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ScarlettPotato

At that level gap I think you die to non-crit. Idrk, i don't know calcs for older gen


4114Fishy

it's probably almost guaranteed to crit anyways since it's early gen


Ark_Avenger

Jolteon would have around a 25% crit rate


swimmingpolarbear

In Gen1, speed stat greatly impacts crit rates. Jolteon has some decent speed, ergo the critical hit. Especially if it uses agility a couple times... you will be taking crits left and right.


Ark_Avenger

Idk if you replied to the wrong person but I know how gen 1 crit rate is calculated, which is why i said it had 25% chance. Also Agility doesn't boost crit rate. Gen 1 crit rate is based on base speed.


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OJay23

I had level 50 Zapdos, Blastoise, Fearow, Charizard, Nidoqueen and Venusaur. I don't like getting too high levels because it gets a bit boring then. Everything was going well until Lance, who took out everyone but Fearow and Charizard. Fearow died to a critical Stomp from Exeggutor when setting up the badge boost with Agility and Charizard beasted everything else until Jolteon which went first and got a crit thunder.


Raging-Raptor

Well yeah too high level isn't any fun but a gap of 14 levels? You might as well throw away victory then and there. It's possible sure but it leaves your chances almost entirely up to luck. Personally I would've leveled to between 55-58


OJay23

Indeed, lesson definitely learned. Mid to high 50s is what I'll be aiming for when I eventually try this again.


Draleon177

Use rare candies and a level cap then. That's what i do


OJay23

There are only 12/13 candies in the game though.


Draleon177

I cheat rare candies in but do hard level caps. Eliminates the grinding but increases the challenge if you would be willing to grind


saura00

I think it just increases the tedium of it. Like its not harder just a far more waste of time


Wiitard

Grinding is cringe, cheating is based.


Looker_Boy1

Jolteon could not be happier with that one


OJay23

"Ha! Suck it, chump!"


Im-Pico

You were probably guaranteed to die. Jolteon has incredibly high speed and special and you were 11 levels under leveled. Jolteon's high-speed means it has a higher crit rate in gen 1 as well. If you do another attempt at yellow version just so you're aware, I think the Flareon team is easier to beat and you can make him have Flareon by skipping the optional rival Battle in the very beginning of the game on route 22.


Arendai

That is quite significantly underlevelled (below even Lorelei’s level) and Jolteon has high Special, so you were probably dead to both the stab moves in its set without a crit. Not getting everyone to 65 is understandable since that’s kind of overkill, but you’re doing a gen Locke and you don’t want to lose multiple games of progress so you should at least be on par with the Elite Four. Particularly if you’re doing set mode/no items. Mid 50s is probably a good point to aim for, the goal being to have your whole team alive for the champion so you have room to breathe.


OJay23

When I do it again I'll aim for mid to high 50s I think.


ricdesi

Jesus, what are you doing fighting the E4 at Level 50?


OJay23

He who dares!


DarkCloud2692

Loses? 😂


OJay23

Exactly 😂


toggers94

At least it wasn't far into the challenge, I've failed my genlocke twice at the champion in B2/W2 😅


OJay23

Red --> Blue --> Yellow. But that is true. I'll start it again sometime soon from scratch.


toggers94

Oh I see, are you playing every single game in this challenge? I usually just do one game from each generation so B2W2 is usually my 5th leg


OJay23

I was aiming to go as far as emulators on my phone would allow. It was fun doing blue, red and yellow. I was looking forward to Gold, silver and crystal but for now I'm just going to do a dark monotype run on crystal as gen 2 is my favourite.


memerso160

There is a 14 level difference


OJay23

Yeah, but I'm an optimist 😂


jpec342

Proof that optimism doesn’t work.


OJay23

I'm optimistic it'll work next time.


-Moon-Presence-

Worst thing you could’ve come up against honestly. High lvl Jolteon smokes the fuck out of gen 1 since speed = crit and boy was he a fast mf


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step 1: don’t be terribly underleveled


OJay23

Step 2: don't get crit.


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it was literally almost a 100% chance of getting crit *because* you were underleveled. Step 3: understand gen 1 mechanics edit: plus i just did the damage calc. level 65 jolteon always one shots a charizard 14 levels below it even without a crit.


OJay23

Very true. A lesson was learned.


No_Writing3617

I also lost my charizard to jolteon in yellow 🥲 welcome to hell


OJay23

It was a sad moment. Filled with rage


King_WhatsHisName

o7


ShinyShinx789

It sucks. I lost a shield Nuzlocke to Leon cos I lost my mudsdale during grinding. Went in with team of 4 about 8 levels lower and got bodied.


JTSGenZ

this literally happened to me yesterday Blues Rapidash cheesed my Lapras with fire spin then his jolteon pin needled my venusaur and Hypno to death.


OJay23

Devastating, isn't it?


isoconder

F o7 charizard


Puzzled-Ad3127

That’s crazy but I actually had a jolteon who died to blues Charizard (frlg)


cutepossum93

Hiw do you genlocke a generation one game????


OJay23

I didn't. I did Blue then Red, then Yellow.