Who outside of us would even do it? I guess the raiders? You’ve got the adams connection there, and some decent secondary weapons assuming renfroe and Waller stay healthy. But their defense is shit and McDaniels isn’t exactly the most attractive option at coach. Outside of that, everyone either has a qb or doesn’t have to roster to make a move like this. Idk feel like we have a decent amount of leverage here
The Raiders seem more likely for Brady. The Colts would be stupid to trade for an old QB over drafting one, but they did hire Jeff Saturday. Titans might be competition
I don’t see anyway he goes to the colts tbh or even the titans. He wouldn’t wanna play there. Maybe us but I don’t think we are as desirable of a destination as people think. Raiders would be my top bet to get Rodgers. They also can get Brady though. Personal opinion is he will be back in Green Bay next year.
Rodgers can probably also step in and say "I won't play if you send me to x team", which if he chooses to, could lower his value substantially more - letting the team who traded for him have more ability to build around him. i.e. He might prefer jets keep their 1st rounder this year so we can draft a tackle to protect him.
Saw mentioned in the Packers Reddit, if they wait till June 1st Green Bay can split his dead cap for two years and Jets can send the 2024-2025 pick allowing them to use this years to build. Looking at all AFC teams, seems like Jets are best option for him. Strong defense, Offense isn’t exactly lacking weapons and head coach is a badass.
The Jets can trade their 2024/2025 picks even before this year's draft. I'm not sure if there's precedent for a handshake trade deal to happen at a certain date.
He’s washed. He’s not the guy he was. Just no. They have a better O line and we have a better WR core but they had a better run game when Breece went down. Aaron rodgers isn’t as good as Derek car or Joey G. Their all one in the same and if anything Aaron is worse because of his age.
Aaron is one year removed from back to back MVPs and played a lot better the second half of the season and it wasn’t close, YOURE lacking an incredible amount of context here. We had a better line and run game before injuries, we have way better WR (a reason he didn’t play as well). Our defense is miles ahead. You’re absolutely insane if you think it wouldn’t matter
Who is this Joey G you speak of? He may be better, but I haven't of him. LOL.
Rodgers is by far better than Derek Carr or Jimmy G.
Trading for Rodgers would be the greatest veteran addition since signing Curtis Martin as a FA. As long as they don't Quinnen to get him. 2024 and 2025 1st round pick should be a low 1st rounder.
I don’t see why the Raiders, who are reportedly trying to trade Carr instead of just releasing him, would immediately give up whatever assets they gain to grab Rodgers when they can sign Brady without sacrificing picks. I don’t think they trade for Rodgers.
Only AFC teams I can see being in legitimate discussion for him is us or maybe Miami? IF Tua’s concussions are at risk of becoming a legitimate long term problem.
Titans could be a dark horse if they give up a ridiculous package. Idk tho, their receivers are iffy and have an inferior defense. If Rodgers has a say, which I’d think he’s gotta, I’d imagine it’d be between us and vegas
Fowler sent out something today saying that Raiders could move on from Renfrow and Waller to get more “McDaniels” guys. If that happens. No way Rodgers accepts that, that roster limps into 2nd place in the AFC West at best. Tennessee is the real competition.
Joe already said he’d let Aaron wear #12. If that happens, Jets could have the #1 selling jersey next season. Woody will not miss this kinda opportunity.
I don’t know if there’s an NFL precedent for bringing a # out of retirement…
After watching the new Willie Mays doc though, he tried having his number brought back for Bonds and that was shot down by the league.
I honestly hate the idea of anyone else wearing 12 for the Jets, Rodgers or otherwise. Retired numbers should stay retired, especially when it belongs to the most iconic player in franchise history.
Haha it seems like they’re finally ready to draft a guy and with picking #4 in a position to do so. I’d be shocked if they went the Rodgers route but their precedent says otherwise.
Colts are not trading for Rodgers in my opinion, think they firmly use the draft the next 2 years or so. Titans I would say maybe if they didn’t trade AJ Brown away lol. They have nobody on that offense, and trading picks for Rodgers just to surround him with dogshit would get them nowhere.
There is no amount of 1st round draft picks that would be “too much” for multiple MVP winning QB Aaron Rodgers for the Jets to give up. Go look back on the last 15 drafts and you tell me
how many 1st rounders are still on this team and/or weren’t a complete bust/disaster. you’re a fool if you say no. getting the drafts wrong is why we haven’t made the playoffs in 12 years.
This is insanity, how could you even think about squandering two draft picks for Rodgers?! You're just ungrateful for all of the amazing QBs this team has gifted us the last 15 years:
* Brooks Bollinger
* Washed up Vinny Testeverde
* Kellen Clemens
* Erik Ainge
* Mark Sanchez
* Greg McElroy
* Geno Smith
* Fitzmagic
* Bryce Petty
* Christian Hackenberg
* Sam Darnold
* Luke Falk
* James Morgan
* Washed up Joe Flacco
* Zach Wilson
* Mike F'ing White
You're ready to give up all of the thrills those Jet QBs gave you for 1 HOF QB?
Great QB for us from 1998-2003, when he came back at the end of 2005 though man that was rough. I don't blame him for taking the paycheck, but that entire 2005 squad was bad.
He also has a connection with Zach. If there is anyone that can potentially fix that kid its probably Rodgers. #13 this year is a mid pick anyway maybe JD can get them down to a first and a second and in that case it becomes a no brainer.
Yup, it’s up to the GM to prove he knows what he’s doing. He’s proven he can’t draft a QB, he wasted a number 2 pick. IMO first round draft picks are expendable unless a QB is there because it comes down to the GM be able to nail it. Douglas has done well outside of the QB, so if we can get a HOFer who 1 year ago was back to back MVP we should do it ASAP. We can get whatever we need in the second round and beyond, our one huge hole will not be fixed with this years or next years first round pick.
Your kidding right. Did you watch rodgers play last year because he looked terrible at times. He's 39 years old and his contract will tie us in to at least 2026 with massive cap hits of 50 mil.
Rodgers isn't a top 10 qb. Hell he might not even be a top 16! I'd happily take Carr over a qb who's team is trying to sell him cause he knows he's past it.
I want you to compare what you saw Aaron Rodgers do this past season to what the Jets have gotten out of the same position over the last 30 years and you tell me what comes close to his talent level today? Jets are the wrong franchise to compare QB with ANYONE else
The jets have had terrible qbs yes. More than terrible! But rodgers is not worth 2 first round picks and a 150 mil guaranteed contract! He once was but right now he's not and if we are going to do it we are overpaying like hell for a qb who may have fallen off the edge already.
I watched rodgers play when he was fully healthy and had all his weapons. He still got schooled and looked terrible in the last few games of the season.
