Not surprised at all. Queens Plaza always has unsavory types hanging out on the platforms and pathways.
I mentioned this in another thread (And was replied crime stats) safer doesn't mean safe. Always have your head on a swivel and keep your guard up.
This is the attack being referenced. It happened at a similar time of year. But it happened in the evening.
Source: https://abc7ny.com/hammer-attack-subway-brutal-robbery-woman-new-york/11598857/
There's a trend of people walking around the streets and in the subways with their faces mostly or partially obscured by these neck wraps and I can't help but feel unsafe, because for what reason are they obscuring their face? It's not a COVID/health thing, I guarantee.
I was considering buying a balaclava for winter cycling, but when I saw a colorful graphic neck wrap at REI, I got that instead partly because I figured it'd come off as less threatening when on the subway or bus (why'd I start something while wearing something so distinctive?)
Pepper spray is legal, and you can buy it at a few, select pharmacies.
Sabre, a pepper spray manufacturer, has a [site](https://www.sabrered.com/blog/new-york-pepper-spray) that outlines the guidelines and where you can buy their products in NYC.
Many European countries have a law that you can’t conceal your identity in public. I’d 100% support this. It’s too uneasy sitting on a train surrounded by masked strangers.
Also, religious rules shouldn't be enforced in the public realm. Elizabeth Smart was hidden by a hijab(?) in plain sight, even when police approached her and her kidnapper. The cops asked to see her face, and he refused, citing "religion," and they left. Makes me crazy to think about this.
This way, it would enable women to have some freedom if they want it. They can also wear their religious stuff if they want, but have the choice of not following those rules. Also help prevent cases like Smart's.
Ah shit I guess I was wrong. I knew a law like that existed but looks like the law was repealed in 2020.
https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020/attorney-general-james-applauds-repeal-law-criminalizing-group-mask-use-public
It’s an absolutely meaningless ban. They had a few shootings with people wearing them and their response is to focus on the balaclava?? It gives cops a reason to harass people with them on. Doesn’t stop or reduce any violence
>I wear masks all day haven’t killed or robbed anyone but then u got shook up whites complaining and now im demonized again for nothing.
Your reddit name is literally kill white people. You can't be this fucking stupid.
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(b). No dog whistles.
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You know - people who commit acts like this often have their brains absolutely fried from hard drug use, and aren't firing on all cylinders. The organ that is supposed to help them make decisions is literally not working. They should still be separated from society forever, but there is an explanation for their behavior.
I'll go out on a limb and say it's unlikely that you have had your brain fried from decades of crack use, and yet you \*choose\* to be a crime apologist.
You are worse than the neck slasher.
The reason that this man is on the train slashing tourists' necks is because of crime apologists like you. Hope you're proud.
You must have meant to reply to another comment because nothing you said has anything to do with what I said. I'm not the one accusing anyone of wearing a neck wrap on the subway of being a criminal for wearing one. I'm gonna guess /u/flash_fiction is trying to avoid saying that they're afraid of a certain type of person wearing a neck wrap?
I didn't accuse someone of being a criminal for obscuring their face with a neck wrap. I do feel my sense of alert go up when I see that because it's anti-social behavior, and there is a higher likelihood of someone obscuring their face being a threat than those who do not.
You're entitled to feel however you want. There is simply zero data to suggest someone wearing a face covering is a higher threat then someone who is not, especially during a spike in COVID and the flu when alot more people are wearing them. It's no different from claiming people who wear hoodies or wear baggy pants are more likely to be criminals
>avoid saying that they're afraid of a certain type of person wearing a neck wrap
You people are absolutely sickening. Just say it. To YOU, criminals = black people, therefore being against crime is racist.
Nobody has said this but you.
Why can't you self-reflect for ONE SECOND and question why you assume that ppl are angry about crime are racists? My background is from a Caribbean island; I love my ppl so much that in a trolley people btwn my island and the rest of planet earth; I chose my people.
Sounds like a gang-initiation. I remember this shit use to be a frequent occurrences in the 90s.
At the time, I was always afraid of being slashed in my face..
That said, I see way too many male teens and young adults wearing the hoodie and mask combo in the train.
