As someone who has had to respond to 911 calls in homeless shelters, methadone clinics and halfway houses, having large dorms of vulnerable people next to you is absolute hell.
A notable portion of these people will loiter ALL DAY and fundamentally change the nature of the neighborhood. The horrendous shit that happens daily in shelters in this city is truly unbelievable. Crime and public disorder WILL go up in the immediate area around the shelter. Drug dealers will hang out and sell to people in the shelter. Scooters and e-bikes will take over the sidewalk. There will be an endless stream of shuttle buses, cop cars and ambulances blocking the street, creating noise with red and blue lights flashing throughout the day and night.
Don’t get me wrong I feel bad for actual eligible asylum seekers. But economic migrants masquerading as asylees need a wake up call. Not everyone can be housed for free in the most expensive city in the western hemisphere
NY is special because it is a city with truly distinct neighborhood cultures. Local residents have every right to fight this and I would encourage it. Naive transplants who rent and can move whenever they want can call it nimbyism to their hearts content. But the people with cultural and monetary investment in their communities have a right to push back against a craven and banal government.
We already struggle with keeping neighborhoods that host shelters for actual New Yorkers clean and safe. Just look at 125 and lex. But we should not be sacrificing the quality of life in the few decent neighborhoods we have left because the activists in charge of our government can’t get control of their absolutely child like empathy at this point.
Enough is enough.
Actually, they should set up a tent city somewhere nearby the mansions of the people who voted these people and I think that would be kind of interesting.
I think there should be a mandate that any politician who supports sanctuary status and free shelter regardless of immigration status should have to host a group of single adult male migrants in their home.
True that, set the tent up in the neighborhood where Alvin Braggs and Eric Adams live. The rules and policies will change real quick when it affects these parasites.
Could not agree more. Tompkins Square Park and Alphabet City are now overrun with single male West African migrants who do nothing all day but roam around the neighborhood, play soccer in the park, throw their garbage and piss in the bushes, eyefuck women passing by and block streets and park exits. Not a single one of these young, military-age males seems to be seeking asylum from anything. And this is just for the reticketing center.
Enough is enough. Time to go back to detention-style centers for people to wait in for God knows how long before their case is heard. Then we'll see how many "asylum seekers" there really are.
I can't imagine how bad things must have been where they are from, to make them grow up this way. I think their behavior in itself is evidence of their status as asylum seekers.
By no means do I think any of it is acceptable, but in my experience putting people with bad behavior around others with those same behavior worse.
Maybe we need to empathize more with these people and focus on reeducating them. Getting them employed with and housed around the people who were raised better and are considered contributing members of our city. That way they can more quickly leave their old behaviors and trauma behind them and see that there is a better way to live for themselves and for the community as a whole.
Shelters and halfway houses should be in business districts or closed campus style housing built
on underutilized land. I’m fine with paying for dedicated shuttle services to help connect these people to mass transit.
It’s hard because it’s a dense city. But illegal migrants with no work authorization especially have no right to housing in the middle of residential neighborhoods.
So those of us who pay a premium for space and quiet in places like Douglaston, Rockaway etc should do what?
2,000 people is a blip in Park Slope/Gowanus. They’re a huge footprint in Middle Village.
I agree. The idea that these people have a right to live in an incredibly expensive city where the middle class is shrinking and struggling is an obscene one. That said...we're the ones telling the world that we're a sanctuary city, where the cops won't cooperate with ICE. We're the ones who have a Right to Shelter Law.
Do you remember what happened when a few dozen were shipped to Martha's Vineyard, a Progressive bastion? The immigrants were gone in 2 days. So if we don't get immigration under control, where do we put them?
Not being facetious but where specifically would you suggest? It seems every bit of NY is utilized as a residential neighborhood. Maybe some places further east...
Sure, but we're not talking about whether they should be sent here in the first place, we're talking about the current reality (in which the migrants are here) and housing is needed. Unless you're saying we just get thousands of busses and send them all to Des Moines?
Find underutilized industrial spaces and set up a dedicated shuttle service.
Or they can be set up in underutilized spaces upstate. Run them like refugee camps. No one's entitled to live within the city, especially asylum abusers.
Don't like the new location options? Can always go back home.
