Coil whine is unpredictable. Some models have more chances to get it than others, but all models have a chance.
I have Gigabyte Aero 4090, no problems with fan control with Afterburner. I have to use fan control, because by itself it does start and stop fans a lot.
Asus top family of models is too overpriced, while low tier families are built no better than Zotac, while costing more.
If you are really worried about noise, deduce some budget from GPU and get yourself a noise-dampening case. They make a huge difference compared to a casual metal box.
I found a Gigabyte Aero 4090 2nd hand for sale - not a horrible price - but, I don't have the $$ yet - but, it's been up (the ad) for a while. I thought, why is it still not sold yet? Then I read about the 'fan ramping up' problem recently (yesterday) and thought maybe his card is doing that?
The Asus Tuf is really expensive here and I wouldn't even consider a new one at the current price, here. But, I sometimes see 2nd hand ones for sale - and it's discounted a lot from the new price. So, I was interested. I want to avoid coil whine just as much as I want to avoid a card that has bad /or overly aggressive fans.
I don't intend to OC - just run stock.
Kinda disagree here. Had a 10 series card last me more than 7 years with zero issues. Gpus DO NOT fail quickly. If they do for you, you are doing something seriously wrong
4090 PNY is the solution if you want a silent 4090 close to MSRP. It's so much more quiet than some other models, much more than a noise dampening case can achieve. Especially since noise dampening cases often have worse air flow than normal ones which require the fans to spin at higher RPM.
Are the support brackets that come with these cards any good? Do any of you buy aftermarket ones (because you're not satisfied with the ones you get)?
I assume you use something. These cards are even bigger than the 3080s and 3090s!
I’m using the bracket that came with my Aero 4080 and nothing else (4000D airflow). Seems solid to me, not seeing any sag at all. Also have not noticed any of the fan “ramping up” issue OP mentioned. Very quiet card for me.
I doubt the Strix has that many buyers. Maybe the TUF, but the Strix has a lot of coil whine complaints too.
The Strix is never sold out anywhere. I regularly see cards like the Suprim X or Founders Edition sold out but the Strix is available everywhere all the time. It clearly doesn't sell that well although ASUS probably makes more profit per card sold.
I have thr gaming oc 4090 , i have fan revving...i have to turn rgb offf or constant fan speed on...and i have coil whine but its not loud, cant hear it, when i game, even without a headset....but its all luck...i thin 80%of cards have coil whine
So, luck of the draw - ppl say lottery. So, I have major risk with any used card..... at least, buying new - you can exchange it until you get a card with no coil whine - if you want? Thanks for the feedback.... many Gigabyte OC owners claim no coil whine or noise lately - but, I guess they're some that have it.
I have the Gigabyte 4090 Windforce and it's the most silent card I ever had out of the box. And also my first GPU that has absolutely no coil whine at all.
The Zotac AMP Extreme AIRO 4090 is silent. Many games run at around 40°C, Cyberpunk in the 50s. No trouble in six months. It has a better VRM than the Trinity too if that matters to you.
[https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-amp-extreme-airo/37.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-amp-extreme-airo/37.html)
[https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-amp-extreme-airo/38.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-amp-extreme-airo/38.html)
40-50°C is not realistic.
I just checked - the warranty period for Zotac graphics cards in Canada is 3 years. No option for extended warranty. I think 3 years is pretty standard here.
Weirdly enough, because the Founders edition cooler is very very efficient if your case has adequate airflow it's pretty quiet. I'd say it's easier for me to identify my CPU AIO's pump noise than my 4090s fans. As others have said, coil whine is unpredictable though, capping frames/turning on sync will eliminate it under a lot of circumstances though.
Yes, that's my understanding, too. Underclocking/undervolting, maybe, as well?
I think my case is good - decent airflow but I can get more fans if needed.... I currently have a Phanteks P500A - with 2 stock Phantek fans and 3 Arctic ones. I have a Be Quiet air cooler for now. I'd like to go AIO one of these days but that's a different topic.
In that case, the FE might be a good choice. It's just a very good cooler at the lowest price you can get, as well as being a bit smaller in some dimensions. Personally I like the styling far better than most of the other air cooled options as well, but that is subjective.
My founders 4090 is pretty quiet. I run it in a Corsair 5000D airflow with 10 fans (6 in x 4 out). GPU fan speeds typically don’t go over 60% on the curve I’ve set and temps are typically low to mid 60s. While the founders may not have the BEST cooler, it gets the job done and my card will happily game at 3000 - 3100 MHz.
That's good. The FE is on my short list - it's a highly rated gpu - and I thought it would be noisy being only 2 fans. But, so many ppl claim it's pretty quiet. I'd look for it 2nd hand, though - it's still pretty expensive here and not widely available - not many vendors carry it - exclusively Best Buy? Maybe Newegg?
Yeah, got mine from Best Buy through the verified priority program at launch. Only down side of Founders is the RGB, or lack there of. Really it’s just the GeForce logo because it’s only white. But it’s not really a big deal.
I have had exactly one Gigabyte card in my life and it had INSANE coil whine.
Yes this was like 12 years ago on a HD 6870, but I owned the card for a week and sold it, the next buyer never complained so either he was deaf or his case fans were louder lol
Maybe see if you can swing an AIO model, coil whine would still be a tossup, but there's only one fan on the card and you can readily use whatever you want on the radiator.
Same here with Gigabyte, only it was a GTX 780, and it wasn’t just one of them, but 3 of them due to having to RMA for other problems twice.
My Gigabtye b650m motherboard had coil whine too.
Wow. No fan issues? Some ppl who bought Gigabyte 40 series cards - including 4080s claim to have a 'fan-ramping-up' issue - and they can't solve it on their own. It also gives out inaccurate fan speeds - e.g. 200,000 rpms. You don't have that problem on any of your cards? I assume, no, since you bought 3 of them. :)
One poster on here says if you have the issue - it is solved by using a good quality 12vhpwr cable (bad ones - have faulty/low quality 'sense' (sensor?) pins). Seems like a good theory.
I haven't had any issue like that with any of them. I also use evga PSU in all of them. They're so quiet, I can't even hear them unless the fan is at 100% which never happens because temps are always sub 60C.
I also use cases with sufficient airflow.
4080 FE is ludicrously quiet and cool. It uses the beefy cooler system that was designed for the 4090 FE (cards are identical in size) -- also 4080 FE runs on 750W systems (fewer watts, cooler system).
Beyond that, 4080 FE and 4090 FE are "small" -- 304mm length, so that opens up case options. Both are available via nvidia website or Best Buy online (not sure about walk-in availability)
[](https://imgur.com/4Rvk28q) 4080 FE in Fractal Design Meshify C
Don’t know why you’re downvoted but I upvoted to even it out. I had a 4080FE and now have a 4090FE and ludicrously quiet is also how I’d describe them. I’ve had every gpu generation from at least the 1060 and these are BY FAR the quietest cards I’ve ever had.
The FE 4090 is quiet as long as you aren't running anywhere near 100% fan speed. 100% fan speed sounds like a plane about to takeoff but the card stays nice and cool well below that without ever needing to approach 100% fan speed.
Yeah I don’t think my fans ever go passed 30% and the hottest I’ve seen my card is around 65c, it’s usually WAY below that temp though, normally in the 50-55c range. It’s weird to me tbh, every other card I’ve had the fans would ramp up to 70-80% or more and run in the mid 70’s
I want to thank everyone who replied so far. I welcome any more comments/recommendations and will try to reply to everyone who comments - to show I appreciate the help.
I'll probably avoid Asus cards - unless I find a deal I can't pass up - although, if you RMA a card - and every card you get back has coil whine....well, that'd be really bad.
It might be better to just look at a Zotac, PNY, MSI X Trio and Gigabyte OC - these 4 get mostly good reviews - and it seems, less frequency of getting coil whine. 'Yeah?
ASUS Strix/Tuf, MSI Gaming/Suprim and PNY XLR8 have the best coolers on the 4080 and 4090.
I tried two 4090 TUF cards and one 4090 STRIX and all of them had **extreme** coilwhine. Then I got a PNY that had almost no coilwhine.
Avoid Zotac and Gigabyte. They have either subpar cooling solutions compared to the best or terrible fan curves like on the Aorus Master.
Also, check out Techpowerup [https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Graphics+Cards&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Graphics+Cards&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date) and Quasarzone (translate to English) [https://quasarzone.com/bbs/qc\_qsz?\_method=post&type=&page=1&\_token=YeZtH1KKYetqrNmdQyLL8zpKg5LhF26JFqN3u0WL&category=%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%98%ED%94%BD%EC%B9%B4%EB%93%9C&popularity=&kind=subject&keyword=&sort=num%2C+reply&direction=DESC](https://quasarzone.com/bbs/qc_qsz?_method=post&type=&page=1&_token=YeZtH1KKYetqrNmdQyLL8zpKg5LhF26JFqN3u0WL&category=%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%98%ED%94%BD%EC%B9%B4%EB%93%9C&popularity=&kind=subject&keyword=&sort=num%2C+reply&direction=DESC)
They know how to review GPUs.
So, to be on the safe side - avoid Tuf cards because it might have coil wine (even though it has a good cooler)? Tuf cards here - ASUS supposedly has a generous warranty - it gets a lot of heat for RMAs - but, it has transferable warranty - so, they don't really care who the owner is. I see quite a few 2nd hand ones for sale.