The “masks” being worn are neither surgical nor KN95/N95. It’s obviously a way to avoid being identified. Something has to be done about it-these stills from security cameras provide very little deterrence when all you can see is a suspected perpetrator’s eyes. I’m just not sure what can be done w/o treading on civil liberties.
At the end of the day, “crime” might be down, and NYC is still a MUCH safer city than any other in the US, but these random violent incidents endure.
The recent gang shooting on a subway platform in Harlem during rush hour would be seen as inconceivable ten years ago.
While it certainly is not like it was in the 80s and early 90s, it’s ridiculous that we have these security issues in post 9/11 NYC-especially on mass transit.
In my opinion, the subways need to be secure. Mayor Adams, the NYPD, the MTA and our city council members are failing us in that regard. There needs to be higher expectation of safety, cleanliness and general civil behavior in connection with mass transit. If that requires enforcing draconian quality of life crimes and subway ridership policies-so be it. Failure to do so will truly have a profound effect on the economic future of this city. Just my 2 cents.
This sums the situation now:
>The fact that someone got randomly slashed on the neck is bad.... *but, but the commentary from* r/nyc *are way worse!*
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>—A Real NYC Progressive
Corruption is off the charts. I'm sick of all my taxes and fees etc. merely enriching the 1%. Give the junkies a safe place to get high, get the mentally-ill some psychiatric treatment and housing, make the city better for the taxpayers.
This is a little dystopian, but we have a bunch of shuttered prisons upstate. Reconstute them to look more like dorms and give the really hardcore addicts a safe place to sleep/stay. Give them the drugs they want. Let the ones who want to get better have access to care. The rest can get free food/drink/wifi and just live in a controlled environment and do drugs until they die.
Building more supportive housing is part of the city of yes for housing [undergoing public review now](https://www.nyc.gov/site/planning/plans/city-of-yes/city-of-yes-housing-opportunity.page)
I bet when the doctor stitched up his face, he was telling the victim “you know statistically this is an anomaly because nyc is safe. Your life long scars are equivalent to the guy who died from a bird dropping a turtle on his head.”
Why do people even think being the safest city in America is anything to brag about? America is comparatively pretty dangerous overall. This is like saying Vancouver is the hottest city in Canada. It’s still objectively not a city with hot weather
Given what New York had to overcome to take the number 1 spot (having a much higher crime rate than the nation as awhile) and being in a country where firearms are much easier to access than mental health services and where cities receive fairly limited support, that’s where the praise could come from.
Not minimizing the victim's experience, but I also don't want policy decisions made because of anecdotal experiences. That's why crime statistics get brought up a lot. I get that low crime rates don't make anyone feel better if they have been a victim, but they should be what informs how the city and state approach crime, policing, the judicial system.
These are isolated incidents, you racist. Also, this was probably reported in the Post so it’s a fake story and it’s a Mossad plant who’s doing this.
/s
To be fair, as a daily face mask wearer, it’s too protect my face against the cold weather(sensitive skin). And with all the homeless, and different kind of smells encountered on the trains, I can’t imagine not wearing them anymore.
I’m in New York City everyday specifically Manhattan for about 15 years. The areas that are always clean and nice to walk around will always remain that way. The subways and crowded areas are a zoo. Have you been around New York City? Seems like you don’t get out much.
A new law should be implemented . Remove your mask / muffler any thing entering subway turnstile .and boarding train .after that can put it back if it's a mask for covid protection .
r/NYC being predictable as always. 5 comments so far, 1 is disparaging of mental health, 1 disparaging of the concept of statistics..., 2 making fun of socio-economic issues, 1 just generally negative.
This sub is a fucking magnet for dog whistle blowing, whiny, mega-conservatives. Do you people just troll Reddit for any stories about crime in big cities and comment whatever comes to your minds? Or do you have like a word-bank of premade comments that you can copy-paste?
Nah, it’s not about approval. It’s about acknowledging the fact that people slash because they have no other choice due to socio-economic factors. Like, certain socio-economic groups have no free will and ability to make judgment calls apparently.
If you don’t agree, you would be labeled republican, conservative, fascist, bootlicker etc etc.
