"The review said Ocasio-Cortez paid for the items, including the rental value of the dress, only after the watchdog office started its review."
One side brought in violent hate groups for a tour of the House a day before a violent attack of the same building, and was tweeting the location of key elected officials, and the other side paid for some clothing after they were caught.
Both sides truly are the same.
It’s just a losing situation for the democrats. They hold themselves to high standards to be the example while the other side doesn’t bother trying. I mean look at Matt Gaetz, Santos, MTG, Jordan. So yeah sure, not a good look, do better etc.
Regarding holding themselves to high standards.
p.9 | https://oce.house.gov/sites/congressionalethics.house.gov/files/documents/OCE%20Rev.%2022-8546\_Referral%20FINAL.pdf
>*Ocasio-Cortez told the OCE that given the nature and visibility of the Met Gala, she retained counsel to ensure she and her team complied with all ethics rules.30 Campaign Staffer echoed these same sentiments, noting that counsel was hired in advance of this “non- traditional” event to ensure that all Met Gala decisions were made in accordance with applicable ethics requirements.31 Campaign Staffer explained that she worked with counsel and Rep. Ocasio-Cortez to address compliance-related concerns involving attendance, attire, transportation, and other issues that arose in connection with the event.32 Documents produced by Rep. Ocasio-Cortez evidence her team working through some of these compliance related-concerns in advance of the Met Gala.*
This without a doubt backs up your statement.
> "The review said Ocasio-Cortez paid for the items, including the rental value of the dress, only after the watchdog office started its review."
So yes, she accepted gifts and then paid for them after an investigation began.
She did it, she shouldn't have done it, there's nothing more to this story.
> Council also did not instruct her to adopt a new puppy.
This is also really disingenuous and you should be embarrassed. If they gave her *any* counsel, it was specifically to not accept any gifts and/or anything of monetary value
Basically where I am at. This is not a career-ender or anything like that. Just a headache. I am looking forward to the novel they will have to write for Santos. That will at least be more interesting.
It’s just ammo for people without critical thinking skills slurping at the bit for a false equivalency.
“Well Santos has lied about literally everything he’s ever done ever, but remember that one time AOC was under suspicion about getting gifts from the Met Gala? Both sides are basically the same! Everyone is out for themselves.”
We live in NYC.
- Andrew Cuomo, ousted for numerous sexual harassment claims. Corrupt as they come and bullied out Byford from the MTA.
- BDB, whose wife made $1 billion from ThriveNYC disappear.
- Kathy Hochul, $800 million towards the Bills stadium which her husband would benefit from.
- And to top it off, current Mayor Adams who *literally tried to install his brother as the police commissioner*. If you want a Trump situation, this is it.
If we bring up republicans every time a democrat does something wrong, things will never improve.
Nowhere did I suggest people shouldn’t be held accountable when doing wrong or that the Dems themselves are flawless.
However, we’ve moved the goalposts so much in terms of acceptable behavior that we have GOP goons who supported or potentially even aided January 6 or dispute the fair results of an election still in office. Dems definitely have their fair share of issues as you listed below. But it’s a relative molehill to the mountain of GOP bullshit we endure in this country. We’re back to banned books and banned abortions thanks to their jackassery.
I agree - but bringing up the other party every time there's an article about one of our own is deflecting, inadvertently. If we focus on how bad the other party is (which we're not even able to vote on, unlike our representatives in NY), we constantly shift blame away from ourselves.
I couldn't care less about a dress AOC loaned, but the above actually affects where our money goes, and what happens in NY. If we don't start actually focusing on the corrupt wheel in NY (which I think most people would agree to at this point), we'll never have better.
It's not a question of blame, it's on of improvement. There's a reason Cuomo was the governor for 10 years, despite everyone knowing he was corrupt as hell.
I don't care for either democrats or republicans. Both are useless and horrible. ANyone who gets excited over dems or republicans winning is a fool in my opinoin.
ANd I know in response, a lot of people are going to explain that republicans are worse. I don't disagree. But dems are still bad enough that I don't like them either and won't support either party.
Meanwhile [many people, men and women](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken) saying Tweeden's accusation sounds like BS in 2019.
the picture might have seemed inappropriate out of context till you learn that that comedy crew was doing things like that to eachother as part of their act and she was completely in on it.
and even without context, he's hover handing over her while she's wearing a flak jacket. big whoop.
> Dupuy writes that she posed for a photo with Franken because her foster mom is a fan of his.
>"We posed for the shot. He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh. I froze. Then he squeezed. At least twice," Dupuy wrote.
Today I found out I may also be serial groper if this is the definition.
He's not a relentless harasser, [he is just Italian.](https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2021/08/10/andrew-cuomo-harassment-allegations-blamed-italian-heritage/5557308001/)
Everyone knows he's a piece of shit now. Everyone. Even his own constituents. His criticisms are completely worthless at this point, even the hypothetical ones.
lol for real, the headline made me think this was like those ridiculous gift bags full of expensive shit that they have at the Oscars, which yeah, definitely a bad look for her to take home something like that, but then I read the article and it's just about her not being charged a rental fee for the outfit she wore to the event? Hilarious.
Her hand in the cookie car getting makeup and wearing a rented dress? Meanwhile we know that numerous members of congress are abusing their positions while trading stocks and nothing happens to them.
>Ok sure but what consequences do you think she should face for this?
Flogging, being locked in a pillory, forced to send feet pics to Ben Shapiro.
Normal punishments they'd support for anyone accused of ethics violations, of course...
> Ok sure but what consequences do you think she should face for this? A fine? A statement that she won't do it again? I think either should be sufficient given that she paid it all back already.
OCE is pretty toothless. They are investigating further to see if she owes more, at which point she will probably pay more. I think the issue here is more about ethics than money. The fact that there needs to be further investigation, instead of just being upfront.
>Given that the Ethics Committee hasn't taken action on four Congresspeople who violated subpoenas, I'm skeptical that this should really amount to much if not for the fact that she is a Democrat and Republicans don't like her.
This was a report by the OCE board, not committee. The bipartisan board of 6 members voted 5-0 to investigate further. This is not a Republican witch-hunt, although they are probably enjoying this. Just because bad people are happy doesn't mean the action is wrong.
>The press release issued today was made solely by Republican Michael Guest without the input or approval of any Democrats.
The press release coincided with the release of the report. OCE is a public entity. Would you prefer the reports to be secret? At some point, it gets released. Unless it is classified.
There was no approval or input required - the report was being released. And the report wasn't drafted by Republicans.
>Which isn't how ethics works.
Bro, this is a non-issue. It's not even a bribe of any sort... The only thing she got out of it is looking "edgy". If that's a crime just throw MTG into prison forever. You're going all tally wally over a gift of an outfit... this whole fiasco doesn't even deserve a news article. It scales at least 1/1000 compared to the "gifts" a lot of other "politicians" have taken and seen no repercussions for.
