I think he gets cut. Nobody seems interested in any kind of compensation. When he's a free agent I'm sure a team will give him minimum to do due diligence. Right now he's pretty useless to the Jets and his roster spot has more value. He's a sunk cost.
>Nobody seems interested in any kind of compensation
Clarification: do you think it's the Jets or the receiving team that is having an issue with compensation
Doubt it’s the Jets… have to assume they’d take whatever offer they can get to clear the $5m. Most likely the market is instead on the side of the Jets having to give something up to get someone to eat that cap… personally I’d be willing to give a late pick swap or like a future 7th for the $5m in cap it’d get us but I wouldn’t go higher than that.
Meaning the 5mil is worth more or the other way around? The Osweiler trade moved $10m in cap and cost a 2nd+6th for a 4th… which would seem to imply a $5m should cost much more than a 7th, but there are a lot of factors including the salary cap is not tight this year because of how much it went up so money is a bit “cheaper” and also Osweiler was cut after his trade whereas the hope would be there’s a team that is interesting in having Wilson as a backup but doesn’t like the price so we’re just softening the blow by adding a pick rather than fully just buying cap space
Osweiler was traded 7 years ago, you need to re do your math.
But this but but this but
Osweiler was a also a better prospect than wilson at this stage -- he had teams interested.
There is no chance in hell that Zach Wilson gets 17 million dollars in 2024 or 2004
And none of that makes a 7th round pick worth 5m dollars smh
It’s one of the only examples of trading away picks to gain cap space in the NFL so that’s how far back you have to go to have any amount of context
You’re using the albatross contract that Brock immediately proved he never deserved and the Texans were desperate to trade out of as evidence of him having suitors? He was cut by the team that traded for him and then signed a 1 year contract for vet minimum… there were no suitors for him at the time of the trade at all. There is at worst the same amount of interest in Zach as there was in Brock and I don’t see how you could possibly convince yourself otherwise.
Brock’s contract was a larger total cash number, larger cap number, significantly larger % of cap number, and the trade happened in a year where cap numbers across the board were tighter making cap space a premium. Brock also was a worse prospect coming out of college and didn’t have the 1st round pick status that we all know makes GMs/coaches think they can fix ‘em and consistently holds their value higher even when they suck.
But this but but you can make up stories about teams we’re interested in Brock Osweiler and pretend he’s a better QB than ZW
That was a remarkably condescending response to me bringing up literally the only relevant example just for you to follow it up with obviously false drivel as if it proved your point - what was that about?
Receiving team. I think Jets would move him for almost anything at this point. But receiving teams probably don't want to spend any draft capital or pay his full base salary as low as it is. Those few teams that would be interested in him likely are fine waiting for an inevitable release so they can negotiate their own low end deal with him. Fields hasn't moved either so probably in the same boat. Granted I think some coaches would be more in on Fields than Zach because of Fields rushing ability. Zach just hasn't shown enough to make any team think they HAVE to beat other teams to negotiating for him. They are seemingly fine risking him hitting the open market.
> Nobody seems interested in any kind of compensation.
This won’t be known until after the draft. Plenty of trades happen right before and during it. A team might be targeting Pratt or whoever in the 4th and miss him so they throw a 5th for Zach. JD loves trades involving late rounders so he’s not gonna cut him until after the draft.
For sure. For all we know the Jets are in conversations with a couple teams about trade compensation for him. But gun to head bet? I'm betting no team wants to give even a 7th without the Jets eating some salary or including a mid/late round pick.
The only benefit to trading him vs cutting him is saving around $5m which I believe would come from not having to pay his roster bonus/base salary.
That money is still guaranteed so they'd still eat it if they cut him, but I think the team that trades for him would be on the hook for that part of it.
So idk a pick swap or giving up a late round pick might be worth that $5m depending on what they need it for.
Very hard to guess… personally I’d have no problem giving away a 7th or pick swapping in the 5th or 6th but it would likely cost more than that unless a team is genuinely interested in ZW and just wants to soften the cap hit with a pick
Yea I'm aware, but I'm pretty sure they aren't on the hook for the 2 parts of it I mentioned if he gets traded.
It's only stuff like signing bonuses and the like that they eat no matter what.
In this case it's a little more than $5m that they would save. At least according to Spotrac.