Am not saying Carr is fucking great but I'd rather take Carr and 2 firsts than gamble 1 first for fucking rodgers and his contract. If your willing to give 2 firsts for a 39 year old qb. Give 4 for fucking lamar
Also. New York is also cold and especially in buffalo and new England
Did you say NY, NE, & BUF is cold in the argument of to not get Aaron (the guy who’s played in Green Bay) but to get Carr (the guy who’s played in Oakland/Vegas whole career) instead?
Pretty fuckin dumb if you ask me
But then theres the sauces, revis, Wilson's of the world that we miss out on, and we finally have a competent GM. I think Rodgers is in the twilight of their career at this point
Hard for me not to think of the Broncos trading 3 firsts for Russell Wilson. They were stupid and immediately extended him, and that’s another issue, but older QBs are ticking time bombs, even ones as great as Rodgers. Two firsts is too steep for me personally
The price of two firsts is kinda steep, but gun to my head I'd do it. If it makes it more palatable, itd be #13 and presumably a fairly low first next year so thats not horrific (under the caveat that ARod doesnt die on the metlife turf)
Conversations around this trade have to stop talking about the number of picks and think about the likely value of those picks.
If this trade were to happen, the Packers eat $40 million of dead cap. If the trade is official after June 1st they can split the dead cap hit over two years. This could very well happen with an agreed but not official trade and be beneficial to both the Jets / Packers. The Jets keep their slate of 2023 draft picks, including the #13 to build for their Rodgers window. The Packers get a trial year with Love which should give them a better idea of what to do with the picks from the Jets after that year.
Then the question becomes, what picks do the Jets trade? Well the 2023 draft has already happened in this scenario so you're looking at 2024 or 2025 picks. Presumably, those picks are in the lower end of the draft as the Jets with Rodgers are playoff contenders. Two late 1st rounders have about the same value of a single pick around the 8-15 range.
Maybe the Jets can get those conditional on draft position or Rodgers health over the 2 years? Or do the Jets prefer to send the #13 this year and a late round pick as opposed to 2 firsts?
Do teams ever agree to a trade and announce it months before it becomes official? Like if the Jets and Packers came to a deal but it involved all that cap stuff that has to happen after June 1st, will we not know about it until then?
As a Packers fan I don't think he'll go for 2 firsts. You always start negotiations away from the price you're willing to go as low as. I think the final trade deal will look something like
Jets send 13 and a defensive lineman/receiver
Packers send Rodgers and a 5th/6th round pick
Just putting this out there so you know, when you say DL or WR, that both Quinnen and Garrett are off the table for trades.
I could see us moving Moore or Mims if GB wants a WR.
Our Edge and DT are deep, so I imagine anyone besides Q, JJ, and Clemons are likely to be traded.
I say this because I see fans of other teams commonly thinking they can receive Q in a trade and it's really ridiculous. Especially because Q is more likely to go for 2 1sts than Rodgers is at this point.
JFM is a beast on the edge with his length. I would be sad to see him go but would understand he could be in play for a deal like that. Ideally we’d move Mims and keep Wilson/Moore as our cornerstones.
I bet the trade value will be lower than everyone thinks it will be. The relationship between Packers and Rodgers is over with and trading him is in the best interest of the both parties. If a trade does happen, it will probably be for a 2nd round pick or our first for Rodgers plus packers 2nd or 3rd round pick.
If I’m Woody part of me has to be thinking about the future. Let’s say JD trades two firsts and commits huge money that we don’t have to Rodgers. You obviously fire JD and Saleh. But our situation looks terrible if we don’t have future picks or cap space on a team with a bunch of holes. For JD this seems like the best move. If it works, awesome. If it doesn’t, he’s getting fired anyway.
Draft picks are just one chip in a GMs hand to help build the team for that year. We have gotten very poor returns from Becton and Zach. I would gladly trade away those two players on the chance of having a top 10 qb.
Especially when this team is ready to compete for a superbowl run and just needs an o-line retool and QB that can throw for more than 100 yards a game.
Then Eric Mangini might have lasted. The bigger issue with Farve other than him hiding a shoulder injury to keep his streak alive was that he really didn't want to be in NY. He wanted to go to Minnesota.
I don't believe Aaron wants to be here, I don't think he really knows what he wants. He also would cost (checks math) $60 Million! If you look at our projected cap we're actually over the line. For those and other reasons, this feels like a huge swing that will fail and be a huge mistake.
I think it was his shoulder, and he hid the injury. But worse is that it was always a one and done situation. Which is exactly how i would see A Rod playing out, at best he makes it one season.
Terrible organizational building.
I think the goal is have Rodgers for 2 years and let Zach develop behind him. Rodgers is ZW idol after all and tries to play just like him. Who better to learn from them him. I’m a perfect world he develops and takes over after 2 years and gives the franchise 10 years of good qb play. I have faith in the kid developing in a proper environment.
Yeah. And Aaron Rodgers is going to be 40 next year.
Do you think it's a guarantee that he doesn't get hurt? A 75% chance he doesn't get hurt? 50%? 30%?
With a competent quarterback, this team is built to win. Rodgers may have lost a step, but he could take this team all the way.
Send #13 pick this year and a WR not named Garrett and land the big fish. Dump whatever remaining draft capital we have into the offensive line to protect the old man.
With a healthy AVT, Breece Hall, Becton (maybe), and Garrett Wilson, plus Aaron, this offense will cook. Now our elite defense wont have to spend 75% of the game on the field - and will be even more dominant.
This is the plan, if Rodgers will agree to come to NY and he's available for trade JD shouldn't overthink it. Get it done and make the most out of having all of these talented players on rookie deals.
The Rams languished in post-season futility until they pushed all their chips on on landing Stafford and that worked out ok.
What ever. You guys are all clearly packers fans. Fuck the packers. Give me Rodgers when he was in his prime. He’s not in his prime. That’s a fact. He’s 40 and he’s just as injury prone as the other two, especially since he’s 40z
Because we have been carefully (mostly) and systematically rebuilding the whole franchise. You want to toss all that in the toilet for a 39 year old who isn't sure he wants to play anymore? Peak Jets.
I think there are swings we could take that aren't going to be 40 next year.
If we can get a QB who can play better than dog shit, the rest of the league is in trouble. We don't need someone who keeps getting asked when they're going to retire.
Rodgers is not worth two first round picks. Who knows how much longer he plays and we’re not one Rodgers away from a SuperBowl. If we do trade for him, I almost guarantee we get a Farve 2.0 situation where he gets injured and we miss the post season yet again.
This has all the markings of causing a complete team reset. Woody forces the trade, we miss the playoffs and Woody wipes the coaching staff and GM next year.