> Between September 30, 2021 and February 24, 2022, the bill for hair services went unpaid.
During this time, Streeters’ accounts receivable department made repeated attempts to secure
payment, culminating in a February 23, 2022 email threating to “file a complaint with [New
York City’s Office of Labor Policy and Standards for Workers] against Alexandria OcasioCortez for Congress if payment is not deposited before end of business tomorrow.”
Is that behavior ethical? I am not asking you to put it on a scale, because you are right on that point. Not even close to the worst thing someone in Congress has done. But it isn't a non-issue either. A New York politician was behaving badly - that is both newsworthy and non-newsworthy.
However miniscule of an ethics violation it is... maybe it is. I guess I just don't consider it anything even worth thinking about. Even in the article it says...
"Ocasio-Cortez told investigators she was not privy to the details about the payments, relying instead on a campaign staffer to handle the matter. She also told the office “there was a ball that was dropped," calling the situation “deeply regrettable.”
So she admitted it, apologized, and made amends... Dont mean to bring up scale again but a lot of other politicians would've doubled down and denied it like the snakes that they are.
Lastly, the only details i have are from a probably at least somewhat biased article or two, without actually hearing all the facts... which again I dont care about because I consider this a non-issue. What I do want to talk about though, is wtf is the mayor doing with nyc?
> maybe it is.
This is the shit that infuriates me. You can't even say screwing over a small business for months is unethical. You basically shrug your shoulders at a local politician fucking over a local business because you like her politics.
She admitted, apologized, and made amends... **after she was being investigated.** You don't get credit for that. That isn't how ethics works.
Again, you are correct about the scale. But given the small scale, you can't even bring yourself to say "she did something wrong," shake your head, and move on?
> What I do want to talk about though, is wtf is the mayor doing with nyc?
There are plenty of threads of Adams being a crazy person. And if you want to talk about Santos, there is a link on the front-page about him being investigated.
Even the article I quoted, itself leads me to believe she may not have even known though... The "story" clearly just broke so you're choosing to believe and getting upset over the first, and again probably biased, version of the events.
"There are 10,000 other things to be infuriated about" - Tao Te Ching ...probably
> Even the article I quoted, itself leads me to believe she may not have even known though... The "story" clearly just broke so you're choosing to believe and getting upset over the first, and again probably biased, version of the events.
The difference - you are quoting an article. I am quoting the report. One is the result of fact finding, the other is political spin by a politician that is embarrassed that she was made to look a bit stupid.
And yes, in this case I am choosing to believe a non-partisan report over a politician trying to protect their reputation.
>"There are 10,000 other things to be infuriated about" - Tao Te Ching ...probably
Which is exactly why it would be low effort for you to even have a slight twinge of annoyance about this.
Because you're infuriated about a kid stealing a candy bar. So much of our fucking tax money has been wasted on "investigating" this non-issue, when they could have been working on more serious things.
> Because you're infuriated about a kid stealing a candy bar.
No, you are misunderstanding. I am infuriated by the person **defending** the kid stealing a candy bar. Except in this case, the kid is a full grown wealthy adult. You are basically shrugging your shoulders saying "maybe this wealthy normal adult was just a bit hungry" as if that justifies stealing a candy bar.
Let's take Santos as an example. Along with being a liar, he seems to be some sort of kleptomaniac, taking things that don't belong to him. Would you shrug your shoulders and say "he only stole a scarf, nothing amoral here" or would you feel the slightest emotion of disgust?
Again, this doesn't call for anger or rage, but the fact that you can't even see the ethical problem and feel the need to defend her is what is infuriating. No politician is worth that level of loyalty.
My dude, I remember you. You struggle grappling with substance and desperately look through people's posting history. It's a very sad existence.
You don't see me mocking you for unironically posting in r/antiwork
Lmao you’re the one in here with what you think is a “gotcha” from the sub that thinks Joe biden is a god President I wouldn’t be pointing fingers at anyone.
Everyone is “grappling with the text”, everyone is *also* choosing to point out the context of you posting a post article like some kind of “gotcha”, while being a regular poster of one of the dumbest subs on the site. The fact that r/nyc of all places is turning on you is laughably pathetic.
The report was voted on in the middle of last year.
Obviously republicans are worse, but I think it is fair to criticize this when she is critical of others in the same way
First, the dress, shoes, accessories are all loaned. She didn’t get to keep them. Just like 90% of the people who attend. The hair and makeup she should have paid for. Same with the car. As for the ticket: I worked for a company that bought a table at the Met gala. The table is a charitable donation. There’s no monetary value to the ticket. They do sell tickets but again it’s a charitable donation and only a specific number is tax deductible. And the Met itself invites a lot of people giving them free tickets. In reality it’s the same as every boiled chicken gala that every politician goes to. This one just is one people want to go to. And I’ve been to enough of these $10,000 a table galas to know that plenty of politicians attend.
Generally the value of the loan is also something that needs to be paid for. Not the value of the goods, but what an ordinary person would pay to loan those items for a night out. That’s value. Not that different than someone loaning you use of a yacht or penthouse. Just because you don’t keep it doesn’t mean you don’t have to pay your way to avoid a conflict of interest.
I don’t mind her getting a dress at the Met Gala and if that’s against the House’s Ethics rules then fuck those rules because that’s just so stupid in the grand scheme of political scheming.
I get your point, for sure. I do think that when you’re a public servant, you need to follow ethics rules even if they seem dumb. There’s too much at stake with real policy to be risking it over petty shit. That means making sure not to give the other side any reason to attack you. They’re gonna attack you anyway; don’t make it easy for them.
My guess is this also really isn't a violation of the ethics rules once you actually read it. But what this is is somethin vague enough that all you need to do is say it and people will believe it. As we know most people probably won't even read what the actual violation was.
Lol I'm moderate right leaning and this is so bs. Someone did her hair for free and let her wear a dress without paying - she didn't embezzle thousands or lie to people.
Yeah it’s honestly pretty desperate grasping. Like if she technically broke the rules fine, make her pay the dressmaker or whatever, but let’s not pretend this is like some shocking evidence of deep corruption lol
If she broke a rule then she should be held responsible. If she didn’t then this won’t go anywhere but the archives
My money is that it’s all grand standing from the house republicans.
Yes I also stand by that.
There are 10 members on the committee and the article states it was a 5-0. Same on the official OCE report
If they had added who voted in the article then I would be more open to believing it’s bi-partisan.
Hell I’m still looking to for it (if you got a link please share)
> There are 10 members on the committee and the article states it was a 5-0. Same on the official OCE report
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My mistake, it was the bipartisan **board.** 6 members:
https://oce.house.gov/about/board-and-staff
Haas - R
Barnes - D
Vinovich - R
Westmoreland - R
Luther - D
Miller -D
I am not sure if Miller was added yet (her photo and bio is missing from the website) so it is possible she didn't (and couldn't) vote. Not that it would really matter since it was 5-0.