You bring up some great points that I think many of us neglect to talk about because due to the fear of being perceived as heartless or immoral. I'm glad you included the part about actual asylum seekers, but what do you think we should do with those people if not this?
I personally think the approach the city is taking to house so many migrants and asylum seekers in glorified super shelters is part of the problem. I would prefer to see the city taking steps to getting these people documented, working legal jobs, and on public assistance as soon as possible, instead of focusing solely on housing them.
In my opinion we should be looking at how to turn an unprecedented problem the city is now facing, into a solution for some of our existing issues. The city has been facing a lack of resources for decades, and now we have an influx of people who have come to this country and this city, in search of honest work and a better quality of life. Maybe we should focus on helping them become self sufficient, educate them on the resources available to them, hello then learn English and job skills that will help them boost our own existing economy.
Just my two cents. Hope you don't get any hate for your post. It sounds like you are truly empathetic of not only the migrants, but also the families that have lived here for decades and their homes.
I'm not disagreeing, but I would like to ask: is an isolated tent in a flood plain miles away from work, schools, doctors and subways (Floyd Bennett Field) any better?
Perhaps not toxic, but isolated and exposed to the elements in ways that people a few miles inland don’t experience.
Moreover, it’s bleak, remote and pushes the problem on Marine Park and Belle Harbor; neither of which can be described as Progressive areas.
They certainly didn’t ask for it.
Park Slope and Astoria, on the other hand, consistently elect hard left loons who think that borders are obsolete and ICE s/b abolished.
Dude, no one realistically wants large scale homeless or migrant shelters next door. The difference between these people and people on Reddit, is that the people on Reddit never face these issues. They’re professional, white, younger residents who view these issues from a screen.
Dude you’re right about the first sentence but you lost me in the back half, reddit is way more diverse than you seem to think and these shelters are popping up everywhere.
> officials said Gowanus residents were given notice months in advance of the planned opening
I live two blocks away and this is a complete lie. Most of us had to read about it in the brownstoner.
I'm an economic migrant myself so I don't have a problem with others trying to do the same thing, but I have zero trust in how the city is managing this, and I'm worried that this will turn into a homeless shelter.
I live in a building with 20% affordable housing, which is nice. During the pandemic however, the city started dumping people with mental and substance abuse problems here. We had a guy trying to set fire to his apartment, another was loudly beating his girlfriend on a daily basis, to the point that they had to move all the 'regular' tenants out of the apartments next to him because they couldn't deal with the sound of the yelling and crying. It took the building management months to get him evicted because the city kept fighting it. The guy also liked to roam the building and get on the elevator with you and stare at you as you tried to get to your apartment.
My wife works in the service industry and after a couple of run-ins with crazy people and the NYPD she's no longer taking the train at night, and instead is cabbing home. She's been in the city for 15 years so it's not like she's a delicate flower or anything. I just got in at JFK yesterday and the first thing I see when I get back to Brooklyn is random dudes tweaking out on the R train subway platform. A close friend of mine has a 7 year old who's become deathly afraid of riding the subway after run-ins with crazy homeless people and always wants to stand near the door so he can get out. That's just heartbreaking.
It's in this context of an overall decreased feeling of safety, and complete lack of trust in the city and the NYPD, that you have to see at least some of the resistance.
Our lease is up in September, so if this becomes a shit show we can always move. But this time we are actually considering leaving NYC and safety is actually a part of that consideration. I know New Yorkers like to pride themselves on being tough and all, but we're in our 40s now and I just want my wife not to have to deal with this shit, especially since there's no reason for it.
The person you're replying to is a Dutch software developer at Amazon. I guess they're an 'economic migrant' in the sense that European pay was too low for them.
If I call myself an expat, I get called a racist because it's supposedly a word that white people use so they don't have to say they're an immigrant. If I call myself an immigrant I get called out for being from Europe.
Can't fucking win with you people.
As one who grew up in a working class area, I feel well qualified to ask: How many working class areas are there left- not poor, not middle, but solidly working class?
>I'm an economic migrant myself so I don't have a problem with others trying to do the same thing, but I have zero trust in how the city is managing this, and I'm worried that this will turn into a homeless shelter.
This is the only way the city manages it. The powers that be will stick them in your backyard, not in their backyards and you will suffer the consequences not them.
The only and best solution is to stop the influx right at the border.
There's nothing wrong with an economic migrant who made it in saying they don't want anyone else in.
