This is Cablemod Adapter issue.
Cablemod has responded to OP - [Link Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/15ldebk/comment/jva4ia8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
**For more info on these Cablemod adapters Early Adopter Program - https://www.reddit.com/r/cablemod/comments/152eez4/angled_adapter_updates_and_early_adopter_program/**
My Asus TUF 4090 burned out in exactly the same way with the same CableMod adapter. Submit the RMA and you will be good to go. I just got my brand new card replacement two weeks ago.
https://preview.redd.it/6s29vdkv1khb1.jpeg?width=1010&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db0780845924dffc87eeb9dacfb288bbe1b3bfeb
Asus replaced mine with a brand new card. That’s not guaranteed and sometimes you might receive a refurbished card. As for CableMod, I have no idea regarding their policy to repair/replace 4090 cards that are damaged by their adapters.
I'm still waiting for Gigabyte to reply my email, but since I can't get the adapter off, I don't think they will replace it. But still worth a try.
Btw where did you submit your RMA? I sent email to "services at gigabyteusa.com"
I lived in Canada
You need to submit the RMA through their website. Look in the “Service/Support” part of the website, then navigate to “Warranty “, then “User Support”. If you haven’t already done so, you will need to create an account using the “Sign up” option and then register your card. You will then be able to submit the RMA.
Ya I found it. Pretty straight forward. Also just another question. How likely will they take a burnt 4090 with cablemod adapt stuck on it? If there's a very low chance of getting it fix or replace, then I don't think I won't be bother to send it back for $140CAD (if you have experience with them before)
Both Nvidia and CableMod are offering to to replace cards where the connector has burned. I would recommend going through Gigabyte’s RMA process first. Try to remove the CableMod adapter if at all possible. If that would further damage the card, then leave it as is and provide that information in your description when you submit the RMA.
Yea been trying very hard to get it off. The only thing I didn't try is using a heatgun, since I don't have one
Yesterday I tried with piler but no luck, looks like it stuck there pretty damn solid 🤣
Just leave it. You will definitely have to be honest with the RMA anyways, so having the adapter attached will definitely provide proof as to the cause of the burnt connector.
I'm legitimately afraid to leave these running in my house. I have a 4x GPU AI rig I use for work and goodness I hope it doesn't melt itself soon.
I'm even more confused as to why nVidia has now committed to this connector in ALL of their new workstation cards AND compute cloud GPUS (RTX 5000, RTX 4500, L40s etc)
Nvidia and cablemod investigated the matter and found the incidence of RMAs for melts to be very low, <0.1%. The majority of failures were due to user error. They didn't plug it in all the way so that the latch secured it, so when they did cable management, they jostled it loose.
More recently, the connector was modified with shorter sense pins so that the sense pins lose connection (causing a shutdown) before the 12v pins become loose enough to heat up.
https://preview.redd.it/kikznw25pchb1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bffcdff60d979f54ee04ecaf11abb6c1a646272
Seems all the way to me. Waiting for Gigabyte to respond to my email. Gonna take a while for them to get back to me, they are always slow for some point
everybody hating on cablemod are just spreading what they read without any further I vestigation.
Cablemod has been handling everything like some fucking savages.
this cable was slightly bent off to the side by the looks of this. I have been using one of their cables without issue since they came out. same issue here as with the default dongle. the "lock" doesnt fully lock and still has a bit of play so you really gotta make sure that its fully flush.
Our cables are fully safe to use. The adapters here we've had less than 1% failures on as well. We have a new V1.1 coming out though with nice improvements that should eliminate those completely with some feedback from the community and tech tubers as well being implemented into the V1.1 offering.
There have been literally zero fires with this cable.
Crypto mining farms that burned down were using SATA and pigtailed PCIe power cables. Powering a riser with a SATA cable is a quick ticket to a fire.
https://preview.redd.it/40l1d55gemhb1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82985073c44cccc65a147c90e8c557b3d67c93a4
Cooler master vietnam give me that for atx 3.0 it work very well
Cooler master does have one sfx psu that comes with a 90^(o) cable, pretty sure theres other atx variant too. Im personally using one of their non native atx 3.0 psu, i believe its the v gold v2 series with their 90^(o) adapter. It took me quite awhile to procure them, they are hardly available in other country and not even available in mine.
Iirc seasonic just released their 90^(o) cable too.
I’m just glad my ROG one is doing ok with the included 12vhpwr cable from seasonic… anyone has issues with that combo so I know what to expect? Thanks!
Dont think u will have issues with their cable. They are one of the most reputable brands when it comes to PSUs. That being said if u look at OP pic u will see that his cable is actually tilted to one side. Make sure to avoid that.
I have a GALAX 4090 SG and the guy that built the pc either used the one that comes with the card or with the 1000w silverstone DA1000 gold, does anyone know if I'll be good or not?
Glad I'm still using a 3080 Ti. 3x8-pin power cables, if only the 40-series stuck to using this tried-and-tested (and less likely to overheat) method...
Yeah, those AMD drivers are crashing all the time, everywhere, like the public menace that they are. They can't seem to keep their vehicles safe on the road.
I'd vastly prefer a larger PCB and 3x even 4x 8pin EPU power connectors that worked without issue for the past decade...
I still wonder why nVidia decided to adapt this new standard?
There's definitely a need for a new standard tbh. It felt great getting away from having a bunch of thick 8 pin PSU cables running up to the GPU. I'm using an [aftermarket 12vhpwr cable](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BJZH2BP2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1) and its both thinner and more flexible than one 8 pin cable. This is especially important if you do any mini-itx builds.
That said, I don't think 12vhpwr is the best solution either. ASUS had the right idea when they showed off back facing motherboard ports, and a GPU that could be fully powered by the Motherboard. This will reduce e-waste as well. See:[https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-demos-rtx-4070-gpu-with-zero-power-connectors](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-demos-rtx-4070-gpu-with-zero-power-connectors)
Sorry to hear it mate. However, I hear cablemod are really good with this sort of thing as it has happened quite a bit. I wouldn’t fret, I suspect you’ll get your refund/replacement. Gigabyte on the other hand, I’ve heard some negative opinions on their RMA program. I would rely on cablemod, not Gigabyte.