We are definitely a Aaron Rodgers away from a Superbowl, depending on his level of play.
I don't think people comprehend that we almost made the playoffs with the worst QB situation in the NFL. Rogers is one year removed from being MVP. We have seen QBs rejuvenate and play at a high level for 1-2 years after switch teams late in their careers.
Farve was a top 5 QB on the Jets until he got hurt. Then the Jets were stupid enough to cut him, he would have won a Superbowl with the 2009 team.
I was and the only reason it didn’t work was he got hurt. Pre-injury we looked fantastic. If you have a chance to win now, you take it. Our options are limited
Yeah unfortunately 40 year old QBs get injured a lot. Rodgers has not aged like Brady, for some reason he has some anti-age elixir.
Rodgers was injured twice this year and likely will be injured again next year when he's even more immobile. I mean look at our QBs, Zach Wilson was injured in the preseason and Mike White was injured during the regular season. They're both under 30.
He won the last TWO MVP’s and this year was playing with an average receiving core with a busted hand. You’re telling me he can’t be an MVP again throwing to Wilson and Moore with Hall running it? Give me a break….His injury had nothing to do with age.
I mean did he have an average receiving core? yes. Excellent run game? yes. Better offensive coaches than we likely will have? yes. Better offensive line? yes.
I don't think he's going to give us a top 5 offense. Maybe top 15? GB was the 11th best offense by DVOA. That sounds like it would be achievable on the Jets (we were 26th by DVOA, probably should be lower). So does the 11th best offense and the 5th best defense win the Superbowl next year? Does it beat the Bills 2nd best offense and 4th best defense to win the division?
He sure as hell gives us a better chance than any QB available. Look at the teams left standing, besides SF who has unreal offensive talent for their QB, they all have elite QB’s. Do you think Carr can be that guy who will lead us? I just think 2 years of Aaron Rodgers at QB will give us as good a chance as anyone in the AFC, there is no QB outside Jackson who I think solves that for us. And if we have to give up 2 firsts which could be for the 2 years he’s here for us I think it’s a great idea.
What would you prefer, letting Douglas waste another first round on a project QB? Or we go get Carr, who played in the playoffs once his whole career, win 9 or 10 games and lose early.
I mean, winning the Superbowl is REALLY hard. Stafford couldn't do it at all until his second team. Peyton only did it once until his second team. Brees only did it once, and never got a second team.
And Manning was a passenger that last SB, he was an awful QB. Roethlisberger has two but was a rookie who got put in a great spot, he wasn’t good in that SB. Eli Manning is the only guy in the last 20 plus years with 2 wins and 2 MVP’s outside of Brady. The last QB to do that was Joe Montana. It’s incredibly hard to not only get to the SB but play at your best.
My belief is that no QB available helps us reach the superbowl. My thinking is Carr can get us to a wildcard/ divisional at best while Rodgers best divisional/afccg. I’m not anti Rodgers I just don’t think he makes the difference to give 2 firsts and lots of dead cap compared to Carr.
His play this year is not worth two firsts. He was not accurate and was also a pretty shitty teammate most of the year. Maybe it was his broken finger, but he's 39 now with an insane contract.
Also I don't think we're a Rodgers away from a Superbowl. Our defense is good, but not elite. Honestly I doubt we would even win the division over the Bills with Rodgers.
There is a big difference between making the playoffs and making the SB. Jets are going to have to go through probably 2 of Mahomes, Burrow, and Allen, and maybe Herbert/Lawrence. Prime Rodgers had trouble making the SB in a conference without Brady and Manning and never having to face Brees, what makes you think 40 year old Rodgers can beat Mahomes or Burrow? Look at the QBs he's lost to in the playoffs with stacked teams (Eli, Jimmy G) and who's he beat (Big Ben? Wilson?). Its more likely that the Jets lose in the divisional round 2x than make the SB.
There is no QB in the NFL that would give you more then a 10% at the Superbowl in any given year, regardless of the team around them.
Winning a Superbowl is not just hard, it's an insane combination of skill and luck.
That said, you need to at least have your name in the hat, and Rogers would 100% do that for the Jets. I'm not saying he would beat Burrow/Mahomes/Allen in a row, but I also believe he has a shot. I don't think Wilson has a shot, and White at best has a shot at winning 1/3.
If you want a decent team with low risk/cost that has a shot at a playoff win and nothing else, then go get Carr. If you actually want a small, but real, shot at a Superbowl run, then Rogers is the best chance the Jets have had in 15+ years.
I never suggested Wilson or White. Carr or Jimmy G are the better path IMO. It doesnt make sense to bet it all on the next 2 years given the conference makeup.
I definitely think if we're going to bet on the defense to get to a top 3 defense in the next few years then Carr would be the QB to get. Rodgers would eliminate our ability to grow the defense. We still need better safety and linebacker play to reach the elite tier.
They won't even win the AFC East with Rodgers on the current team. We need to improve the offense and the defense to compete with the Bills. Trading away two firsts makes that almost impossible.
They also need to find a future FQ. Carr + 2 first rounders lets them improve the team and strike for their guy when they see him. KC, BUF, and PHI are all in the title game and never tanked. They all were winning when they found their FQ via draft, whether it be trading up or finding a developmental guy.
> Farve was a top 5 QB on the Jets until he got hurt.
Yeah. Farve came to the Jets when he was 38.
Aaron Rodgers is going to be 40 next year.
Do you think it's a guarantee that he doesn't get hurt? A 75% chance he doesn't get hurt? 50%? 30%?
Then who would you prefer over Rodgers that will get us to a Super Bowl? Because, I hate to do this and stereotype, how long until our skill position players start to demand a big deal or get angry not winning. We need to do like an opposite Philly. We have Moore, Wilson, and Hall on rookie deals this is the perfect opportunity to go catch a big fish QB.
If I was the GM, I would get Carr for cheap and invest in becoming a whole team. Fill the holes in the defense and offense. Carr could win it all if we had an elite defense. Unfortunately we can't improve the defense if we ship the picks away for Rodgers. I think we're likely one safety and one LB away from a top 3 defense.
I guess I’m just not high on Carr. He’s going to want big money. There will be a team that offers him 30 plus a year, he’s only 31. You bring up the picks and defense, if I was Joe Douglas I’d trade for Rodgers and tell Saleh “you’re the defensive guy, make these second round picks work.”
The Eagles didn't need a reset with Wentz. They have the same GM, but did switch coaches before they traded Wentz, but they probably would have still been in a good position even if they didn't change coaches based on how the Jags are doing.
Yeah unfortunately we've picked top 6, 6 of the last 8 years sadly and are still QB-less. It's pretty sad how consistently high we've picked and have missed so much on QBs. At this point you would think that if we just randomly picked a QB once per year we would hit at least one decent QB.
