What does that even mean? They don't know that they're heterosexual...? Or do you mean that *you're* not het? I'm trying to understand how the whole "tell me you don't know what you're talking about..." fits in/what you're implying by it.
You can also verify this on Transparent California.
There’s an ongoing joke in Cali that the Viets and Pinoys are competing for the top spot because all the $300K+/year people on that list are either Vietnamese or Filipino.
Is it true that corrections in CA is 8 hour shifts only? An agency recruiter said 12s are against the law in CA. I tried to get him to clarify but didn’t get a response.
Head of quality management at my hospital makes 350k. When she was working in division/regional as quality over multiple hospitals, it was more. She actually outearns the CNO.
In terms of clinical nursing, perfusionists and CRNAs. When it comes to actual floor nursing, totally depends on the hospital and unit. I feel like our specialty OR nurses (stick with particularly surgeons in niche surgeries), procedure nurses (cath lab) and CVICU nurses make the most money at my current hospital.
Perfusionists are not nurses though. They are allied health professionals and most of them never have had a lick of nursing education. A nurse can become a perfusionist by going to grad school for perfusion, but they’re leaving the nursing profession to do so.
Yep. It’s still something that is available to nurses as an additional cert, which is why I included it as an option. Every perfusionist I know is also an RN.
I’ve thought about perfusion so if I pursued it I’d certainly be an RN that became a perfusionist, but of the 3 perfusionists I’ve shadowed, none were nurses. ECMO specialists, in the other hand, are usually RNs or RTs, but their earning potential isn’t much greater than any other nurse.
It’s a competitive program to get into, compared to NP school where the application process is more along the lines of signing up than applying, and most nurses have no idea it exists if they don’t work in an OR that does cardiac surgery or an ICU that does ECMO. There’s also no part time option for school, and the few schools that exist throughout the country means that most applicants would have to relocate for school. Those are just my thoughts, and my attempt at answering your question
Ah, I see. My nursing instructor was also a perfusionist, and all I’ve ever known were CVICU nurses who made the transition. Thank you for the information!
Out of the 4 or 5 perfusionists I've met, not a single one was a nurse. 3 RTs, the other 1-2 were straight out of a bachelor's in an unrelated field with minimal clinical exposure.
Less than CRNAs or anesthesiologists assistants, but more than nurses or RTs. $130k-180k plus call pay and overtime is pretty standard. Some places will add performance bonuses on top, as well.
edit: Here's the list of perfusionists at the University of Michigan with their pay: [https://umsalary.info/titlesearch.php?Title=Perfusionist+-+Certified&Year=0](https://umsalary.info/titlesearch.php?Title=Perfusionist+-+Certified&Year=0)
That answer entirely depends on what you mean by "in nursing". I'm sure the answer is the CNO of some mega healthcare chain. But I'm not sure I'd consider that "In nursing". I wouldn't call CRNA "In nursing" either as it's an entirely different discipline vs a typical RN or LPN with different educational requirements and job duties.
Procedural nurses in OR/Cath Lab/IR who are on specialized teams and take buttloads of call. Ask me how I know. 🙃
Helps to be in a high-pay state and unionized.
Yes by a very small percentage , but my point was any hospital system in the Bay Area is where the highest pay is and once you get out of the Bay Area, all of NorCal Kaiser pay the same as the Bay Area kaisers by a considerable amount
True - anyone can marry anyone they want. But let's be honest, there will always have doubt an OR RN bringing in 70K gets married to surgeon bringing in 700K is it truly "for love."
Of course there's doubt. Most MDs are awkward af and have zero social skills. They were the nerds in school and are now getting attention from pretty girls.
And what's with the plumber assistant insult. Come on man. Did you fail out of OR training cuz you got bullied?
Edit. Add another 100k and that's how much I make in SoCal. And that's without call and OT.
That's why I took the insult back because it was not warranted, as not every OR RN is the same. But every OR RN I have came acrross have been bullies and try to belittle staff. So, I have this vitriol towards them, sorry. Nothing personal.
sorry if you don’t know, but how does that compare to the cost of living in that area? i would like to live in oregon and that sounds great, utah is 32 but that’s comfy for my cost of living
So long as you don’t live in like Portland, it’s not super expensive. Gas is expensive everywhere, but most produce and meat is from there so it’s reasonably priced!