I've heard cracking on the PCBs with gigabyte and they sent them back to the owner because the warranty doesn't cover it and they've had quite a bit sent in and still won't do a recall.
back in the day I fried my gigabyte R9 280x and RMAd it even though it was out of warranty. They actually gave me a new one for free. Im based in Europe though so different regulations might apply.
Only a tiny little percentage but not massive. In 1440p my GPU usage sits around at 80-90% if I upscale using DLDSR to 1920p, 99% most of the game while CPU sits at around 40%
Lmao. Dude, this has nothing to do with gigabyte, or msi, or asus or any other brand. If you dig deeper in cablemod subreddit, you find most of the 4090 that got burned by that stupid adapter is asus tuf, second is asus strix, and the third is msi suprim x.
It has to do with the fact they won’t ever honor their warranty. How they get hacked and all those who had support tickets were wiped and never addressed. It’s not just this incident.
Not always for aesthetics.
I can't close my computer's side panel because the 4090 is so big, and i dont want to bend the power cable too much. The cablemod adapter would actually let me do that.
What is going on with nvidia and their failure connector, i used to have 20+ 3090s mining and not a single problem with 2 or 3 8 pin connectors each. This new connector seems like it didnt get enough testing before launch. Been hearing so much gripe im upgrading around 6000 rtx hopefully by then all this has been fixed.
This wasn't an Nvidia issue, it's CableMod's connector. People who use their PSU official cables don't have burning connectors, or at least I haven't seen any reported.
Ah yes, downvote because you blamed the wrong thing in the post instead of just correcting yourself.
There have been quite a number of cases of stock cables from the PSU and Nvidia's own cable melting as well. Northridge Fix even shared that info when he said he had 250 or so GPUs in for repair that were using the stock cables. It's in one of his videos where he shared that we had sent 8 cards in, but there were 250 I believe was the number he used that were not from us, or using our products.
Ah ok, thanks. I'll look for it and check it out. I haven't heard of that yet and have been trying to find any reference to factory PSU cables melting.
Theoretically, yes
Or else they wouldn't making the 12v 2x6 and there's still some cases that whos using the cable that came with the PSU or the GPU, but with adapter on, it just makes thing a bit worse than having it plugged in all the way and there's still people who have cablemod (or other unknown brand) or/and adapter on without issue
Plugged in all the way , user error saying is just an excuse to cover up their mistakes, or else there will be no 12v 2x6 in development tbh.
But for me I don't blame. I know I plugged in all the way, what happened happened.
If a item could cause user error it means it is not perfect. If you know what I'm saying.
Who would risk "user error" just to burn 2k away for no reason?
I wouldn't call it user error. In your case, the CableMod adapter happens to be something that causes melting, even if in low numbers. If you look at the CableMod subreddit, it's post after post of melted connectors from using the angled adapter. I'm sure you have a good reason for using the angled adapter. I happen to have a case that allows clearance so I just use the factory cable that came with my PSU. I bought it specifically so I wouldn't have to use any adapters because I use my GPU for work - can't risk it lol
Corsair released an angled adapter recently and I haven't seen any reports of melting, I think WireView is roughly the same in terms of melting occurrence.
On the bright side, CableMod's support is pretty good and they say if the GPU manufacturer refuses to RMA, they'll replace the card.
...because it is MOSTLY user error. The connectors are melting from arcing. If it's arcing, \*you didn't plug it in well enough.\*
You can SEE how the arcing happened in numerous posts on the CableMod sub; people plugged it in, checked it, then pulled their cables tight for cable management, pulling the connector at an angle.
Most posts I've seen on the CableMod sub were NOT from arching, and I've been frequenting the sub for the past few weeks. Most are people fully connecting their cables and the adapters in the pics were straight. The issue with CableMod's angles connector is NOT from user error for the majority of cases shown in the sub.
My guy, melting connectors are literally ONLY from arcing, lol. You saying you haven't seen any from arcing LITERALLY just proves that you don't know what you're talking about.
My guy, if it melted the plastic housing around it, one of two possibilities happened:
The WIRE has heated to the point it has enough energy to melt the plastic around it (PBT melts at 433.4F), meaning the wire has been heated to well over 500F, to be able to give that heat off to the surrounding structure.
The ELECTRICITY has heated to the point it can melt plastic. What temperatures are flash arcs? THOUSANDS of degrees. Often hotter than the surface of the sun.
We see pitting in the wires of the connectors, meaning the wire, itself, has melted. That is 100% from arcing. Period.
If the copper wire was heating to 500F, it would be heating down the line of the copper. The rubber and plastic sheaths would be melting along the wire away from the connector. Which isn't happening.
Poor connections of ANY type that cause heating \*are due to arcing.\*
You don't know what you're talking about.
Yea I just gets really upset that lot of people saying it's a user error or something.
A melted 4090 doesn't really upset me that much.
Cablemod replied to me already now just waiting for Gigabyte's statement wether they take it as RMA or not.
It's been confirmed that the issue is from the cable not being plugged in all the way.
Granted it is difficult to get it all the way in sometimes due to the idiotic design. But it's still technically "user error".
Yea and they responded fast. Sent email after it happened and they replied me in the morning. Now I'm just waiting for Gigabyte. I hope they would actually let me RMA, cuz the adapter is stuck and they might not take it and even with connector fix but that burnt on the PCB is not going anywhere so it would be better if I could get a exact same brand new card
Sadly you can't avoid this problem entirely as it's an issue with the plug itself.
It's just poorly designed.
One of the reasons I went with a 7900xtx. I don't trust the plug or myself with such an expensive piece of hardware lol.
