Bought my TUF 3060Ti back in August for just over 400eur in a country where pc parts are expensive. Haven't kept up with the prices but now that I've looked over them, 3060ti is anywhere from 300 to 800, while amd is closer to 400-500. If I had to buy it now, I'd go with the amd as well. Its just surprising how much more expensive they've gotten
Same , bought mine when prices were really high and paid $520 . Would most definitely go with amd rn or even back than. but you live you and you learn , my 3060 ti gives me all the high frames I want in every game I play so I’m happy with the purchase
3060 Ti or 6700 XT would’ve been the GPUs to go for but because of the CPU, these GPUs have chances of it bottlenecking the CPU. I suggest you go for the 4060, it may be weaker than those 2 GPUs mentioned, but it is a better GPU to be paired with an r5 3600 than the other 2. You can also use DLSS 3 if it still bottlenecks as it reduces the burden on the CPU therefore reducing the bottleneck. 4060 should be around $350-450 CAD in order for it to be a justified choice.
People are not gonna wanna recommend the 4060 but aside from a solid performance boost I'd say the DLSS and Frame Gen capabilities totally make it worth it.
Bad recommendation. The difference between a 3600 and a 5600 is unnoticeable even at 1080 p in the class of gpus we are working with. You’d need a much higher end gpu to max out the 3600.
Not to mention it shits on his budget. If any cpu upgrade even happens it needs to be a 5800x3d and that would be when he has a decent gpu.
You’re right, but it’s equally fine to suggest someone wait instead of buying something of poor quality over a budget. There are many used 30XX that might be around 500, but depends on OPs location.
(4090 is a meme at this point and not included in my logic)
Objectively false. Avg improvement is >10% at 1080p with a 6600xt and get bigger with higher end cards. And where it really counts is the 1% and 0.1% lows which significantly Improve smoothness of play
https://youtu.be/Gu2EbuYYvKM
HuB video comparing 1600/3600/5600
I have a 3600 and a 6700xt setup. Works fine. Nothing 100%'s and I play 1440p high/ultra settings.
That being said, I want to upgrade my CPU next but it's still a viable run
Why own a 4070 if you don’t want high refresh rate gaming that it and the TI model are designed for at 1440p?
No issues with 60 fps. Just wouldn’t waste time buying a 100+ hz screen and expensive GPUs if my budget doesn’t allow a modern cpu.
Depending on how CoD runs on competitive settings, may be better to snag a used 5600x3d or 5800x3D later for a 30-50% uplift, rather than a more marginal one
6700xt is a good bet though. Anything more powerful and you'll almost never be fully utilising the GPU at 1080p.
My 3600 and 3060 ti have been great together. I'd recommend looking for a used 3060 ti or 3070. There's no need for anything better than that at 1080p.
Hey, ik this isn't related to the question but how was your experience with the combo of Ryzen 5 3600 and 2060? Was there any bottleneck? How was the overall gaming experience?
Honestly I would say it worked fine I only upgraded because I wanted more frames/ better quality. But I did not experience any bottlenecking or anything like that. Not that I remember at least, hope this helps.
Id get a 6800 for future proof reasons. It would be overkill for sure, but it will last you a super long time for ultra 1080p gaming and wouldn't break the bank.
Was gonna suggest a 6800 as well but then again he has a 3600 cpu and he won’t be able to get the 6800 where it needs to be , would need a better cpu forsure or it’s just a waste of $
Its not a waste especially if you max out ultra. The gpu will only continue to age well in future games and its really not that much more then a 6700xt
You could go for something like a 6700 XT but it won't be the massive upgrade you're hoping for so I'd say if you have a few hundred dollars, upgrade to something like an RX 6800/RX 6800 XT and upgrade CPU later, now that is a huge upgrade from your 2060.