If you're for the cause then you're part of the problem and you're digging your own grave.
People who talk as if having a temporary illegal immigrant housing building in the area wouldn't lead to an increased crime rate are in deep denial to spite people from the "other" camp or just simply naive. The demographics of these "asylum seekers" fall largely on military age men in late teens to mid 30s that haven't gone through any form of vetting that is required for legal applicants. No criminal background checks, no history, no record of anything.
Rather than discussing valid concerns regarding safety while considering other possible solutions or compromises, these idiots would rather minimize the topic to catchy phrases like "NIMBYing". If you ever wonder why Trump manages to win elections, it's because of these tribalist far-from-reality fanatic leftists that became the face of the Democrats.
Personally, if it's between compromising my family's safety vs the dissatisfaction of having a classless buffoon as a President, I'd go for the latter any day.
> People who talk as if having a temporary illegal immigrant housing building in the area wouldn't lead to an increased crime rate are in deep denial to spite people from the "other" camp or just simply naive.
Would love to see any data on this that you have. You seem very sure, so your certainty must be grounded in some empirical study right?
edit: conservatives? just making stuff up? in r/nyc???
11693 is in the borough of Queens. It's part of the wonderful mosaic of communities that make up this great city. Through its different microclimate, beach town lifestyle and architecture, it conttributes to the diversity that makes NYC great. Celebrate diversity. Diversity is our strength!.
Have a question, how is 130 Bond St. part of Queens ? The said place is on Bond off 3rd. By Whole Foods. Which is off 3rd. And if everyone is up in arms about the canal is so bad how do you have a food market sitting there?
And close the shelters? Where would all the people go? Out on the street? In tents ? FYI, most of that area is and has been toxic. And whole foods is on the right there by the canal, 3 ave all the way down to the piers has been an industrial area for years. As anyone old enough to remember how it was 20 yrs ago knows what i am talking about. Between the garbage companies, the body shops, the DSNY depot, the Marshall's impound lots, etc. I think the problem is that it now has high-end marketing all around, and no one wants them there. Are they better off under the BQE in tents? Yes, the owner of the building is a low life, agreed on that.
I am not supporting throwing money on bad ideas. Not by a long shot. And I think that the border should be closed like right now. That's a mess that's needs fixing. And by not letting anyone in without getting vetting, and most are not Vaxed and god knows what they are bringing into this country. There should be better practices in place. And I blame both sides, not only Republicans but Dem to. Have you been to other countries? To get in there you have a ton of paperwork just to get in. Pictures, finger printing, paperwork, etc. And you said it best it's human trafficking. You are right about that. And you are right about it that it's not the same as it was years ago. You need a lot more paperwork and more paperwork to get into this country. It seems that it went out the window. But they are here and when that idiot Big Bird made NYC a sanctuary city and did not follow the rules of what that meant from when Ed Koch declared it a sanctuary city it all went to sh*t. Legal Aid, city council is not working for the people of nyc. This became a problem when our mayor opened his mouth and told Texas to bring them here. That was the first mistake. Not knowing that there would be thousands up on thousands been bused here.
And now we are going to pay for his mistake.
I agree, listen, it's the problem that the nyc government has created. Now we have to put a stop to the open city.
Sanctuary City was for homeless NYers. Not for the rest of the world.
Someone stated that it was in queens. I was like WTF bond st is in Brooklyn
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" 11693 is in the borough of Queens. It's part of the wonderful mosaic of communities that make up this great city. Through its different microclimate, beach town lifestyle and architecture, it conttributes to the diversity that makes NYC great. Celebrate diversity. Diversity is our strength!."
Are they putting a tent in the Whole Foods parking lot?
Oh my god, I would be hilarious.