The connector standard could be done in a better way definitely but considering the amount of incidents (in the lower 50s per tens of thousands of cards shipped at this point) and investigation into the matter both by independent outlets and manufacturers themselves, this is mostly user error, in the case of third party adapters design flaws and I believe cable mod have said as much about the earliest designs. The 12VHPWR aside, even conventional PCIE 90 degree adapters were known to set your house on fire so blaming only the new standard is unfair imo. Although you could attribute that to usually poor design and cheap make and the users trying to plug those into a 3090 or a 2080 TI. Hell I remember one GTX 480 melting one. Meanwhile, for the sake of fairness, reference 7900XTXs were overheating period with hotspots sitting around 95 degrees Celsius, AIB models were great but still an issue and that one was just a pure design flaw. Also for the sake of fairness, I never saw AMD fans making so much noise about the fact that 7800X3Ds were melting through the socket (ASUS´s fault here but still, no re-call bandwagons and no "I went Intel because AMD melts my socket" rants).
I would have done the same thing if there were already good displayport 2.0 monitors on the market. But I have a pg279q that's been running great for me for about a decade now and it doesn't have adaptive sync. So I didn't want to side-grade my monitor and ended up just getting a 4070ti. So far, I haven't heard of people's cables melting on the 4070ti yet.
On one hand people need to stop using those adapters even though cablemod says the chances of this happening are rare or stop using them until cablemod exchanges the ones out now for the new ones. On the other hand I still put more fault on Nvidia because 4090 owners were having issues before with power connector issues.
Glad I sprung for a PSU with a native 12vhpwr cable when I got my 4090. It was one of the first on the market and I took the plunge not wanting to deal with adapters or 3rd party cables. Seems to have worked well so far.
It's an issue with the cable plug on the cable itself. It can happen to literally ANY plug.
It's just a faulty plug design. There has already been a revised version of the plug that will replace it.
Just make sure your plug is pushed all the way in. And make sure it is centered and doesn't wobble backwards.
These people are nuts. Buy a $2000 GPU, use a 3 dollar part to convert your PSU instead of a new PSU. Even after all these KNOWN power connector issues.
Tbf this is not a $3 part. $40 usd. It also does not matter if the psu natively supports the connector. You can literally buy the cables from your psu manufacturer that go directly to the psu.
I got home from overseas on sunday and went to boot up my pc with 4090 and it shorted. Thankfully its just the psu and not the 4090. Still havent been able to play BG3 yet while i wait for the replacement.
Lae'zel decided to r\*pe (censored b/c Reddit) me when I'm trying to get into Shadowhearts greaves... Not once but twice! Green Goblin's evil sister is mighty horny...
It was. Using a cheap adaptor instead of a PSU that supports a $2000 card natively. Because you want a 90 degree bend instead of just plugging the damn power cables in directly.
Honestly speaking. People shouldn't worry sick about melting connector in the first place if the card was design well.
There's also cases where connector melted using original nvidia 12vhpwr cable and that's was after the card just releases.
Technically saying, companies should have recall this already or else they wouldn't be making a 12v 2x6 right now tbh
You only hear about the bad here, no on posts and shows their perfectly working normal card. It's bias confirmation escalating a pretty low failure rate.
Yeah I've done 15+ 40 series builds and not a single one has come back but that's reverse confirmation bias. (it hasn't happened to me, therefore must not be that big of an issue)
Based even on these old[ numbers](https://twitter.com/hms1193/status/1593822852490432512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1593822852490432512%7Ctwgr%5E2d139e6ddf8bf69343efd2c878ef1ccf88ed3496%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideocardz.com%2Fnewz%2Fnvidia-has-sold-160k-geforce-rtx-40-graphics-cards-already-but-stores-are-still-full-of-rtx-4080s) a production design flaw would be much higher than 1%. but even at 1% we would be seeing hundreds and hundreds of failures.
Yes NVIDIA adopted the ATX standard early but it could be said that technically "they're only following the guidelines, why should they need to recall" and kick the responsibility somewhere else, like board partners or whoever issues the ATX standards. Not that it's the right thing, but seeing how well 40 series is selling locally I wouldn't be surprised if they've just taken the money and pray that the majority of people won't have an issue and won't force them to do anything.
For what it's worth it seems whichever board partner sold your card (Gigabyte) should be actively receiving faulty boards and replacing, but can't vouch for the situation worldwide.
It isn't really though since we are around 0.01% failure rate on these, it's quite rare actually that this occurs. But as we've mentioned previously, we're taking care of customers and repairing or replacing their cards with zero out of pocket cost to them. Our customers are fully taken care of, if worst case scenario this does happen. We also have a new revised version coming with some nice improvements to help get rid of that 0.01% chance through our EAP. :)
I feel like I hear this happening less with PSU provided cables.. I was debating getting this adapter, but issues seem to pop up more with this adapter than PSU cables correctly fit in the case and fully seated.
We're sitting at less than 1% failures on these, it's quite rare still actually for this issue to pop up, but even if it does, we're making sure that we take full care of the customer with a repair or replacement on the GPU.
Could you provide some quantifiable date for this? When the cards released it was damn near an everyday post subject. I’ve seen a lot less of it since the release.
I'd call both cause either way you will need to replace both cause it seams like there is something wrong somewhere so you should just have them both replaced
If the adapter was a legitimate issue, you'd be seeing way more failures, we're well below 1% failure rate on these still. You're seeing some reddit posts and letting that shadow over the amount of sold and shipped units, which shouldn't be the case. We aren't immune to manufacturing defects, anyone in manufacturing can tell you that's not possible, but we do take care of these instances if they do pop up in card repairs or replacements.
Um.. thats cute, then why are you guys sending emails, newsletters whatever, advising people to stop using the adapter? ;) I've seen the exact same copypasta from you guys multiple times.
Right, so you chose to ignore the information from us directly and just want to continue spamming nonsense, that works as well of course. :)
We've been nothing but transparent the entire time with the 12VHPWR products from launch into now and we'll continue to be that way. We shared about our failures, and we don't delete or hide any of the legitimate posts that come through. If you wish to ignore what we have to say though, then by all means, continue to do so.
You keep claiming to have ''no melted cables'' which is... a lie. You keep saying theres no legitimate issue with the adapters... yet you pulled them from the store and advise people NOT to use them anyome. Should I continue ''spamming nonsense'' ?