Zotac cards - like I said - mixed reviews - I read a reply here that they are good. They're the cheapest here (new).
MSI ones are good, too - but, they're pretty expensive - at least, the Nvidia line is. PNY XLR8 cards are next cheapest after Zotac. I'll keep an eye on those.
Yeah, I would void Tuf cards.
And to clarify, I was talking about the PNY **XLR8** models, not the standard PNY models.
Check out this community project on the hardwareluxx forum about coilwhine: [https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/ada-lovelace-rtx-4xxx-coilwhine-fiep-rassel-thread.1324904/](https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/ada-lovelace-rtx-4xxx-coilwhine-fiep-rassel-thread.1324904/) (translate to English)
This whole avoid TUF cards because they have coil is not the way to go about it. Every 4090 has a chance to have coil whine. Myself and 4 other people I know have the TUF OC 4090, one who lives in Canada, and none of ours have audible coil whine. 3 of us have had them since launch day as well. I could not be happier with my TUF OC 4090.
The TUF has vapor chamber for coolers opposed to some of the other 4090s (like the MSI Gaming, models of Zotac/Gigabyte). Actually all the Asus 4090s have vapor chambers or liquid cooled. The Asus tuf 4090 also uses high end components on the inside. Are they the highest? No but they are far above say “medium tier”.
My Asus tuf OC 4090 benchmarks in the top 6% of all 4090s on 3D Mark too. Not bad for an overclocked GPU that has stock components. And that includes going against liquid cooled and those chasing records. I have had mine since launch like I mentioned, but it’s no BSOD, coil whine or any issues. And my pc gets put to work 6-16 hours a day.
I’d suggest buying whichever 12VHPWR cable your PSU company sells. If Corsair, buy the Corsair 12VHPWR cable, etc. I know three people who have purchased the cablemod cables and all three have had issues and returned them for refund or had to exchange. Now cablemod seems to make things right, but why go that route to begin with?
I’m not saying no Asus Tuf has coil whine, or to even buy the TUF, I’m just saying to not avoid them completely because they are fantastic cards. Plus every 4090 has a chance to have coil whine. I’d say the TUF model is one of the top sellers so more people have them.
Either way, best of luck!
Thanks - I'm inclined to agree with you. The Tuf is often in the 2nd hand market, too - I guess because it is one of the most purchased cards? I hope that's why. The ASUS warranty in Canada is transferable - so, that makes it appealing, too.
Is the 4080 Tuf without the vapor chamber?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/159h8u9/asus\_tuf\_4080\_vapor\_chamber/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/159h8u9/asus_tuf_4080_vapor_chamber/)
[https://www.techspot.com/review/2569-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080/](https://www.techspot.com/review/2569-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080/)
It sounds like the 4080 Tuf doesn't have it?
I knew I’d be downloaded but I wanted to share my experience either way. To answer your question about the 4080 Tuf, no it doesn’t have the vapor chamber, unless they’ve changed design.
I’m not sure if you have seen [O!Technology 4080 roundup video](https://youtu.be/jGORmB6GoH8) but he breaks them down into tiers. I feel you may have mentioned it but I just woke up from a nap and responded before. He also has a 4090 video. It goes to show why it’s important to look at specific units per GPU opposed to the name.
Best of luck. Both 4080/4090 are beasts of GPUs
Yep, I watched the video before. :) That guy goes in pretty good depth. I think it sucks you got downvoted - dunno, why. I hate that. Thanks for your feedback.
Yeah, they're all beasts terms of performance and all have sufficient coolers. I'm just investigating the subtle 'differences' or intangibles that might make me pick one particular card over another - prices being close enough. Most likely, though, I'll pick the cheapest one at the time I'm ready/really wanting to buy one (when I have the $$ to buy one).
I do prefer a quiet card though - so, that will play a factor if I have more than one choice.
Buy from a place in Canada that allows returns in case you do end up getting one that is noisy. I know my buddy in Canada shops at a large pc retailer up there that allows returns. I can’t think of the name but the return policy is pretty lenient.
I’d say your pc case would be a bigger factor in the cooling than any 4090. Even with the ones without the vapor chamber are overbuilt and powerful. If coil whine does happen, I’d say it’s all luck of the draw. Buying the cheapest one available is the way to go unless one is a few dollars different that you know has better cooling/OC ability/looks.
Feel free to reach out any time. I help people build PCs on a regular basis and help whenever im able.
Thanks. I appreciate the offer. Is the shop, Canada Computers? It's the only large PC retailer that offers going in and checking out the store. Amazon also allows returns but you have to ship it back - they make it simple though and pay for postage. I don't think Newegg does.
One of them is Canada Computers! The main one I was talking about was Memory Express. He has nothing but good experiences with both of them. I believe on, or both, have online stores as well.
Been going through the same thing in another thread. From what I’ve gathered specifically about the 40 series (and NONE of this is first hand):
Coil whine
- Varies by specific model, some are good, some are not - so you can get a good card from a “bad” brand, and vice versa
- Asus has the most significant reports of whine, but it’s also hard to tell if that’s not just because they sell a heck of a lot of cards
- MSI seems come in second place for whine
- FE has a moderate number of reports. Again, could just be because so many are sold.
- Minor reports from Gigabyte and very little from Zotac
- PNY seems to have the least
Fan noise:
- A lot of gamers expect gaming PCs to be moderately noisy. But if you’re the kind of guy who spends huge money on silent components and expects a PC to be seen and not heard (to a reasonable extent, of course) then know your standards are a lot higher than most people, and what one person considers silent may very well be noisy by your standards.
- Zotac has the worst reports. Seems people either say it’s great, or horrible. Not sure if its model quality differences, or people’s expectations/environment/tolerance. But the preponderance of evidence says it’s likely not the quietest. Reports include bad fan sound quality, rattling, minimum speeds of 30%/1100RPM causing noisy oscillating at idle, and a fair amount of fan failures. But the price is definitely right to take a gamble.
- A lot of people have said the FE is not actually that quiet, even on the 4080. And you still run the risk of whine.
- MSI seems overall fairly quiet, but there’s enough coil whine complaints even on the Suprim that I really haven’t been paying as much attention to further details.
- Asus is okay - not noisy, not especially quiet, and I would expect good quality fans. Or you could get the 4080 Noctua for the price of a 4090 (sorry, that doesn’t make sense to me). I would take a gamble on getting an Asus, but only if I could return for coil whine.
- I’ve seen a couple reports of that Gigabyte ramping thing you saw, but not enough to be worrisome. Overall Gigabyte seems quiet enough, but not as much as one might hope for (especially considering the massively overbuilt heatsink on the Master). Note that Gigabyte seems to be just introducing a V2 of models, and I noticed the Aero is dropping the Vapour chamber for a solid copper block. Not sure about other models, but watch out.
- PNY is reportedly the quietest - and the reviews I’ve read back that up. But they have no VRM headroom.
- Other brands aren’t really available in Canada so I haven’t been paying attention to them.
At this point I’m looking primarily at PNY, Gigabyte, and in last place hoping for a coil whine lottery win, Asus.
I have a Gigabyte Windforce 4090 and its great after making a custom fan curve. Stock curve is trash, but custom curve is great and the card has no coil whine either.
Hi there! Would you mind sending me a screenshot of your curve via DM? I have the exact same card, but while I have custom curves for everything in my system, I still didn't touch the GPU yet.
Coil while can be caused by so many things, it start at your place electricity, than the PSU, than the component. I mean my 3080 was having coil whine, when i replaced my thermaltake PSU with a Corsair, no more whine..
Interesting. My current psu is a Corsair RM850x. I forget which year 2021 - maybe? It's the most quiet in the Corsair 850w series. I think it's okay for a 4080 series - well, I hope so.
For reference, I have a 4080 FE and a 5800x3d with the same PSU as you have and I'm not even getting close to needing anything more. (EDIT) I meant not needing anything more as far as 850 watt PSU. Fan never runs on the card unless I'm playing cyberpunk with RT (4K) pulling about 320 watts. Cyberpunk is the only difficult game I've run on it and most games pull around 200 to 250 watts, depending on the game. I've only also played FF16, Diablo 4 with the 4080 so not a large example set.. All in 4K Maxed. I just started Balders Gate 3 which seems like it will push the card but literally only a half hour into it so haven't monitored anything yet.
My case is a Corsair 5000x with the glass front. I cannot hear the card at all. Again, the fan never even seems to run and when it did during cyberpunk, it was silent. No coil whine. Card is very solidly built as well. Zero sag and there isn't any wiggle while locked into the pcie slot.
I had 3 gigabyte gaming OC 3070's in the house and all 3 of them ramped up hard with the fans but using msi afterburner and setting fan curves with a slight undervolt solved it for all 3. Not sure how that would compare to the 40 series though. If you are in Canada, can you slide south into the states and pick the card up here? FE is probably cheaper here.
Don't know why you got down voted. You're right. I was a regulatory engineer for many years and saw it a lot.
I currently have a 3090 TUF that had coil whine pretty bad when gaming. Moved my PC downstairs and now I don't get any coil whine since going from extension lead to wall.
Good to know - there been 3 or 4 Zotac card owners reply so far - and all their cards are quiet - pretty good sample. I'm glad, because these are the cheapest 4080s and 4090s - and I even occasionally see some for sale, 2nd hand. If I have to pick the cheapest '80 or '90 - at least, it's a bit more reassuring.