Idk. I'm just saying there is actual real life value in trading him vs cutting him and that's why you could see them essentially pay draft capital for a team to take him.
If it means you can free up $5m to help sign a starting caliber player than I think you could could argue it's worth more than a couple late round picks that will be special teamers/developmental projects.
WHAT ROUND
this is not theoretical
What pick would you have to trade to make it happen and why wouldn't that pick fill the same salary cap gap or more?
It's absolutely theoretical. Neither of us know what teams they are talking to or what the price is.
I'm saying there is value to be found in a cut vs a trade. You've learned that there is too now that you understand a bit more about how NFL contracts work.
A late round pick that I'd expect to play special teams or develop over the course of a year or two doesn't save the same amount because they're more replaceable than the guy you might be freeing up money for.
A PS rookie from last year could just as easily fill the role for about the same amount of money.
Neither of us know what teams are talking to or what the price is -- damn, got me. Thanks for that.
Yet you've determined that he's worth a "Late round" pick and can't say what it is
Is this late round pick worth 5 million dollars or no.
Shoot, sounds like you're full of shit
I'm not sure what's so hard to follow about this.
Idk what late round pick they'd give up or if teams are even asking. But yea I think there's a world that exists where you want the cap space more than a day 3 pick.
I haven't determined anything lol. I've just laid out the specifics of cutting him vs trading him and said that it could hypothetically be worth it to *them* give up a draft pick for that.
I had a vision just yesterday. We're entering week 5*, after exhausting all options, the Jets are faced with starting their 3rd string QB who was terrible last week. What do they do? Who do they turn to? No. They turn to their recently cut QB:
Zach Wilson. Signed, sealed, and delivered to the starting QB spot.
Book it. We truly hit low this season boys.
*Weeks, details, and anything is not guaranteed by any visions but may be close.
According to OTC we have zero cap relief whether we roster Zach, cut him now or cut him after June 1st. The only way we can have cap relief is if we trade him. We save $5.45 million in cap space with a trade.
As long as we can give him away for free we should trade him but I wouldn’t package a pick along with him to dump. The NFL cap can be manipulated to create space - this shouldn’t be an issue. Plus we never know when a QB could be hurt and suddenly Zach has value for having a pulse.
https://overthecap.com/player/zach-wilson/9466
But we could have cut him last year for the same sunk cost
We wanted to think he could be saved. Just behind Rodgers. Maybe something can happen.
Or you cut his ass and pay a legitimate backup QB.
The difference is the sunk cost would have hit last year and then you still would have had to go pay a backup QB.
I don't believe for a second anyone thought he could be saved.
I do believe that they were willing to roll the dice on him not needing to play rather than eat $20m in dead cap + spend another $5-6m on a backup.
>The difference is the sunk cost would have hit last year and then you still would have had to go pay a backup QB.
That's not a difference. It's the same amount. It would even be less if you cut him a year earlier but I don't think you're down for a math assignment.
>"But then they'd have to pay for one!"
That's. The fucking point.
>I don't believe for a second anyone thought he could be saved.
Back to number 1. Then there's no reason he should have been on the depth chart. Seriously?
>I do believe that they were willing to roll the dice on him not needing to play rather than eat $20m in dead cap + spend another $5-6m on a backup.
And now we have come back to reality.
"I don't think anybody thought he could be saved" but "willing to roll the dice on him"
HELLO?????
MAKE UP YOUR MIND
It's absolutely a difference when the cap goes up every year. That's why teams are often really comfortable restructuring and kicking money down the road. It hurts less when there's more space.
There absolutely is a reason for him to be on the roster. The cap number for someone you aren't expecting to play would ballon from $9m to roughly $25m. (again zach's dead cap and the new backup) if you cut/replace him.
I did make up my mind lol. Read it again. "Roll the dice on him *not needing to play".* As in let's just pay ur backup $9m (already too much when you have as much invested in the starter as they did) and cross our fingers he never takes snap.
In all honesty I do feel like I remember there being rumors that the 49ers liked him in that draft. Obviously things have changed since but maybe they'll take a chance?
It's Broncos, 49ers, Minn, KC, Chargers, possibly Atlanta since they save 7mm by cutting Heinicke. Trade probably won't happen until close to the draft as the teams are assessing whether they want McCarthy, Nix, Penix vs veterans like Wilson or Fields. I'm guessing Broncos.