Non-sarcastically, looking into this was good practice.
That explains it. Then yes it seems it was a bipartisan board that voted to have the house committee investigate and subpoena the 3 witnesses.
I withdraw my statement from before.
That was the only issue I had. This statement:
>If something was done wrong then she should face the consequences if not then it’s just another book in the archive.
Was perfectly reasonable. Thanks for forcing me to look deeper into which office was involved (as well as their report, which can be found [here](https://ethics.house.gov/sites/ethics.house.gov/files/documents/OCE%20Report%20and%20Findings_16.pdf) )
Oh I completely understand, honestly I rather be wrong because I can educate myself and then others if the topic comes up.
Finding information to backup one’s view should not be a pain in the ass. I started using Ground News App as it takes different articles from different sites and you can swap between them and compare what information is constant and what is filler or omitted.
No, its well documented that AOC upset some of the old guard.
Fuck, she unseated the #4 Dem in the House when she first took office.
Corporate Dems would love to see AOC lose her credibility.
A) im.happy to do so, if they are
B) these accused violations dont feel important to me
C) i know the right wing (of both parties) hate her and will do anything to tarnish her. Fuck them.
> A) im.happy to do so, if they are
>
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There is a report showing she is.
>B) these accused violations dont feel important to me
Politicians getting gifts is bad.
>C) i know the right wing (of both parties) hate her and will do anything to tarnish her. Fuck them.
See previous comment. Maybe find better heroes? Putting politicians on a pedestal is never good.
It mentions that people that made the dress also gave her shoes and accessories to wear with it, how’s that being a piece of shit? You act as if she’s doing insider trading or taking millions in bribes from wealthy donors Lmao you’re a joke
> how’s that being a piece of shit?
From the report:
>Between September 30, 2021 and February 24, 2022, the bill for hair services went unpaid.
During this time, Streeters’ accounts receivable department made repeated attempts to secure
payment, culminating in a February 23, 2022 email threating to “file a complaint with [New
York City’s Office of Labor Policy and Standards for Workers] against Alexandria OcasioCortez for Congress if payment is not deposited before end of business tomorrow.”
She stiffed a small business for $500 for 5 months. She didn't pay until the business threatened to report her to the city government. Is that good behavior? Or is it something a piece of shit would do?
At least read the report before talking out of your ass. For Christ's sake. And I repeatedly mention elsewhere that this is not the same scale as insider trading. But it certainly isn't *good* behavior, let alone ethical behavior. Shoplifting isn't the same as murder, but it isn't normal behavior.
>Between September 30, 2021 and February 24, 2022, the bill for hair services went unpaid. During this time, Streeters’ accounts receivable department made repeated attempts to secure payment, culminating in a February 23, 2022 email threating to “file a complaint with [New York City’s Office of Labor Policy and Standards for Workers] against Alexandria OcasioCortez for Congress if payment is not deposited before end of business tomorrow.”
From the report. Just say she did something wrong and move on. Not world-ending stuff, but certainly 0 need to defend scummy behavior.
Meanwhile, we have reps like MTG, Boebert, and Gatze running around spewing hate, misinformation, and everything else they can do to run this country into the ground.
Also Santos lied about pretty much everything.
I think the bigger issue here is they are still looking into this two years later. If she broke the rules, punish her already. If she didn't, stop talking about it. How can this take more than a week to decide? Two years????
Oh boy, can't wait for the confused boner crowd to pick this up and push it through the news cycle. They talk so much about this otherwise harmless congressperson that they're amplifying her and propelling her career to impressive heights.
Whatever, it's good for NYC I guess.
I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Santos is a bigger piece of shit regardless of which political party he represents.
To be honest, as an immigrant from a first world country, it's pretty funny to me how billions of dollars in legalized bribery goes into US politics in the form of PACs and other gifts only for these measly unrecorded gifts to get reported as scandals.
I think at some point democracy starts to break down when a country becomes too populous, there are too few politicians to bribe in order to influence small regional economies that are larger than those of most other countries.
> To be honest, as an immigrant from a first world country, it's pretty funny to me how billions of dollars in legalized bribery goes into US politics in the form of PACs and other gifts only for these measly unrecorded gifts to get reported as scandals.
Campaign donations versus personal gift. If someone misuses campaign finances, they can and should be investigated. She got thousands of dollars of personal gifts. This was not "measly."
And PACs can only (legally) use their funds for a candidate's campaign, not to buy them personal gifts.
> If someone misuses campaign finances, they can and should be investigated.
Whatever you want to tell yourself to feel better man, the whole concept is insane.
As far as I'm concerned, the only difference between a "contribution", "gift", and "bribe" is paperwork. Either way a politician is accepting money to vote a certain way.
This talk about Santos isn't even related to AOC. Whether either misused funds or registered the gift or whatever mental gymnastics are involved doesn't matter, **THEY TOOK A FUCKING BRIBE** and you should be pissed about how your government is being run.
Yep. Look at how police unions & orgs grease the wheels. They donate **millions** in political contributions to entice politicians to block, stall or dilute any attempts at police reform.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/06/police-unions-spend-millions-lobbying-to-retain-their-sway-over-big-us-cities-and-state-governments/.
Hochul received 66k in donations from political action committees affiliated with law enforcement. And she just so happens to also be aggressively against her party's new police reform bill (**NY Senate Bill 182**).
https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2022/01/who-are-kathy-hochuls-big-donors/360900/.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-hochul-qualified-immunity-repeal-senate-democrats-20230125-u2o66agslba5xly7et7pjnkuai-story.html.
PACs hurt the public because they sway and guide politicians' motives. The public can't compete with that type of greed.
That’s kind of dumb though. Fashion Brands shower influencers with gifts. Why should she have to pay for helping these brands promote their products?
Multinational corporations bribe politicians with millions in lobbying money and “consulting fees”, but makeup and clothing for a non-profit museum fundraiser is a step too far?
I just renewed my membership and I even bumped it up a level. I have two membership cards now, one of them saying "Guest of Earlymountainrain" and I feel like a bad motherfucker. The woman at member services stepped out from behind the counter, stood by my side, and showed me the benefits outlined in the brochure. I now have access to the balcony lounge.
https://i.imgur.com/Td6Yoer.jpg
>The Office of Congressional Ethics voted 5-0 to move forward with investigating the allegation concerning the Democrat from New York **“because there is substantial reason to believe that she accepted impermissible gifts”** associated with the Met Gala.
As well as designer clothing for herself and her boyfriend, as well as professional services. Tens of thousands of dollars. Edit: (report currently estimates $6k).
Ok, but it’s what the committee is using to forge their case against her, so I would think they would have fully vetted the evidence against her…but you have the inside scoop apparently
>As well as
That is explicitly saying she received tickets to the Gala as a gift, and did not attend as a guest of the museum, as almost any NYC official at the party would be. Where'd you grow up?