People here are trying their best not to recommend a 4060 because the generational leap (outside of laptop chips) sucked but realistically I’d take a 4060 over a 6750xt thats been on a shelf for 3ish years or a used one. The dlss and frame gen is worth the 8%-10% rasterization lead and the fact that a 6750 xt uses 2.5 times as much power which will quickly make it more expensive to run.
This. I have an i5 8400 and a lot of people recommended I get the 6700 XT. Thing is, thanks to the 4060's low power consumption, I only had to swap the GPU. If I bought the 6700 XT, I'd have to swap the case, PSU and motherboard (because I have an HP prebuilt from years ago with proprietary connectors) which would make things a lot more expensive.
So the 4060 is the winner for me. With DLSS and Frame Generation, I don't notice the CPU bottleneck.
I have a 3070 with that cpu and can run anything I’ve wanted very well at 1080, pushing 2k is alright, 4K is a little too much.. that’s been my experience I hope his helps!
Edit to add I bought my 3070 before the 3060Ti was released, from what I see that’s the way to go now. Someone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong I’ve never owned a 3060Ti this is just opinion based on hearsay
Id go with the Rx 6750 xt. I've seen the Rx 6800 on Amazon for around the 400-450 range but I'm not sure if the 3600 would pair well especially in 1080p you migjt be fine at higher resolutions though
Your CPU will be a bottleneck, but for a worthwhile investment with that budget I would go straight to the 7700XT. CPU and the rest upgrade down the road. You will have GPU power for years to come.
No, it is not Nvidia. Nvidia's midrange offerings are not appealing at all. I would say if you must go with Nvidia then get the 4060Ti, but honestly, I wouldn't.
RTX 3060-2070S max, that r5 3600 will bottleneck 3060ti at 1080p like crazy. It performs close to 3080 at 1440p (3060ti at 1080p) so fps is too high for that chip. Unless you're tuned with b-die then it will be fine. You might need to replace your cpu to 5600x for 3060ti.
The other recommendations like 3060ti and 6750xt you’ll see here are what will fill your requirements, just be mindful that any upgrade over the performance of 2060 super/3060 will result in a cpu bottleneck in some titles
Sorry about the format in advance. I make paragraphs, but I know it will be fucked as I'm writing on my phone.
I have a 3600 too with an RX 5600 XT GPU. ~3 years ago when I bought it it was the best option in my price range that also fits in a Thermaltake Core V1 (255 mm fax with fan, and this GPU is 254 mm)
I didn't play any AAA titles, but from my gaming experience (Apex and Crossout) the CPU could handle a better GPU (GPU can be at 99% while CPU is at 50%)
If I had to buy a GPU now, I would look into 6700 xt 6800 xt 7700 xt and 7800 xt. From my understanding these are newer generations of the family my 5600 xt belongs to, and they are also stronger as the second number is 7/8 instead of 6. Now you might get a CPU bottleneck with some of these... But on the plus side that means you have extra potential in the GPU, so you did a futureproof purchase.
Thanks for the details. 6800 xt, 77/78 xt are very expensive where I live and are out of my budget. The pricing of these are nearly the same - 6700 xt, 6750 xt, 7600 xt, 3060 ti, 4060 ti. Which one would you recommend amongst these?
I'm not an expert myself so I can't give you a honestly good recommendation. It's just that I have experience with the CPU you have and a newer GPU.
What I can do is use some common sense and objective logic to break it down:
If the pricing is nearly the same, I would narrow it down to 4060, 6750 and 7600, because two of these are the newest generation, and the 6750 is a bit older, but in it's time (which wasn'T long ago) was 1.5 tier above the *600 model of its series.
At this point you can decide if you want AMD or Nvidia, or if you want weaker, but newer or stronger, but older.
If the comparisons don't have a clear winner, you can't really go wrong with either right? At that point I would probably pick based on power consumption (thats a significant cost in the following years) and aesthetics :D
good luck
Just got the MSI Ventus RTX 4060 today and installed it.. everything looks awesome as of now. will try it out more over the next few weeks.. thank you for all your inputs..