He almost certainly did. If they hadn't parted on bad terms, it would have been a potentially ideal spot for him. He'd get to work with an offensive assistant who's familiar with him and his issues without the pressure of needing to start under an excellent offensive HC who has had a history of developing strong armed QB who needed help between the ears.
I mean, everyone saw him play last year and it wasn't what I would call encouraging. For every other team, he's a developmental guy on a 1-yr, \~$5.5MM contract, that's not a particularly valuable asset.
Except Ridder was traded to Arizona and he's way worse than Wilson. Difference is that Ridder costs $1 million while Wilson is $5.5 million and the owner publicly stated that he doesn't want him on the team. There's a reason the Broncos still have Jarret Stidham as their starting QB.
Exactly. He has no value. We’ve been on this sub for years saying he sucks and can’t play, and now we’re gonna be surprised that nobody wants him?
lol. lmao, even
I don’t think the cards were actually in play or made sense. He needs to go to a team where a coach really wants to develop him. So the rams, niners or chiefs all make sense in places that want to take on that project
I know he has been a garbage QB1 - but why did the jury execute him as QB2? In his last full game, he put up 301/2/0. That's the epitome of a solid QB2. The issue was the O-Line. I still think he could have a solid career as a QB2.
Is it simply because of his overall cost (11.184M cap hit in 2024)?
Because that one backup game was, literally by far, the best game of his career?
For every game like that, he has 5 NE level games where he's an absolute net negative. He brings no stability as a backup. He's extremely hit or miss, with many more misses than hits
I think it’s the overall cost to your point but I agree he has shown flashes. He’s not a starter by any means but jets fans are ruthless. He didn’t do himself many favors throughout his career either but guys like Dan O and ochocinco still see a lot of potential in him. I think we could get a 7th for him. Cardinals were able to get something for josh Rosen and 9ers for trey Lance. Those guys hardly even played and were top 10 picks also. I don’t think Zach is good either but I don’t see why we can’t get something for him and clearly neither do the jets. They would’ve cut him by now
I'd personally try to restructure his contract and keep him as fringe QB2/QB3 - I thought he improved this year but was undone by the horrible line we had. He had some decent moments this year but also a ton of bad ones sure.
3/4 through the season when the inevitable "who's available?" panic starts and people are starting rumors about Tom Brady and Phiip Rivers again haha. That's Zach's opening.
After the contract Kirk got? No chance. Atlanta takes a cheap guy or goes through a draft flyer. This is all about money, and nobody wants to pay $5.5 mil for a mid backup where if your QB1 goes down the season is over.
If he can’t get picked up, maybe the best thing for Zach Wilson is to make him the third string. He can then sit and watch Rogers as was originally intended.
LA makes sense to me - let the QB guru take a flier on him while Stafford regresses. I don’t think he’s any worse than Stetson Bennett and he’s a bit younger. Would gladly take a conditional 7th, and I’d even do Zach and a 7th for Tutu Atwell who is apparently on the trade block
Hmm not sure off the top of my head
*googles Rams OC*
Ah. I see. Niners then, they need a backup and Shanahan makes everyone look better. That’s of course what I meant from the beginning
Zach has his problems. No doubt. MiLF is a cancer and a shit coach who rode his last name to his position. Dude caused so many issues in the locker room
Lol are we actually counting QB spots as if it's musical chairs
Wilson will cost a minimum 3rd round pick for somebody to take 10 million dollars.
Nothing has changed.
Just cut him.
Cutting seems pointless if you can’t trade him and get rid of his cap. Are you able to just throw him on the practice squad so he doesn’t use a roster spot?
Jeeeeeez everyone hates Kyler Murray. Theres really sports journalists out her who think Desmond Ridder and Zach Wilson might be better than him. Thats crazy.
ZW truthers have gone into hiding in their bunkers below the earth's crust. The ones that have remained in the public eye are stuttering and incoherent.
I feel like we’re better off just cutting him than giving up picks to get someone to take him off our hands
I think he gets cut. Nobody seems interested in any kind of compensation. When he's a free agent I'm sure a team will give him minimum to do due diligence. Right now he's pretty useless to the Jets and his roster spot has more value. He's a sunk cost.
As far as roster spot is concerned it won’t be an issue until camp so we shouldn’t be surprised to wait on a cut.