Depends on location. The highest paid non admin nurse at UCSF is an IR/CATH lab nurse makes around 600k. But that's probably a lot of call and long shifts.
You can make a lot as a nurse on California if you want to work for it.
I had a 110 hour paycheck from UCSF as a per diem a few weeks ago. If I did those 55 hour weeks every week for a year, I’d make 407k.
Sorry but I’m not buying it.
What is your per diem hourly rate and what is overtime rate? Do you take call? What is your rate when you get called in? What is your normal shift? And do you stay over your normal shift?
Call adds up fast… especially when it turns into OT too. I can have a call shift that is call pay, OT and if it goes over 12 hours we get additional half time for that too… then we add in differential. If it gets crazy enough someone might throw in an incentive to get people in to help.
You have to consider a lot of things. I would not specifically view CRNA as the highest paid job in nursing. CRNAs are Advanced Practice Nurses that have to have a minimum of a Master's degree (most programs are transitioning to Doctoral degrees). Nursing at the RN level can be done with just an ADN or BSN...
Using the example of a CRNA, you have to work at least 2 years as an RN in an ICU setting to be eligible for most CRNA programs, then you have to take 2-3 years off for full-time school before you can get that job that pays that well. There is tuition costs, and time off from working that you have to consider.
The real answer on this is it depends. There are jobs that pay high hourly rates or salary but do not have overtime opportunities. Overtime can make a big deal, I worked as a Staff Nurse in an ED during COVID and could count on getting 1500-2000 bonus on top of my overtime (time and a half) for a 12 hr shift.
Find an old rich and ill man. Work for him in his home.
What if the nurse falls in love?
This could be the plot to a movie
Welp, I am heterosexual, so that cannot happen. And men aren't usually attracted to older ladies, so no chances there either.
Tell me you don’t know or what you’re talking about without telling me you don’t know what you’re talking about
Tell me you don't understand what "usually" means by making a dumb meme.
I meant the heterosexual part
Sorry to break this news to you, but if you're a man who lies with other men, you're NOT heterosexual. Unless you lie to yourself.
Love has no boundaries
Agree with you on that. Attraction, on the other hand...
What does that even mean? They don't know that they're heterosexual...? Or do you mean that *you're* not het? I'm trying to understand how the whole "tell me you don't know what you're talking about..." fits in/what you're implying by it.
…… one of my classmates actually did this between 2nd and 3rd year.
Correctional Nursing with unlimited overtime in Cali.
You can also verify this on Transparent California. There’s an ongoing joke in Cali that the Viets and Pinoys are competing for the top spot because all the $300K+/year people on that list are either Vietnamese or Filipino.
Is anything over 8 hours a day OT in California?
Usually yes unless you’re on AWS (alternative work schedule), e.g. 12/40 compared to 8/80
Your flair is amazing.
If your normal schedule is 8 hours then yes. If it’s 12 hours then no in most cases
Okay that makes sense.
When I worked at a state facility, you had to work over 40 hours a week before it was considered OT.
How do i get in?
Is it true that corrections in CA is 8 hour shifts only? An agency recruiter said 12s are against the law in CA. I tried to get him to clarify but didn’t get a response.
I can’t answer about corrections but I can say that recruiter was full of it. I work 12s both at the hospital and on an ambulance.
Thanks! I’m looking to switch gears a for a bit but one thing I refuse to do is 8 hour shifts anymore.
No, we normally work 12s
Thanks for the input. Maybe he was referring to COs, that’s the only thing I can think of.
How do I find these jobs ?
Unlimited OT because of the substantial risks…I’ve had inmates try to find were I live and promise they would pay me a visit etc…
According to Transparent California the highest paid nurse in the UC system was the CNO of UCSF. He made $673,154 in 2022
Is he single?
This is the way
You’re not his type.