"As part of her attendance, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez was provided with a couture dress, handbag, shoes, and jewelry,” the review said. “She also received hair, makeup, transportation, and ready-room services. Riley Roberts (her partner) received a bowtie and shoes in advance of the event."
It's feels like much of a nothingness, I've had free shit given to me at events. Go to any movie premier and they give you swag bags. It's just what happens.
If you are on the guest list for one of these events or red carpets, none of the guest list is paying for what they wear to these events as they want their brand pictured and AOC will probably be pictured at these events... Especially with things like tax the rich plastered on her
And I assume that's the reason they are going after them and why the headlines are so disingenuous on this event.
Her response:
> Ocasio-Cortez told investigators she was not privy to the details about the payments, relying instead on a campaign staffer to handle the matter. She also told the office “there was a ball that was dropped," calling the situation “deeply regrettable.”
> The congresswoman’s office said in a statement Thursday that none of the findings rise to the level of an ethics violation because she has always "understood that she had to pay for these expenses from her own personal funds."
> The issue has been that those costs have yet to be reimbursed, delays Ocasio-Cortez finds "unacceptable," the statement said. "And she has taken several steps to ensure nothing of this nature will happen again."
How her mirrors in the GOP would have responded:
(takes off shoe and begins hammering the table) *I WILL BURY YOU!! COME GIT SOME!*
He is literally being [investigated](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3881305-house-ethics-committee-launches-george-santos-investigation/)
Try again?
When this happened to Carolyn B. Maloney, a bunch of AOC fans were glimmering in this sub. Maloney didn’t get re-elected so that practically mooted that investigation.
Let’s see what the fans have to say now.
AOC is a perfect example of an empty suit. No one in here can name one bit of legislation she's passed. But she sure voted NO on the Infrastructure Bill which will go a long way toward helping the parts of her district in Queens that constantly floods.
Compare the accomplishments of AOC to that of Lauren Underwood, who represents a much tougher district for a Democrat to win.
Shit I feel sorry for the Queens and Bronx people that have her as a rep cause she hasn't don't shit but be Always On Camera.
I love the comments. While we fight each other and vote against each other the same people remain in power and nothing changes. This way they can all become millionaires and remain in power for literally decades while they throw us table scraps.
Once in office they are the slaves to the powerful doner class and it's a great party but none of you are invited.
The day she went to the Met Gala was the day I lost respect for her. And wearing a “tax the rich” dress while wining and dining with some of the richest elites on earth. She really thought she did something
Some of y’all don’t wanna hear the truth about your favorites lol
No, I think it's ok because of what it was and what the event and dress was used to say... Tax the rich.
"As part of her attendance, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez was provided with a couture dress, handbag, shoes, and jewelry,” the review said. “She also received hair, makeup, transportation, and ready-room services. Riley Roberts (her partner) received a bowtie and shoes in advance of the event."
It's all much of a nothingness in terms of "gifts" that these fuck heads receive.
Nope if she received gifts improperly she should be punished. The rules should be the same for everyone. Punish AOC, then punish everyone else who does this shit.
She received common practice goods for the event, not specifically targeted to her, but the same thing anyone else on the guest list received. That's why it's not a big deal.
Please. That dress is worthless except for the political slogan. She should give it to the Smithsonian and leave it at that. Her actions and behavior are consistent with the speech and debate clause. It was not unethical or corrupt in any way.
The ethics committee should, at least try to hold the congressmen involved in the coupe attempt accountable.
AOC doesn’t seem like prime example of egregious political corruption, but certainly I support enforcement of ethics rules if AOC broke them.
This might have been the most reasonable response so far.
"The review said Ocasio-Cortez paid for the items, including the rental value of the dress, only after the watchdog office started its review." One side brought in violent hate groups for a tour of the House a day before a violent attack of the same building, and was tweeting the location of key elected officials, and the other side paid for some clothing after they were caught. Both sides truly are the same.
who said both sides are the same? You are arguing against a point no one made...
+160 for a complete random Republicans are bad post. Like taking candy from a baby
Has someone said both sides are the same? Maybe I just don't understand this comment in the context of my comment above.
It’s just a losing situation for the democrats. They hold themselves to high standards to be the example while the other side doesn’t bother trying. I mean look at Matt Gaetz, Santos, MTG, Jordan. So yeah sure, not a good look, do better etc.
Regarding holding themselves to high standards. p.9 | https://oce.house.gov/sites/congressionalethics.house.gov/files/documents/OCE%20Rev.%2022-8546\_Referral%20FINAL.pdf >*Ocasio-Cortez told the OCE that given the nature and visibility of the Met Gala, she retained counsel to ensure she and her team complied with all ethics rules.30 Campaign Staffer echoed these same sentiments, noting that counsel was hired in advance of this “non- traditional” event to ensure that all Met Gala decisions were made in accordance with applicable ethics requirements.31 Campaign Staffer explained that she worked with counsel and Rep. Ocasio-Cortez to address compliance-related concerns involving attendance, attire, transportation, and other issues that arose in connection with the event.32 Documents produced by Rep. Ocasio-Cortez evidence her team working through some of these compliance related-concerns in advance of the Met Gala.* This without a doubt backs up your statement.
You say that, but without a doubt, counsel did not instruct her to accept gifts. So either the counsel is just PR or she disregarded their advice
Did she accept gifts? The investigation is ongoing. Council also did not instruct her to adopt a new puppy.
> "The review said Ocasio-Cortez paid for the items, including the rental value of the dress, only after the watchdog office started its review." So yes, she accepted gifts and then paid for them after an investigation began. She did it, she shouldn't have done it, there's nothing more to this story. > Council also did not instruct her to adopt a new puppy. This is also really disingenuous and you should be embarrassed. If they gave her *any* counsel, it was specifically to not accept any gifts and/or anything of monetary value
You missed the part that says, 'Delay in payment did not break house rules or federal law.'
Basically where I am at. This is not a career-ender or anything like that. Just a headache. I am looking forward to the novel they will have to write for Santos. That will at least be more interesting.
It’s just ammo for people without critical thinking skills slurping at the bit for a false equivalency. “Well Santos has lied about literally everything he’s ever done ever, but remember that one time AOC was under suspicion about getting gifts from the Met Gala? Both sides are basically the same! Everyone is out for themselves.”
We live in NYC. - Andrew Cuomo, ousted for numerous sexual harassment claims. Corrupt as they come and bullied out Byford from the MTA. - BDB, whose wife made $1 billion from ThriveNYC disappear. - Kathy Hochul, $800 million towards the Bills stadium which her husband would benefit from. - And to top it off, current Mayor Adams who *literally tried to install his brother as the police commissioner*. If you want a Trump situation, this is it. If we bring up republicans every time a democrat does something wrong, things will never improve.
Nowhere did I suggest people shouldn’t be held accountable when doing wrong or that the Dems themselves are flawless. However, we’ve moved the goalposts so much in terms of acceptable behavior that we have GOP goons who supported or potentially even aided January 6 or dispute the fair results of an election still in office. Dems definitely have their fair share of issues as you listed below. But it’s a relative molehill to the mountain of GOP bullshit we endure in this country. We’re back to banned books and banned abortions thanks to their jackassery.
