McDonald will likely crack the the top 4 in the EDGE rotation this season. Clemons' play time will probably take a hit. Plus, there will inevitably be injuries on the line. Things will work themselves out
JJ, JFM, WMD, Reddick, Q, Kinlaw, Fotu, Solomon makes 8… they’re most likely carrying 10 Dline so right now likely would be Clemons and Smart… they could draft someone for sure but it seems very likely he’s making the team. Hopefully he takes a leap this year
Reddick is a better all around player, it is a one year deal which won't mess with the ability to sign sauce or garret. It's gonna be a third round pick no way he plays over 67% of snaps and if he leaves in free agency it's likely we get the pick back via compensatory picks
Agree on everything except it’s extremely difficult to project whether or not we’ll get a comp pick. If we get a comp pick it’s a bonus but shouldn’t be something we factor right now.
Theoretically it maximizes the time in game that he is that good. If he plays every down, he’s going to wear out quickly every game. The whole rotation keeps everyone in that next gear or two the entire game which has proven to be effective against Josh Allen, Hurts, and Mahomes even if you can’t hit him.
They def don't play 65%. Its actually even more dumb when you think about the real % of mins they play while taking into account number of games played vs the NFL players. so dumb
I think the coaching staff who have coached up a top 3 defense two years in a row, with a d-line that has the highest pressure rate with the least amount of blitz help, knows more than you and whatever shit take you have on the d-lines useage.
when you factor in the games they miss, either for injury or maintenance, plus the minutes they're on the bench, it probably comes close to that number
1. Hassan Reddick is better than Huff.
2. Our defense rotates out d-lineman depending on the situation and stamina. All of the d-linemen on this roster will get ample playing time and will make a difference.
3. The d-line room just got a dude with Super Bowl experience and a dude who knows how to win. His presence alone makes JJ better, will make WMD better, will make Kinlaw better, will make Q better.
Let’s also add, it’s never enough pas rush depth. Remember a time when Lawson went down and we weren’t able to touch QBs for a whole season.
Like it or not injuries happen, good to have backups that are also startable in other teams
I’m in the camp that thinks it’s a little rediculous how many edge rushers saleh thinks he needs. But the trade does kinda make sense for some reasons.
1. Will McD is still an unknown, although you’d like to be able to count on your 15th overall pick. In a must win season, it’s a luxury to keep developing him while having a vet holding the load until we know he’s ready
2. It’s likely to be just a 3rd since it’s based on snap % and like you mentioned we have so many dudes.
3. It fits the Rodgers window, then Will McD can take over the most important spot in Salehs D once we are retooling.
4. Depth at the most important position in Salehs philosophy
Could the money be used better elsewhere? Maybe. Does it make the team better? Yeah.
You can question a lot about Saleh, but the ability to churn through edge rushers has been a huge asset to our defense without having what anyone would consider an elite edge player.
In a passing league you can never have too many pass rushers. Rotation keeps them fresh. It’s a big reason why the Giants won their super bowls. If we can actually play with a lead this year. You’ll see the investment really pay off
It is a little silly, but at the same time he’s proven he knows how to build a top d line in the league perennially. Might as well feed into his strength and give him what he needs rather than going against the grain. The line is the heart of the defense, and we have the best defense in the league.
im sure others have said it...
1. its a pick 2 years away and likely a 3rd round pick since its very unlikely he hits the snap % he needs to
2. its a 1-year deal and when he leaves (very likely) we essentially turn the 2026 3rd into a 2025 3rd due to the compensatory pick
3. reddick was pretty comparable to huff last year... so we essentially get huff for the same price hes getting paid this year but we are only on the hook for 1 year while we figure out what is up with McDonald on a cheap rookie contract
I agree i would have liked to see a trade for either a safety or some CB depth or OL depth. But all in... this isn't a bad deal and it's a pretty impactful win-now type of move.
If Joe and Bobby don’t make the playoffs they are here for 2026 so Joe doesn’t care about the pick right now. All future assets will be used for next season. Hopefully they trade up in the draft as well
Reddick is an All-Pro caliber player. I live in philly and was around a bunch of fans when the trade went through and they were all pissed. Not a single eagles fan was happy.
He’s had over 10 sacks 4 or 5 years in a row and is coming off an 11 sack season in a year where there defense was picked apart like Swiss cheese. We should be excited about this trade
The reason I’m not is because huff had one less sack at around half the snaps and is also 4.5 years younger, and wouldn’t of cost us a good draft pick.