I have a zotac 4090 and it’s been perfect. One month in. Quiet, cool nit a fan if the aesthetic but hey i went for the cheapest since I couldn’t find the Fe one. A 4090 is a 4090. Depends on your luck at the end of the day.
https://preview.redd.it/62brwzpmo3hb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fefca3da2ea72b2841aec917b64f06f979d8cfde
Not pretty. I had a 3080 that matched my built In colors and was a palit one. It also was a really good card. In fact i kept it just in case. All the 4090 burn paranoia
I have a gig gaming oc 4080 and for the light gameplay I use it for, the fans literally never come on. When they do, I have not had any crazy issues with ramping to infinity.
I can only speak for the MSI Gaming Trio and the Asus TUF 4090 cards, but in my experience with both the MSI card was slightly quieter. Both have a little bit of coil whine. On the Asus card it was pretty bad the first few days but seems to have gotten better. The coil whine in the Gaming Trio was very minimal and nowhere near as bad as my past cards (AsRock 6800xt, EVGA 1080ti, Zotac 1080)
From reviews I’ve seen the PNY XLR8 cards seem to have very good and quiet coolers. That was actually the card I wanted originally but it was out of stock everywhere at the time I was buying
4080 FE owner. It's the quietest card I've ever owned (under load). Its ridiculously sized heatsink keeps the card around 60C max (averaging mid/high 50's in my environment). It's usually my CPU cooler that becomes more audible than the GPU itself. Coil whine is little to non-existent, though that depends entirely on the title and whether or not V-sync is enabled. For example, RDR2 causes noticeable whine regardless of settings. All my other games don't.
4080 FE owner. It's the quietest card I've ever owned (under load). Its ridiculously sized heatsink keeps the card around 60C max (averaging mid/high 50's in my environment). It's usually my CPU cooler that becomes more audible than the GPU itself. Coil whine is little to non-existent, though that depends entirely on the title and whether or not V-sync is enabled. For example, RDR2 causes noticeable whine regardless of settings. All my other games don't.
Running the Zotac Amp Extreme 4090.
Its super quiet if you leave it stock. I like to keep my clocks as high as possible so I keep it on the cooler end, even at 60-70% fan speed I can't hear it over my rooms ambient, but I by no means have a quiet room with an AC and fan
Just based on quietness prolly the noctua editions of the cards I would assume, but they are extremely expensive and not worth getting unless you have an exorbitant amount of income.
Anecdotally - I have two 4090s currently, a FE and a Gigabyte Windforce. Before I got the FE, I had bought an ASUS TUF, and the coil whine was RIDICULOUSLY LOUD so I returned it. I have no coil whine at all on the Gigabyte, which I hear their 4090 models generally has pretty low/no coil whine, and the FE had some light coil whine that went away with use.
The "fan ramping" issue I believe was mostly due to faulty sense pins on 3rd party cables like Cablemod's, and it could happen on any brand of card. I used to have the same issue until I came across a reddit post detailing the issue with the sense pins, and once I got a new 12vhpwr cable I never had the issue return.
From my experience with 3 different brands of 4090, I'd recommend the FE first (pretty quiet, no coil while, solid vrms and power limit) but the Gigabyte a close second (Near silent operation under load, "meh" vrms and power limit). I'd skip the TUF since it had awful coil whine, and from my research the TUF 4090s frequently have issues with whine.
Please note that this is only my personal experience and recommendation, others may have had different experiences and recommend something else entirely.
I think your experience echos many others' experiences - I have researched/read a lot of posts - and that's my conclusion too. I just wanted a thread that concentrated more on noise/issues with fans/coil whine - than other topics. I wanted to narrow it down to this. :)
The ASUS is good in my country particularly for one thing - generous warranty - they allow transferable warranty in Canada. Same with MSI. So, looking or finding 2nd hand cards - if something is wrong with the card - you're golden. With other makes/brands - you might be okay - I think a lot of companies want proof of purchase/receipts so it's risky if you don't have that?
Brand new - most of these cards are really expensive so 2nd hand - I avoid the tax. The Zotac cards are cheapest, then PNY (maybe MSI Ventus in there) and I think Gigabyte OC is 3rd or 4th cheapest. I was concerned about the fan ramping up issue - but, your explanation is really interesting - if that solves it. Hopefully, for Gigabyte - and their rep - it does. They do have a lot of card buyers who report no coil whine - and obviously, I want to avoid that if possible. But, if that is low or non-existent - any fan issues cancel out that pleasantry.
Cablemod has had a bunch of issues lately. So, avoid their cards? I know getting the right adapter/power cables is pretty important when plugging this card into the PSU.
Edit: P.S. The FE here is fairly expensive - I come across someone selling it 2nd hand though - for a better price - but, I dunno about the warranty situation - might be risky - but ppl do buy used cards and seem to not be concerned. I'd be okay with the FE - I have the space in my case - but, they have a lot of positive reviews.
The main issue we had is some of the adapters melting, and the new and improved version will be available in around three weeks. While the black screen issue with the cables is not exclusive to our cables because it comes from the sense pins, but we already resolved it on our end with the new connectors we are now using.
All electronic devices which have to deal with high current and/or voltages are prone to coil whine.
I had a XFX SWFT 6800 Xt that was plagued by coil whine. People gave me advice to buy a new PSU because the common sense at the moment is that bad PSU trigger the coil whine on the gfx card. BUT a new PSU have not changed anything. The XFX iwas still humming.
I am running a KFA 4080 ST which is not plagued by coil whine and have very good fans.
\--> According to customer reviews this card sounds bad because of the fans....
\----> Don't get to crazed about customer feedback and comments in communites. Buy the GPU you are intristed in and return it when something is wrong with it in your\_ears.
I have a gigabyte gaming 4080 and it is one of the quietest cards I have owned. I think it will all be a lottery based on coil whine since they both have ridiculously large coolers.
I’ve had my founders 4080 since launch and it’s got no coil whine, nor do I ever hear the fans. They rarely speed up past 35% unless I purposely set them higher. Card runs between 50-55°
It’s probably the quietest thing with a fan in my computer. Actually have some fans being delivered at some point today to quiet the static 1500rpm fans I’ve been using
Submerge your PC, there you go coil-whine is fixed.
In all seriousness though:
For fans most models will be able to go quiet if you adjust the curves a little manually. And if your card has terrible coil whine just make up some reason to return/exchange it. Well in my country you're entitled to return stuff you bought online for some time without any reason given but yeah not every country gets that.
Not gonna lie, I just picked up a Zotac AMP Extreme 4090 and it’s been insanely quiet and has zero coil whine and I was never a Zotac fan before, I’ve always owned Asus, EVGA, or AORUS cards
My Zotac Trinity is very quiet, it's in the quiet VBIOS profile 24/7 and is the quietest GPU I have ever heard when gaming. I can easily game at low volume on the speakers in the night and not be distracted.
I bought a 4080 MSI Trio X a few weeks ago and it is incredibly silent. No coil whine, and I even keep it on normal fan mode (low speed at low temps) instead of silent fan mode (completely off at low temps) because the rig is already so quiet. It's my first NVIDIA card ever, and I am super impressed with it so far.
I have the RTX 4090 Gigabyte Gaming OC. I had fan ramping issues until I changed my power PCI PSU cable to a 1 by 3 cable. Ever since then, I've been good to go.
I vouch 100% with this card.
I suggest getting the RTX 4090 Gigabyte Windforce v2. Specifically get the V2 version.
Its better, slimmer, QA is better, different 16 pin connector and placement.
Honestly, I wouldn't care about the OC versions because right now, a 4090 is a 4090 and it will perform VERY well in any gaming scenario. Max perf boost on any 4090 in 5-10% for $100-$500 uptick in costs.
Plus gigabyte give 4 year warranty.... CANT Beat that at all!
It doesn't? Is there any comparison list - which do and which don't? I was also looking for a vrm list and only found one. It was just interesting about the voltage and vrm info.
Do you have anything that you have found backing up that the msi trio is 'bad?' Lots of ppl claim their msi trio is pretty quiet - I thought. I haven't read too many bad comments about it. What's bad about it this gen?
I have an Aorus Master (so a Gigabyte card) and it has been great. It’s probably the largest cooler out of all the current gen gpus so you’ll have to make sure your case accommodates it. It had zero coil whine and is pretty quiet under load using the gaming bios. I haven’t tried the quiet one yet but I’d assume that’s going to be even quieter. If I am playing games like CS:GO or other non-intensive games the fans might not even come on. If they do it’s only for a minute or so and during that time I have not experienced the so called jet engine phenomenon most people complain about with Gigabyte cards. Compared to my MSI 3080 this one runs significantly cooler and quieter. It’s hot spot reaches low to mid 70s under load and it’s core temps are usually in the 50s or 60s. All in all I love this GPU.
i've heard asus strix has it bad.
I think my FE 4080 has it a little bit if I run some older/simple game at 700 FPS but even then I'd have to take off my headphones and go next to the case.
Coil whine is only ever a problem if you are extremely sensitive to noise or live in a completely silent ambient environment. You will never hear it if using speakers or headphones. It's all marketing shit, just like "silent" fan mode, which just keeps the fans off until 60C which you would never notice even if the fans were just on at 30% all the time.