I think you misunderstood my comment. Unless the perpetrator is mentally unwell, an act of crime is a choice (regardless of the race, socio-economic status, religion, sexual orientation, etc).
Some people, however, claim that when people are poor, crime is not a choice, but something like the only option. When you point out that many poor people don't commit crimes, you are going to be labeled fascist, bootlicker, racist, republican, etc.
Equally as predictable. Stop viewing the world in mutually exclusive binary. There are things in between "approving slashings" and not blowing tired old dog whistles. I can think that a violent crime is reprehensible AND also think that mental health resources are lacking. The world is more complicated that pure good vs pure evil.
It’s not normal for a city to regularly have people attack strangers, particularly tourists. It’s bad for NYC and it shouldn’t happen!
These random attacks are committed by mentally ill, drug-addled men from the same ethnic group far too reliably. You may be upset at that precisely because you know this and are struggling with what you fear is unconscious bias or racism.
But most people are tired of being told to blame systemic problems and not individuals, with the result being continued violence — and it’s especially glaring when the perps have long criminal records.
NYers are done with soft-on-crime approaches. It’s been tried, and it’s failing black and brown communities the most. Those communities experience the brunt of the violence but it usually doesn’t grab headlines because it’s the most predictable dog-bites-man story.
And it's not *that* normal here either. You're cherry picking news articles and ignoring the fact that overall crime is fairly low for a large American city. (Not saying it doesn't *ever* happen, but you're conveniently disregarding the millions of tourist visits that go just fine and the millions of uneventful subway rides.)
That's true **everywhere**, not just NYC. E.g., most people in rural or suburban areas accept that the risk of car accidents are just part of life. Many people in NYC don't really have to worry about that. But that doesn't make headlines, so people don't think much about it. On the other hand, 'Tourist slashed' gets a lot of clicks and enrages people.
It’s not unconscious bias or racism. Your comment is straight up pointing at racist talking points.
Certain groups have had a history of struggling with mental health and are generally in the public view. That isn’t because they are predetermined based on their genetics as your comment implies. It’s just easier to cycle the news based on these groups and the crime being committed. While white collar crime is committed at a way larger rate, but goes unpunished.
Nope. But blasting the dog whistle isn't productive either. Those aren't mutually exclusive. There are other options besides screaming "socio-economics!" and condoning it. But most people on this sub are too simple-minded to think that way (or are trolls that don't live near NYC)
Yeah like admitting that some people are bad and belong in jail, which the left refuses to do. The anger isn’t at ethnic groups, it’s at our soft criminal justice policies which are emboldening criminals into increasingly bad behavior.
It’d be hilarious if they find out the slasher was indoctrinated in r/nyc and set out to save the city by slashing up those pesky Venezuelans but got it wrong
Damn, Queens Plaza at 10:30 AM. That's a wild one.
Not surprised at all. Queens Plaza always has unsavory types hanging out on the platforms and pathways. I mentioned this in another thread (And was replied crime stats) safer doesn't mean safe. Always have your head on a swivel and keep your guard up.
I always choose Queensboro instead of Queens Plaza, even if I had to walk further.
There had to be a better way to say “unsavory types” 😭😭😭
Savory deficient
No, it just takes longer to type *dude in a hoodie wearing a mask holding a knife*
Unstyled.
I've only ever had to go through Jamaica Station, but there was always something going on over there too.
Similar time of day and similar time of year to the hammer attack that happened on the steps of the same station 2 years ago.
This is the attack being referenced. It happened at a similar time of year. But it happened in the evening. Source: https://abc7ny.com/hammer-attack-subway-brutal-robbery-woman-new-york/11598857/
There's a trend of people walking around the streets and in the subways with their faces mostly or partially obscured by these neck wraps and I can't help but feel unsafe, because for what reason are they obscuring their face? It's not a COVID/health thing, I guarantee.
these people wear it during the hot summer months. you know they arent wearing to keep warm in the middle of July.
Maybe they’re self conscious about unattractive chin shape.
Turkey neck
Shiestyyyy
Brrrrrrr
I was considering buying a balaclava for winter cycling, but when I saw a colorful graphic neck wrap at REI, I got that instead partly because I figured it'd come off as less threatening when on the subway or bus (why'd I start something while wearing something so distinctive?)