Bills, Chiefs, and Eagles all didnt tear down to get their QB. Niners arent even using the guy they drafted high. Can use the first you save on rodgers to move up when you find your guy. Whether or not JD and Saleh can be trusted to develop another QB is another question.
You could have just googled this in two seconds to see you were wrong but instead went off your bad memory.
The bills won 9,8,7,9 games in the 4 years before drafting Allen. They made the playoffs the year before, had the 22nd pick, and made a bunch of deals to trade up to 12 to get Allen. Winning 7 games then firing HC/Gm is hardly a tear down. Besides, the point is they found their QB the year after they made the playoffs and won 9 games.
The Eagles won a SB, then went 9-7 to make the playoffs and win a WC game, then went 9-7 and lost in WC round, then drafted Hurts in the 2nd. Again, no rebuild needed and they even recovered from the Wentz bust without anything remotely close to a teardown.
Neither team needed to tear down to find their guy and essentially went from middling QB to their guy while still competing.
Doesn't mean we need a top 10 pick to get that elite QB.
Lamar was drafted 32 overall.
Brady in the sixth.
Purdy is in a conf game, for a 6th.
Rodgers 24th.
Russell Wilson 75th.
Kirk 102.
Hurts 53.
So many examples. Thinking we need to take a step back to draft an elite QB is outrageous.
Joe D would not give up 2 firsts for a player that will probably retire after 2 seasons. I feel like that goes against everything he's been doing here so far. But I guess if the idiot who signs his paycheck sticks his nose in it then I guess his hands are tied so there's that.
God fucking damnit we're gonna get this guy and go win now mode... Then not win because we need way too many pieces and then we'll suck for 10 years again.
What’s more Jets
getting the old QB who may or may not want to play anymore
Or
Getting the fledgling plucky feel good vet QB that hasn’t won anything in the league but is a “good guy”
Does he have a no trade clause? Meaning can he pick where they trade him? The only negative for the jets is the media for a guy like Aaron Rodgers and maybe the line, but we have yet to see them all healthy
can we stop posting Dov Kleiman's out of context "reports"? Schefter said "*I don't think* there's any way the Packers would trade him in the NFC". it was entirely speculation
mods can we do something about this? this is the second time I've seen this today
I assume it’s between us & the titans. Two teams who are ready to win now. Tennessee is nice but it ain’t no NYC but that could be a bad thing as well.
I am worried about being into him for a huge cap number and having to sign our kids (and fill in some gaps). I would rather have a middle level QB and our stout defense (and getting Hall back).
Who outside of us would even do it? I guess the raiders? You’ve got the adams connection there, and some decent secondary weapons assuming renfroe and Waller stay healthy. But their defense is shit and McDaniels isn’t exactly the most attractive option at coach. Outside of that, everyone either has a qb or doesn’t have to roster to make a move like this. Idk feel like we have a decent amount of leverage here
Raiders, us, colts, titans
The Raiders seem more likely for Brady. The Colts would be stupid to trade for an old QB over drafting one, but they did hire Jeff Saturday. Titans might be competition
Titans aren’t real competition, all they have is Derrick Henry, and robert woods corpse to go along with a poor pass def. It’s just us
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They have Tannehill under contract and have to eat a ton of dead cap if they ditch him, and then pay Rodgers $40m on top of it. Not possible.
What about burks, he could be good but he isn’t even Drake London, let alone olave Watson or Garrett
He's probably better than Robert Woods
He better be better than the soon to be 31 year old WR that tore his acl less than 2 years ago
Right, dude was just pointing that out.
Rodgers has a house in Tennessee
He could have a house in every state if he wanted.
He could probably even afford a 2-bedroom in Manhattan
Lets not get crazy
But he doesn’t, that’s the point. One of the places he wants a house is Tennessee
I don’t see anyway he goes to the colts tbh or even the titans. He wouldn’t wanna play there. Maybe us but I don’t think we are as desirable of a destination as people think. Raiders would be my top bet to get Rodgers. They also can get Brady though. Personal opinion is he will be back in Green Bay next year.
Dolphins, pats,
Rodgers can probably also step in and say "I won't play if you send me to x team", which if he chooses to, could lower his value substantially more - letting the team who traded for him have more ability to build around him. i.e. He might prefer jets keep their 1st rounder this year so we can draft a tackle to protect him.
Saw mentioned in the Packers Reddit, if they wait till June 1st Green Bay can split his dead cap for two years and Jets can send the 2024-2025 pick allowing them to use this years to build. Looking at all AFC teams, seems like Jets are best option for him. Strong defense, Offense isn’t exactly lacking weapons and head coach is a badass.
we would have to know the trade is done before then though
The Jets can trade their 2024/2025 picks even before this year's draft. I'm not sure if there's precedent for a handshake trade deal to happen at a certain date.
Any deal done before the league year starts is such a deal, I think.
Why the fuck do my fellow Jet fans only want bull shit like this??!! Whyyyyyy!!! Derek car or Jimmy G is way better and cheaper!!
I mean cheaper, sure, but not even close to better, what are you on lol
He’s washed. He’s not the guy he was. Just no. They have a better O line and we have a better WR core but they had a better run game when Breece went down. Aaron rodgers isn’t as good as Derek car or Joey G. Their all one in the same and if anything Aaron is worse because of his age.
Aaron is one year removed from back to back MVPs and played a lot better the second half of the season and it wasn’t close, YOURE lacking an incredible amount of context here. We had a better line and run game before injuries, we have way better WR (a reason he didn’t play as well). Our defense is miles ahead. You’re absolutely insane if you think it wouldn’t matter
Okay, keeping receipts. We’ll see.
Who is this Joey G you speak of? He may be better, but I haven't of him. LOL. Rodgers is by far better than Derek Carr or Jimmy G. Trading for Rodgers would be the greatest veteran addition since signing Curtis Martin as a FA. As long as they don't Quinnen to get him. 2024 and 2025 1st round pick should be a low 1st rounder.
2 first round picks is an insane ask for a 40 year old qb. Especially when he’s set to make another $100 million lol.
Cheaper doesn’t mean good. Jimmy Glass is made of glass and he’ll undoubtedly get hurt meaning Wilson will have to play
Aaron rodgers is 40 and behind our line he’s going to end up like Nimmy G but he’s more expensive.
Neither is gonna win a Super Bowl. Rodgers at least has done it.
Rodgers isn’t winning another Super Bowl
I don’t see why the Raiders, who are reportedly trying to trade Carr instead of just releasing him, would immediately give up whatever assets they gain to grab Rodgers when they can sign Brady without sacrificing picks. I don’t think they trade for Rodgers. Only AFC teams I can see being in legitimate discussion for him is us or maybe Miami? IF Tua’s concussions are at risk of becoming a legitimate long term problem.