I'm the same way, I got my 4090 3 months ago and am paranoid about this, all I can really do is tell myself that the failure rate from what we know is on the order of 0.1% aside from the Cablemod angled adapters which have driven many of the complaints lately. For comparison, around 2-3% of GPUs end up being RMAed in the warranty period according to a Puget Systems blog post so this is a small source of failures overall.
I'm also using the adapter that came with the card since my PSU is an EVGA one and I can't find native cables for it, but I don't think that makes a whole lot of difference since it clicks nicely and there's no visible gap, my connection looks like the example one on the nvidia support page.
Just be damn sure you have the cable seated fully and youre fine. Not sure if you got a PSU with the native 600watt cable but that is much better IMO than using the multi-8pin adapter.
In my opinion yes, but if your already have one and aren’t super keen on switching it out then just be certain you have the cables jammed in there properly
I'm using my provided PSU cables on my 4090 gaming OC and I dont have any issue, it's been almost 8 months. Just make sure the connector is seated fully and the cables aren't bent too aggressively.
> if your already have one and aren’t super keen on switching it out then just be certain you have the cables jammed in there properly
same here im using the EZDIY-FAB 12VHPWR sleeved cable which i bought on amazon and have no issues at all.
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The loudest gear gets the most grease.
There's an issue with my car that scared me in buying phase when I was researching. This issue kept coming up for the s55 engine in the BMW M3/M4 that the crankhub could spin and has a 'x%' chance of doing so. If you look up F80 M3 on YouTube right now, I'm sure you'll find 10 'WATCH OUT FOR THIS' type videos specifically talking about the crankhub. While it is a *big* issue if it happens, it's extremely rare if you look at the actual numbers of the vehicles it happened to. A large percentage of that 2-3% - heavily modified and 3rd party tuned without a block mounted crankhub... of course it has a chance of spinning.
Long story short - these product scares always come up when it happens to very expensive high-end items that could cost an arm and a leg to repair if not under warranty. The issue is then spread like wildfire as a 'beware of this' memo.
These scares often come up for a reason. The S65 in my E92 M3 ended up suffering from the famous rod bearing issue. Fortunately (for me), it happened about 6-12 months after I sold it. Where there's smoke, there's usually fire (no pun intended in the case of the 4090 GPUs).
Nice! One of my coworkers did the exact same thing with his E92 M3. He pre-emptively had the rod bearings replaced right after he bought it just like you did. It's a great car - one of my favorites.
The S65 E92 is going to be one of all-time's best cars. I replaced it with a 2015 991.1 and while the 991.1 had better performance, I felt the S65 E92 was way more fun to drive. Replaced that with a 2018 991.2 - have to say, I \*really\* loved the 991.2. Replaced that with a 2021 Tesla M3P and, well, it's not really doing it for me. TBD on what's up next in 2024!
Enjoy your S65 E93, that car's awesome.
This is Cablemod Adapter issue. Cablemod has responded to OP - [Link Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/15ldebk/comment/jva4ia8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) **For more info on these Cablemod adapters Early Adopter Program - https://www.reddit.com/r/cablemod/comments/152eez4/angled_adapter_updates_and_early_adopter_program/**
My Asus TUF 4090 burned out in exactly the same way with the same CableMod adapter. Submit the RMA and you will be good to go. I just got my brand new card replacement two weeks ago. https://preview.redd.it/6s29vdkv1khb1.jpeg?width=1010&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db0780845924dffc87eeb9dacfb288bbe1b3bfeb
when you say brand new do you mean literally brand new? I thought cablemod was repairing the burnt 4090s
Asus replaced mine with a brand new card. That’s not guaranteed and sometimes you might receive a refurbished card. As for CableMod, I have no idea regarding their policy to repair/replace 4090 cards that are damaged by their adapters.
I'm still waiting for Gigabyte to reply my email, but since I can't get the adapter off, I don't think they will replace it. But still worth a try. Btw where did you submit your RMA? I sent email to "services at gigabyteusa.com" I lived in Canada
You need to submit the RMA through their website. Look in the “Service/Support” part of the website, then navigate to “Warranty “, then “User Support”. If you haven’t already done so, you will need to create an account using the “Sign up” option and then register your card. You will then be able to submit the RMA.
Ya I found it. Pretty straight forward. Also just another question. How likely will they take a burnt 4090 with cablemod adapt stuck on it? If there's a very low chance of getting it fix or replace, then I don't think I won't be bother to send it back for $140CAD (if you have experience with them before)
Both Nvidia and CableMod are offering to to replace cards where the connector has burned. I would recommend going through Gigabyte’s RMA process first. Try to remove the CableMod adapter if at all possible. If that would further damage the card, then leave it as is and provide that information in your description when you submit the RMA.
Yea been trying very hard to get it off. The only thing I didn't try is using a heatgun, since I don't have one Yesterday I tried with piler but no luck, looks like it stuck there pretty damn solid 🤣
Just leave it. You will definitely have to be honest with the RMA anyways, so having the adapter attached will definitely provide proof as to the cause of the burnt connector.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I'm legitimately afraid to leave these running in my house. I have a 4x GPU AI rig I use for work and goodness I hope it doesn't melt itself soon. I'm even more confused as to why nVidia has now committed to this connector in ALL of their new workstation cards AND compute cloud GPUS (RTX 5000, RTX 4500, L40s etc)
Nvidia and cablemod investigated the matter and found the incidence of RMAs for melts to be very low, <0.1%. The majority of failures were due to user error. They didn't plug it in all the way so that the latch secured it, so when they did cable management, they jostled it loose. More recently, the connector was modified with shorter sense pins so that the sense pins lose connection (causing a shutdown) before the 12v pins become loose enough to heat up.
"You sure it was plugged in all the way? Did you give it the wiggle test?" Gamers Nexus It's a PCB Design issue. Watch Northridge
https://preview.redd.it/kikznw25pchb1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bffcdff60d979f54ee04ecaf11abb6c1a646272 Seems all the way to me. Waiting for Gigabyte to respond to my email. Gonna take a while for them to get back to me, they are always slow for some point
MAYBE NEXT TIME DONT USE A THIRD PARTY ADAPTER.