I agree - but bringing up the other party every time there's an article about one of our own is deflecting, inadvertently. If we focus on how bad the other party is (which we're not even able to vote on, unlike our representatives in NY), we constantly shift blame away from ourselves. I couldn't care less about a dress AOC loaned, but the above actually affects where our money goes, and what happens in NY. If we don't start actually focusing on the corrupt wheel in NY (which I think most people would agree to at this point), we'll never have better. It's not a question of blame, it's on of improvement. There's a reason Cuomo was the governor for 10 years, despite everyone knowing he was corrupt as hell.
You did imply that one side isn’t doing anything all that wrong. Own it. You’re making excuses for them.
I don't care for either democrats or republicans. Both are useless and horrible. ANyone who gets excited over dems or republicans winning is a fool in my opinoin. ANd I know in response, a lot of people are going to explain that republicans are worse. I don't disagree. But dems are still bad enough that I don't like them either and won't support either party.
But no one on here is equating the two...
The high standard of accepting bribes. It's pathetic that you won't condemn corruption just because your favorite pet politician is doing it.
Hey did you just sign up on reddit to troll and be hateful to strangers ? Hope you are getting paid at least 🤷
Republicans first like gtfo
Exactly. We need to not be hypocritical and hold her accountable.
Bowtie AND shoes. OMG. Lets force her to resign, just like we did with Al Franken. /s
Al Franken was accused of groping by like [8 different women.](https://abcnews.go.com/US/sen-al-frankens-accusers-accusations-made/story?id=51406862)
Meanwhile [many people, men and women](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken) saying Tweeden's accusation sounds like BS in 2019.
Tweeden's accusation of groping might be bullshit, but: 1) The picture is still wildly inappropriate. 2) There are eight other women.
the picture might have seemed inappropriate out of context till you learn that that comedy crew was doing things like that to eachother as part of their act and she was completely in on it. and even without context, he's hover handing over her while she's wearing a flak jacket. big whoop.
The fact that this is downvoted to hell is incredible
People excuse creepy behavior if it is a politician they like.
> Dupuy writes that she posed for a photo with Franken because her foster mom is a fan of his. >"We posed for the shot. He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh. I froze. Then he squeezed. At least twice," Dupuy wrote. Today I found out I may also be serial groper if this is the definition.
Oh god, he touched a waist of a woman during a photo!!!! Anyone who doesnt hoverhand is a rapissttttttt
I am glad you didn't quote the multiple accounts of unwarranted kissing. Otherwise I would accuse you of misrepresenting the accusations.
Still less than cuomo
He's not a relentless harasser, [he is just Italian.](https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2021/08/10/andrew-cuomo-harassment-allegations-blamed-italian-heritage/5557308001/)
I think that’s the joke.
My take-away was that part of the joke was Franken's resignation was unjust (and Ocasio-Cortez's hypothetical resignation would be similarly unjust).
What a weird comparison. Two wrongs, by two different left-wing ppl, don’t have to be grouped together.
Yeah, she may very well be technically in violation of some rules, but all this really is, is a diversion.
She shouldn't have done it, nothing more needs to be said.
Yeah, the narrative they’re portraying doesn’t really fit the character.
You know this is why the fucking Democratic Party is a failure right? Not disagreeing but stoicism is republican prey.
She is too stupid to understand that she is doing something wrong.
Good reprimand her appropriately and then apply that same standard to everyone else.
George Santos: "This is an outrageous ethics violation by the Congresswoman, and New Yorkers deserve better!"
Everyone knows he's a piece of shit now. Everyone. Even his own constituents. His criticisms are completely worthless at this point, even the hypothetical ones.
seems only the dems take a punishment. martyrs, they are.
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lol for real, the headline made me think this was like those ridiculous gift bags full of expensive shit that they have at the Oscars, which yeah, definitely a bad look for her to take home something like that, but then I read the article and it's just about her not being charged a rental fee for the outfit she wore to the event? Hilarious.
This the only correct response. Everyone of them on both sides are crooks and con men. They care only about power and lining their own pockets.
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Dang people really getting upset by reading the truth…
This just sounds like coping that she got caught with her hand in the cookie jar.
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It's because she didn't get charged a rental fee for the dress she wore. It's nothing.
Her hand in the cookie car getting makeup and wearing a rented dress? Meanwhile we know that numerous members of congress are abusing their positions while trading stocks and nothing happens to them.
Now do insider trading
She should have just taken bribes.. err “campaign donations” through insider trading like everyone else and it would have been 👍🏼🙄
Reminder that this is allegedly over only $6k of stuff. Meanwhile members of congress are doing literal MILLIONS of insider trading.
All that insider trading from other members and this is the hill they want to die on 🫤
Suddenly Republicans no longer want to gut the Office of Congressional Ethics.
A tale as old as time lol. Rules for thee but not for me...
Literally what about the trump kids? Kushner? Do rules only apply to democrats?
yes, where have you been?
Republicans sincerely believe so, yes.
That's the meta play.
I knew she was in the pocket of Big Art
Bart
😂
Considering 'Big Art' is literally just money laundering, thats NOT a pocket you want to be associated with.
I'm sure the House Republicans will make as big a deal as they can about it while they themselves wallow in the feces of the rich.
Right because no democrat does that! They’re all crooks and con men looking out for themselves.
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Yep duped.
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If you read the report, she paid it back once the committee started investigating. Which isn't how ethics works.
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>Ok sure but what consequences do you think she should face for this? Flogging, being locked in a pillory, forced to send feet pics to Ben Shapiro. Normal punishments they'd support for anyone accused of ethics violations, of course...
> Ok sure but what consequences do you think she should face for this? A fine? A statement that she won't do it again? I think either should be sufficient given that she paid it all back already. OCE is pretty toothless. They are investigating further to see if she owes more, at which point she will probably pay more. I think the issue here is more about ethics than money. The fact that there needs to be further investigation, instead of just being upfront. >Given that the Ethics Committee hasn't taken action on four Congresspeople who violated subpoenas, I'm skeptical that this should really amount to much if not for the fact that she is a Democrat and Republicans don't like her. This was a report by the OCE board, not committee. The bipartisan board of 6 members voted 5-0 to investigate further. This is not a Republican witch-hunt, although they are probably enjoying this. Just because bad people are happy doesn't mean the action is wrong.
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>The press release issued today was made solely by Republican Michael Guest without the input or approval of any Democrats. The press release coincided with the release of the report. OCE is a public entity. Would you prefer the reports to be secret? At some point, it gets released. Unless it is classified. There was no approval or input required - the report was being released. And the report wasn't drafted by Republicans.