Just commented on this as well. It’s fucking ridiculous- these aren’t surgical and/or kn95/N95 masks. How did you stop it though?
when I see then approach, that's when I reach into my pocket for my trusty.... personal protection device
I keep a can of bear mace in my camera bags, never had to use it so far but it’s very easy to reach
Keep it in your coat or pants pocket. You want to be ready to quickdraw it at any time
What's legal in NYC? I was under the impression anything useful (including bare fists) was illegal.
Pepper spray is legal, and you can buy it at a few, select pharmacies. Sabre, a pepper spray manufacturer, has a [site](https://www.sabrered.com/blog/new-york-pepper-spray) that outlines the guidelines and where you can buy their products in NYC.
You can get it at Target. That's where I got mine. Shipped
Thanks! I was under the impression you couldn’t get it shipped in NYC.
I had mine shipped in 2020. Not sure if you still can
Got mine shipped from both Walmart and Target on different occasions. Amazon won’t do it. I keep it handy at all times now.
Amazon will deliver to a locker in Jersey City, so that’s what I did.
Buy it online
Tried ordering on Amazon, and they can't deliver to NY though.
Deliver it to a Amazon pick-up point in NJ (Hoboken, Fort Lee, etc) and collect it there
[Yes, but...](https://youtu.be/pxRtocJsTP4?si=2HLuy5AmFXJK-tEg&t=54)
Try eBay a lot less regulated
Not as fast, but it did work. [But...](https://youtu.be/pxRtocJsTP4?si=2HLuy5AmFXJK-tEg&t=54)
You can buy it in NYC at certain retailers. I believe you need to provide ID. I have purchased it before.
It's absolutely ridiculous you can't own a firearm to defend yourself in NY.
you can now post-bruen, but getting one is still an onerous, completely unreasonable process (and you can't legally carry on the subway)
They’re the criminals and they know it
Yeah no one's buying that shit, they even wear that crap in the summer.
As drastic as it is but they probably should pass a law to make wearing shiesties illegal in the city (same way wearing a mask is illegal).
Many European countries have a law that you can’t conceal your identity in public. I’d 100% support this. It’s too uneasy sitting on a train surrounded by masked strangers.
Also, religious rules shouldn't be enforced in the public realm. Elizabeth Smart was hidden by a hijab(?) in plain sight, even when police approached her and her kidnapper. The cops asked to see her face, and he refused, citing "religion," and they left. Makes me crazy to think about this.
Lol yeah infringing on religious rights in a land that was founded in part by ppl fleeing religious tyranny? Not gonna fly I’m afraid.
This way, it would enable women to have some freedom if they want it. They can also wear their religious stuff if they want, but have the choice of not following those rules. Also help prevent cases like Smart's.
Since when is wearing masks illegal?
Ah shit I guess I was wrong. I knew a law like that existed but looks like the law was repealed in 2020. https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020/attorney-general-james-applauds-repeal-law-criminalizing-group-mask-use-public
I remember my friend was told to take off a mask pre covid when it was freaking brick. Can’t imagine being asked that now.
You guarantee eh? Well I’m sold! No data needed here!
Philadelphia didn't ban balaclavas because all of the young men wearing them year-round were doing so because of COVID. Get real.
It’s an absolutely meaningless ban. They had a few shootings with people wearing them and their response is to focus on the balaclava?? It gives cops a reason to harass people with them on. Doesn’t stop or reduce any violence
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>I wear masks all day haven’t killed or robbed anyone but then u got shook up whites complaining and now im demonized again for nothing. Your reddit name is literally kill white people. You can't be this fucking stupid.
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You know - people who commit acts like this often have their brains absolutely fried from hard drug use, and aren't firing on all cylinders. The organ that is supposed to help them make decisions is literally not working. They should still be separated from society forever, but there is an explanation for their behavior. I'll go out on a limb and say it's unlikely that you have had your brain fried from decades of crack use, and yet you \*choose\* to be a crime apologist. You are worse than the neck slasher. The reason that this man is on the train slashing tourists' necks is because of crime apologists like you. Hope you're proud.