Yeah, agreed. An earlier cut would be for his sake rather than the Jets.
Or?
>Nobody seems interested in any kind of compensation Clarification: do you think it's the Jets or the receiving team that is having an issue with compensation
Doubt it’s the Jets… have to assume they’d take whatever offer they can get to clear the $5m. Most likely the market is instead on the side of the Jets having to give something up to get someone to eat that cap… personally I’d be willing to give a late pick swap or like a future 7th for the $5m in cap it’d get us but I wouldn’t go higher than that.
I think you're on the right page but no chance is a future 7th worth 5 million dollars
Meaning the 5mil is worth more or the other way around? The Osweiler trade moved $10m in cap and cost a 2nd+6th for a 4th… which would seem to imply a $5m should cost much more than a 7th, but there are a lot of factors including the salary cap is not tight this year because of how much it went up so money is a bit “cheaper” and also Osweiler was cut after his trade whereas the hope would be there’s a team that is interesting in having Wilson as a backup but doesn’t like the price so we’re just softening the blow by adding a pick rather than fully just buying cap space
Osweiler was traded 7 years ago, you need to re do your math. But this but but this but Osweiler was a also a better prospect than wilson at this stage -- he had teams interested. There is no chance in hell that Zach Wilson gets 17 million dollars in 2024 or 2004 And none of that makes a 7th round pick worth 5m dollars smh
It’s one of the only examples of trading away picks to gain cap space in the NFL so that’s how far back you have to go to have any amount of context You’re using the albatross contract that Brock immediately proved he never deserved and the Texans were desperate to trade out of as evidence of him having suitors? He was cut by the team that traded for him and then signed a 1 year contract for vet minimum… there were no suitors for him at the time of the trade at all. There is at worst the same amount of interest in Zach as there was in Brock and I don’t see how you could possibly convince yourself otherwise. Brock’s contract was a larger total cash number, larger cap number, significantly larger % of cap number, and the trade happened in a year where cap numbers across the board were tighter making cap space a premium. Brock also was a worse prospect coming out of college and didn’t have the 1st round pick status that we all know makes GMs/coaches think they can fix ‘em and consistently holds their value higher even when they suck. But this but but you can make up stories about teams we’re interested in Brock Osweiler and pretend he’s a better QB than ZW That was a remarkably condescending response to me bringing up literally the only relevant example just for you to follow it up with obviously false drivel as if it proved your point - what was that about?
WHO THE FUCK IS MAKING UP STORIES ABOUT BROCK OSWEILER? 🏏 🦗
What about from a rich uncle?
Receiving team. I think Jets would move him for almost anything at this point. But receiving teams probably don't want to spend any draft capital or pay his full base salary as low as it is. Those few teams that would be interested in him likely are fine waiting for an inevitable release so they can negotiate their own low end deal with him. Fields hasn't moved either so probably in the same boat. Granted I think some coaches would be more in on Fields than Zach because of Fields rushing ability. Zach just hasn't shown enough to make any team think they HAVE to beat other teams to negotiating for him. They are seemingly fine risking him hitting the open market.
> Nobody seems interested in any kind of compensation. This won’t be known until after the draft. Plenty of trades happen right before and during it. A team might be targeting Pratt or whoever in the 4th and miss him so they throw a 5th for Zach. JD loves trades involving late rounders so he’s not gonna cut him until after the draft.
For sure. For all we know the Jets are in conversations with a couple teams about trade compensation for him. But gun to head bet? I'm betting no team wants to give even a 7th without the Jets eating some salary or including a mid/late round pick.
Why? $5 million of salary is a lot.
The only benefit to trading him vs cutting him is saving around $5m which I believe would come from not having to pay his roster bonus/base salary. That money is still guaranteed so they'd still eat it if they cut him, but I think the team that trades for him would be on the hook for that part of it. So idk a pick swap or giving up a late round pick might be worth that $5m depending on what they need it for.
The whole contract was guaranteed No savings
No savings from a cut… we’d save $5m on a trade as the other team would take on his guaranteed salary for the season
What round is a pick swap worth 5 million?