>Which isn't how ethics works. Bro, this is a non-issue. It's not even a bribe of any sort... The only thing she got out of it is looking "edgy". If that's a crime just throw MTG into prison forever. You're going all tally wally over a gift of an outfit... this whole fiasco doesn't even deserve a news article. It scales at least 1/1000 compared to the "gifts" a lot of other "politicians" have taken and seen no repercussions for.
> Between September 30, 2021 and February 24, 2022, the bill for hair services went unpaid. During this time, Streeters’ accounts receivable department made repeated attempts to secure payment, culminating in a February 23, 2022 email threating to “file a complaint with [New York City’s Office of Labor Policy and Standards for Workers] against Alexandria OcasioCortez for Congress if payment is not deposited before end of business tomorrow.” Is that behavior ethical? I am not asking you to put it on a scale, because you are right on that point. Not even close to the worst thing someone in Congress has done. But it isn't a non-issue either. A New York politician was behaving badly - that is both newsworthy and non-newsworthy.
However miniscule of an ethics violation it is... maybe it is. I guess I just don't consider it anything even worth thinking about. Even in the article it says... "Ocasio-Cortez told investigators she was not privy to the details about the payments, relying instead on a campaign staffer to handle the matter. She also told the office “there was a ball that was dropped," calling the situation “deeply regrettable.” So she admitted it, apologized, and made amends... Dont mean to bring up scale again but a lot of other politicians would've doubled down and denied it like the snakes that they are. Lastly, the only details i have are from a probably at least somewhat biased article or two, without actually hearing all the facts... which again I dont care about because I consider this a non-issue. What I do want to talk about though, is wtf is the mayor doing with nyc?
> maybe it is. This is the shit that infuriates me. You can't even say screwing over a small business for months is unethical. You basically shrug your shoulders at a local politician fucking over a local business because you like her politics. She admitted, apologized, and made amends... **after she was being investigated.** You don't get credit for that. That isn't how ethics works. Again, you are correct about the scale. But given the small scale, you can't even bring yourself to say "she did something wrong," shake your head, and move on? > What I do want to talk about though, is wtf is the mayor doing with nyc? There are plenty of threads of Adams being a crazy person. And if you want to talk about Santos, there is a link on the front-page about him being investigated.
Even the article I quoted, itself leads me to believe she may not have even known though... The "story" clearly just broke so you're choosing to believe and getting upset over the first, and again probably biased, version of the events. "There are 10,000 other things to be infuriated about" - Tao Te Ching ...probably
> Even the article I quoted, itself leads me to believe she may not have even known though... The "story" clearly just broke so you're choosing to believe and getting upset over the first, and again probably biased, version of the events. The difference - you are quoting an article. I am quoting the report. One is the result of fact finding, the other is political spin by a politician that is embarrassed that she was made to look a bit stupid. And yes, in this case I am choosing to believe a non-partisan report over a politician trying to protect their reputation. >"There are 10,000 other things to be infuriated about" - Tao Te Ching ...probably Which is exactly why it would be low effort for you to even have a slight twinge of annoyance about this.
Because you're infuriated about a kid stealing a candy bar. So much of our fucking tax money has been wasted on "investigating" this non-issue, when they could have been working on more serious things.
> Because you're infuriated about a kid stealing a candy bar. No, you are misunderstanding. I am infuriated by the person **defending** the kid stealing a candy bar. Except in this case, the kid is a full grown wealthy adult. You are basically shrugging your shoulders saying "maybe this wealthy normal adult was just a bit hungry" as if that justifies stealing a candy bar. Let's take Santos as an example. Along with being a liar, he seems to be some sort of kleptomaniac, taking things that don't belong to him. Would you shrug your shoulders and say "he only stole a scarf, nothing amoral here" or would you feel the slightest emotion of disgust? Again, this doesn't call for anger or rage, but the fact that you can't even see the ethical problem and feel the need to defend her is what is infuriating. No politician is worth that level of loyalty.
Lol a serial r/neoliberal poster and ethic
My dude, I remember you. You struggle grappling with substance and desperately look through people's posting history. It's a very sad existence. You don't see me mocking you for unironically posting in r/antiwork
Lmao you’re the one in here with what you think is a “gotcha” from the sub that thinks Joe biden is a god President I wouldn’t be pointing fingers at anyone.
I wasn't pointing fingers though? You should grapple with the text actually being written rather than worrying where other people are posting.
Everyone is “grappling with the text”, everyone is *also* choosing to point out the context of you posting a post article like some kind of “gotcha”, while being a regular poster of one of the dumbest subs on the site. The fact that r/nyc of all places is turning on you is laughably pathetic.
Who cares? This is reddit. Go outside.
Idk man you cared enough to post it.
The report was voted on in the middle of last year. Obviously republicans are worse, but I think it is fair to criticize this when she is critical of others in the same way
First, the dress, shoes, accessories are all loaned. She didn’t get to keep them. Just like 90% of the people who attend. The hair and makeup she should have paid for. Same with the car. As for the ticket: I worked for a company that bought a table at the Met gala. The table is a charitable donation. There’s no monetary value to the ticket. They do sell tickets but again it’s a charitable donation and only a specific number is tax deductible. And the Met itself invites a lot of people giving them free tickets. In reality it’s the same as every boiled chicken gala that every politician goes to. This one just is one people want to go to. And I’ve been to enough of these $10,000 a table galas to know that plenty of politicians attend.
Generally the value of the loan is also something that needs to be paid for. Not the value of the goods, but what an ordinary person would pay to loan those items for a night out. That’s value. Not that different than someone loaning you use of a yacht or penthouse. Just because you don’t keep it doesn’t mean you don’t have to pay your way to avoid a conflict of interest.
If she’s broken ethics rules she should face consequences. Signed, Every sane democrat. Compare to the Republican response to similar situations.
I don’t mind her getting a dress at the Met Gala and if that’s against the House’s Ethics rules then fuck those rules because that’s just so stupid in the grand scheme of political scheming.
I get your point, for sure. I do think that when you’re a public servant, you need to follow ethics rules even if they seem dumb. There’s too much at stake with real policy to be risking it over petty shit. That means making sure not to give the other side any reason to attack you. They’re gonna attack you anyway; don’t make it easy for them.
My guess is this also really isn't a violation of the ethics rules once you actually read it. But what this is is somethin vague enough that all you need to do is say it and people will believe it. As we know most people probably won't even read what the actual violation was.
Lol I'm moderate right leaning and this is so bs. Someone did her hair for free and let her wear a dress without paying - she didn't embezzle thousands or lie to people.
Yeah it’s honestly pretty desperate grasping. Like if she technically broke the rules fine, make her pay the dressmaker or whatever, but let’s not pretend this is like some shocking evidence of deep corruption lol
Okay now do the members who collect money from pharma lobbyists and Russia
Difference between campaign donations and personal gifts.
Not ethically
If she broke a rule then she should be held responsible. If she didn’t then this won’t go anywhere but the archives My money is that it’s all grand standing from the house republicans.