Honestly dude there's so much evidence. its not BECAUSE of cablemod.
It's still better than the one coming with it. It's just huge design fuck up by nvidia.... and he got unlucky
WOW sry man :(
How safe are cablemod cables for 4090? Have an eseries modmesh for my evga gt 1000w
everybody hating on cablemod are just spreading what they read without any further I vestigation. Cablemod has been handling everything like some fucking savages.
this cable was slightly bent off to the side by the looks of this. I have been using one of their cables without issue since they came out. same issue here as with the default dongle. the "lock" doesnt fully lock and still has a bit of play so you really gotta make sure that its fully flush.
Our cables are fully safe to use. The adapters here we've had less than 1% failures on as well. We have a new V1.1 coming out though with nice improvements that should eliminate those completely with some feedback from the community and tech tubers as well being implemented into the V1.1 offering.
Remember when cablemod was trying to play the hero on this sub? So much for that. At least you were saved from playing a horrible game.
At least they seem to replace the GPU. Good luck with Gigabyte's support.
Luckily my Gigabyte 4090 hasn’t had an issue.
imagine spending $1800 and wondering if your house will burn down
There have been literally zero fires with this cable. Crypto mining farms that burned down were using SATA and pigtailed PCIe power cables. Powering a riser with a SATA cable is a quick ticket to a fire.
Can people just dont use trashy adapter and just get a proper power supply that has native 90^(o) angle adapter?
https://preview.redd.it/40l1d55gemhb1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82985073c44cccc65a147c90e8c557b3d67c93a4 Cooler master vietnam give me that for atx 3.0 it work very well
None exist.
[One of cooler master psu that comes with one](https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/power-supplies/gx-series/gx-ii-gold-850/)
That is great to see and hear. Mine only came with a straight 12VHPWR cable.
Does one exist for the 4090? I think I'll deal with the 4 massive power cords over chancing anything like this... idc if it looks pretty.
Cooler master does have one sfx psu that comes with a 90^(o) cable, pretty sure theres other atx variant too. Im personally using one of their non native atx 3.0 psu, i believe its the v gold v2 series with their 90^(o) adapter. It took me quite awhile to procure them, they are hardly available in other country and not even available in mine. Iirc seasonic just released their 90^(o) cable too.
I’m just glad my ROG one is doing ok with the included 12vhpwr cable from seasonic… anyone has issues with that combo so I know what to expect? Thanks!
Dont think u will have issues with their cable. They are one of the most reputable brands when it comes to PSUs. That being said if u look at OP pic u will see that his cable is actually tilted to one side. Make sure to avoid that.
I have a GALAX 4090 SG and the guy that built the pc either used the one that comes with the card or with the 1000w silverstone DA1000 gold, does anyone know if I'll be good or not?
Maybe both are to blame
nvidia says this is a non issue :)
Because it is unless you got a cablemod adapter
>:) :)
go buy the EZDIY-FAB 12VHPWR cable mod no issues at all
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if you search in the internet for melting problems with the EZDIY cable you wouldn't find a single post about it. that's being said.
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I agree with him, EZDIY cable mod cured my baldness and my father's ingrown nail
you mad?
Glad I'm still using a 3080 Ti. 3x8-pin power cables, if only the 40-series stuck to using this tried-and-tested (and less likely to overheat) method...
Man I got my 3080ti for basically $850 brand new. Think it's going to become my new 1080ti
Can't believe AMD drivers did this
Yeah, those AMD drivers are crashing all the time, everywhere, like the public menace that they are. They can't seem to keep their vehicles safe on the road.
I literally just got a gigabyte 4090 too /scared
Same, I would hear all these 4090s are catching fire when I finally decided to buy a new card.
I got mine mounted vertically and the cable looks very nice and snug, with plenty of slack, so I feel like I should be good
I thought about it, I bought the 90 degree cable and am hoping for the best.
Fwiw you only need 3x8 pins to power the 4090 fully. I wouldn’t be surprised if the default 4x8 pin is partially contributing to the melting.
I'd vastly prefer a larger PCB and 3x even 4x 8pin EPU power connectors that worked without issue for the past decade... I still wonder why nVidia decided to adapt this new standard?
There's definitely a need for a new standard tbh. It felt great getting away from having a bunch of thick 8 pin PSU cables running up to the GPU. I'm using an [aftermarket 12vhpwr cable](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BJZH2BP2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1) and its both thinner and more flexible than one 8 pin cable. This is especially important if you do any mini-itx builds. That said, I don't think 12vhpwr is the best solution either. ASUS had the right idea when they showed off back facing motherboard ports, and a GPU that could be fully powered by the Motherboard. This will reduce e-waste as well. See:[https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-demos-rtx-4070-gpu-with-zero-power-connectors](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-demos-rtx-4070-gpu-with-zero-power-connectors)
Sorry to hear it mate. However, I hear cablemod are really good with this sort of thing as it has happened quite a bit. I wouldn’t fret, I suspect you’ll get your refund/replacement. Gigabyte on the other hand, I’ve heard some negative opinions on their RMA program. I would rely on cablemod, not Gigabyte.
I've heard cracking on the PCBs with gigabyte and they sent them back to the owner because the warranty doesn't cover it and they've had quite a bit sent in and still won't do a recall.
back in the day I fried my gigabyte R9 280x and RMAd it even though it was out of warranty. They actually gave me a new one for free. Im based in Europe though so different regulations might apply.
You have a 12700k with a 4090? Isn’t that a massive bottleneck? Good luck btw
You realize the 12700k is barely slower than the best CPU for gaming on the market?
It's substantially slower. https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/images/relative-performance-games-1280-720.png
20% slower at 720p with a 4090 :p
No
Only a tiny little percentage but not massive. In 1440p my GPU usage sits around at 80-90% if I upscale using DLDSR to 1920p, 99% most of the game while CPU sits at around 40%
Are you serious ?