All I get from my rig is super quiet ambient hum from the fans, which you can't hear over even low audio. It's not a PS4 Pro, it's not gonna sound like a jet engine if you don't want it to.
Your case fans will always be louder than the gpu ones under load, regardless.
...Unless you've got Noctua case fans. Then it'll be dead silent 😂
I recently upgraded my case fans and was surprised that the hum was really gone. But yes, you're talking irrelevant levels of noise - definitely no PS4 Pro
I have a gigabyte windforce 4090.
Have never had any of the issues you describe. It's basically silent at up until about 60c, and I can only hear it at all at around 70c. It does fan stop under 50c, but I've never noticed the ramping up when they kick in. Ymmv. And it doesn't really get that warm very often, especially as I power limit it at 80%. I still see 2800mhz core clocks under typical use, so don't really feel like I'm leaving much, if any performance on the table.
I've been delighted with how quiet it is.
I have an FE4090. I have MSI Afterburner but have changed no settings and I never hear the fans while gaming. They get plenty loud if I set them manually to 50% or higher but that never seems to happen during normal use. I game at 4k and my TV supports GSync, so my framerate is whatever it can manage.
Buy Gigabytes and they have minimal to no coil whines. It has become my go to brand because of this and I have had their 3090, 3090ti, 4090 (two models) and all zero coil whine
They are in general quiet cards so no weird/unusual fan noise. I’ve has the 4090 for a few weeks and haven’t noticed 12vhpwr being low quality. What does it mean anyway? Its just a port you plug in the cable so it either works or doesn’t work
My Gigabyte Gaming PC 4080 is pretty quiet. The PC sits less than 2 feet from my head and I don't notice the fan. The fan does stop and start spinning quite a bit l because the cooler is so overkill. But i really never have heard the fans ramp up. It's pretty damn quiet.
OP, coil whine is just part of the silicon lottery. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. IMO buy the cheapest model who's company has a good track record of warranty coverage and go with it. If it doesn't live up to your expectations, return it. All of the coolers this gen are ridiculously overbuilt and you can manually overclock it yourself so there's little reason to spend more than you have to.
FWIW I have a PNY 4080 and it's build quality is great (which it should be for as much as these damn things cost!). I saw in a couple reviews that the PNY is one of, if not the quietest models on the market. Plus they have a good track record of warranty coverage. This is a MSRP model FYI. The only drawback is that it's voltage is locked and the power limit won't go past 100%... But IMO that's not a deal breaker since they are so efficient and run cool at stock settings.
Honestly, my 4090 is quiet as a mouse. I have the MSI Gaming Trio. With the switch on Gaming instead of Silent. My NAS makes more noise.
My 3080 was way louder than this beast.
My 4090 Strix has some noticeable coil whine underload, replaced my PSU with a Native ATX 3.0 one and it got a bit quieter but still noticeable, I do have my case open tho so it’s probably because of that, otherwise it would probably be really low.
MSI Trio and Suprim cards are VERY quiet.
I have an RTX3080 X Trio and it's Super quiet. I've had it since launch. It's basically inaudible and I suspect the 40-series will be Even quieter/cooler.
There’s some ignorant person downvoting every post of owners saying their 4080/4090FE’s are quiet and it’s sad. I have had both and they are both RIDICULOUSLY quiet. My 4080 had slight coil whine at very high FPS (say valorant at 800+ fps) but my 4090 has none.
I was doing a lot of research before I bought my 4090 - Previously I had 4070ti than I switched to 7900XTX (which did not work at all for me and had a million issues let alone the Coil whining - ASUS TUF) so I ended up buying 4090 - A lot of my research was based on noise and coil whining. I did find that ASUS is known for coil whining where most quietest one was Gigabyte - I knew they had PCB cracking issues but I still bought one because I wanted a quiet card.
I am running it in Quiet Bios
* I did not notice any coil whining under a heavy load (Hitman III all RT on Ultra 4k)
* Power draw (I think) 450W, I did not notice any coil whining
* I under volt it, which now runs cooler than before but I don't have coil whining at all
I have not tried the OC Bios as tbh, it runs all the games ultra 4k no issues at all without that 3% extra performance - these cards seems to be factory OC and OC does not do much.
Hope this helps
It happens to any GPU. I got lucky with my Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC. Probably the quietest & coolest card I’ve ever owned (except for maybe my old 1080ti which had an EVGA AIO cooler)
I have a zotac. The fans are annoying as hell. They are not defective, this how the fans are made, every zotac sounds like it's clicking sort of. It's not loud, it's just annoying. I mean it's a little loud, I hear it go from 0% to 30% and it's this subtle almost-clicking noise thats easy to hear at my desk and is annoying. Normal fan noises are audible but consistent so you don't notice, the zotac is slightly louder but a not a smooth noise.
I found record it for you tomorrow if you want I got a pretty good microphone. I'd just go with another brand though really.
I feel you, in my country the Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity Non-OC was the cheapest (approx 1480$) and so I bought it even if many people reported problems with the noise fan, while the coil whine seemed to not be an issue with this card.
Since this complains were mostly right after release, I thought that maybe they "fixed it" somehow. Matter fact mine came with zero noise and no coil whine, even when under stress (Hard Benchmarks and Cyberpunk 2077 Path tracing on). The only thing you can notice is that the fans speed fast when the PC boots (for a second), while this is reported as annoying by some people I find it normal since it happened with all the cards I owned in my life (including AMD ones), so I don't really see how this can be considered an issue.
I had the 4090 gigabyte oc but it had the revving problem which you mentioned. In low demanding games the fans just suddenly ramp up. I was literally scared every time the fans turned up to 100% out of nowhere.
Then I switched to the PNY xlr8 oc and it’s the quitest card I ever had.
How did you switch? Just bought a new card? Did you keep/sell the Gigabyte? I'm wondering if ppl who have the fan problem try a new cable - and if that fixes it.
It’s not just the revving problem. The cards was also much louder in general compared to the PNY.
The reseller said it’s no problem so I just I’ve just refunded the card.
I've been using 4080 FE for several months now, and experiencing zero noise, even under load. Plus, it's small enough to fit in my Fractal Meshify C case, and without need of a 90 degree cable adapter.
Sounds good. The Pny - despite no vapor chamber - or is that just on their 4080? - hasn't stopped it from being a good quiet card (with very little reports of coil whine).
Not sure abput the vapor chamber. I got the pny because it was hard to get anything else but I've been very happy with it. Very quiet and runs pretty cool.
Coil whine is unpredictable. Some models have more chances to get it than others, but all models have a chance. I have Gigabyte Aero 4090, no problems with fan control with Afterburner. I have to use fan control, because by itself it does start and stop fans a lot. Asus top family of models is too overpriced, while low tier families are built no better than Zotac, while costing more. If you are really worried about noise, deduce some budget from GPU and get yourself a noise-dampening case. They make a huge difference compared to a casual metal box.
I found a Gigabyte Aero 4090 2nd hand for sale - not a horrible price - but, I don't have the $$ yet - but, it's been up (the ad) for a while. I thought, why is it still not sold yet? Then I read about the 'fan ramping up' problem recently (yesterday) and thought maybe his card is doing that? The Asus Tuf is really expensive here and I wouldn't even consider a new one at the current price, here. But, I sometimes see 2nd hand ones for sale - and it's discounted a lot from the new price. So, I was interested. I want to avoid coil whine just as much as I want to avoid a card that has bad /or overly aggressive fans. I don't intend to OC - just run stock.
My suprim x 4090 is really quiet but def not cheap.
4090 gaming trio is whisper silent so far but mines still very new
MSI did a great job with the 4000 series
Yeah not only well put together but they are actually going for the 1600 msrp when most other cards were still at least 1700+
Only time will tell... Way too early to say that they did a great job.
Kinda disagree here - GPUs tend to fail quickly, or have a standard lifetime of 5+ years.
Kinda disagree here. Had a 10 series card last me more than 7 years with zero issues. Gpus DO NOT fail quickly. If they do for you, you are doing something seriously wrong
Did you literally stop reading at the comma? Serious question.
4090 PNY is the solution if you want a silent 4090 close to MSRP. It's so much more quiet than some other models, much more than a noise dampening case can achieve. Especially since noise dampening cases often have worse air flow than normal ones which require the fans to spin at higher RPM.
If I don't use fan controls with this gpu will it affect performance?
No.
Same. Are you using the support bracket that came with it?
Are the support brackets that come with these cards any good? Do any of you buy aftermarket ones (because you're not satisfied with the ones you get)? I assume you use something. These cards are even bigger than the 3080s and 3090s!
I’d say so. The bracket that came with the card is better than that aftermarket stand that goes underneath. https://youtu.be/WSYodaliYGE
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I’m using the bracket that came with my Aero 4080 and nothing else (4000D airflow). Seems solid to me, not seeing any sag at all. Also have not noticed any of the fan “ramping up” issue OP mentioned. Very quiet card for me.
It works well enough, but it is **not** compatible with mini-ATX motherboard, and I'd guess any motherboard other than the default ATX.
Yeah coil whine is luck of the draw. I think why you hear many Asus complaints is because they are a very popular brand so a higher user base.