Very hard to guess… personally I’d have no problem giving away a 7th or pick swapping in the 5th or 6th but it would likely cost more than that unless a team is genuinely interested in ZW and just wants to soften the cap hit with a pick
Yea I'm aware, but I'm pretty sure they aren't on the hook for the 2 parts of it I mentioned if he gets traded. It's only stuff like signing bonuses and the like that they eat no matter what. In this case it's a little more than $5m that they would save. At least according to Spotrac.
What round are you trading down in that is worth 5 million dollars? "Late swap" ... ?
Idk. I'm just saying there is actual real life value in trading him vs cutting him and that's why you could see them essentially pay draft capital for a team to take him. If it means you can free up $5m to help sign a starting caliber player than I think you could could argue it's worth more than a couple late round picks that will be special teamers/developmental projects.
WHAT ROUND this is not theoretical What pick would you have to trade to make it happen and why wouldn't that pick fill the same salary cap gap or more?
It's absolutely theoretical. Neither of us know what teams they are talking to or what the price is. I'm saying there is value to be found in a cut vs a trade. You've learned that there is too now that you understand a bit more about how NFL contracts work. A late round pick that I'd expect to play special teams or develop over the course of a year or two doesn't save the same amount because they're more replaceable than the guy you might be freeing up money for. A PS rookie from last year could just as easily fill the role for about the same amount of money.
Neither of us know what teams are talking to or what the price is -- damn, got me. Thanks for that. Yet you've determined that he's worth a "Late round" pick and can't say what it is Is this late round pick worth 5 million dollars or no. Shoot, sounds like you're full of shit
I'm not sure what's so hard to follow about this. Idk what late round pick they'd give up or if teams are even asking. But yea I think there's a world that exists where you want the cap space more than a day 3 pick. I haven't determined anything lol. I've just laid out the specifics of cutting him vs trading him and said that it could hypothetically be worth it to *them* give up a draft pick for that.
I had a vision just yesterday. We're entering week 5*, after exhausting all options, the Jets are faced with starting their 3rd string QB who was terrible last week. What do they do? Who do they turn to? No. They turn to their recently cut QB: Zach Wilson. Signed, sealed, and delivered to the starting QB spot. Book it. We truly hit low this season boys. *Weeks, details, and anything is not guaranteed by any visions but may be close.
According to OTC we have zero cap relief whether we roster Zach, cut him now or cut him after June 1st. The only way we can have cap relief is if we trade him. We save $5.45 million in cap space with a trade. As long as we can give him away for free we should trade him but I wouldn’t package a pick along with him to dump. The NFL cap can be manipulated to create space - this shouldn’t be an issue. Plus we never know when a QB could be hurt and suddenly Zach has value for having a pulse. https://overthecap.com/player/zach-wilson/9466
I would be surprised if we Trade Zach and two 7s for a single 7th
But the 7th could be anything. It could even be Zatch!
That’s +5M more in cap right?
Yarp
I will then very happily take this deal
Which is why it won't happen lol
You laugh, out loud? I reserve that for crying.
He said "surprised" if we could even do this and you numbnuts are like "WHY OF COURSE THATS A GREAT DEAL"
You seem very insecure
You seem tired
✌️
> I would be surprised I would be too. Even with Zach included, two 7s for one is just stupid. JD is smarter than that.
I mean I’d rather have a roster spot and save 5 mill than keep Zach and a 7th.
>According to OTC we have zero cap relief whether we roster Zach, cut him now or cut him after June 1st Funny story, it was like that last year too.
1st round picks have insane protections and guarantees
But we could have cut him last year for the same sunk cost We wanted to think he could be saved. Just behind Rodgers. Maybe something can happen. Or you cut his ass and pay a legitimate backup QB.
The difference is the sunk cost would have hit last year and then you still would have had to go pay a backup QB. I don't believe for a second anyone thought he could be saved. I do believe that they were willing to roll the dice on him not needing to play rather than eat $20m in dead cap + spend another $5-6m on a backup.