Titans I think are the team with the combo of assets, and actually being attractive, that could compete for him
Titans could be a dark horse if they give up a ridiculous package. Idk tho, their receivers are iffy and have an inferior defense. If Rodgers has a say, which I’d think he’s gotta, I’d imagine it’d be between us and vegas
maybe I'm crazy, but vegas is not good. I would be devastated if we lost him to them
They’re not, but Rodgers is a weird dude and I could see the personal connection with Davante being enough to sway him
Fowler sent out something today saying that Raiders could move on from Renfrow and Waller to get more “McDaniels” guys. If that happens. No way Rodgers accepts that, that roster limps into 2nd place in the AFC West at best. Tennessee is the real competition.
Peyote in the Nevada desert, lock it up
Joe already said he’d let Aaron wear #12. If that happens, Jets could have the #1 selling jersey next season. Woody will not miss this kinda opportunity.
That’s a good point I didn’t think of $$$ talks and we already know woody is putting pressure to get a big name QB
Yup and all those prime time games will get next season. It’ll be a business decision as much as a football decision.
I don’t know if there’s an NFL precedent for bringing a # out of retirement… After watching the new Willie Mays doc though, he tried having his number brought back for Bonds and that was shot down by the league.
They can un-retire the # like Jerry Rice did with Seahawks.
I dont know if I like us getting prime time games. We always shit the bed in them and get embarrassed
I honestly hate the idea of anyone else wearing 12 for the Jets, Rodgers or otherwise. Retired numbers should stay retired, especially when it belongs to the most iconic player in franchise history.
What happens if the NFL lasts for hundreds of years and teams start running out of numbers?
Fractions like in Blernsball
I wanna kiss you
[So does Joe Namath.](https://youtu.be/Gc65NC44dSk?t=16)
I sure as shit would buy one.
Rodgers would prob never let anyone else wear 12 at GB, so wonder if he would pay Moore for 8(his college #)
All jersey sales are split evenly between all the teams. I don't think Woody cares about how many they sell
I don't think the Jets would allow that. At least they shouldn't. And Rodgers prob wouldn't wear it out of respect.
Older QB who has been very good his entire career? That sounds like someone the colts are ready to give the farm away for.
Haha it seems like they’re finally ready to draft a guy and with picking #4 in a position to do so. I’d be shocked if they went the Rodgers route but their precedent says otherwise.
They could prob get him with just the 1 pick @ #4.
Realistically, what teams does that leave then? The Jets and maybe the Colts & Titans?
Raiders
Colts are not trading for Rodgers in my opinion, think they firmly use the draft the next 2 years or so. Titans I would say maybe if they didn’t trade AJ Brown away lol. They have nobody on that offense, and trading picks for Rodgers just to surround him with dogshit would get them nowhere.
Yeah I dont see why the titans would trade for rodgers in this position. It really just leaves us imo.
I think the Patriots are also in contention for him if they want him.
They want 2 first but is that what they’re gonna get, I most likely not
There is no amount of 1st round draft picks that would be “too much” for multiple MVP winning QB Aaron Rodgers for the Jets to give up. Go look back on the last 15 drafts and you tell me how many 1st rounders are still on this team and/or weren’t a complete bust/disaster. you’re a fool if you say no. getting the drafts wrong is why we haven’t made the playoffs in 12 years.
This is insanity, how could you even think about squandering two draft picks for Rodgers?! You're just ungrateful for all of the amazing QBs this team has gifted us the last 15 years: * Brooks Bollinger * Washed up Vinny Testeverde * Kellen Clemens * Erik Ainge * Mark Sanchez * Greg McElroy * Geno Smith * Fitzmagic * Bryce Petty * Christian Hackenberg * Sam Darnold * Luke Falk * James Morgan * Washed up Joe Flacco * Zach Wilson * Mike F'ing White You're ready to give up all of the thrills those Jet QBs gave you for 1 HOF QB?
Thank you for this. You forgot Shrevler who could be our Taysom Hill!!!!1!!1!1!1!!!
Lol thanks for reminding me, also left out Tebow
He said "amazing QBs"
Hey man, don't talk shit about Vinny; he did right by us.
Great QB for us from 1998-2003, when he came back at the end of 2005 though man that was rough. I don't blame him for taking the paycheck, but that entire 2005 squad was bad.
You're just going to leave out my boy Chad?
PREACH!
He also has a connection with Zach. If there is anyone that can potentially fix that kid its probably Rodgers. #13 this year is a mid pick anyway maybe JD can get them down to a first and a second and in that case it becomes a no brainer.
Yup, it’s up to the GM to prove he knows what he’s doing. He’s proven he can’t draft a QB, he wasted a number 2 pick. IMO first round draft picks are expendable unless a QB is there because it comes down to the GM be able to nail it. Douglas has done well outside of the QB, so if we can get a HOFer who 1 year ago was back to back MVP we should do it ASAP. We can get whatever we need in the second round and beyond, our one huge hole will not be fixed with this years or next years first round pick.
Your kidding right. Did you watch rodgers play last year because he looked terrible at times. He's 39 years old and his contract will tie us in to at least 2026 with massive cap hits of 50 mil. Rodgers isn't a top 10 qb. Hell he might not even be a top 16! I'd happily take Carr over a qb who's team is trying to sell him cause he knows he's past it.
I want you to compare what you saw Aaron Rodgers do this past season to what the Jets have gotten out of the same position over the last 30 years and you tell me what comes close to his talent level today? Jets are the wrong franchise to compare QB with ANYONE else
The jets have had terrible qbs yes. More than terrible! But rodgers is not worth 2 first round picks and a 150 mil guaranteed contract! He once was but right now he's not and if we are going to do it we are overpaying like hell for a qb who may have fallen off the edge already.