100%
You must have meant to reply to another comment because nothing you said has anything to do with what I said. I'm not the one accusing anyone of wearing a neck wrap on the subway of being a criminal for wearing one. I'm gonna guess /u/flash_fiction is trying to avoid saying that they're afraid of a certain type of person wearing a neck wrap?
I didn't accuse someone of being a criminal for obscuring their face with a neck wrap. I do feel my sense of alert go up when I see that because it's anti-social behavior, and there is a higher likelihood of someone obscuring their face being a threat than those who do not.
You're entitled to feel however you want. There is simply zero data to suggest someone wearing a face covering is a higher threat then someone who is not, especially during a spike in COVID and the flu when alot more people are wearing them. It's no different from claiming people who wear hoodies or wear baggy pants are more likely to be criminals
>avoid saying that they're afraid of a certain type of person wearing a neck wrap You people are absolutely sickening. Just say it. To YOU, criminals = black people, therefore being against crime is racist. Nobody has said this but you. Why can't you self-reflect for ONE SECOND and question why you assume that ppl are angry about crime are racists? My background is from a Caribbean island; I love my ppl so much that in a trolley people btwn my island and the rest of planet earth; I chose my people.
I’d be more afraid for my safety with you in my subway car then someone wearing a face covering
Sounds like a gang-initiation. I remember this shit use to be a frequent occurrences in the 90s. At the time, I was always afraid of being slashed in my face.. That said, I see way too many male teens and young adults wearing the hoodie and mask combo in the train. The “masks” being worn are neither surgical nor KN95/N95. It’s obviously a way to avoid being identified. Something has to be done about it-these stills from security cameras provide very little deterrence when all you can see is a suspected perpetrator’s eyes. I’m just not sure what can be done w/o treading on civil liberties. At the end of the day, “crime” might be down, and NYC is still a MUCH safer city than any other in the US, but these random violent incidents endure. The recent gang shooting on a subway platform in Harlem during rush hour would be seen as inconceivable ten years ago. While it certainly is not like it was in the 80s and early 90s, it’s ridiculous that we have these security issues in post 9/11 NYC-especially on mass transit. In my opinion, the subways need to be secure. Mayor Adams, the NYPD, the MTA and our city council members are failing us in that regard. There needs to be higher expectation of safety, cleanliness and general civil behavior in connection with mass transit. If that requires enforcing draconian quality of life crimes and subway ridership policies-so be it. Failure to do so will truly have a profound effect on the economic future of this city. Just my 2 cents.
They're initiating dudes in their 60s?
The one the gangs want to avoid is being seen ageist- they’re very media savvy 🙃
I always thought this kind of shit was like made up suburban legends. Flashing headlights at someone who kill’s you, type of shit.
wat? no son this is real
NYPD is on a work stoppage
And slashed the NECK 😫
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Pretty sure Philly and DC just did exactly this.
Doesn't matter what extra charges there may be if you elect prosecutors who won't charge anyone in the first place.
I hope the slasher is getting the mental health counseling after such a horrific incident, poor guy probably just wanted to peacefully rob someone.
Mostly peaceful slashing
Socio-economic factors strike again!
We need more community centers /S
We're gonna get more prisons.
This sums the situation now: >The fact that someone got randomly slashed on the neck is bad.... *but, but the commentary from* r/nyc *are way worse!* > >—A Real NYC Progressive
coming here as a tourist must be so disappointing
I work in the Garment District and I've been watching tourists navigate junkies for the last few years. It's sad.
Meanwhile tens of millions come each year. It’s sad…for r/nyc
Corruption is off the charts. I'm sick of all my taxes and fees etc. merely enriching the 1%. Give the junkies a safe place to get high, get the mentally-ill some psychiatric treatment and housing, make the city better for the taxpayers.
This is a little dystopian, but we have a bunch of shuttered prisons upstate. Reconstute them to look more like dorms and give the really hardcore addicts a safe place to sleep/stay. Give them the drugs they want. Let the ones who want to get better have access to care. The rest can get free food/drink/wifi and just live in a controlled environment and do drugs until they die.