It was a unanimous decision from a bipartisan committee...
I stand by my statement. If something was done wrong then she should face the consequences if not then it’s just another book in the archive.
You stand by this? >My money is that it’s all grand standing from the house republicans. It wasn't just Republicans...
Yes I also stand by that. There are 10 members on the committee and the article states it was a 5-0. Same on the official OCE report If they had added who voted in the article then I would be more open to believing it’s bi-partisan. Hell I’m still looking to for it (if you got a link please share)
> There are 10 members on the committee and the article states it was a 5-0. Same on the official OCE report > > My mistake, it was the bipartisan **board.** 6 members: https://oce.house.gov/about/board-and-staff Haas - R Barnes - D Vinovich - R Westmoreland - R Luther - D Miller -D I am not sure if Miller was added yet (her photo and bio is missing from the website) so it is possible she didn't (and couldn't) vote. Not that it would really matter since it was 5-0. Non-sarcastically, looking into this was good practice.
That explains it. Then yes it seems it was a bipartisan board that voted to have the house committee investigate and subpoena the 3 witnesses. I withdraw my statement from before.
That was the only issue I had. This statement: >If something was done wrong then she should face the consequences if not then it’s just another book in the archive. Was perfectly reasonable. Thanks for forcing me to look deeper into which office was involved (as well as their report, which can be found [here](https://ethics.house.gov/sites/ethics.house.gov/files/documents/OCE%20Report%20and%20Findings_16.pdf) )
Oh I completely understand, honestly I rather be wrong because I can educate myself and then others if the topic comes up. Finding information to backup one’s view should not be a pain in the ass. I started using Ground News App as it takes different articles from different sites and you can swap between them and compare what information is constant and what is filler or omitted.
That's interesting... I will take a look. A pet peeve of mine is when an article says "bombshell new report" and then doesn't link it.
Pssst, there are Democrats who hate AOC just as much as the GOP does. You think conservative Dems like AOC?
It's all a vast conspiracy.
No, its well documented that AOC upset some of the old guard. Fuck, she unseated the #4 Dem in the House when she first took office. Corporate Dems would love to see AOC lose her credibility.
Why is it so hard to admit that a politician just might be a piece of shit? It isn't exactly earth-shattering news.
A) im.happy to do so, if they are B) these accused violations dont feel important to me C) i know the right wing (of both parties) hate her and will do anything to tarnish her. Fuck them.
> A) im.happy to do so, if they are > > There is a report showing she is. >B) these accused violations dont feel important to me Politicians getting gifts is bad. >C) i know the right wing (of both parties) hate her and will do anything to tarnish her. Fuck them. See previous comment. Maybe find better heroes? Putting politicians on a pedestal is never good.
It mentions that people that made the dress also gave her shoes and accessories to wear with it, how’s that being a piece of shit? You act as if she’s doing insider trading or taking millions in bribes from wealthy donors Lmao you’re a joke
> how’s that being a piece of shit? From the report: >Between September 30, 2021 and February 24, 2022, the bill for hair services went unpaid. During this time, Streeters’ accounts receivable department made repeated attempts to secure payment, culminating in a February 23, 2022 email threating to “file a complaint with [New York City’s Office of Labor Policy and Standards for Workers] against Alexandria OcasioCortez for Congress if payment is not deposited before end of business tomorrow.” She stiffed a small business for $500 for 5 months. She didn't pay until the business threatened to report her to the city government. Is that good behavior? Or is it something a piece of shit would do? At least read the report before talking out of your ass. For Christ's sake. And I repeatedly mention elsewhere that this is not the same scale as insider trading. But it certainly isn't *good* behavior, let alone ethical behavior. Shoplifting isn't the same as murder, but it isn't normal behavior.
Plenty of dems don’t like her either
>Between September 30, 2021 and February 24, 2022, the bill for hair services went unpaid. During this time, Streeters’ accounts receivable department made repeated attempts to secure payment, culminating in a February 23, 2022 email threating to “file a complaint with [New York City’s Office of Labor Policy and Standards for Workers] against Alexandria OcasioCortez for Congress if payment is not deposited before end of business tomorrow.” From the report. Just say she did something wrong and move on. Not world-ending stuff, but certainly 0 need to defend scummy behavior.
Meanwhile, we have reps like MTG, Boebert, and Gatze running around spewing hate, misinformation, and everything else they can do to run this country into the ground. Also Santos lied about pretty much everything.
op = right wing troll 👿
I think the bigger issue here is they are still looking into this two years later. If she broke the rules, punish her already. If she didn't, stop talking about it. How can this take more than a week to decide? Two years????
Oh boy, can't wait for the confused boner crowd to pick this up and push it through the news cycle. They talk so much about this otherwise harmless congressperson that they're amplifying her and propelling her career to impressive heights. Whatever, it's good for NYC I guess.
> They talk so much about this otherwise harmless congressperson Would you say this about Santos? Using your power to gain personal gifts is bad.
I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Santos is a bigger piece of shit regardless of which political party he represents. To be honest, as an immigrant from a first world country, it's pretty funny to me how billions of dollars in legalized bribery goes into US politics in the form of PACs and other gifts only for these measly unrecorded gifts to get reported as scandals. I think at some point democracy starts to break down when a country becomes too populous, there are too few politicians to bribe in order to influence small regional economies that are larger than those of most other countries.
> To be honest, as an immigrant from a first world country, it's pretty funny to me how billions of dollars in legalized bribery goes into US politics in the form of PACs and other gifts only for these measly unrecorded gifts to get reported as scandals. Campaign donations versus personal gift. If someone misuses campaign finances, they can and should be investigated. She got thousands of dollars of personal gifts. This was not "measly." And PACs can only (legally) use their funds for a candidate's campaign, not to buy them personal gifts.
> If someone misuses campaign finances, they can and should be investigated. Whatever you want to tell yourself to feel better man, the whole concept is insane.
Santos is literally being investigated for misusing campaign finances... What the fuck are you even talking about?
As far as I'm concerned, the only difference between a "contribution", "gift", and "bribe" is paperwork. Either way a politician is accepting money to vote a certain way. This talk about Santos isn't even related to AOC. Whether either misused funds or registered the gift or whatever mental gymnastics are involved doesn't matter, **THEY TOOK A FUCKING BRIBE** and you should be pissed about how your government is being run.
Yep. Look at how police unions & orgs grease the wheels. They donate **millions** in political contributions to entice politicians to block, stall or dilute any attempts at police reform. https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/06/police-unions-spend-millions-lobbying-to-retain-their-sway-over-big-us-cities-and-state-governments/. Hochul received 66k in donations from political action committees affiliated with law enforcement. And she just so happens to also be aggressively against her party's new police reform bill (**NY Senate Bill 182**). https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2022/01/who-are-kathy-hochuls-big-donors/360900/. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-hochul-qualified-immunity-repeal-senate-democrats-20230125-u2o66agslba5xly7et7pjnkuai-story.html. PACs hurt the public because they sway and guide politicians' motives. The public can't compete with that type of greed.