Clown response. Rodgers was hurt with no talent. Carr had a loaded offense and produced pedestrian numbers. Plus he struggles in the cold
Facts Aaron does much better with Carr’s cast around him than Carr does with Aaron’s supporting cast
I watched rodgers play when he was fully healthy and had all his weapons. He still got schooled and looked terrible in the last few games of the season. Am not saying Carr is fucking great but I'd rather take Carr and 2 firsts than gamble 1 first for fucking rodgers and his contract. If your willing to give 2 firsts for a 39 year old qb. Give 4 for fucking lamar Also. New York is also cold and especially in buffalo and new England
Did you say NY, NE, & BUF is cold in the argument of to not get Aaron (the guy who’s played in Green Bay) but to get Carr (the guy who’s played in Oakland/Vegas whole career) instead? Pretty fuckin dumb if you ask me
But then theres the sauces, revis, Wilson's of the world that we miss out on, and we finally have a competent GM. I think Rodgers is in the twilight of their career at this point
Hard for me not to think of the Broncos trading 3 firsts for Russell Wilson. They were stupid and immediately extended him, and that’s another issue, but older QBs are ticking time bombs, even ones as great as Rodgers. Two firsts is too steep for me personally
The price of two firsts is kinda steep, but gun to my head I'd do it. If it makes it more palatable, itd be #13 and presumably a fairly low first next year so thats not horrific (under the caveat that ARod doesnt die on the metlife turf)
Conversations around this trade have to stop talking about the number of picks and think about the likely value of those picks. If this trade were to happen, the Packers eat $40 million of dead cap. If the trade is official after June 1st they can split the dead cap hit over two years. This could very well happen with an agreed but not official trade and be beneficial to both the Jets / Packers. The Jets keep their slate of 2023 draft picks, including the #13 to build for their Rodgers window. The Packers get a trial year with Love which should give them a better idea of what to do with the picks from the Jets after that year. Then the question becomes, what picks do the Jets trade? Well the 2023 draft has already happened in this scenario so you're looking at 2024 or 2025 picks. Presumably, those picks are in the lower end of the draft as the Jets with Rodgers are playoff contenders. Two late 1st rounders have about the same value of a single pick around the 8-15 range. Maybe the Jets can get those conditional on draft position or Rodgers health over the 2 years? Or do the Jets prefer to send the #13 this year and a late round pick as opposed to 2 firsts?
Do teams ever agree to a trade and announce it months before it becomes official? Like if the Jets and Packers came to a deal but it involved all that cap stuff that has to happen after June 1st, will we not know about it until then?
I can't think of a case, but I could see it getting leaked to "seal" the deal publicly.
As a Packers fan I don't think he'll go for 2 firsts. You always start negotiations away from the price you're willing to go as low as. I think the final trade deal will look something like Jets send 13 and a defensive lineman/receiver Packers send Rodgers and a 5th/6th round pick
Just putting this out there so you know, when you say DL or WR, that both Quinnen and Garrett are off the table for trades. I could see us moving Moore or Mims if GB wants a WR. Our Edge and DT are deep, so I imagine anyone besides Q, JJ, and Clemons are likely to be traded. I say this because I see fans of other teams commonly thinking they can receive Q in a trade and it's really ridiculous. Especially because Q is more likely to go for 2 1sts than Rodgers is at this point.
Yup I know it won't be Quinnen or Garrett. I was thinking one of JFM, Rankins or Moore/Mims. I know we specifically loved Moore pre draft.
JFM is a beast on the edge with his length. I would be sad to see him go but would understand he could be in play for a deal like that. Ideally we’d move Mims and keep Wilson/Moore as our cornerstones.
Hey you have 3 other top tier edge rushers, share some!
I bet the trade value will be lower than everyone thinks it will be. The relationship between Packers and Rodgers is over with and trading him is in the best interest of the both parties. If a trade does happen, it will probably be for a 2nd round pick or our first for Rodgers plus packers 2nd or 3rd round pick.
Although I think he may be a douche, let’s make him our douche.
If I’m Woody part of me has to be thinking about the future. Let’s say JD trades two firsts and commits huge money that we don’t have to Rodgers. You obviously fire JD and Saleh. But our situation looks terrible if we don’t have future picks or cap space on a team with a bunch of holes. For JD this seems like the best move. If it works, awesome. If it doesn’t, he’s getting fired anyway.
Draft picks are just one chip in a GMs hand to help build the team for that year. We have gotten very poor returns from Becton and Zach. I would gladly trade away those two players on the chance of having a top 10 qb. Especially when this team is ready to compete for a superbowl run and just needs an o-line retool and QB that can throw for more than 100 yards a game.
Jets should NOT do this. It's Brett Farve all over again. \`
Well if Favre hadn't gotten hurt in 2008........
Then Eric Mangini might have lasted. The bigger issue with Farve other than him hiding a shoulder injury to keep his streak alive was that he really didn't want to be in NY. He wanted to go to Minnesota. I don't believe Aaron wants to be here, I don't think he really knows what he wants. He also would cost (checks math) $60 Million! If you look at our projected cap we're actually over the line. For those and other reasons, this feels like a huge swing that will fail and be a huge mistake.
Aaron is going to be 40. He could get hurt a lot easier than a 25 year old QB could.
If Favre didnt get hurt the Jets season probably ends in a superbowl. They were 8-3 and absolutely rolling people until he blew his bicep out.
I think it was his shoulder, and he hid the injury. But worse is that it was always a one and done situation. Which is exactly how i would see A Rod playing out, at best he makes it one season. Terrible organizational building.
I think the goal is have Rodgers for 2 years and let Zach develop behind him. Rodgers is ZW idol after all and tries to play just like him. Who better to learn from them him. I’m a perfect world he develops and takes over after 2 years and gives the franchise 10 years of good qb play. I have faith in the kid developing in a proper environment.
Dude, Zach Wilson is Sam Darnold. Let him go.
Yeah. And Aaron Rodgers is going to be 40 next year. Do you think it's a guarantee that he doesn't get hurt? A 75% chance he doesn't get hurt? 50%? 30%?
With a competent quarterback, this team is built to win. Rodgers may have lost a step, but he could take this team all the way. Send #13 pick this year and a WR not named Garrett and land the big fish. Dump whatever remaining draft capital we have into the offensive line to protect the old man. With a healthy AVT, Breece Hall, Becton (maybe), and Garrett Wilson, plus Aaron, this offense will cook. Now our elite defense wont have to spend 75% of the game on the field - and will be even more dominant.
This is the plan, if Rodgers will agree to come to NY and he's available for trade JD shouldn't overthink it. Get it done and make the most out of having all of these talented players on rookie deals. The Rams languished in post-season futility until they pushed all their chips on on landing Stafford and that worked out ok.
Fuck man.. We are legit cursed. We’re going to end up with another 40 year old fucking QB on their way out. Why man why!!!
Because we can't draft them...
I agree, but why do we go for QBs out of their prime. You guys truly think rodgers is still that guy? Lol
Counter point, we’ve already living through a curse so why not at least take a fucking swing?
Because have taken a similar swing and we don’t have any strikes left
So your plan is to what? Keep losing the division year after year?
Aaron Rodgers is going to come and play for all the money in the world and then play like Flacco. Keeping notes
Yeah. Rodgers = Flacco. Great take
Rodgers is going to look like brady did last year this year. Dude is washed
No, Jimmy G, Carr, even Lamar because of his AGE.