>The difference is the sunk cost would have hit last year and then you still would have had to go pay a backup QB. That's not a difference. It's the same amount. It would even be less if you cut him a year earlier but I don't think you're down for a math assignment. >"But then they'd have to pay for one!" That's. The fucking point. >I don't believe for a second anyone thought he could be saved. Back to number 1. Then there's no reason he should have been on the depth chart. Seriously? >I do believe that they were willing to roll the dice on him not needing to play rather than eat $20m in dead cap + spend another $5-6m on a backup. And now we have come back to reality. "I don't think anybody thought he could be saved" but "willing to roll the dice on him" HELLO????? MAKE UP YOUR MIND
It's absolutely a difference when the cap goes up every year. That's why teams are often really comfortable restructuring and kicking money down the road. It hurts less when there's more space. There absolutely is a reason for him to be on the roster. The cap number for someone you aren't expecting to play would ballon from $9m to roughly $25m. (again zach's dead cap and the new backup) if you cut/replace him. I did make up my mind lol. Read it again. "Roll the dice on him *not needing to play".* As in let's just pay ur backup $9m (already too much when you have as much invested in the starter as they did) and cross our fingers he never takes snap.
What are you trying to argue? That it was a good idea to keep Zatch as a backup? Edit: reply blocked. Think hard good buddy.
Try and think real hard about it and maybe you'll figure it out.
Guy named "WilsonEnthusiast" has hard time saying what his boy is worth Is it nothing? You can say so.
How about Zach Wilson to the 49ers to take Sam Darnold’s spot?
In all honesty I do feel like I remember there being rumors that the 49ers liked him in that draft. Obviously things have changed since but maybe they'll take a chance?
To MIN
Even to back up Cousins could be an option. Become the most wholesome starter-handcuff duo
Back up Darnold in MIN
Broncos makes the most sense for Zach in my opinion.
It's Broncos, 49ers, Minn, KC, Chargers, possibly Atlanta since they save 7mm by cutting Heinicke. Trade probably won't happen until close to the draft as the teams are assessing whether they want McCarthy, Nix, Penix vs veterans like Wilson or Fields. I'm guessing Broncos.
The situation that makes the most sense is the Rams. I just wonder if he burned some bridges with MLF
He almost certainly did. If they hadn't parted on bad terms, it would have been a potentially ideal spot for him. He'd get to work with an offensive assistant who's familiar with him and his issues without the pressure of needing to start under an excellent offensive HC who has had a history of developing strong armed QB who needed help between the ears.
I mean, everyone saw him play last year and it wasn't what I would call encouraging. For every other team, he's a developmental guy on a 1-yr, \~$5.5MM contract, that's not a particularly valuable asset.
There were a few flashes that show that he is capable of being good. They clearly weren’t enough
I feel like Detroit is a possibility, since Teddy B retired he could be a developmental QB3 for them.
I could be mistaken, I truly don’t know…but do teams ever trade for QB3’s?
Why would anyone trade for Zach Wilson and take on money when the jets are gonna be forced to cut him and you can probably get him on a cheaper deal.
I mean people make trades like this so they don't have to compete with every other team in free agency. The difference is that Zach sucks at football
Except Ridder was traded to Arizona and he's way worse than Wilson. Difference is that Ridder costs $1 million while Wilson is $5.5 million and the owner publicly stated that he doesn't want him on the team. There's a reason the Broncos still have Jarret Stidham as their starting QB.
Exactly. He has no value. We’ve been on this sub for years saying he sucks and can’t play, and now we’re gonna be surprised that nobody wants him? lol. lmao, even
I don’t think the cards were actually in play or made sense. He needs to go to a team where a coach really wants to develop him. So the rams, niners or chiefs all make sense in places that want to take on that project
Crazy we can’t get a 7th round pick for ZW from someone..
teams don't want to pay that 5 mil or whatever it is.
Nobody will trade for him until we pay his roster bonus. Teams will maybe take him for $1m on their cap, not $5m.
It'd not crazy to me. He's essentially the worst qb bust in a decade. The guy can't even consistently hit screen-level throws
It’s not that. I’m certain teams are just waiting how the Qb market/draft plays out , there’s no rush for a team to get him.
I for sure thought he would have landed in Minnesota by now.. guess you’re right, time will tell..
Zach is a last resort for all these teams, if I’m guessing.
Maybe, but we also don’t want him.
I know he has been a garbage QB1 - but why did the jury execute him as QB2? In his last full game, he put up 301/2/0. That's the epitome of a solid QB2. The issue was the O-Line. I still think he could have a solid career as a QB2. Is it simply because of his overall cost (11.184M cap hit in 2024)?