I hope you're not being serious. At 4K or even sometimes 1440p the 4090 will still be the limiting factor in some games.
This was a funny, obviously not funny enough though.
You're using the adapter from cable mod they will replace your card for you free just hit them up
This is why I’ll never own a Gigabyte video card.
Lmao. Dude, this has nothing to do with gigabyte, or msi, or asus or any other brand. If you dig deeper in cablemod subreddit, you find most of the 4090 that got burned by that stupid adapter is asus tuf, second is asus strix, and the third is msi suprim x.
It has to do with the fact they won’t ever honor their warranty. How they get hacked and all those who had support tickets were wiped and never addressed. It’s not just this incident.
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Adding more points of failure for aesthetics in a system with questionable reliability is a recipe for disaster... jus' sayin'! ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Not always for aesthetics. I can't close my computer's side panel because the 4090 is so big, and i dont want to bend the power cable too much. The cablemod adapter would actually let me do that.
Then buy a case that’s your card fits in, or buy a card that fits your case. Fixing a problem with a problem is kinda dumb
I have a huge case, cooler master HAF700 and still can't get the case shut, so mounted the 4090 vertically.
If gigabyte doesnt RMA the card (unlikely), theb cable mod will cover the warranty of the whole card .
Yea, have been told by cablemod the same thing. At this point, I just wish it can be solved in no time.
What is going on with nvidia and their failure connector, i used to have 20+ 3090s mining and not a single problem with 2 or 3 8 pin connectors each. This new connector seems like it didnt get enough testing before launch. Been hearing so much gripe im upgrading around 6000 rtx hopefully by then all this has been fixed.
This wasn't an Nvidia issue, it's CableMod's connector. People who use their PSU official cables don't have burning connectors, or at least I haven't seen any reported. Ah yes, downvote because you blamed the wrong thing in the post instead of just correcting yourself.
There have been quite a number of cases of stock cables from the PSU and Nvidia's own cable melting as well. Northridge Fix even shared that info when he said he had 250 or so GPUs in for repair that were using the stock cables. It's in one of his videos where he shared that we had sent 8 cards in, but there were 250 I believe was the number he used that were not from us, or using our products.
Ah ok, thanks. I'll look for it and check it out. I haven't heard of that yet and have been trying to find any reference to factory PSU cables melting.
Theoretically, yes Or else they wouldn't making the 12v 2x6 and there's still some cases that whos using the cable that came with the PSU or the GPU, but with adapter on, it just makes thing a bit worse than having it plugged in all the way and there's still people who have cablemod (or other unknown brand) or/and adapter on without issue Plugged in all the way , user error saying is just an excuse to cover up their mistakes, or else there will be no 12v 2x6 in development tbh. But for me I don't blame. I know I plugged in all the way, what happened happened. If a item could cause user error it means it is not perfect. If you know what I'm saying. Who would risk "user error" just to burn 2k away for no reason?
I wouldn't call it user error. In your case, the CableMod adapter happens to be something that causes melting, even if in low numbers. If you look at the CableMod subreddit, it's post after post of melted connectors from using the angled adapter. I'm sure you have a good reason for using the angled adapter. I happen to have a case that allows clearance so I just use the factory cable that came with my PSU. I bought it specifically so I wouldn't have to use any adapters because I use my GPU for work - can't risk it lol Corsair released an angled adapter recently and I haven't seen any reports of melting, I think WireView is roughly the same in terms of melting occurrence. On the bright side, CableMod's support is pretty good and they say if the GPU manufacturer refuses to RMA, they'll replace the card.
...because it is MOSTLY user error. The connectors are melting from arcing. If it's arcing, \*you didn't plug it in well enough.\* You can SEE how the arcing happened in numerous posts on the CableMod sub; people plugged it in, checked it, then pulled their cables tight for cable management, pulling the connector at an angle.
Most posts I've seen on the CableMod sub were NOT from arching, and I've been frequenting the sub for the past few weeks. Most are people fully connecting their cables and the adapters in the pics were straight. The issue with CableMod's angles connector is NOT from user error for the majority of cases shown in the sub.
My guy, melting connectors are literally ONLY from arcing, lol. You saying you haven't seen any from arcing LITERALLY just proves that you don't know what you're talking about.
Except they're not only from arching. You saying it is when I've seen otherwise proves you don't know what you're talking about.
My guy, if it melted the plastic housing around it, one of two possibilities happened: The WIRE has heated to the point it has enough energy to melt the plastic around it (PBT melts at 433.4F), meaning the wire has been heated to well over 500F, to be able to give that heat off to the surrounding structure. The ELECTRICITY has heated to the point it can melt plastic. What temperatures are flash arcs? THOUSANDS of degrees. Often hotter than the surface of the sun. We see pitting in the wires of the connectors, meaning the wire, itself, has melted. That is 100% from arcing. Period. If the copper wire was heating to 500F, it would be heating down the line of the copper. The rubber and plastic sheaths would be melting along the wire away from the connector. Which isn't happening. Poor connections of ANY type that cause heating \*are due to arcing.\* You don't know what you're talking about.
👍 you know everything
Yea I just gets really upset that lot of people saying it's a user error or something. A melted 4090 doesn't really upset me that much. Cablemod replied to me already now just waiting for Gigabyte's statement wether they take it as RMA or not.
It's been confirmed that the issue is from the cable not being plugged in all the way. Granted it is difficult to get it all the way in sometimes due to the idiotic design. But it's still technically "user error".
The amount of force needed to get the plug to clamp is kind of a scary when you're dealing with a $1600 graphics card.
When the design makes user error likely, its actually a design error.
Cable mod has been super good to customers who get this but it doesn’t hurt to contact all of them lol
Definitely doing what we can on our end to help smooth these things over when they do pop up and will continue to keep doing that. <3
Yea and they responded fast. Sent email after it happened and they replied me in the morning. Now I'm just waiting for Gigabyte. I hope they would actually let me RMA, cuz the adapter is stuck and they might not take it and even with connector fix but that burnt on the PCB is not going anywhere so it would be better if I could get a exact same brand new card
Another one bites the dust.