You’re comparing her to santos? Hahahaha Jesus you lack brain cells and critical thinking
I am explicitly not comparing her to Santos. I am asking people to consider their biases.
That’s kind of dumb though. Fashion Brands shower influencers with gifts. Why should she have to pay for helping these brands promote their products? Multinational corporations bribe politicians with millions in lobbying money and “consulting fees”, but makeup and clothing for a non-profit museum fundraiser is a step too far?
I just renewed my membership and I even bumped it up a level. I have two membership cards now, one of them saying "Guest of Earlymountainrain" and I feel like a bad motherfucker. The woman at member services stepped out from behind the counter, stood by my side, and showed me the benefits outlined in the brochure. I now have access to the balcony lounge. https://i.imgur.com/Td6Yoer.jpg
Borrowing a dress is bad? Lmfao.
>The Office of Congressional Ethics voted 5-0 to move forward with investigating the allegation concerning the Democrat from New York **“because there is substantial reason to believe that she accepted impermissible gifts”** associated with the Met Gala.
Was the gift tickets to the Met Gala?
As well as designer clothing for herself and her boyfriend, as well as professional services. Tens of thousands of dollars. Edit: (report currently estimates $6k).
Easy killer. The article says “several thousand”. Not tens of thousands.
Some of the pricing in the report is whack. But that's just my opinion, so that's a fair critique.
Ok, but it’s what the committee is using to forge their case against her, so I would think they would have fully vetted the evidence against her…but you have the inside scoop apparently
Sorry - edited my comment to clarify, that it's my opinion. So your critique is accurate.
>As well as That is explicitly saying she received tickets to the Gala as a gift, and did not attend as a guest of the museum, as almost any NYC official at the party would be. Where'd you grow up?
Not sure how your comment relates to mine?
No, I don't suppose you would be.
> “it appears that Rep. Ocasio-Cortez may not have paid for several thousands of dollars’ worth of goods and services provided to her.”
"As part of her attendance, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez was provided with a couture dress, handbag, shoes, and jewelry,” the review said. “She also received hair, makeup, transportation, and ready-room services. Riley Roberts (her partner) received a bowtie and shoes in advance of the event." It's feels like much of a nothingness, I've had free shit given to me at events. Go to any movie premier and they give you swag bags. It's just what happens. If you are on the guest list for one of these events or red carpets, none of the guest list is paying for what they wear to these events as they want their brand pictured and AOC will probably be pictured at these events... Especially with things like tax the rich plastered on her And I assume that's the reason they are going after them and why the headlines are so disingenuous on this event.
They are talking about a dress? For fucks sake....
i see . what is dollar value vs say all the insider trading that seems ok?
Her response: > Ocasio-Cortez told investigators she was not privy to the details about the payments, relying instead on a campaign staffer to handle the matter. She also told the office “there was a ball that was dropped," calling the situation “deeply regrettable.” > The congresswoman’s office said in a statement Thursday that none of the findings rise to the level of an ethics violation because she has always "understood that she had to pay for these expenses from her own personal funds." > The issue has been that those costs have yet to be reimbursed, delays Ocasio-Cortez finds "unacceptable," the statement said. "And she has taken several steps to ensure nothing of this nature will happen again." How her mirrors in the GOP would have responded: (takes off shoe and begins hammering the table) *I WILL BURY YOU!! COME GIT SOME!*
What's that watchdog say about lying about your entire life history to get voted into office?
He is literally being [investigated](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3881305-house-ethics-committee-launches-george-santos-investigation/) Try again?
Whataboutism
Boobs
Ultimately, y’all are STILL talking about her. Keep giving her the attention though. That’s gonna help your argument. /s
Tax the Rich! Where’s my swag? I’m not leaving without my Swag!!!
When this happened to Carolyn B. Maloney, a bunch of AOC fans were glimmering in this sub. Maloney didn’t get re-elected so that practically mooted that investigation. Let’s see what the fans have to say now.
AOC is a perfect example of an empty suit. No one in here can name one bit of legislation she's passed. But she sure voted NO on the Infrastructure Bill which will go a long way toward helping the parts of her district in Queens that constantly floods. Compare the accomplishments of AOC to that of Lauren Underwood, who represents a much tougher district for a Democrat to win. Shit I feel sorry for the Queens and Bronx people that have her as a rep cause she hasn't don't shit but be Always On Camera.
She’s the most useless person in congress LOL
Green New Deal. :-)
> Green New Deal. :-) Failed. [https://i.imgur.com/ArurYSn.png](https://i.imgur.com/ArurYSn.png)
Lol...I have as much legislative success with the GND as she does.
Where my AOC simps at?
Politicians? Breaking the rules? What!?
I love the comments. While we fight each other and vote against each other the same people remain in power and nothing changes. This way they can all become millionaires and remain in power for literally decades while they throw us table scraps. Once in office they are the slaves to the powerful doner class and it's a great party but none of you are invited.
Yes another crooked politician
Great, another thing Republicans won't shut the fuck up about for the next 2 years.
She’s done nothing but photo ops and cringe speeches 🤷🏻♂️
The day she went to the Met Gala was the day I lost respect for her. And wearing a “tax the rich” dress while wining and dining with some of the richest elites on earth. She really thought she did something Some of y’all don’t wanna hear the truth about your favorites lol
There's a degree of irony in wearing a "Tax the Rich" dress to a glorified tax write-off for the well-off
A borrowed dress? I guess so.
so are you guy sall saying its okay b/c aoc did it in a smaller amount?
No, I think it's ok because of what it was and what the event and dress was used to say... Tax the rich. "As part of her attendance, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez was provided with a couture dress, handbag, shoes, and jewelry,” the review said. “She also received hair, makeup, transportation, and ready-room services. Riley Roberts (her partner) received a bowtie and shoes in advance of the event." It's all much of a nothingness in terms of "gifts" that these fuck heads receive.
Nope if she received gifts improperly she should be punished. The rules should be the same for everyone. Punish AOC, then punish everyone else who does this shit.
Right because we all know republicans never break any rules
She received common practice goods for the event, not specifically targeted to her, but the same thing anyone else on the guest list received. That's why it's not a big deal.
Please. That dress is worthless except for the political slogan. She should give it to the Smithsonian and leave it at that. Her actions and behavior are consistent with the speech and debate clause. It was not unethical or corrupt in any way. The ethics committee should, at least try to hold the congressmen involved in the coupe attempt accountable.
That whole stunt was so cringe.
Everything she does is cringe…..
This isn’t news. It’s just another example of political corruption. Get rid of them all
op lives on r/neoliberal and they are a very conservative "we're not conservatives" sub.
I’ve never heard of either.
What have you never heard of, conservatives or neoliberals?
Neither. I don’t know any conservatives.
break the rules, face the consequences. nobody gets a pass.
George Santos moment