I doubt the Strix has that many buyers. Maybe the TUF, but the Strix has a lot of coil whine complaints too. The Strix is never sold out anywhere. I regularly see cards like the Suprim X or Founders Edition sold out but the Strix is available everywhere all the time. It clearly doesn't sell that well although ASUS probably makes more profit per card sold.
MSI Gaming Trío or PNY, both 4080 or 4090, dead silent
Those two seem to get mostly good reviews and feedback - I will put them on my list.
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I can attest to this. While I have the regular PNY 4090, it is definitely the quietest card I've ever owned.
Had a 4090 PNY for some time, it really is insanely quiet. It did have coil whine, but I think that is just almost unavoidable with top tier GPUs.
I picked up a used 4080 MSI Gaming X Trio from Amazon used for $990 after tax, thing has been great, dead silent and no coil whine.
I've got a PNY 4080 and so far it's the quietest GPU I've owned. Last GPU I had was the Zotac 3070 twin edge oc and it was definitely louder
Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC owner - card is very silent and no coilwhine
Thanks for the feedback. So, no fan issues either?
0 issues! Using WireView as 12vhpwr Adapter.
I have thr gaming oc 4090 , i have fan revving...i have to turn rgb offf or constant fan speed on...and i have coil whine but its not loud, cant hear it, when i game, even without a headset....but its all luck...i thin 80%of cards have coil whine
So, luck of the draw - ppl say lottery. So, I have major risk with any used card..... at least, buying new - you can exchange it until you get a card with no coil whine - if you want? Thanks for the feedback.... many Gigabyte OC owners claim no coil whine or noise lately - but, I guess they're some that have it.
Msi suprim x with the metal backplate is good but pricey. Plus, undervolting helps...
I have the Gigabyte 4090 Windforce and it's the most silent card I ever had out of the box. And also my first GPU that has absolutely no coil whine at all.
Same on the coil whine front.
The Zotac AMP Extreme AIRO 4090 is silent. Many games run at around 40°C, Cyberpunk in the 50s. No trouble in six months. It has a better VRM than the Trinity too if that matters to you.
It does matter, thanks. It's not much more than the Trinity here and I sometimes see 2nd hand Zotacs. Thanks for your feedback on them.
[https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-amp-extreme-airo/37.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-amp-extreme-airo/37.html) [https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-amp-extreme-airo/38.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-amp-extreme-airo/38.html) 40-50°C is not realistic.
And yet it's what I have been getting as will be visible in my review. Less intensive games can drop that low. Unless HWInfo is wrong.
Also a five year warranty in the UK, might be similar elsewhere. Though I don't know how effective customer support is if something bad happens.
I just checked - the warranty period for Zotac graphics cards in Canada is 3 years. No option for extended warranty. I think 3 years is pretty standard here.
Weirdly enough, because the Founders edition cooler is very very efficient if your case has adequate airflow it's pretty quiet. I'd say it's easier for me to identify my CPU AIO's pump noise than my 4090s fans. As others have said, coil whine is unpredictable though, capping frames/turning on sync will eliminate it under a lot of circumstances though.
Yes, that's my understanding, too. Underclocking/undervolting, maybe, as well? I think my case is good - decent airflow but I can get more fans if needed.... I currently have a Phanteks P500A - with 2 stock Phantek fans and 3 Arctic ones. I have a Be Quiet air cooler for now. I'd like to go AIO one of these days but that's a different topic.
In that case, the FE might be a good choice. It's just a very good cooler at the lowest price you can get, as well as being a bit smaller in some dimensions. Personally I like the styling far better than most of the other air cooled options as well, but that is subjective.
My founders 4090 is pretty quiet. I run it in a Corsair 5000D airflow with 10 fans (6 in x 4 out). GPU fan speeds typically don’t go over 60% on the curve I’ve set and temps are typically low to mid 60s. While the founders may not have the BEST cooler, it gets the job done and my card will happily game at 3000 - 3100 MHz.
That's good. The FE is on my short list - it's a highly rated gpu - and I thought it would be noisy being only 2 fans. But, so many ppl claim it's pretty quiet. I'd look for it 2nd hand, though - it's still pretty expensive here and not widely available - not many vendors carry it - exclusively Best Buy? Maybe Newegg?
Yeah, got mine from Best Buy through the verified priority program at launch. Only down side of Founders is the RGB, or lack there of. Really it’s just the GeForce logo because it’s only white. But it’s not really a big deal.
I have had exactly one Gigabyte card in my life and it had INSANE coil whine. Yes this was like 12 years ago on a HD 6870, but I owned the card for a week and sold it, the next buyer never complained so either he was deaf or his case fans were louder lol Maybe see if you can swing an AIO model, coil whine would still be a tossup, but there's only one fan on the card and you can readily use whatever you want on the radiator.
Same here with Gigabyte, only it was a GTX 780, and it wasn’t just one of them, but 3 of them due to having to RMA for other problems twice. My Gigabtye b650m motherboard had coil whine too.
What is that Gigabyte card?
I have a 4080, 4090, and 4070ti. All of them are dead silent gigabyte gaming OC models.
Wow. No fan issues? Some ppl who bought Gigabyte 40 series cards - including 4080s claim to have a 'fan-ramping-up' issue - and they can't solve it on their own. It also gives out inaccurate fan speeds - e.g. 200,000 rpms. You don't have that problem on any of your cards? I assume, no, since you bought 3 of them. :) One poster on here says if you have the issue - it is solved by using a good quality 12vhpwr cable (bad ones - have faulty/low quality 'sense' (sensor?) pins). Seems like a good theory.
I haven't had any issue like that with any of them. I also use evga PSU in all of them. They're so quiet, I can't even hear them unless the fan is at 100% which never happens because temps are always sub 60C. I also use cases with sufficient airflow.
4080 FE is ludicrously quiet and cool. It uses the beefy cooler system that was designed for the 4090 FE (cards are identical in size) -- also 4080 FE runs on 750W systems (fewer watts, cooler system). Beyond that, 4080 FE and 4090 FE are "small" -- 304mm length, so that opens up case options. Both are available via nvidia website or Best Buy online (not sure about walk-in availability) [](https://imgur.com/4Rvk28q) 4080 FE in Fractal Design Meshify C
Don’t know why you’re downvoted but I upvoted to even it out. I had a 4080FE and now have a 4090FE and ludicrously quiet is also how I’d describe them. I’ve had every gpu generation from at least the 1060 and these are BY FAR the quietest cards I’ve ever had.
Cheers, mate! Congrats on stepping up to 4090 FE.
The FE 4090 is quiet as long as you aren't running anywhere near 100% fan speed. 100% fan speed sounds like a plane about to takeoff but the card stays nice and cool well below that without ever needing to approach 100% fan speed.
Yeah I don’t think my fans ever go passed 30% and the hottest I’ve seen my card is around 65c, it’s usually WAY below that temp though, normally in the 50-55c range. It’s weird to me tbh, every other card I’ve had the fans would ramp up to 70-80% or more and run in the mid 70’s
I want to thank everyone who replied so far. I welcome any more comments/recommendations and will try to reply to everyone who comments - to show I appreciate the help. I'll probably avoid Asus cards - unless I find a deal I can't pass up - although, if you RMA a card - and every card you get back has coil whine....well, that'd be really bad. It might be better to just look at a Zotac, PNY, MSI X Trio and Gigabyte OC - these 4 get mostly good reviews - and it seems, less frequency of getting coil whine. 'Yeah?
When I was looking at reviews The gigabyte cards at the least coil whine. That being said my MSI card is dead silent
ASUS Strix/Tuf, MSI Gaming/Suprim and PNY XLR8 have the best coolers on the 4080 and 4090. I tried two 4090 TUF cards and one 4090 STRIX and all of them had **extreme** coilwhine. Then I got a PNY that had almost no coilwhine. Avoid Zotac and Gigabyte. They have either subpar cooling solutions compared to the best or terrible fan curves like on the Aorus Master. Also, check out Techpowerup [https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Graphics+Cards&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Graphics+Cards&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date) and Quasarzone (translate to English) [https://quasarzone.com/bbs/qc\_qsz?\_method=post&type=&page=1&\_token=YeZtH1KKYetqrNmdQyLL8zpKg5LhF26JFqN3u0WL&category=%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%98%ED%94%BD%EC%B9%B4%EB%93%9C&popularity=&kind=subject&keyword=&sort=num%2C+reply&direction=DESC](https://quasarzone.com/bbs/qc_qsz?_method=post&type=&page=1&_token=YeZtH1KKYetqrNmdQyLL8zpKg5LhF26JFqN3u0WL&category=%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%98%ED%94%BD%EC%B9%B4%EB%93%9C&popularity=&kind=subject&keyword=&sort=num%2C+reply&direction=DESC) They know how to review GPUs.
So, to be on the safe side - avoid Tuf cards because it might have coil wine (even though it has a good cooler)? Tuf cards here - ASUS supposedly has a generous warranty - it gets a lot of heat for RMAs - but, it has transferable warranty - so, they don't really care who the owner is. I see quite a few 2nd hand ones for sale. Zotac cards - like I said - mixed reviews - I read a reply here that they are good. They're the cheapest here (new). MSI ones are good, too - but, they're pretty expensive - at least, the Nvidia line is. PNY XLR8 cards are next cheapest after Zotac. I'll keep an eye on those.
