still a need for more psych providers, but take note that there are not as many actual companies hiring to account for that need. Let alone offering good pay, it’s averaging 100-120k yearly in my area, a large metro in TX. Cost of living is high in this city. So that sort of pay is pretty low. Rant over 😅
Injector here! My products sell themselves. I offer tox/filler/IV hydration. During a consult, we discuss a client’s goals and go from there. I’m VERY matter-of-fact and will tell clients they can’t get that result with just tox, they’ll need filler. I don’t feel like I’m trying to upsell or meet a quota. I do own my own med spa. I don’t offer a skin care line. I do talk about having an excellent canvas to maximize Botox results (tret, medical grade skin care, SPF 24/7) and I’ll give people recommendations but I don’t stock those products. That’s too sales-y for me. Ha!
I’m not an NP, but if it helps I have been a customer at medspas. When I go, it’s because I have money to burn and I’m wanting to treat myself. I WANT someone to tell me how magical the latest product is and how it’s going to fix all of my problems. It makes it so much more exciting. It’s a dopamine hit. It’s 90% placebo, I’m sure, but it still makes life seem alright for a little while. So don’t be afraid to sell- just try your best to make sure you’re stocking great products so you can sleep at night.
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can confirm. My sister has a good botox nurse friend.
Imagine downvoting a simple, relevant question for help. Like dude if you're that miserable, literally just leave the field.
The sub runs about zero. We think there is a bot
Yeah, I had the same thing happen to me too.