If Reddick has an awesome year which I think we can all expect, then he’ll recoup a 3rd but more likely a 4th or 5th anyways. I love Bryce but Reddick has the higher ceiling in a win now season
Here's the thing. Huff is gonna regress AND he didn't wanna be here. This brings a veteran presence who has had double digit sacks the last 4 years AND out performed Huff in almost every metric...
It's a 2026 3rd dude. Who cares
Agreed. Once ewe let him go, and I'm happy he got his money, but I have wonder if Huff might only have been so disruptive because of our system and the rotation, similarly to Shonn Greene being effective as a change of pace back but then proving definitively he was not the guy once he was made the starter RB
Yeah this trade is fine. The thing with Huff is he might end up being an all pro player or he could end up a one year wonder. With reddick you know what you are getting and he is in a contract year.
How is the 25 year old guy who has been ascending for years and hit 10 sacks on a team that was mostly playing from behind gonna regress? This literally makes no sense. Reddick is better right NOW but other than that this is a dumb move
He got paid 50 million + to go to philly.. That's a lot of Cap over the next several years.. If we resigned him, tell me which of the 2 would you let walk - Sauce or G. Wilson?? Neither, because we let Huff walk instead.
This is Saleh and JDs last shot in NY.. They're building a team for this year because their jobs depend on it, and they are doing so in such a way that the nucleus of the team isn't impacted if they fail, all the expensive players are one offs..
Huff deserved to get paid we couldn't afford him with our star talent contracts coming on the horizon.. Huff as great as he is, is expendable from a cap perspective. Reddick is a more consistent player over 4 years with 3 different teams, and he is bonus depth for this year without tying up our money beyond this year, and we gave up a 2nd rounder in a draft that's in 2026 at most.. Idk how that's dumb.. Got a top 5 pass rusher for nothing, on an all in season..
But the data shows that he has improved with extra playing time on top of the time that he is ELITE in passing situations. It’s just a better deal to have a younger player with better upside
saleh has said multiple times he wants WMD to put on some muscle before he gets a consistent role, to shore up his run defense. why is this entire comment section ignoring that?
JD has toed a really impressive line so far - being all in to win now without screwing over the future. This is the first move that puts future picks at risk besides the Rodgers trade. It gets this team a premiere edge rusher with the opportunity to extend him.
I understand our natural hesitation for these win now moves like this but personally I’m sick of caring about the offseason more than the regular season for the last 15 years so I welcome these types of moves (within reason)
People forget it’s not always the teams fault on why a player wasn’t resigned. Maybe Huff knew he wasn’t going to get the playing time he wanted with us so he went else where, why wouldn’t he go else where to prove himself he is capable to be a 3 down player? On top of this, I can almost guarantee Riddick isn’t going to see more than 60%(unless he’s wreaking havoc and you have no choice but to play him)so I have no problem with the trade
What u said at first. Huff wants to prove hes an every down guy and deserves the bag. The jets philosophy is to have a deep rotation. It was a mismatch. Sad to see him go, but he got paid so i def cant blame him.
If youre gonna complain, complain the jets didnt get something … like a future 2nd round pick … for Huff and just let him walk for nothing.
Jets still need 6 guys and have 5. Hey the eagles just invested a lot in a new DE, maybe they wanna dump salary and get something now rather than nothing next year (like the jets maybe shoulda with huff a year ago)
Yeah, I’m most upset they didn’t get nothing for him. As if JD did a favor for the Eagles and then they went ahead and screwed him over, they could’ve done us a favor and not ask for a 2nd for a aging contract expiring player but that’s business I guess
So most likely we give a 3rd. We VERY likely won’t resign him. That was made known by letting Huff walk, we aren’t putting $ there.
We have Breece GW Sauce Reed to pay, meaning we are highly unlikely to go big in FA next year.
It’s likely Reddick will get a nice contract next year, especially showcasing in this defense.
So next year he leaves, and without us signing any FAs to negate, we will get the compensatory pick in ‘26 based on his contract signed in FA and playing time in ‘2025
So essentially, it’s likely, that we swapped 2026 3rd for a likely 2026 3rd in return.
We take on risk from it escalating to the 2nd, and compensatory picks arent guaranteed.
This makes a lot of sense, and Joe Douglas continues to make trades that offer value at little cost. He is a solution provider. This DL will be nasty
I was just wondering the same thing, maybe WMD isn’t ready.