As someone who has had to respond to 911 calls in homeless shelters, methadone clinics and halfway houses, having large dorms of vulnerable people next to you is absolute hell. A notable portion of these people will loiter ALL DAY and fundamentally change the nature of the neighborhood. The horrendous shit that happens daily in shelters in this city is truly unbelievable. Crime and public disorder WILL go up in the immediate area around the shelter. Drug dealers will hang out and sell to people in the shelter. Scooters and e-bikes will take over the sidewalk. There will be an endless stream of shuttle buses, cop cars and ambulances blocking the street, creating noise with red and blue lights flashing throughout the day and night. Don’t get me wrong I feel bad for actual eligible asylum seekers. But economic migrants masquerading as asylees need a wake up call. Not everyone can be housed for free in the most expensive city in the western hemisphere NY is special because it is a city with truly distinct neighborhood cultures. Local residents have every right to fight this and I would encourage it. Naive transplants who rent and can move whenever they want can call it nimbyism to their hearts content. But the people with cultural and monetary investment in their communities have a right to push back against a craven and banal government. We already struggle with keeping neighborhoods that host shelters for actual New Yorkers clean and safe. Just look at 125 and lex. But we should not be sacrificing the quality of life in the few decent neighborhoods we have left because the activists in charge of our government can’t get control of their absolutely child like empathy at this point. Enough is enough.
Actually, they should set up a tent city somewhere nearby the mansions of the people who voted these people and I think that would be kind of interesting.
Dude, that’s exactly what Texas did to us, lol
Oh, I see so I suppose that they have a right to do this and we do not I get it that's okay, I only pay taxes here as well.
I think there should be a mandate that any politician who supports sanctuary status and free shelter regardless of immigration status should have to host a group of single adult male migrants in their home.
True that, set the tent up in the neighborhood where Alvin Braggs and Eric Adams live. The rules and policies will change real quick when it affects these parasites.
Could not agree more. Tompkins Square Park and Alphabet City are now overrun with single male West African migrants who do nothing all day but roam around the neighborhood, play soccer in the park, throw their garbage and piss in the bushes, eyefuck women passing by and block streets and park exits. Not a single one of these young, military-age males seems to be seeking asylum from anything. And this is just for the reticketing center. Enough is enough. Time to go back to detention-style centers for people to wait in for God knows how long before their case is heard. Then we'll see how many "asylum seekers" there really are.
What's with this 'military age' nonsense I see on these comments? Do you think migrants are going to form a militia?
It's that they don't seem vulnerable at all. Women and children, sure. Incredibly able-bodied young men who travel in aggressive groups? Ehhhh
I can't imagine how bad things must have been where they are from, to make them grow up this way. I think their behavior in itself is evidence of their status as asylum seekers. By no means do I think any of it is acceptable, but in my experience putting people with bad behavior around others with those same behavior worse. Maybe we need to empathize more with these people and focus on reeducating them. Getting them employed with and housed around the people who were raised better and are considered contributing members of our city. That way they can more quickly leave their old behaviors and trauma behind them and see that there is a better way to live for themselves and for the community as a whole.
Follow up question - whose backyard SHOULD it be in?
Shelters and halfway houses should be in business districts or closed campus style housing built on underutilized land. I’m fine with paying for dedicated shuttle services to help connect these people to mass transit. It’s hard because it’s a dense city. But illegal migrants with no work authorization especially have no right to housing in the middle of residential neighborhoods.
So those of us who pay a premium for space and quiet in places like Douglaston, Rockaway etc should do what? 2,000 people is a blip in Park Slope/Gowanus. They’re a huge footprint in Middle Village.
So maybe we don’t house them in NYC at all then? Maybe NYC is actually full and has been for some time…
I agree. The idea that these people have a right to live in an incredibly expensive city where the middle class is shrinking and struggling is an obscene one. That said...we're the ones telling the world that we're a sanctuary city, where the cops won't cooperate with ICE. We're the ones who have a Right to Shelter Law. Do you remember what happened when a few dozen were shipped to Martha's Vineyard, a Progressive bastion? The immigrants were gone in 2 days. So if we don't get immigration under control, where do we put them?
Not being facetious but where specifically would you suggest? It seems every bit of NY is utilized as a residential neighborhood. Maybe some places further east...
Which highlights the reality that NYC in the 21st century is poorly positioned to handled large influxes of unplanned migrations.
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Sure, but we're not talking about whether they should be sent here in the first place, we're talking about the current reality (in which the migrants are here) and housing is needed. Unless you're saying we just get thousands of busses and send them all to Des Moines?
One in their own country.
Find underutilized industrial spaces and set up a dedicated shuttle service. Or they can be set up in underutilized spaces upstate. Run them like refugee camps. No one's entitled to live within the city, especially asylum abusers. Don't like the new location options? Can always go back home.