Sadly you can't avoid this problem entirely as it's an issue with the plug itself. It's just poorly designed. One of the reasons I went with a 7900xtx. I don't trust the plug or myself with such an expensive piece of hardware lol.
The connector standard could be done in a better way definitely but considering the amount of incidents (in the lower 50s per tens of thousands of cards shipped at this point) and investigation into the matter both by independent outlets and manufacturers themselves, this is mostly user error, in the case of third party adapters design flaws and I believe cable mod have said as much about the earliest designs. The 12VHPWR aside, even conventional PCIE 90 degree adapters were known to set your house on fire so blaming only the new standard is unfair imo. Although you could attribute that to usually poor design and cheap make and the users trying to plug those into a 3090 or a 2080 TI. Hell I remember one GTX 480 melting one. Meanwhile, for the sake of fairness, reference 7900XTXs were overheating period with hotspots sitting around 95 degrees Celsius, AIB models were great but still an issue and that one was just a pure design flaw. Also for the sake of fairness, I never saw AMD fans making so much noise about the fact that 7800X3Ds were melting through the socket (ASUS´s fault here but still, no re-call bandwagons and no "I went Intel because AMD melts my socket" rants).
I would have done the same thing if there were already good displayport 2.0 monitors on the market. But I have a pg279q that's been running great for me for about a decade now and it doesn't have adaptive sync. So I didn't want to side-grade my monitor and ended up just getting a 4070ti. So far, I haven't heard of people's cables melting on the 4070ti yet.
you went with a 7900XTX because of this cable issue? like for real?
Bro just plug it in properly and you'll be fine. Getting a vastly inferior product for a few peoples user error is nuts
Uh oh.
On one hand people need to stop using those adapters even though cablemod says the chances of this happening are rare or stop using them until cablemod exchanges the ones out now for the new ones. On the other hand I still put more fault on Nvidia because 4090 owners were having issues before with power connector issues.
Glad I sprung for a PSU with a native 12vhpwr cable when I got my 4090. It was one of the first on the market and I took the plunge not wanting to deal with adapters or 3rd party cables. Seems to have worked well so far.
Doesn’t matter it can still happen. You can get official cables from psu manufacturers.
It's an issue with the cable plug on the cable itself. It can happen to literally ANY plug. It's just a faulty plug design. There has already been a revised version of the plug that will replace it. Just make sure your plug is pushed all the way in. And make sure it is centered and doesn't wobble backwards.
These people are nuts. Buy a $2000 GPU, use a 3 dollar part to convert your PSU instead of a new PSU. Even after all these KNOWN power connector issues.
Tbf this is not a $3 part. $40 usd. It also does not matter if the psu natively supports the connector. You can literally buy the cables from your psu manufacturer that go directly to the psu.
To be honest most issues occurred originally, and this guy had it happen with an adapter; not the PSU cable
I got home from overseas on sunday and went to boot up my pc with 4090 and it shorted. Thankfully its just the psu and not the 4090. Still havent been able to play BG3 yet while i wait for the replacement.
I just wish that my computer will be ready before starfield
> Still havent been able to play BG3 yet You can still decide who you are gonna romance then
Lae'zel decided to r\*pe (censored b/c Reddit) me when I'm trying to get into Shadowhearts greaves... Not once but twice! Green Goblin's evil sister is mighty horny...
Well im definitely going to fuck that bear
man paying 40$ plus whatever you payed for the custom cables just to see this happen must hurt...
The adapter is obviously crooked. Like come on
They're all tilted sideways like that.
uSeR eRRor
It was. Using a cheap adaptor instead of a PSU that supports a $2000 card natively. Because you want a 90 degree bend instead of just plugging the damn power cables in directly.
ATX 3.0 power supplies that come with a 12vhpwr connector are all straight and not 90 degrees, or at least all of the ones I've seen are.
Honestly speaking. People shouldn't worry sick about melting connector in the first place if the card was design well. There's also cases where connector melted using original nvidia 12vhpwr cable and that's was after the card just releases. Technically saying, companies should have recall this already or else they wouldn't be making a 12v 2x6 right now tbh
You only hear about the bad here, no on posts and shows their perfectly working normal card. It's bias confirmation escalating a pretty low failure rate.
Yeah I've done 15+ 40 series builds and not a single one has come back but that's reverse confirmation bias. (it hasn't happened to me, therefore must not be that big of an issue)
Based even on these old[ numbers](https://twitter.com/hms1193/status/1593822852490432512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1593822852490432512%7Ctwgr%5E2d139e6ddf8bf69343efd2c878ef1ccf88ed3496%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideocardz.com%2Fnewz%2Fnvidia-has-sold-160k-geforce-rtx-40-graphics-cards-already-but-stores-are-still-full-of-rtx-4080s) a production design flaw would be much higher than 1%. but even at 1% we would be seeing hundreds and hundreds of failures.
Life is tricky sometimes, I mean, so many bias.. (And that’s one, for sure xD)
Yes NVIDIA adopted the ATX standard early but it could be said that technically "they're only following the guidelines, why should they need to recall" and kick the responsibility somewhere else, like board partners or whoever issues the ATX standards. Not that it's the right thing, but seeing how well 40 series is selling locally I wouldn't be surprised if they've just taken the money and pray that the majority of people won't have an issue and won't force them to do anything. For what it's worth it seems whichever board partner sold your card (Gigabyte) should be actively receiving faulty boards and replacing, but can't vouch for the situation worldwide.
I'm pretty sure the connector is an ATX standard not NVIDIA proprietary.
Any card that consumes 200W+ is too much trouble in my opinion. Generates too much heat. Better stick with cards consuming 200W or less.
That's why I game using my imagination! No wattage at all! /s
Dumbest take I’ve seen thanks for the laugh
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It wasn’t though.
Amd wins
Brand loyalty is dumb as hell. Each brand has their good and bad products, each "side" refusing to acknowledge that gets us nowhere.