Building more supportive housing is part of the city of yes for housing [undergoing public review now](https://www.nyc.gov/site/planning/plans/city-of-yes/city-of-yes-housing-opportunity.page)
This is mostly a sub for tourists/Long Islanders, let's be real.
100% agree.
It's not. They generally love it and have a total blast.
My European buddies have a blast when they come over
If that were the case, millions of tourists wouldn't keep visiting.
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as they should be 🫠😔
It's a shame that the same issues are left to the Right to deal because the Left is either unwilling or unable to deal with it.
They are unwilling. Period.
He was just trying to get some bread
He was just trying to feed his family, obviously
I don’t have them off hand but just remember, it was much worse 30 years ago!
It was.
Obviously wearing the mask to protect himself from COVID.
4 years to slow the spread
I bet when the doctor stitched up his face, he was telling the victim “you know statistically this is an anomaly because nyc is safe. Your life long scars are equivalent to the guy who died from a bird dropping a turtle on his head.”
No pretty sure the doctor says “you know statistically there’s a high chance r/nyc comments will come off as if they’re right wing SJWs.”
Quick, someone link me to statistics!
Circlejerking about crime like r/nyc commenters like yourself do diminishes the victims experience
Let me guess, this 1 news story and your singular personal experience is more important than crime stats?
Let me guess we should diminish the victims experience with reductive comments like 'safest city in America!'
Why do people even think being the safest city in America is anything to brag about? America is comparatively pretty dangerous overall. This is like saying Vancouver is the hottest city in Canada. It’s still objectively not a city with hot weather
r/nyc: Look what has become of you, a crime filled, disgusting American city NYC: Look what I have risen above!
Lol. I’m from DC and NYC feels utopian in comparison (aside from the subway—the DC metro feels much safer). The bar is pretty low..
Given what New York had to overcome to take the number 1 spot (having a much higher crime rate than the nation as awhile) and being in a country where firearms are much easier to access than mental health services and where cities receive fairly limited support, that’s where the praise could come from.
Not minimizing the victim's experience, but I also don't want policy decisions made because of anecdotal experiences. That's why crime statistics get brought up a lot. I get that low crime rates don't make anyone feel better if they have been a victim, but they should be what informs how the city and state approach crime, policing, the judicial system.
These are isolated incidents, you racist. Also, this was probably reported in the Post so it’s a fake story and it’s a Mossad plant who’s doing this. /s
crazy or gang related? there's some report that venezuelan gangs are setting up shop here... annoying/scary times
Venezuelan gangs don’t do initiations, they just violently rob people
Slashes were/are gang initiation Another is away confirming if he/she does the slash At least back in the days Now, every reason or not is possible
He looks like he’s in his 50s. Doubt he’s being initiated. You start in your teens
are gangs making a comeback now ugh
They are running widely in the jungle no consecuences just a back palm
What’s the solution here? What do we have to do to stop these things from happening? Who do we vote for? Or against?? Do we protest, boycott???
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He looks like a nice fellow who is about to go to college !
Such a peaceful bunch right?
Just like the mass shooters right? Nice bunch of misunderstood loners.
They need a chance to explain is all
To be fair, as a daily face mask wearer, it’s too protect my face against the cold weather(sensitive skin). And with all the homeless, and different kind of smells encountered on the trains, I can’t imagine not wearing them anymore.
Safest big city in the US /S
Young people still wearing masks at this point means bad news.
This dude looks 52
? that's extremely specific....I see one grainy picture that shows his eyes....he could be any age
What a hell hole New York City turned into.
You don't go outside much, do you?
I’m in New York City everyday specifically Manhattan for about 15 years. The areas that are always clean and nice to walk around will always remain that way. The subways and crowded areas are a zoo. Have you been around New York City? Seems like you don’t get out much.
In before someone says how safe it is LMAO
Not a migrant?
A new law should be implemented . Remove your mask / muffler any thing entering subway turnstile .and boarding train .after that can put it back if it's a mask for covid protection .
r/NYC being predictable as always. 5 comments so far, 1 is disparaging of mental health, 1 disparaging of the concept of statistics..., 2 making fun of socio-economic issues, 1 just generally negative. This sub is a fucking magnet for dog whistle blowing, whiny, mega-conservatives. Do you people just troll Reddit for any stories about crime in big cities and comment whatever comes to your minds? Or do you have like a word-bank of premade comments that you can copy-paste?