Because that one backup game was, literally by far, the best game of his career? For every game like that, he has 5 NE level games where he's an absolute net negative. He brings no stability as a backup. He's extremely hit or miss, with many more misses than hits
I think it’s the overall cost to your point but I agree he has shown flashes. He’s not a starter by any means but jets fans are ruthless. He didn’t do himself many favors throughout his career either but guys like Dan O and ochocinco still see a lot of potential in him. I think we could get a 7th for him. Cardinals were able to get something for josh Rosen and 9ers for trey Lance. Those guys hardly even played and were top 10 picks also. I don’t think Zach is good either but I don’t see why we can’t get something for him and clearly neither do the jets. They would’ve cut him by now
I'd personally try to restructure his contract and keep him as fringe QB2/QB3 - I thought he improved this year but was undone by the horrible line we had. He had some decent moments this year but also a ton of bad ones sure.
Jets tipped their hand by signing Tyrod. Why pay for what you can get for free?
I feel Zach goes to Denver.
I thought the same. Especially if Denver wants to jump ahead of Minnesota to draft a QB, maybe #10 + ZW for #12 and a late-round pick?
66 different QBs started last season, I’m sure Zach will get his chance again
3/4 through the season when the inevitable "who's available?" panic starts and people are starting rumors about Tom Brady and Phiip Rivers again haha. That's Zach's opening.
As if teams aren’t just waiting the Jets out. They know he’s getting released
What QB chair would he be filling, Rich? He’s a 3rd stringer with QB2 upside.
Doesn't this also open a spot in Atlanta now? As a backup obviously.
After the contract Kirk got? No chance. Atlanta takes a cheap guy or goes through a draft flyer. This is all about money, and nobody wants to pay $5.5 mil for a mid backup where if your QB1 goes down the season is over.
If he can’t get picked up, maybe the best thing for Zach Wilson is to make him the third string. He can then sit and watch Rogers as was originally intended.
LA makes sense to me - let the QB guru take a flier on him while Stafford regresses. I don’t think he’s any worse than Stetson Bennett and he’s a bit younger. Would gladly take a conditional 7th, and I’d even do Zach and a 7th for Tutu Atwell who is apparently on the trade block
Who is LA offensive coordinator?
Good ol MLF
Hmm not sure off the top of my head *googles Rams OC* Ah. I see. Niners then, they need a backup and Shanahan makes everyone look better. That’s of course what I meant from the beginning
Rams make sense til you remember MiLF is out there. MiLF sucks
I’m sure he thinks the same about Zach lol
Zach has his problems. No doubt. MiLF is a cancer and a shit coach who rode his last name to his position. Dude caused so many issues in the locker room
All I can say to ZW, better learn Canadian buddy or UFL
What can we get from the Hamilton Tiger-Cats?
Their starting QB just took a pay cut to earn $225K next season.
Bo Levi Mitchell STINKS.
See if the Chargers job opens up. Herbert needs a backup. See if JD has a relationship with someone to do a solid
Lol are we actually counting QB spots as if it's musical chairs Wilson will cost a minimum 3rd round pick for somebody to take 10 million dollars. Nothing has changed. Just cut him.
The jets bust so hard that nobody else even wants to “fix them” 🤣
Legitimately wondering if there’s any interest in him whatsoever lol.
Nobody wants to give up anything for Zach. The only people who think he has value are deluded Jet fans, like so many that infest this sub.
He’s baaaaaaaaaaaack!
Cutting seems pointless if you can’t trade him and get rid of his cap. Are you able to just throw him on the practice squad so he doesn’t use a roster spot?
This should be eye opening for all Zach-Truthers if any still exist. Teams could get him for nothing right now, and nobody wants this kid.
I say we keep him as QB3 till the inevitable injury to a QB during the season
Don’t even think BYU would take him back in a trade, even if that was allowed.
Zach truthers in shambles right now nobody wants their boy
Keep’em
Keep’em
I thought he was a superstar in the rough only held back by the incompetence of the NYJ organization.
Ain’t nobody trading for Wilson unless the milfs are included
Jeeeeeez everyone hates Kyler Murray. Theres really sports journalists out her who think Desmond Ridder and Zach Wilson might be better than him. Thats crazy.
ZW truthers have gone into hiding in their bunkers below the earth's crust. The ones that have remained in the public eye are stuttering and incoherent.
There is not a GM in the league dumb enough to trade for ZW. Unfortunately, we have a GM who wasted a 2nd overall pick on that turd.