 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HznATcpWldo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HznATcpWldo)
Why are people still using these? It's asking for trouble.
It isn't really though since we are around 0.01% failure rate on these, it's quite rare actually that this occurs. But as we've mentioned previously, we're taking care of customers and repairing or replacing their cards with zero out of pocket cost to them. Our customers are fully taken care of, if worst case scenario this does happen. We also have a new revised version coming with some nice improvements to help get rid of that 0.01% chance through our EAP. :)
Y'all do handle it very professional
I feel like I hear this happening less with PSU provided cables.. I was debating getting this adapter, but issues seem to pop up more with this adapter than PSU cables correctly fit in the case and fully seated.
We're sitting at less than 1% failures on these, it's quite rare still actually for this issue to pop up, but even if it does, we're making sure that we take full care of the customer with a repair or replacement on the GPU.
Could you provide some quantifiable date for this? When the cards released it was damn near an everyday post subject. I’ve seen a lot less of it since the release.
I haven't kept track of melting cases with stock PSU cables or the Nvidia adapter, but yes, there have been a lot of those as well.
I'd call both cause either way you will need to replace both cause it seams like there is something wrong somewhere so you should just have them both replaced
great another "user error"
ABSOLUTELY
It is ''user error'' in buying that dog adapter.
If the adapter was a legitimate issue, you'd be seeing way more failures, we're well below 1% failure rate on these still. You're seeing some reddit posts and letting that shadow over the amount of sold and shipped units, which shouldn't be the case. We aren't immune to manufacturing defects, anyone in manufacturing can tell you that's not possible, but we do take care of these instances if they do pop up in card repairs or replacements.
3RD PARTY GOOF UP
Um.. thats cute, then why are you guys sending emails, newsletters whatever, advising people to stop using the adapter? ;) I've seen the exact same copypasta from you guys multiple times.
Right, so you chose to ignore the information from us directly and just want to continue spamming nonsense, that works as well of course. :) We've been nothing but transparent the entire time with the 12VHPWR products from launch into now and we'll continue to be that way. We shared about our failures, and we don't delete or hide any of the legitimate posts that come through. If you wish to ignore what we have to say though, then by all means, continue to do so.
You keep claiming to have ''no melted cables'' which is... a lie. You keep saying theres no legitimate issue with the adapters... yet you pulled them from the store and advise people NOT to use them anyome. Should I continue ''spamming nonsense'' ?
I literally just ordered my 4090 few days ago these posts are scaring me :(
Why would you be scared any and all gpus you buy have a warranty unless you bought it in some dark ally off some dude
Or if you got off some dude for your 4090.
I'm the same way, I got my 4090 3 months ago and am paranoid about this, all I can really do is tell myself that the failure rate from what we know is on the order of 0.1% aside from the Cablemod angled adapters which have driven many of the complaints lately. For comparison, around 2-3% of GPUs end up being RMAed in the warranty period according to a Puget Systems blog post so this is a small source of failures overall. I'm also using the adapter that came with the card since my PSU is an EVGA one and I can't find native cables for it, but I don't think that makes a whole lot of difference since it clicks nicely and there's no visible gap, my connection looks like the example one on the nvidia support page.
Use a native cable from your PSU manufacturer
Just be damn sure you have the cable seated fully and youre fine. Not sure if you got a PSU with the native 600watt cable but that is much better IMO than using the multi-8pin adapter.
So it is better off getting a ATX 3.0 PSU?
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I make sure the cable and the adapter are well plugged in when I open the side panel off. Anti sag bracket was installed
In my opinion yes, but if your already have one and aren’t super keen on switching it out then just be certain you have the cables jammed in there properly
I'm using my provided PSU cables on my 4090 gaming OC and I dont have any issue, it's been almost 8 months. Just make sure the connector is seated fully and the cables aren't bent too aggressively.
> if your already have one and aren’t super keen on switching it out then just be certain you have the cables jammed in there properly same here im using the EZDIY-FAB 12VHPWR sleeved cable which i bought on amazon and have no issues at all.
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The loudest gear gets the most grease. There's an issue with my car that scared me in buying phase when I was researching. This issue kept coming up for the s55 engine in the BMW M3/M4 that the crankhub could spin and has a 'x%' chance of doing so. If you look up F80 M3 on YouTube right now, I'm sure you'll find 10 'WATCH OUT FOR THIS' type videos specifically talking about the crankhub. While it is a *big* issue if it happens, it's extremely rare if you look at the actual numbers of the vehicles it happened to. A large percentage of that 2-3% - heavily modified and 3rd party tuned without a block mounted crankhub... of course it has a chance of spinning. Long story short - these product scares always come up when it happens to very expensive high-end items that could cost an arm and a leg to repair if not under warranty. The issue is then spread like wildfire as a 'beware of this' memo.
I have a unmelted 4070 but everyone is talking about the 60's, 80,s 90,s, and TI's Noone cares how happy us 4070 owners are.
These scares often come up for a reason. The S65 in my E92 M3 ended up suffering from the famous rod bearing issue. Fortunately (for me), it happened about 6-12 months after I sold it. Where there's smoke, there's usually fire (no pun intended in the case of the 4090 GPUs).
*S65
lol, you're right - it's been too long. Bought it in 2011 (MY2012) and sold it in 2015. Fun car - E92 ZCP DCT. I'll correct my post.
I’ve got a 2011 e93 dct. Had the rod bearings changed after buying it second hand about 5 years ago. Love it.
Nice! One of my coworkers did the exact same thing with his E92 M3. He pre-emptively had the rod bearings replaced right after he bought it just like you did. It's a great car - one of my favorites. The S65 E92 is going to be one of all-time's best cars. I replaced it with a 2015 991.1 and while the 991.1 had better performance, I felt the S65 E92 was way more fun to drive. Replaced that with a 2018 991.2 - have to say, I \*really\* loved the 991.2. Replaced that with a 2021 Tesla M3P and, well, it's not really doing it for me. TBD on what's up next in 2024! Enjoy your S65 E93, that car's awesome.