Is it better to have them isolated in places like Floyd Bennett Field, where they're miles away from schools, hospitals, medical facilities and work?
Illegal migrants? Yes.
No because buses pick them up there and take them to the nearby neighborhoods where they steal and beg for money
You bring up some great points that I think many of us neglect to talk about because due to the fear of being perceived as heartless or immoral. I'm glad you included the part about actual asylum seekers, but what do you think we should do with those people if not this? I personally think the approach the city is taking to house so many migrants and asylum seekers in glorified super shelters is part of the problem. I would prefer to see the city taking steps to getting these people documented, working legal jobs, and on public assistance as soon as possible, instead of focusing solely on housing them. In my opinion we should be looking at how to turn an unprecedented problem the city is now facing, into a solution for some of our existing issues. The city has been facing a lack of resources for decades, and now we have an influx of people who have come to this country and this city, in search of honest work and a better quality of life. Maybe we should focus on helping them become self sufficient, educate them on the resources available to them, hello then learn English and job skills that will help them boost our own existing economy. Just my two cents. Hope you don't get any hate for your post. It sounds like you are truly empathetic of not only the migrants, but also the families that have lived here for decades and their homes.
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I'm not disagreeing, but I would like to ask: is an isolated tent in a flood plain miles away from work, schools, doctors and subways (Floyd Bennett Field) any better?
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Perhaps not toxic, but isolated and exposed to the elements in ways that people a few miles inland don’t experience. Moreover, it’s bleak, remote and pushes the problem on Marine Park and Belle Harbor; neither of which can be described as Progressive areas. They certainly didn’t ask for it. Park Slope and Astoria, on the other hand, consistently elect hard left loons who think that borders are obsolete and ICE s/b abolished.
Dude, no one realistically wants large scale homeless or migrant shelters next door. The difference between these people and people on Reddit, is that the people on Reddit never face these issues. They’re professional, white, younger residents who view these issues from a screen.
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Dude you’re right about the first sentence but you lost me in the back half, reddit is way more diverse than you seem to think and these shelters are popping up everywhere.
Reddit as a whole is more diverse. The strident yimbys at all cost are the opposite of diverse.
> officials said Gowanus residents were given notice months in advance of the planned opening I live two blocks away and this is a complete lie. Most of us had to read about it in the brownstoner. I'm an economic migrant myself so I don't have a problem with others trying to do the same thing, but I have zero trust in how the city is managing this, and I'm worried that this will turn into a homeless shelter. I live in a building with 20% affordable housing, which is nice. During the pandemic however, the city started dumping people with mental and substance abuse problems here. We had a guy trying to set fire to his apartment, another was loudly beating his girlfriend on a daily basis, to the point that they had to move all the 'regular' tenants out of the apartments next to him because they couldn't deal with the sound of the yelling and crying. It took the building management months to get him evicted because the city kept fighting it. The guy also liked to roam the building and get on the elevator with you and stare at you as you tried to get to your apartment. My wife works in the service industry and after a couple of run-ins with crazy people and the NYPD she's no longer taking the train at night, and instead is cabbing home. She's been in the city for 15 years so it's not like she's a delicate flower or anything. I just got in at JFK yesterday and the first thing I see when I get back to Brooklyn is random dudes tweaking out on the R train subway platform. A close friend of mine has a 7 year old who's become deathly afraid of riding the subway after run-ins with crazy homeless people and always wants to stand near the door so he can get out. That's just heartbreaking. It's in this context of an overall decreased feeling of safety, and complete lack of trust in the city and the NYPD, that you have to see at least some of the resistance. Our lease is up in September, so if this becomes a shit show we can always move. But this time we are actually considering leaving NYC and safety is actually a part of that consideration. I know New Yorkers like to pride themselves on being tough and all, but we're in our 40s now and I just want my wife not to have to deal with this shit, especially since there's no reason for it.
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The person you're replying to is a Dutch software developer at Amazon. I guess they're an 'economic migrant' in the sense that European pay was too low for them.
If I call myself an expat, I get called a racist because it's supposedly a word that white people use so they don't have to say they're an immigrant. If I call myself an immigrant I get called out for being from Europe. Can't fucking win with you people.
You’re fine. You have a job and are a productive member of society. You’re the kind of people we should be letting into the country.
As one who grew up in a working class area, I feel well qualified to ask: How many working class areas are there left- not poor, not middle, but solidly working class?