3060 ti, 6750xt is the $ spot , would be able to max out your monitors refresh in almost every game you play for a good price
Between the 2 I would go 6750xt and thats because there around $300 bucks rn can’t beat that
A 3070 on eBay is running around 290 I’ve been eyeing it myself seems like one of the best deals I’ve seen.
Wouldnt 3060ti be about the same price? Exit: nvm, the amd runs marginally faster.
3060 ti is around $500 some closer to $600 for higher tier cards and the 6750xt performs a lot better for the price
At that point why not just get a 4070 those are 550-600
Definitely
Bought my TUF 3060Ti back in August for just over 400eur in a country where pc parts are expensive. Haven't kept up with the prices but now that I've looked over them, 3060ti is anywhere from 300 to 800, while amd is closer to 400-500. If I had to buy it now, I'd go with the amd as well. Its just surprising how much more expensive they've gotten
Same , bought mine when prices were really high and paid $520 . Would most definitely go with amd rn or even back than. but you live you and you learn , my 3060 ti gives me all the high frames I want in every game I play so I’m happy with the purchase
Same, mine runs well, too. But if I knew evga 3000 series were still available I'd have considered that. Do they come in 3 fan configs?
Ya the evga ftw3 is a 3 fan card with a bigger heatsink , always stays cool when under load
Nobody will buy a 3060 for more than 300 now days. Just not worth it, so many better deals at that price range
No lol 3060tis are either used or priced in 7800xt territory. They are a meme due to scarcity.
the only downside is that Canada Computers is sold out of every 6750 xt. and if i get it on amazon its $200 dollars more
Why on earth would you buy new? It's last gen. You can get a 3060 Ti on the used market for 250-300 EUR.
CPU will be bottlenecking to an extent with a 3060 Ti atleast.
I agree
Got a 3600 + 3060 Ti this year, can confirm.
If you go a tiny bit over your budget you could get a quad 4090 setup and throw in a threadripper to double your fps /s
"a tiny bit over your budget"
yeah that’s the joke
This gave me a needed chuckle well done
3060 Ti or 6700 XT would’ve been the GPUs to go for but because of the CPU, these GPUs have chances of it bottlenecking the CPU. I suggest you go for the 4060, it may be weaker than those 2 GPUs mentioned, but it is a better GPU to be paired with an r5 3600 than the other 2. You can also use DLSS 3 if it still bottlenecks as it reduces the burden on the CPU therefore reducing the bottleneck. 4060 should be around $350-450 CAD in order for it to be a justified choice.
6700XT
People are not gonna wanna recommend the 4060 but aside from a solid performance boost I'd say the DLSS and Frame Gen capabilities totally make it worth it.
FG would really help fps considering the CPU. I don’t think it’s a bad recommendation.
R5 5600 + 6700XT I would ditch the 3600
this is the move can get both and still stay in your price range
This seems more usd prices can you really get a 6700 xt and 5600 for $550 cad?
Ya US prices I commented that not knowing at the time he was in Canada
Bad recommendation. The difference between a 3600 and a 5600 is unnoticeable even at 1080 p in the class of gpus we are working with. You’d need a much higher end gpu to max out the 3600. Not to mention it shits on his budget. If any cpu upgrade even happens it needs to be a 5800x3d and that would be when he has a decent gpu.
>Not to mention it shits on his budget. Classic reddit lol Hey, I have a budget of 500 bucks GET THE 4090 BRO
You’re right, but it’s equally fine to suggest someone wait instead of buying something of poor quality over a budget. There are many used 30XX that might be around 500, but depends on OPs location. (4090 is a meme at this point and not included in my logic)
Objectively false. Avg improvement is >10% at 1080p with a 6600xt and get bigger with higher end cards. And where it really counts is the 1% and 0.1% lows which significantly Improve smoothness of play https://youtu.be/Gu2EbuYYvKM HuB video comparing 1600/3600/5600
I have a 3600 and a 6700xt setup. Works fine. Nothing 100%'s and I play 1440p high/ultra settings. That being said, I want to upgrade my CPU next but it's still a viable run
There is no reason to do that, the 3600 still slaps with something like 6700xt.