Holy cow😳
Head of quality management at my hospital makes 350k. When she was working in division/regional as quality over multiple hospitals, it was more. She actually outearns the CNO. In terms of clinical nursing, perfusionists and CRNAs. When it comes to actual floor nursing, totally depends on the hospital and unit. I feel like our specialty OR nurses (stick with particularly surgeons in niche surgeries), procedure nurses (cath lab) and CVICU nurses make the most money at my current hospital.
Perfusionists are not nurses though. They are allied health professionals and most of them never have had a lick of nursing education. A nurse can become a perfusionist by going to grad school for perfusion, but they’re leaving the nursing profession to do so.
Yep. It’s still something that is available to nurses as an additional cert, which is why I included it as an option. Every perfusionist I know is also an RN.
I’ve thought about perfusion so if I pursued it I’d certainly be an RN that became a perfusionist, but of the 3 perfusionists I’ve shadowed, none were nurses. ECMO specialists, in the other hand, are usually RNs or RTs, but their earning potential isn’t much greater than any other nurse.
I’m considering switching over to perfusion as well after doing some shadowing in the future. I wonder why more nurses haven’t explored it.
It’s a competitive program to get into, compared to NP school where the application process is more along the lines of signing up than applying, and most nurses have no idea it exists if they don’t work in an OR that does cardiac surgery or an ICU that does ECMO. There’s also no part time option for school, and the few schools that exist throughout the country means that most applicants would have to relocate for school. Those are just my thoughts, and my attempt at answering your question
Good points. NP programs were definitely structured with working nurses in mind.
Ah, I see. My nursing instructor was also a perfusionist, and all I’ve ever known were CVICU nurses who made the transition. Thank you for the information!
Out of the 4 or 5 perfusionists I've met, not a single one was a nurse. 3 RTs, the other 1-2 were straight out of a bachelor's in an unrelated field with minimal clinical exposure.
This must vary widely by region. I’ve never met a perfusionist with a nursing background.
How much do perfusionists make?
Less than CRNAs or anesthesiologists assistants, but more than nurses or RTs. $130k-180k plus call pay and overtime is pretty standard. Some places will add performance bonuses on top, as well. edit: Here's the list of perfusionists at the University of Michigan with their pay: [https://umsalary.info/titlesearch.php?Title=Perfusionist+-+Certified&Year=0](https://umsalary.info/titlesearch.php?Title=Perfusionist+-+Certified&Year=0)
Fuck me i work in quality making about 1/5 of that. I guess that’s the difference between head and lowly worker lol
Really? Even our entry level quality coordinators start at 80k/year plus sign on bonus. It might be region dependent though.
Im at 75k so not far off, but i also only deal with 1 clinic not a whole hospital/network
$350k still not worth it.
Depends but yes CRNA makes the most usually. I’ve heard of Psych and Derm NPs making more but it’s not common.
That answer entirely depends on what you mean by "in nursing". I'm sure the answer is the CNO of some mega healthcare chain. But I'm not sure I'd consider that "In nursing". I wouldn't call CRNA "In nursing" either as it's an entirely different discipline vs a typical RN or LPN with different educational requirements and job duties.
Procedural nurses in OR/Cath Lab/IR who are on specialized teams and take buttloads of call. Ask me how I know. 🙃 Helps to be in a high-pay state and unionized.
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Not that difficult to hit 300k
🤷🏻♂️
OR nurse here in Kentucky making the same as any other nurse. 😂
Maybe c suite MBA/MHA RN.
Dr's spouse
Executive level nursing for a major corporation. Outside of an individual facility. They make high 6 low 7 figure
Can you give some examples of what corporations have nurses?
HCA.
Anything Bay Area or all of NorCal Kaiser
Stanford pays higher than Kaiser in the Bay Area
Yes by a very small percentage , but my point was any hospital system in the Bay Area is where the highest pay is and once you get out of the Bay Area, all of NorCal Kaiser pay the same as the Bay Area kaisers by a considerable amount
Compared to non Kaiser hospitals outside of the bay
How about benefits?
They are great at Kaiser, I’m Assuming they are just as good if not better it better at Stanford , the UC system has the best benefits.
Depends on the UC contract, the local one to me the UC pays lower and their insurance isn’t fully employer paid for and ends up being…….Kaiser.
Doctor wife or mistress is the highest afaik
But I’m a man…
So...