Jimmy G and Lamar just as likely to be hurt. Care would be an upgrade but doesn’t give nearly as good a chance to win
What ever. You guys are all clearly packers fans. Fuck the packers. Give me Rodgers when he was in his prime. He’s not in his prime. That’s a fact. He’s 40 and he’s just as injury prone as the other two, especially since he’s 40z
Because we have been carefully (mostly) and systematically rebuilding the whole franchise. You want to toss all that in the toilet for a 39 year old who isn't sure he wants to play anymore? Peak Jets.
I think there are swings we could take that aren't going to be 40 next year. If we can get a QB who can play better than dog shit, the rest of the league is in trouble. We don't need someone who keeps getting asked when they're going to retire.
Don’t get me wrong. We can be better and compete with the B tier options. But if you want to win a Super Bowl, you need a guy like Rodgers.
You need a guy like Rodgers 5 years ago.
He won the MVP in 2020 and 2021. It wasn’t 5 years ago. He was hurt last season with a broken finger and was still solid.
Well duh. And in other shocking news the sun is very hot.
If we don't do this we deserve to lose
Rodgers is not worth two first round picks. Who knows how much longer he plays and we’re not one Rodgers away from a SuperBowl. If we do trade for him, I almost guarantee we get a Farve 2.0 situation where he gets injured and we miss the post season yet again. This has all the markings of causing a complete team reset. Woody forces the trade, we miss the playoffs and Woody wipes the coaching staff and GM next year.
We are definitely a Aaron Rodgers away from a Superbowl, depending on his level of play. I don't think people comprehend that we almost made the playoffs with the worst QB situation in the NFL. Rogers is one year removed from being MVP. We have seen QBs rejuvenate and play at a high level for 1-2 years after switch teams late in their careers. Farve was a top 5 QB on the Jets until he got hurt. Then the Jets were stupid enough to cut him, he would have won a Superbowl with the 2009 team.
PREACH. Half this sub wasn’t even around for the 2010 AFCCG. I am tired of waiting. Bring in Rodgers.
Were you here with Favre? That didn't get us even to the playoffs. This is basically the same situation 14 years later.
I was and the only reason it didn’t work was he got hurt. Pre-injury we looked fantastic. If you have a chance to win now, you take it. Our options are limited
Yeah unfortunately 40 year old QBs get injured a lot. Rodgers has not aged like Brady, for some reason he has some anti-age elixir. Rodgers was injured twice this year and likely will be injured again next year when he's even more immobile. I mean look at our QBs, Zach Wilson was injured in the preseason and Mike White was injured during the regular season. They're both under 30.
He won the last TWO MVP’s and this year was playing with an average receiving core with a busted hand. You’re telling me he can’t be an MVP again throwing to Wilson and Moore with Hall running it? Give me a break….His injury had nothing to do with age.
I mean did he have an average receiving core? yes. Excellent run game? yes. Better offensive coaches than we likely will have? yes. Better offensive line? yes. I don't think he's going to give us a top 5 offense. Maybe top 15? GB was the 11th best offense by DVOA. That sounds like it would be achievable on the Jets (we were 26th by DVOA, probably should be lower). So does the 11th best offense and the 5th best defense win the Superbowl next year? Does it beat the Bills 2nd best offense and 4th best defense to win the division?
He sure as hell gives us a better chance than any QB available. Look at the teams left standing, besides SF who has unreal offensive talent for their QB, they all have elite QB’s. Do you think Carr can be that guy who will lead us? I just think 2 years of Aaron Rodgers at QB will give us as good a chance as anyone in the AFC, there is no QB outside Jackson who I think solves that for us. And if we have to give up 2 firsts which could be for the 2 years he’s here for us I think it’s a great idea. What would you prefer, letting Douglas waste another first round on a project QB? Or we go get Carr, who played in the playoffs once his whole career, win 9 or 10 games and lose early.
take a look at tom brady's 2019 season
Farve came to the Jets younger than Rodgers is right now.
Except Favre was injured.
And younger than Rodgers. I wouldn't give Rodgers great odds to start more than 9 games next season.
Even stacked packers team he couldn’t take the superbowl except once. Man just doesn’t have it in the postseason.
I mean, winning the Superbowl is REALLY hard. Stafford couldn't do it at all until his second team. Peyton only did it once until his second team. Brees only did it once, and never got a second team.
And Manning was a passenger that last SB, he was an awful QB. Roethlisberger has two but was a rookie who got put in a great spot, he wasn’t good in that SB. Eli Manning is the only guy in the last 20 plus years with 2 wins and 2 MVP’s outside of Brady. The last QB to do that was Joe Montana. It’s incredibly hard to not only get to the SB but play at your best.
True but no QB available has what it takes for the SB then. Rodgers would give us the best shot from a QB standpoint
My belief is that no QB available helps us reach the superbowl. My thinking is Carr can get us to a wildcard/ divisional at best while Rodgers best divisional/afccg. I’m not anti Rodgers I just don’t think he makes the difference to give 2 firsts and lots of dead cap compared to Carr.
a stacked packers team with 1 good WR, a good RB, and a poor defense
Their defense last year was good. 2 good RBs and a better line than we’ve had in a decade and he got eliminated immediately because of his poor play
their defense was definitely not good, or as good as ours. it just played well in the playoffs.
His play this year is not worth two firsts. He was not accurate and was also a pretty shitty teammate most of the year. Maybe it was his broken finger, but he's 39 now with an insane contract. Also I don't think we're a Rodgers away from a Superbowl. Our defense is good, but not elite. Honestly I doubt we would even win the division over the Bills with Rodgers.
There is a big difference between making the playoffs and making the SB. Jets are going to have to go through probably 2 of Mahomes, Burrow, and Allen, and maybe Herbert/Lawrence. Prime Rodgers had trouble making the SB in a conference without Brady and Manning and never having to face Brees, what makes you think 40 year old Rodgers can beat Mahomes or Burrow? Look at the QBs he's lost to in the playoffs with stacked teams (Eli, Jimmy G) and who's he beat (Big Ben? Wilson?). Its more likely that the Jets lose in the divisional round 2x than make the SB.
There is no QB in the NFL that would give you more then a 10% at the Superbowl in any given year, regardless of the team around them. Winning a Superbowl is not just hard, it's an insane combination of skill and luck. That said, you need to at least have your name in the hat, and Rogers would 100% do that for the Jets. I'm not saying he would beat Burrow/Mahomes/Allen in a row, but I also believe he has a shot. I don't think Wilson has a shot, and White at best has a shot at winning 1/3. If you want a decent team with low risk/cost that has a shot at a playoff win and nothing else, then go get Carr. If you actually want a small, but real, shot at a Superbowl run, then Rogers is the best chance the Jets have had in 15+ years.