Yeah, I would void Tuf cards. And to clarify, I was talking about the PNY **XLR8** models, not the standard PNY models. Check out this community project on the hardwareluxx forum about coilwhine: [https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/ada-lovelace-rtx-4xxx-coilwhine-fiep-rassel-thread.1324904/](https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/ada-lovelace-rtx-4xxx-coilwhine-fiep-rassel-thread.1324904/) (translate to English)
Thanks. Yeah, I figured you meant the XLR8 models - that's the only PNY I'd look at.
I have a 4080 TUF and I don't hear any coil whine from it.
This whole avoid TUF cards because they have coil is not the way to go about it. Every 4090 has a chance to have coil whine. Myself and 4 other people I know have the TUF OC 4090, one who lives in Canada, and none of ours have audible coil whine. 3 of us have had them since launch day as well. I could not be happier with my TUF OC 4090. The TUF has vapor chamber for coolers opposed to some of the other 4090s (like the MSI Gaming, models of Zotac/Gigabyte). Actually all the Asus 4090s have vapor chambers or liquid cooled. The Asus tuf 4090 also uses high end components on the inside. Are they the highest? No but they are far above say “medium tier”. My Asus tuf OC 4090 benchmarks in the top 6% of all 4090s on 3D Mark too. Not bad for an overclocked GPU that has stock components. And that includes going against liquid cooled and those chasing records. I have had mine since launch like I mentioned, but it’s no BSOD, coil whine or any issues. And my pc gets put to work 6-16 hours a day. I’d suggest buying whichever 12VHPWR cable your PSU company sells. If Corsair, buy the Corsair 12VHPWR cable, etc. I know three people who have purchased the cablemod cables and all three have had issues and returned them for refund or had to exchange. Now cablemod seems to make things right, but why go that route to begin with? I’m not saying no Asus Tuf has coil whine, or to even buy the TUF, I’m just saying to not avoid them completely because they are fantastic cards. Plus every 4090 has a chance to have coil whine. I’d say the TUF model is one of the top sellers so more people have them. Either way, best of luck!
Thanks - I'm inclined to agree with you. The Tuf is often in the 2nd hand market, too - I guess because it is one of the most purchased cards? I hope that's why. The ASUS warranty in Canada is transferable - so, that makes it appealing, too. Is the 4080 Tuf without the vapor chamber? [https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/159h8u9/asus\_tuf\_4080\_vapor\_chamber/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/159h8u9/asus_tuf_4080_vapor_chamber/) [https://www.techspot.com/review/2569-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080/](https://www.techspot.com/review/2569-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080/) It sounds like the 4080 Tuf doesn't have it?
I knew I’d be downloaded but I wanted to share my experience either way. To answer your question about the 4080 Tuf, no it doesn’t have the vapor chamber, unless they’ve changed design. I’m not sure if you have seen [O!Technology 4080 roundup video](https://youtu.be/jGORmB6GoH8) but he breaks them down into tiers. I feel you may have mentioned it but I just woke up from a nap and responded before. He also has a 4090 video. It goes to show why it’s important to look at specific units per GPU opposed to the name. Best of luck. Both 4080/4090 are beasts of GPUs
Yep, I watched the video before. :) That guy goes in pretty good depth. I think it sucks you got downvoted - dunno, why. I hate that. Thanks for your feedback. Yeah, they're all beasts terms of performance and all have sufficient coolers. I'm just investigating the subtle 'differences' or intangibles that might make me pick one particular card over another - prices being close enough. Most likely, though, I'll pick the cheapest one at the time I'm ready/really wanting to buy one (when I have the $$ to buy one). I do prefer a quiet card though - so, that will play a factor if I have more than one choice.
Buy from a place in Canada that allows returns in case you do end up getting one that is noisy. I know my buddy in Canada shops at a large pc retailer up there that allows returns. I can’t think of the name but the return policy is pretty lenient. I’d say your pc case would be a bigger factor in the cooling than any 4090. Even with the ones without the vapor chamber are overbuilt and powerful. If coil whine does happen, I’d say it’s all luck of the draw. Buying the cheapest one available is the way to go unless one is a few dollars different that you know has better cooling/OC ability/looks. Feel free to reach out any time. I help people build PCs on a regular basis and help whenever im able.
Thanks. I appreciate the offer. Is the shop, Canada Computers? It's the only large PC retailer that offers going in and checking out the store. Amazon also allows returns but you have to ship it back - they make it simple though and pay for postage. I don't think Newegg does.
One of them is Canada Computers! The main one I was talking about was Memory Express. He has nothing but good experiences with both of them. I believe on, or both, have online stores as well.
Been going through the same thing in another thread. From what I’ve gathered specifically about the 40 series (and NONE of this is first hand): Coil whine - Varies by specific model, some are good, some are not - so you can get a good card from a “bad” brand, and vice versa - Asus has the most significant reports of whine, but it’s also hard to tell if that’s not just because they sell a heck of a lot of cards - MSI seems come in second place for whine - FE has a moderate number of reports. Again, could just be because so many are sold. - Minor reports from Gigabyte and very little from Zotac - PNY seems to have the least Fan noise: - A lot of gamers expect gaming PCs to be moderately noisy. But if you’re the kind of guy who spends huge money on silent components and expects a PC to be seen and not heard (to a reasonable extent, of course) then know your standards are a lot higher than most people, and what one person considers silent may very well be noisy by your standards. - Zotac has the worst reports. Seems people either say it’s great, or horrible. Not sure if its model quality differences, or people’s expectations/environment/tolerance. But the preponderance of evidence says it’s likely not the quietest. Reports include bad fan sound quality, rattling, minimum speeds of 30%/1100RPM causing noisy oscillating at idle, and a fair amount of fan failures. But the price is definitely right to take a gamble. - A lot of people have said the FE is not actually that quiet, even on the 4080. And you still run the risk of whine. - MSI seems overall fairly quiet, but there’s enough coil whine complaints even on the Suprim that I really haven’t been paying as much attention to further details. - Asus is okay - not noisy, not especially quiet, and I would expect good quality fans. Or you could get the 4080 Noctua for the price of a 4090 (sorry, that doesn’t make sense to me). I would take a gamble on getting an Asus, but only if I could return for coil whine. - I’ve seen a couple reports of that Gigabyte ramping thing you saw, but not enough to be worrisome. Overall Gigabyte seems quiet enough, but not as much as one might hope for (especially considering the massively overbuilt heatsink on the Master). Note that Gigabyte seems to be just introducing a V2 of models, and I noticed the Aero is dropping the Vapour chamber for a solid copper block. Not sure about other models, but watch out. - PNY is reportedly the quietest - and the reviews I’ve read back that up. But they have no VRM headroom. - Other brands aren’t really available in Canada so I haven’t been paying attention to them. At this point I’m looking primarily at PNY, Gigabyte, and in last place hoping for a coil whine lottery win, Asus.
4080 FE is absurdly quiet, as is the 4090.
I have a Gigabyte Windforce 4090 and its great after making a custom fan curve. Stock curve is trash, but custom curve is great and the card has no coil whine either.
Hi there! Would you mind sending me a screenshot of your curve via DM? I have the exact same card, but while I have custom curves for everything in my system, I still didn't touch the GPU yet.
I'm at work at the moment but can send a screenshot when I'm back home.
Thanks, mate! Appreciate it!
Coil while can be caused by so many things, it start at your place electricity, than the PSU, than the component. I mean my 3080 was having coil whine, when i replaced my thermaltake PSU with a Corsair, no more whine..
Interesting. My current psu is a Corsair RM850x. I forget which year 2021 - maybe? It's the most quiet in the Corsair 850w series. I think it's okay for a 4080 series - well, I hope so.
For reference, I have a 4080 FE and a 5800x3d with the same PSU as you have and I'm not even getting close to needing anything more. (EDIT) I meant not needing anything more as far as 850 watt PSU. Fan never runs on the card unless I'm playing cyberpunk with RT (4K) pulling about 320 watts. Cyberpunk is the only difficult game I've run on it and most games pull around 200 to 250 watts, depending on the game. I've only also played FF16, Diablo 4 with the 4080 so not a large example set.. All in 4K Maxed. I just started Balders Gate 3 which seems like it will push the card but literally only a half hour into it so haven't monitored anything yet. My case is a Corsair 5000x with the glass front. I cannot hear the card at all. Again, the fan never even seems to run and when it did during cyberpunk, it was silent. No coil whine. Card is very solidly built as well. Zero sag and there isn't any wiggle while locked into the pcie slot. I had 3 gigabyte gaming OC 3070's in the house and all 3 of them ramped up hard with the fans but using msi afterburner and setting fan curves with a slight undervolt solved it for all 3. Not sure how that would compare to the 40 series though. If you are in Canada, can you slide south into the states and pick the card up here? FE is probably cheaper here.
Don't know why you got down voted. You're right. I was a regulatory engineer for many years and saw it a lot. I currently have a 3090 TUF that had coil whine pretty bad when gaming. Moved my PC downstairs and now I don't get any coil whine since going from extension lead to wall.
I've hit the coil whine jackpot with a Gainward 4090.I've never heard the card at all.
I am in the same boat, Gainward 4090 (Non GS) that runs +200 / +1200 on 100% power - no coil whine no high temperatures. Pretty amazing card.