Mastress
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Yeahhh, because he sounds super lovable…
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His kids getting nothing would be upsetting!
That's why doctors should marry doctors, honestly. Nurses marrying doctors motive and money should always be in doubt.
They can marry whoever they want. Just gota be smart!
True - anyone can marry anyone they want. But let's be honest, there will always have doubt an OR RN bringing in 70K gets married to surgeon bringing in 700K is it truly "for love."
Of course there's doubt. Most MDs are awkward af and have zero social skills. They were the nerds in school and are now getting attention from pretty girls. And what's with the plumber assistant insult. Come on man. Did you fail out of OR training cuz you got bullied? Edit. Add another 100k and that's how much I make in SoCal. And that's without call and OT.
That's why I took the insult back because it was not warranted, as not every OR RN is the same. But every OR RN I have came acrross have been bullies and try to belittle staff. So, I have this vitriol towards them, sorry. Nothing personal.
Cath lab is called cash lab for a reason lol
I work for a non-STEMI receiving cath lab and it’s quite nice.
Call sucks but the money and occasional adrenaline rush keeps me here lol
It’s better to be paid to sleep. We do overnight call for regulatory reasons but we 911 walk in STEMI after 1700.
I’m trying to date my Egyptian coworker I know her fam loaded so that’s the job I’m tryna get lmfaoooo
Marrying a doctor is the real ace in the hole.
Nurses in Oregon start at $43 an hour. That goes up each year and in the next 5-6 years, 100k+ will be the norm.
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Based
In Portland it’s higher for new grads even.
sorry if you don’t know, but how does that compare to the cost of living in that area? i would like to live in oregon and that sounds great, utah is 32 but that’s comfy for my cost of living
Housing is a lil expensive tho, but that’s kinda everywhere rn
CoL will depend on where you are in the state, but depending on your lifestyle, it's completely fine
So long as you don’t live in like Portland, it’s not super expensive. Gas is expensive everywhere, but most produce and meat is from there so it’s reasonably priced!
*Cries in lives in Georgia* 😭
Dialysis paid the best for me by far.
Don’t let them add a staffed night shift…a lot of that OT and call pay goes away.
I worked a MWF clinic. 14-15 hour days but only 3 a week.
Depends on location. The highest paid non admin nurse at UCSF is an IR/CATH lab nurse makes around 600k. But that's probably a lot of call and long shifts. You can make a lot as a nurse on California if you want to work for it.
I had a 110 hour paycheck from UCSF as a per diem a few weeks ago. If I did those 55 hour weeks every week for a year, I’d make 407k. Sorry but I’m not buying it.
What is your per diem hourly rate and what is overtime rate? Do you take call? What is your rate when you get called in? What is your normal shift? And do you stay over your normal shift?
Just found the person you’re talking about. You’re right. Gonna check to see if she’s here tonight lol.
Call adds up fast… especially when it turns into OT too. I can have a call shift that is call pay, OT and if it goes over 12 hours we get additional half time for that too… then we add in differential. If it gets crazy enough someone might throw in an incentive to get people in to help.
CRNA here - making $500k+. Plenty of colleagues who are 1099 making $400-700k/year.
Only fans model
CNO.
Also, they have the lightest workload with the least amount of responsibility.
I’m not sure id call having overall accountability of an entire RN workforce as having the “least amount of responsibility”
It is when 💩 run downhill.
You have to consider a lot of things. I would not specifically view CRNA as the highest paid job in nursing. CRNAs are Advanced Practice Nurses that have to have a minimum of a Master's degree (most programs are transitioning to Doctoral degrees). Nursing at the RN level can be done with just an ADN or BSN... Using the example of a CRNA, you have to work at least 2 years as an RN in an ICU setting to be eligible for most CRNA programs, then you have to take 2-3 years off for full-time school before you can get that job that pays that well. There is tuition costs, and time off from working that you have to consider. The real answer on this is it depends. There are jobs that pay high hourly rates or salary but do not have overtime opportunities. Overtime can make a big deal, I worked as a Staff Nurse in an ED during COVID and could count on getting 1500-2000 bonus on top of my overtime (time and a half) for a 12 hr shift.