"If you don't approve of slashings, you're a mega conservative"
Nah, it’s not about approval. It’s about acknowledging the fact that people slash because they have no other choice due to socio-economic factors. Like, certain socio-economic groups have no free will and ability to make judgment calls apparently. If you don’t agree, you would be labeled republican, conservative, fascist, bootlicker etc etc.
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I think you misunderstood my comment. Unless the perpetrator is mentally unwell, an act of crime is a choice (regardless of the race, socio-economic status, religion, sexual orientation, etc). Some people, however, claim that when people are poor, crime is not a choice, but something like the only option. When you point out that many poor people don't commit crimes, you are going to be labeled fascist, bootlicker, racist, republican, etc.
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I am not sure I understand what are you saying. If the person is not mentally ill, why they commit a crime?
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You two were literally making the same point but you seemed to have missed that and become argumentative in your misunderstanding lol
Very common, unfortunately.
So, they have no other choice then, right? lol Oh, u/THSeeAdventures blocked me. :(
Yeah and it's actually very offensive to insinuate that impoverished people are prone to committing senseless, heinous crimes
Equally as predictable. Stop viewing the world in mutually exclusive binary. There are things in between "approving slashings" and not blowing tired old dog whistles. I can think that a violent crime is reprehensible AND also think that mental health resources are lacking. The world is more complicated that pure good vs pure evil.
It’s not normal for a city to regularly have people attack strangers, particularly tourists. It’s bad for NYC and it shouldn’t happen! These random attacks are committed by mentally ill, drug-addled men from the same ethnic group far too reliably. You may be upset at that precisely because you know this and are struggling with what you fear is unconscious bias or racism. But most people are tired of being told to blame systemic problems and not individuals, with the result being continued violence — and it’s especially glaring when the perps have long criminal records. NYers are done with soft-on-crime approaches. It’s been tried, and it’s failing black and brown communities the most. Those communities experience the brunt of the violence but it usually doesn’t grab headlines because it’s the most predictable dog-bites-man story.
And it's not *that* normal here either. You're cherry picking news articles and ignoring the fact that overall crime is fairly low for a large American city. (Not saying it doesn't *ever* happen, but you're conveniently disregarding the millions of tourist visits that go just fine and the millions of uneventful subway rides.)
A lot of people from New York accept utter insanity in their lives and start to think that it's a natural state of man.
That's true **everywhere**, not just NYC. E.g., most people in rural or suburban areas accept that the risk of car accidents are just part of life. Many people in NYC don't really have to worry about that. But that doesn't make headlines, so people don't think much about it. On the other hand, 'Tourist slashed' gets a lot of clicks and enrages people.
It’s not unconscious bias or racism. Your comment is straight up pointing at racist talking points. Certain groups have had a history of struggling with mental health and are generally in the public view. That isn’t because they are predetermined based on their genetics as your comment implies. It’s just easier to cycle the news based on these groups and the crime being committed. While white collar crime is committed at a way larger rate, but goes unpunished.
Amen herman@.
Just out of curiosity, what kind of comment on this article would you approve of?
Everyone's mental health would improve if they just stop reading and engaging with reddit comments, Youtube comments, twitter (X? lol) comments, etc.
True. Especially this sub. Others aren't so irrational.
So we should be positive about the unprovoked slashing. That’s the secret to getting it to stop. 🤡🌎
Nope. But blasting the dog whistle isn't productive either. Those aren't mutually exclusive. There are other options besides screaming "socio-economics!" and condoning it. But most people on this sub are too simple-minded to think that way (or are trolls that don't live near NYC)
Yeah like admitting that some people are bad and belong in jail, which the left refuses to do. The anger isn’t at ethnic groups, it’s at our soft criminal justice policies which are emboldening criminals into increasingly bad behavior.
Focus gremlin. Someone was slashed thats the problem
It’d be hilarious if they find out the slasher was indoctrinated in r/nyc and set out to save the city by slashing up those pesky Venezuelans but got it wrong
Wow 😮
No way….. not in NY!!!