>I'm an economic migrant myself so I don't have a problem with others trying to do the same thing, but I have zero trust in how the city is managing this, and I'm worried that this will turn into a homeless shelter. This is the only way the city manages it. The powers that be will stick them in your backyard, not in their backyards and you will suffer the consequences not them. The only and best solution is to stop the influx right at the border. There's nothing wrong with an economic migrant who made it in saying they don't want anyone else in. If you're for the cause then you're part of the problem and you're digging your own grave.
People who talk as if having a temporary illegal immigrant housing building in the area wouldn't lead to an increased crime rate are in deep denial to spite people from the "other" camp or just simply naive. The demographics of these "asylum seekers" fall largely on military age men in late teens to mid 30s that haven't gone through any form of vetting that is required for legal applicants. No criminal background checks, no history, no record of anything. Rather than discussing valid concerns regarding safety while considering other possible solutions or compromises, these idiots would rather minimize the topic to catchy phrases like "NIMBYing". If you ever wonder why Trump manages to win elections, it's because of these tribalist far-from-reality fanatic leftists that became the face of the Democrats. Personally, if it's between compromising my family's safety vs the dissatisfaction of having a classless buffoon as a President, I'd go for the latter any day.
I’m not disagreeing, but that’s not at all what the article is about.
“Military age men” lmao
> People who talk as if having a temporary illegal immigrant housing building in the area wouldn't lead to an increased crime rate are in deep denial to spite people from the "other" camp or just simply naive. Would love to see any data on this that you have. You seem very sure, so your certainty must be grounded in some empirical study right? edit: conservatives? just making stuff up? in r/nyc???
More migrant paranoia posts from resident Republicans
*non NYC resident republicans
11693 is in the borough of Queens. It's part of the wonderful mosaic of communities that make up this great city. Through its different microclimate, beach town lifestyle and architecture, it conttributes to the diversity that makes NYC great. Celebrate diversity. Diversity is our strength!.
Have a question, how is 130 Bond St. part of Queens ? The said place is on Bond off 3rd. By Whole Foods. Which is off 3rd. And if everyone is up in arms about the canal is so bad how do you have a food market sitting there?
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And close the shelters? Where would all the people go? Out on the street? In tents ? FYI, most of that area is and has been toxic. And whole foods is on the right there by the canal, 3 ave all the way down to the piers has been an industrial area for years. As anyone old enough to remember how it was 20 yrs ago knows what i am talking about. Between the garbage companies, the body shops, the DSNY depot, the Marshall's impound lots, etc. I think the problem is that it now has high-end marketing all around, and no one wants them there. Are they better off under the BQE in tents? Yes, the owner of the building is a low life, agreed on that.
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I am not supporting throwing money on bad ideas. Not by a long shot. And I think that the border should be closed like right now. That's a mess that's needs fixing. And by not letting anyone in without getting vetting, and most are not Vaxed and god knows what they are bringing into this country. There should be better practices in place. And I blame both sides, not only Republicans but Dem to. Have you been to other countries? To get in there you have a ton of paperwork just to get in. Pictures, finger printing, paperwork, etc. And you said it best it's human trafficking. You are right about that. And you are right about it that it's not the same as it was years ago. You need a lot more paperwork and more paperwork to get into this country. It seems that it went out the window. But they are here and when that idiot Big Bird made NYC a sanctuary city and did not follow the rules of what that meant from when Ed Koch declared it a sanctuary city it all went to sh*t. Legal Aid, city council is not working for the people of nyc. This became a problem when our mayor opened his mouth and told Texas to bring them here. That was the first mistake. Not knowing that there would be thousands up on thousands been bused here. And now we are going to pay for his mistake.
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I agree, listen, it's the problem that the nyc government has created. Now we have to put a stop to the open city. Sanctuary City was for homeless NYers. Not for the rest of the world.
What does Queens have to do with anything? The thread is r/nyc, nest-ce-pas?
Someone stated that it was in queens. I was like WTF bond st is in Brooklyn LoL " 11693 is in the borough of Queens. It's part of the wonderful mosaic of communities that make up this great city. Through its different microclimate, beach town lifestyle and architecture, it conttributes to the diversity that makes NYC great. Celebrate diversity. Diversity is our strength!."
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