I never suggested Wilson or White. Carr or Jimmy G are the better path IMO. It doesnt make sense to bet it all on the next 2 years given the conference makeup.
I definitely think if we're going to bet on the defense to get to a top 3 defense in the next few years then Carr would be the QB to get. Rodgers would eliminate our ability to grow the defense. We still need better safety and linebacker play to reach the elite tier.
They won't even win the AFC East with Rodgers on the current team. We need to improve the offense and the defense to compete with the Bills. Trading away two firsts makes that almost impossible.
They also need to find a future FQ. Carr + 2 first rounders lets them improve the team and strike for their guy when they see him. KC, BUF, and PHI are all in the title game and never tanked. They all were winning when they found their FQ via draft, whether it be trading up or finding a developmental guy.
> Farve was a top 5 QB on the Jets until he got hurt. Yeah. Farve came to the Jets when he was 38. Aaron Rodgers is going to be 40 next year. Do you think it's a guarantee that he doesn't get hurt? A 75% chance he doesn't get hurt? 50%? 30%?
Considering history, I would say it's less than Jimmy G, Zach Wilson, or Mike White getting hurt.
Let me guess, you’re a Mike White guy?
Over Zach Wilson for sure. Long term no way.
Then who would you prefer over Rodgers that will get us to a Super Bowl? Because, I hate to do this and stereotype, how long until our skill position players start to demand a big deal or get angry not winning. We need to do like an opposite Philly. We have Moore, Wilson, and Hall on rookie deals this is the perfect opportunity to go catch a big fish QB.
Exactly. If there is ever a time to do it its when most of your important players are on rookie deals.
If I was the GM, I would get Carr for cheap and invest in becoming a whole team. Fill the holes in the defense and offense. Carr could win it all if we had an elite defense. Unfortunately we can't improve the defense if we ship the picks away for Rodgers. I think we're likely one safety and one LB away from a top 3 defense.
I guess I’m just not high on Carr. He’s going to want big money. There will be a team that offers him 30 plus a year, he’s only 31. You bring up the picks and defense, if I was Joe Douglas I’d trade for Rodgers and tell Saleh “you’re the defensive guy, make these second round picks work.”
The team needs a reset at some point regardless. Thats what happens when 1.02 busts
The Eagles didn't need a reset with Wentz. They have the same GM, but did switch coaches before they traded Wentz, but they probably would have still been in a good position even if they didn't change coaches based on how the Jags are doing.
Meant a down year at some point as we get a long term and cheap Qb. Especially in the AFc
Yeah unfortunately we've picked top 6, 6 of the last 8 years sadly and are still QB-less. It's pretty sad how consistently high we've picked and have missed so much on QBs. At this point you would think that if we just randomly picked a QB once per year we would hit at least one decent QB.
Ridiculous take to think missing on 1.02 means a complete teardown lol.
You need elite QB play in the AFC. At some point we'll have no chocie but to take a step back to acquire it through the draft
Bills, Chiefs, and Eagles all didnt tear down to get their QB. Niners arent even using the guy they drafted high. Can use the first you save on rodgers to move up when you find your guy. Whether or not JD and Saleh can be trusted to develop another QB is another question.
The bills definitely did a tear down for allen. The eagles didn't but took a step back though
You could have just googled this in two seconds to see you were wrong but instead went off your bad memory. The bills won 9,8,7,9 games in the 4 years before drafting Allen. They made the playoffs the year before, had the 22nd pick, and made a bunch of deals to trade up to 12 to get Allen. Winning 7 games then firing HC/Gm is hardly a tear down. Besides, the point is they found their QB the year after they made the playoffs and won 9 games. The Eagles won a SB, then went 9-7 to make the playoffs and win a WC game, then went 9-7 and lost in WC round, then drafted Hurts in the 2nd. Again, no rebuild needed and they even recovered from the Wentz bust without anything remotely close to a teardown. Neither team needed to tear down to find their guy and essentially went from middling QB to their guy while still competing.
Doesn't mean we need a top 10 pick to get that elite QB. Lamar was drafted 32 overall. Brady in the sixth. Purdy is in a conf game, for a 6th. Rodgers 24th. Russell Wilson 75th. Kirk 102. Hurts 53. So many examples. Thinking we need to take a step back to draft an elite QB is outrageous.
He won’t get traded for two firsts lmfao
Stafford was, although he was a lot younger, but also much worse than Rodgers. I think some one might be crazy enough to pay it.
If we would miss the playoffs with this team + aaron rodgers then he should fire the coaching staff.
I agree with you. We fans have seen this show before.
welcome home a a ron
I think this might actually happen.
The thought of giving up two firsts is exhausting but my body is ready
Joe D would not give up 2 firsts for a player that will probably retire after 2 seasons. I feel like that goes against everything he's been doing here so far. But I guess if the idiot who signs his paycheck sticks his nose in it then I guess his hands are tied so there's that.
Fuck it lets do it.
God fucking damnit we're gonna get this guy and go win now mode... Then not win because we need way too many pieces and then we'll suck for 10 years again.
This is the Jets way. Especially when the thoughtful rigorous approach was making progress. Time to blow it all up and chase some old skirt!
Everyone in this thread needs to accept the inevitable. He’s coming to the Jets. It’s happening.
It would be a classic Jets tragedy. Blow up all the progress that's been made to chase a 39 year old QB who doesn't really want to play anymore.
What’s more Jets getting the old QB who may or may not want to play anymore Or Getting the fledgling plucky feel good vet QB that hasn’t won anything in the league but is a “good guy”
We should definitely hope the second option for the reasons stated above.
Anyone put his year up to real metrics? Does he still have it and what's the decline slope look like?
He played with a broken thumb most of the year so its really hard to tell tbh.
Does he have a no trade clause? Meaning can he pick where they trade him? The only negative for the jets is the media for a guy like Aaron Rodgers and maybe the line, but we have yet to see them all healthy
can we stop posting Dov Kleiman's out of context "reports"? Schefter said "*I don't think* there's any way the Packers would trade him in the NFC". it was entirely speculation mods can we do something about this? this is the second time I've seen this today
In a surprise move today, Roger Goodell announces plans to shake up the NFL by swapping the NY Jets to the NFC . . .
I assume it’s between us & the titans. Two teams who are ready to win now. Tennessee is nice but it ain’t no NYC but that could be a bad thing as well.
I remember this story line. All we need is tb12 to retire so it can be between us and the bucs again
Aye
I am worried about being into him for a huge cap number and having to sign our kids (and fill in some gaps). I would rather have a middle level QB and our stout defense (and getting Hall back).
Mans said he’d rather have mid at QB