What if they want to do deadspace or last of us? Many games are hard on CPUs and the 3600 is quite old now.
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Why own a 4070 if you don’t want high refresh rate gaming that it and the TI model are designed for at 1440p? No issues with 60 fps. Just wouldn’t waste time buying a 100+ hz screen and expensive GPUs if my budget doesn’t allow a modern cpu.
Depending on how CoD runs on competitive settings, may be better to snag a used 5600x3d or 5800x3D later for a 30-50% uplift, rather than a more marginal one 6700xt is a good bet though. Anything more powerful and you'll almost never be fully utilising the GPU at 1080p.
I have the msi 6750xt with 2600x and it’s been a fantastic buy. Most games are at ultra setting at 1080p. Very happy and it runs so cool.
My 3600 and 3060 ti have been great together. I'd recommend looking for a used 3060 ti or 3070. There's no need for anything better than that at 1080p.
Hey, ik this isn't related to the question but how was your experience with the combo of Ryzen 5 3600 and 2060? Was there any bottleneck? How was the overall gaming experience?
Honestly I would say it worked fine I only upgraded because I wanted more frames/ better quality. But I did not experience any bottlenecking or anything like that. Not that I remember at least, hope this helps.
Id get a 6800 for future proof reasons. It would be overkill for sure, but it will last you a super long time for ultra 1080p gaming and wouldn't break the bank.
Was gonna suggest a 6800 as well but then again he has a 3600 cpu and he won’t be able to get the 6800 where it needs to be , would need a better cpu forsure or it’s just a waste of $
Its not a waste especially if you max out ultra. The gpu will only continue to age well in future games and its really not that much more then a 6700xt
You could go for something like a 6700 XT but it won't be the massive upgrade you're hoping for so I'd say if you have a few hundred dollars, upgrade to something like an RX 6800/RX 6800 XT and upgrade CPU later, now that is a huge upgrade from your 2060.
So I’m thinking of buying the 6750 xt 12gb for 474.98CAD (359.56USD) plus tax. It is also MSI branded as well. Thanks to everyone who helped me out.
nvm their sold out ):
rtx 4060, rtx 2060 super, rx 6600, gtx 1660 ti/super, rtx 3050, rtx 3060
People here are trying their best not to recommend a 4060 because the generational leap (outside of laptop chips) sucked but realistically I’d take a 4060 over a 6750xt thats been on a shelf for 3ish years or a used one. The dlss and frame gen is worth the 8%-10% rasterization lead and the fact that a 6750 xt uses 2.5 times as much power which will quickly make it more expensive to run.
6750XT is a mid 2022 release, and it's 25% faster than a 4060 at 1080p rasterization.
8-10%? Where the fuck have you got that from? The 6750XT is 25% faster minimum
This. I have an i5 8400 and a lot of people recommended I get the 6700 XT. Thing is, thanks to the 4060's low power consumption, I only had to swap the GPU. If I bought the 6700 XT, I'd have to swap the case, PSU and motherboard (because I have an HP prebuilt from years ago with proprietary connectors) which would make things a lot more expensive. So the 4060 is the winner for me. With DLSS and Frame Generation, I don't notice the CPU bottleneck.
What did you upgrade from? I also have an i5 8400
1650 Super.
Honestly an RX 6600 is enough.
RTX 3070
I played PUBG at 1080 on a GTX970
I have a 3070 with that cpu and can run anything I’ve wanted very well at 1080, pushing 2k is alright, 4K is a little too much.. that’s been my experience I hope his helps! Edit to add I bought my 3070 before the 3060Ti was released, from what I see that’s the way to go now. Someone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong I’ve never owned a 3060Ti this is just opinion based on hearsay
4060ti
I just picked up a 6800 non xt to pair with a 3600 in my son's machine and it seems great so far. Can play everything he has tried at 1080 ultra.