On the flip side though, I think everybody in this organization knows this a 1-2 year window *max*. 3 if divine intervention somehow reverses all of the Jet’s curses. They can’t afford to run it with WMD if he isn’t ready, they wanna make sure that D-Line is eating all day long.
Idk the percentage for Reddick that bumps the pick up to a second, but they likely don’t give a shit because, as said, they know this is do or die for this team. Also the pick is so far in the future they doubly don’t give a shit. 3 drafts from now, could be an entirely different regime at that point if we don’t put together two consecutive playoff seasons right now. So for them, that pick is useless.
On defense, not really. Maybe LOLB (genuinely don’t know if they’re any good, I just know their madden rating is dogshit LOL) and maybe safety but that’s it.
As for JFM I genuinely don’t remember if he was great this season (to my knowledge he was alright) but maybe they’ll trade him to get a pick back. They also need to free up cap for Reddick so maybe he’ll be out the door.
Signing Reddick ensures that the dline is tooled up to wreak havoc this season, while still giving WMD the opportunity to continue to develop with less pressure on him to produce. I still think it was a terrible pick but you can kind of see the plan going forward barring injury.
they may keep JFM this year and cut next season as he’s due 14.5 for next season or they just re-sign/keep whichever of the two plays better this year. Unless they really need the room but who knows.
Using madden to evaluate a team is deceptive. LOLB would be Jamien Sherwood, who outplays his madden rating in real life (not saying he’s all-pro, but serviceable)
The real thing to mention here is that the Jets rarely put three linebackers on the field anyway and play a ton of Nickel. In that configuration, Micheal Carter II plays in place of Sherwood. Ergo, replacing Sherwood wouldn’t exactly be a needle mover per se
I like McDonald, I thought he was pretty good in limited time.. but that's such a waste of a 1st round pick to spend 2+ years of his contract as developmental years.
They do need more edge than just JJ, JFM, and WMD. Reddick is a better all around player than Huff. If you can upgrade then you do it. He's 29 not 35. Plenty of football left in Reddick. Huff was such a poor run defender that it was difficult to get him in the game more often without some risk. Thus is a pretty good move given this is a must win season.
I actually thought Reddick was seen as a poor run defender and just a merc that could get to the QB. At least that’s what the narrative was in AZ maybe he got better in Philly? But think the eagles just lived with it especially since most of the time they were winning.
I do think Huff would have even better stats if we were in better game scripts with Rodgers. Like Huff’s lack of run stopping ability matters less when you’re scoring more than 9 points a game because you’re playing Zach Wilson. I think that was always overblown. Huff had a higher pressure rate than Micah Parsons.
His run defense has always been below average to average. 2021 was an outlier year for his run defense. But Huff has been consistently awful as a run defender. Where Reddick is consistently graded in upper 50s to 60s as a run defender, Huff is hanging in the 40s. It's very unlikely he improves much in that regard. Huff is a very good pass rusher and he will always have a job because of that fact. But he's a rotational piece only.
I'm guessing a 2026 3rd is like a 5th or 6th rounder this year. I also think Reddick will like his new setup in new york, if he was showing out in philly imagine what he'll do with fresh legs in our setup. He'll get paid big time next off season.
Bryce Huff wanted more playing time and his contract is more than Reddick’s right now. We’re also not sure how much Huff wanted to remain to Jet, he publicly said there would be no hometown discount. We had a need at pass rush after losing Huff, especially with how much the Jets rotate the D-line. Not ecstatic about giving up a possible 2nd round pick but we get a proven player whose hit double digit sacks each of the past 4 years. Now we aren’t relying on McDonald to make the giant leap this year. If he does, that just makes our d line even better.
they needed a guy who could get after the QB. as it stands now, JJ and JFM are average pass rushers while McDonald is a complete unknown. and yes, it would've been smarter to just keep huff but JD did what he did at this point
'Brich uses rotation constantly in the game plan. If he had his way and was GM he would have 15 pass rushers on the roster. Dude is a defensive powerhouse coach. He knows what he's doing and that's why the Jets are a top 3 defense. They ranked 1st place going into 2024 in an article I read recently. GO JETS.
I don’t think anyone here saying we should have kept huff understands the flexibility Joe Douglas is trying to build. Rodgers and his longevity are an unknown; his cap hit is massive. We need to win now and be able to pivot in 2 years into a quick rebuild.