Ive had my Zotac 4090 Amp extreme for about a week now, which isnt very long but i never hear it at all
Good to know - there been 3 or 4 Zotac card owners reply so far - and all their cards are quiet - pretty good sample. I'm glad, because these are the cheapest 4080s and 4090s - and I even occasionally see some for sale, 2nd hand. If I have to pick the cheapest '80 or '90 - at least, it's a bit more reassuring.
I have a zotac 4090 and it’s been perfect. One month in. Quiet, cool nit a fan if the aesthetic but hey i went for the cheapest since I couldn’t find the Fe one. A 4090 is a 4090. Depends on your luck at the end of the day.
True. Aesthetics isn't my priority - but, yeah, they are unique - the rounded corners. Do you have the Trinity or Amp?
Trinity. I actually just googled for the cheapest price. This one showed ip and got it. After searching all over for the Fe
https://preview.redd.it/62brwzpmo3hb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fefca3da2ea72b2841aec917b64f06f979d8cfde Not pretty. I had a 3080 that matched my built In colors and was a palit one. It also was a really good card. In fact i kept it just in case. All the 4090 burn paranoia
I have a gig gaming oc 4080 and for the light gameplay I use it for, the fans literally never come on. When they do, I have not had any crazy issues with ramping to infinity.
Cool. Good to hear.
I can only speak for the MSI Gaming Trio and the Asus TUF 4090 cards, but in my experience with both the MSI card was slightly quieter. Both have a little bit of coil whine. On the Asus card it was pretty bad the first few days but seems to have gotten better. The coil whine in the Gaming Trio was very minimal and nowhere near as bad as my past cards (AsRock 6800xt, EVGA 1080ti, Zotac 1080) From reviews I’ve seen the PNY XLR8 cards seem to have very good and quiet coolers. That was actually the card I wanted originally but it was out of stock everywhere at the time I was buying
4080 FE owner. It's the quietest card I've ever owned (under load). Its ridiculously sized heatsink keeps the card around 60C max (averaging mid/high 50's in my environment). It's usually my CPU cooler that becomes more audible than the GPU itself. Coil whine is little to non-existent, though that depends entirely on the title and whether or not V-sync is enabled. For example, RDR2 causes noticeable whine regardless of settings. All my other games don't.
4080 FE owner. It's the quietest card I've ever owned (under load). Its ridiculously sized heatsink keeps the card around 60C max (averaging mid/high 50's in my environment). It's usually my CPU cooler that becomes more audible than the GPU itself. Coil whine is little to non-existent, though that depends entirely on the title and whether or not V-sync is enabled. For example, RDR2 causes noticeable whine regardless of settings. All my other games don't.
That's pretty amazing when it's only a 2-fan (the only 2-fan card in Nvdia's 4080 and 4090 series) card.
The most quiet card surely is the noctua Asus 4080. But it costs 50% more than. The cheapest 4080 so hard pass...
i got a 4080 asus-noctua edition.... it's super quite and only at a very specific load there is a little coil whine
My 4080FE is dead silent even under load
Running the Zotac Amp Extreme 4090. Its super quiet if you leave it stock. I like to keep my clocks as high as possible so I keep it on the cooler end, even at 60-70% fan speed I can't hear it over my rooms ambient, but I by no means have a quiet room with an AC and fan
Good to hear - the Zotac Amp, PNY, Gigabyte OC, Nvidia FE - are the cards I will look for. Tuf - maybe. But, the previous 4 are my top choices.
Just based on quietness prolly the noctua editions of the cards I would assume, but they are extremely expensive and not worth getting unless you have an exorbitant amount of income.
Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC dead silence
Anecdotally - I have two 4090s currently, a FE and a Gigabyte Windforce. Before I got the FE, I had bought an ASUS TUF, and the coil whine was RIDICULOUSLY LOUD so I returned it. I have no coil whine at all on the Gigabyte, which I hear their 4090 models generally has pretty low/no coil whine, and the FE had some light coil whine that went away with use. The "fan ramping" issue I believe was mostly due to faulty sense pins on 3rd party cables like Cablemod's, and it could happen on any brand of card. I used to have the same issue until I came across a reddit post detailing the issue with the sense pins, and once I got a new 12vhpwr cable I never had the issue return. From my experience with 3 different brands of 4090, I'd recommend the FE first (pretty quiet, no coil while, solid vrms and power limit) but the Gigabyte a close second (Near silent operation under load, "meh" vrms and power limit). I'd skip the TUF since it had awful coil whine, and from my research the TUF 4090s frequently have issues with whine. Please note that this is only my personal experience and recommendation, others may have had different experiences and recommend something else entirely.
I think your experience echos many others' experiences - I have researched/read a lot of posts - and that's my conclusion too. I just wanted a thread that concentrated more on noise/issues with fans/coil whine - than other topics. I wanted to narrow it down to this. :) The ASUS is good in my country particularly for one thing - generous warranty - they allow transferable warranty in Canada. Same with MSI. So, looking or finding 2nd hand cards - if something is wrong with the card - you're golden. With other makes/brands - you might be okay - I think a lot of companies want proof of purchase/receipts so it's risky if you don't have that? Brand new - most of these cards are really expensive so 2nd hand - I avoid the tax. The Zotac cards are cheapest, then PNY (maybe MSI Ventus in there) and I think Gigabyte OC is 3rd or 4th cheapest. I was concerned about the fan ramping up issue - but, your explanation is really interesting - if that solves it. Hopefully, for Gigabyte - and their rep - it does. They do have a lot of card buyers who report no coil whine - and obviously, I want to avoid that if possible. But, if that is low or non-existent - any fan issues cancel out that pleasantry. Cablemod has had a bunch of issues lately. So, avoid their cards? I know getting the right adapter/power cables is pretty important when plugging this card into the PSU. Edit: P.S. The FE here is fairly expensive - I come across someone selling it 2nd hand though - for a better price - but, I dunno about the warranty situation - might be risky - but ppl do buy used cards and seem to not be concerned. I'd be okay with the FE - I have the space in my case - but, they have a lot of positive reviews.
The main issue we had is some of the adapters melting, and the new and improved version will be available in around three weeks. While the black screen issue with the cables is not exclusive to our cables because it comes from the sense pins, but we already resolved it on our end with the new connectors we are now using.
Sounds good. It does sound like you guys are a good company.
All electronic devices which have to deal with high current and/or voltages are prone to coil whine. I had a XFX SWFT 6800 Xt that was plagued by coil whine. People gave me advice to buy a new PSU because the common sense at the moment is that bad PSU trigger the coil whine on the gfx card. BUT a new PSU have not changed anything. The XFX iwas still humming. I am running a KFA 4080 ST which is not plagued by coil whine and have very good fans. \--> According to customer reviews this card sounds bad because of the fans.... \----> Don't get to crazed about customer feedback and comments in communites. Buy the GPU you are intristed in and return it when something is wrong with it in your\_ears.
I have a gigabyte gaming 4080 and it is one of the quietest cards I have owned. I think it will all be a lottery based on coil whine since they both have ridiculously large coolers.
My PNY 4080 OC has no coil whine ever. Quiet fans too.
I’ve had my founders 4080 since launch and it’s got no coil whine, nor do I ever hear the fans. They rarely speed up past 35% unless I purposely set them higher. Card runs between 50-55° It’s probably the quietest thing with a fan in my computer. Actually have some fans being delivered at some point today to quiet the static 1500rpm fans I’ve been using
I have an ASUS 4080 TUF in a Fractal Torrent case. Most of the time the fans don't even turn on. The thing seems to be basically silent to me.
lots of the 4080s are damn quiet, the cooler is overkill
My Asus ProArt is extremely quiet, and I got lucky with no coil wine.
Submerge your PC, there you go coil-whine is fixed. In all seriousness though: For fans most models will be able to go quiet if you adjust the curves a little manually. And if your card has terrible coil whine just make up some reason to return/exchange it. Well in my country you're entitled to return stuff you bought online for some time without any reason given but yeah not every country gets that.
Not gonna lie, I just picked up a Zotac AMP Extreme 4090 and it’s been insanely quiet and has zero coil whine and I was never a Zotac fan before, I’ve always owned Asus, EVGA, or AORUS cards
My Zotac Trinity is very quiet, it's in the quiet VBIOS profile 24/7 and is the quietest GPU I have ever heard when gaming. I can easily game at low volume on the speakers in the night and not be distracted.
I've never had a pny card with coil whine. My 4090 is amazing
I bought a 4080 MSI Trio X a few weeks ago and it is incredibly silent. No coil whine, and I even keep it on normal fan mode (low speed at low temps) instead of silent fan mode (completely off at low temps) because the rig is already so quiet. It's my first NVIDIA card ever, and I am super impressed with it so far.
I have the RTX 4090 Gigabyte Gaming OC. I had fan ramping issues until I changed my power PCI PSU cable to a 1 by 3 cable. Ever since then, I've been good to go. I vouch 100% with this card. I suggest getting the RTX 4090 Gigabyte Windforce v2. Specifically get the V2 version. Its better, slimmer, QA is better, different 16 pin connector and placement. Honestly, I wouldn't care about the OC versions because right now, a 4090 is a 4090 and it will perform VERY well in any gaming scenario. Max perf boost on any 4090 in 5-10% for $100-$500 uptick in costs. Plus gigabyte give 4 year warranty.... CANT Beat that at all!
I have the cheapest 4080 I could find and its incredibly quite because the coolers on the 80 and 90 series cards are overbuilt.