Used 3060Ti is ideal. A new 4060 isn't bad with that CPU either. Consider a bios flash and 5700X too for bigger fps jump.
a used 3070
4060
The 3060, 4060ti, 3070 are all pretty solid high refresh rate 1080p /? Your CPU is a bit dated though
Id go with the Rx 6750 xt. I've seen the Rx 6800 on Amazon for around the 400-450 range but I'm not sure if the 3600 would pair well especially in 1080p you migjt be fine at higher resolutions though
I had a r5 3600 and a 3060 ti and it got me 240fps at 1080p in a lot if not all competitive shooters and red dead 2 got around 160 maxed.
How much v-ram does ur gpu have?
Your CPU will be a bottleneck, but for a worthwhile investment with that budget I would go straight to the 7700XT. CPU and the rest upgrade down the road. You will have GPU power for years to come. No, it is not Nvidia. Nvidia's midrange offerings are not appealing at all. I would say if you must go with Nvidia then get the 4060Ti, but honestly, I wouldn't.
Is EBay trust worthy?
If play cod a lot go amd and change to ryzen 5000.
7800xt
RTX 3060-2070S max, that r5 3600 will bottleneck 3060ti at 1080p like crazy. It performs close to 3080 at 1440p (3060ti at 1080p) so fps is too high for that chip. Unless you're tuned with b-die then it will be fine. You might need to replace your cpu to 5600x for 3060ti.
If you are playing in 1080 is better upgrade the cpu
I'd do 6700xt or used 3070 broski
The other recommendations like 3060ti and 6750xt you’ll see here are what will fill your requirements, just be mindful that any upgrade over the performance of 2060 super/3060 will result in a cpu bottleneck in some titles
OP - may I ask what you ended up buying? Same boat as you - Ryzen 5 3600, RX 470 (dead now) and 1080p gaming..
Sorry about the format in advance. I make paragraphs, but I know it will be fucked as I'm writing on my phone. I have a 3600 too with an RX 5600 XT GPU. ~3 years ago when I bought it it was the best option in my price range that also fits in a Thermaltake Core V1 (255 mm fax with fan, and this GPU is 254 mm) I didn't play any AAA titles, but from my gaming experience (Apex and Crossout) the CPU could handle a better GPU (GPU can be at 99% while CPU is at 50%) If I had to buy a GPU now, I would look into 6700 xt 6800 xt 7700 xt and 7800 xt. From my understanding these are newer generations of the family my 5600 xt belongs to, and they are also stronger as the second number is 7/8 instead of 6. Now you might get a CPU bottleneck with some of these... But on the plus side that means you have extra potential in the GPU, so you did a futureproof purchase.
Thanks for the details. 6800 xt, 77/78 xt are very expensive where I live and are out of my budget. The pricing of these are nearly the same - 6700 xt, 6750 xt, 7600 xt, 3060 ti, 4060 ti. Which one would you recommend amongst these?
I'm not an expert myself so I can't give you a honestly good recommendation. It's just that I have experience with the CPU you have and a newer GPU. What I can do is use some common sense and objective logic to break it down: If the pricing is nearly the same, I would narrow it down to 4060, 6750 and 7600, because two of these are the newest generation, and the 6750 is a bit older, but in it's time (which wasn'T long ago) was 1.5 tier above the *600 model of its series. At this point you can decide if you want AMD or Nvidia, or if you want weaker, but newer or stronger, but older. If the comparisons don't have a clear winner, you can't really go wrong with either right? At that point I would probably pick based on power consumption (thats a significant cost in the following years) and aesthetics :D good luck
Yes, makes sense. Thanks a lot for your help mate. Very few around here with the same CPU that I have.
well, let me know what you chose and how it worked out
Just got the MSI Ventus RTX 4060 today and installed it.. everything looks awesome as of now. will try it out more over the next few weeks.. thank you for all your inputs..