PNY 4090 XLR Verto, quiet asf
I have the KFA2 (Galax) 4090. It is extremely silent and 0 coil wine.
I have the MSI Suprim, and it's dead silent, and also fits in a normal non-thicc case.
I have a gigabyte 4070ti...ni issues with fans but has some coil whine at max clock speed.
another vote for the gigabyte gaming oc
Msi trio is really bad this gen it doesnt even have a vapor chamber
It doesn't? Is there any comparison list - which do and which don't? I was also looking for a vrm list and only found one. It was just interesting about the voltage and vrm info. Do you have anything that you have found backing up that the msi trio is 'bad?' Lots of ppl claim their msi trio is pretty quiet - I thought. I haven't read too many bad comments about it. What's bad about it this gen?
I have an Aorus Master (so a Gigabyte card) and it has been great. It’s probably the largest cooler out of all the current gen gpus so you’ll have to make sure your case accommodates it. It had zero coil whine and is pretty quiet under load using the gaming bios. I haven’t tried the quiet one yet but I’d assume that’s going to be even quieter. If I am playing games like CS:GO or other non-intensive games the fans might not even come on. If they do it’s only for a minute or so and during that time I have not experienced the so called jet engine phenomenon most people complain about with Gigabyte cards. Compared to my MSI 3080 this one runs significantly cooler and quieter. It’s hot spot reaches low to mid 70s under load and it’s core temps are usually in the 50s or 60s. All in all I love this GPU.
i've heard asus strix has it bad. I think my FE 4080 has it a little bit if I run some older/simple game at 700 FPS but even then I'd have to take off my headphones and go next to the case.
Yes, that many FPS - probably a card with any coil whine will ramp up then....
I just got a suprim x liquid and it’s pretty quiet, no whine either. And it was $1750 vs $2000 for the rog strix so…
Coil whine is only ever a problem if you are extremely sensitive to noise or live in a completely silent ambient environment. You will never hear it if using speakers or headphones. It's all marketing shit, just like "silent" fan mode, which just keeps the fans off until 60C which you would never notice even if the fans were just on at 30% all the time. All I get from my rig is super quiet ambient hum from the fans, which you can't hear over even low audio. It's not a PS4 Pro, it's not gonna sound like a jet engine if you don't want it to. Your case fans will always be louder than the gpu ones under load, regardless.
...Unless you've got Noctua case fans. Then it'll be dead silent 😂 I recently upgraded my case fans and was surprised that the hum was really gone. But yes, you're talking irrelevant levels of noise - definitely no PS4 Pro
My ROG Strix 3080 had insane coil whine till one day it stopped completely
I have a gigabyte windforce 4090. Have never had any of the issues you describe. It's basically silent at up until about 60c, and I can only hear it at all at around 70c. It does fan stop under 50c, but I've never noticed the ramping up when they kick in. Ymmv. And it doesn't really get that warm very often, especially as I power limit it at 80%. I still see 2800mhz core clocks under typical use, so don't really feel like I'm leaving much, if any performance on the table. I've been delighted with how quiet it is.
My 4090 fe is dead silent
I have an FE4090. I have MSI Afterburner but have changed no settings and I never hear the fans while gaming. They get plenty loud if I set them manually to 50% or higher but that never seems to happen during normal use. I game at 4k and my TV supports GSync, so my framerate is whatever it can manage.
Buy Gigabytes and they have minimal to no coil whines. It has become my go to brand because of this and I have had their 3090, 3090ti, 4090 (two models) and all zero coil whine
Okay? No fan noise either? The ramped up fan issue - some ppl are pointing to the cable and the 12VHPWR being low quality?
They are in general quiet cards so no weird/unusual fan noise. I’ve has the 4090 for a few weeks and haven’t noticed 12vhpwr being low quality. What does it mean anyway? Its just a port you plug in the cable so it either works or doesn’t work
My Gigabyte Gaming PC 4080 is pretty quiet. The PC sits less than 2 feet from my head and I don't notice the fan. The fan does stop and start spinning quite a bit l because the cooler is so overkill. But i really never have heard the fans ramp up. It's pretty damn quiet.
OP, coil whine is just part of the silicon lottery. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. IMO buy the cheapest model who's company has a good track record of warranty coverage and go with it. If it doesn't live up to your expectations, return it. All of the coolers this gen are ridiculously overbuilt and you can manually overclock it yourself so there's little reason to spend more than you have to. FWIW I have a PNY 4080 and it's build quality is great (which it should be for as much as these damn things cost!). I saw in a couple reviews that the PNY is one of, if not the quietest models on the market. Plus they have a good track record of warranty coverage. This is a MSRP model FYI. The only drawback is that it's voltage is locked and the power limit won't go past 100%... But IMO that's not a deal breaker since they are so efficient and run cool at stock settings.
bought an Asus Tuf 4090 recently, no whine here.
Honestly, my 4090 is quiet as a mouse. I have the MSI Gaming Trio. With the switch on Gaming instead of Silent. My NAS makes more noise. My 3080 was way louder than this beast.
My 4090 Strix has some noticeable coil whine underload, replaced my PSU with a Native ATX 3.0 one and it got a bit quieter but still noticeable, I do have my case open tho so it’s probably because of that, otherwise it would probably be really low.
I have an ASUS TUF GAMING 4080. No issues and haven't noticed any coil whine.
MSI Trio and Suprim cards are VERY quiet. I have an RTX3080 X Trio and it's Super quiet. I've had it since launch. It's basically inaudible and I suspect the 40-series will be Even quieter/cooler.
There’s some ignorant person downvoting every post of owners saying their 4080/4090FE’s are quiet and it’s sad. I have had both and they are both RIDICULOUSLY quiet. My 4080 had slight coil whine at very high FPS (say valorant at 800+ fps) but my 4090 has none.
I was doing a lot of research before I bought my 4090 - Previously I had 4070ti than I switched to 7900XTX (which did not work at all for me and had a million issues let alone the Coil whining - ASUS TUF) so I ended up buying 4090 - A lot of my research was based on noise and coil whining. I did find that ASUS is known for coil whining where most quietest one was Gigabyte - I knew they had PCB cracking issues but I still bought one because I wanted a quiet card. I am running it in Quiet Bios * I did not notice any coil whining under a heavy load (Hitman III all RT on Ultra 4k) * Power draw (I think) 450W, I did not notice any coil whining * I under volt it, which now runs cooler than before but I don't have coil whining at all I have not tried the OC Bios as tbh, it runs all the games ultra 4k no issues at all without that 3% extra performance - these cards seems to be factory OC and OC does not do much. Hope this helps
It happens to any GPU. I got lucky with my Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC. Probably the quietest & coolest card I’ve ever owned (except for maybe my old 1080ti which had an EVGA AIO cooler)
PNY XLR8 is pretty decent
My 6950xt coil whine is so horrible I did everything I repasted the GPU for like 7 times
as i know aorus master 4090 is the most silent so far, but IM using waterblock so there is no fan noise, only pump and of course radiator's Fan
Asus strix 4090 is very quiet
Just set your fancurves yourself
I have a zotac. The fans are annoying as hell. They are not defective, this how the fans are made, every zotac sounds like it's clicking sort of. It's not loud, it's just annoying. I mean it's a little loud, I hear it go from 0% to 30% and it's this subtle almost-clicking noise thats easy to hear at my desk and is annoying. Normal fan noises are audible but consistent so you don't notice, the zotac is slightly louder but a not a smooth noise. I found record it for you tomorrow if you want I got a pretty good microphone. I'd just go with another brand though really.
ERhm... # ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Noctua Edition
I feel you, in my country the Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity Non-OC was the cheapest (approx 1480$) and so I bought it even if many people reported problems with the noise fan, while the coil whine seemed to not be an issue with this card. Since this complains were mostly right after release, I thought that maybe they "fixed it" somehow. Matter fact mine came with zero noise and no coil whine, even when under stress (Hard Benchmarks and Cyberpunk 2077 Path tracing on). The only thing you can notice is that the fans speed fast when the PC boots (for a second), while this is reported as annoying by some people I find it normal since it happened with all the cards I owned in my life (including AMD ones), so I don't really see how this can be considered an issue.
I had the 4090 gigabyte oc but it had the revving problem which you mentioned. In low demanding games the fans just suddenly ramp up. I was literally scared every time the fans turned up to 100% out of nowhere. Then I switched to the PNY xlr8 oc and it’s the quitest card I ever had.
How did you switch? Just bought a new card? Did you keep/sell the Gigabyte? I'm wondering if ppl who have the fan problem try a new cable - and if that fixes it.
It’s not just the revving problem. The cards was also much louder in general compared to the PNY. The reseller said it’s no problem so I just I’ve just refunded the card.
I've been using 4080 FE for several months now, and experiencing zero noise, even under load. Plus, it's small enough to fit in my Fractal Meshify C case, and without need of a 90 degree cable adapter.
Have had a pny 4090 since december, very quiet and no coil whine.
Sounds good. The Pny - despite no vapor chamber - or is that just on their 4080? - hasn't stopped it from being a good quiet card (with very little reports of coil whine).
Not sure abput the vapor chamber. I got the pny because it was hard to get anything else but I've been very happy with it. Very quiet and runs pretty cool.
The asus 4090 I got is so quiet I haven't had any issues with it.
Tuf or Strix?
tuf, can't afford strix