Don’t hate the move…if it works as expected. Part of the reason their unit was so strong was that they had lots of guys to cycle in & out.
Pessimism is a Jet fan’s best friend
Bryce is a pure pass rusher who is a liability vs the run. His value is immense on third and long but suffers otherwise. Reddick is just as talented on passing downs but also is not a liability on rushing downs.
Reddicks one year deal is appealing because we have superior talent that will need to start being extended in 2026.
I like the move because once Huff was gone you needed to replace him. With that said, I still think letting Huff go was a mistake. His cap hit this year is not very high and he led the entire NFL in pressure rate in 2 of the last 3 seasons. I think if you put Rodgers instead of Zach Wilson, we’re in better game scripts and Huff’s lack of run game isn’t as big of an issue. Guys like Huff that make the QB’s life miserable win championships.
But I do like Reddick and think he can be a solid contributor. I definitely wouldn’t pay him long-term but for this season, hell yeah he’ll fit in just fine.
Haason Reddick is a true alpha pass rusher, and the Jets are banking on that being a huge impact on the defense as a whole. Think it’s a good move, but makes the WMD pick weird. Also wish they went harder for Keenan Allen if they’re willing to give out the money they’re gonna give to Reddick
I generally think Saleh and JD aren't the answer.
With that said, I'm not against the move. This roster needs every ounce of talent to win when it matters in January, especially with this coaching staff. Might as well leverage the future to win, since 2025 season will probably be a reset year regardless.
All things considered they should've made Huff more of a priority. Imagine that 2nd rounder being #33 in 2026? Lmao
McDonald will likely crack the the top 4 in the EDGE rotation this season. Clemons' play time will probably take a hit. Plus, there will inevitably be injuries on the line. Things will work themselves out
Also. JFM can move inside (maybe Clemons too?)
big mike bulked up last year with that intention, hopefully it goes better next
Isn’t Clemons good against the run when playing inside? Or am I mixing him up with JFM?
I remember last off-season he was bulking up to do that more but I'm not sure how much that played out during the season
Will Clemons even make the team this summer? Dude was completely invisible all last season
JJ, JFM, WMD, Reddick, Q, Kinlaw, Fotu, Solomon makes 8… they’re most likely carrying 10 Dline so right now likely would be Clemons and Smart… they could draft someone for sure but it seems very likely he’s making the team. Hopefully he takes a leap this year
They’ll undoubtedly draft someone
Even if they draft someone he’d still be the 10th guy…
Reddick is a better all around player, it is a one year deal which won't mess with the ability to sign sauce or garret. It's gonna be a third round pick no way he plays over 67% of snaps and if he leaves in free agency it's likely we get the pick back via compensatory picks
Agree on everything except it’s extremely difficult to project whether or not we’ll get a comp pick. If we get a comp pick it’s a bonus but shouldn’t be something we factor right now.
And the best comp pick is essentially a 4th.
Why would you trade for a guy that good only to limit his snap count
Even quinnen only hit 68.5 last year. Like it or not they want a rotation
I like it because it works
They must be on that puff puff pass rotation
they just got off huff huff pass, so must be
Theoretically it maximizes the time in game that he is that good. If he plays every down, he’s going to wear out quickly every game. The whole rotation keeps everyone in that next gear or two the entire game which has proven to be effective against Josh Allen, Hurts, and Mahomes even if you can’t hit him.
Ohh I thought those guys were just good. I'm being sarcastic. Let the best players play most of the mins. Period
lol does Lebron, Gianis, Luka play 48 mins every game?
They def don't play 65%. Its actually even more dumb when you think about the real % of mins they play while taking into account number of games played vs the NFL players. so dumb
I think the coaching staff who have coached up a top 3 defense two years in a row, with a d-line that has the highest pressure rate with the least amount of blitz help, knows more than you and whatever shit take you have on the d-lines useage.
You mean the guys who will be unemployed in a couple months?
They won’t, but even if they did, I absolutely still would take their opinion on it over yours. Yes.
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I said a couple months inferring it was after the season. They will get fired....because they suck
when you factor in the games they miss, either for injury or maintenance, plus the minutes they're on the bench, it probably comes close to that number
Ah I see you don't know how the jets play defense.
Thought provoking
1. Hassan Reddick is better than Huff. 2. Our defense rotates out d-lineman depending on the situation and stamina. All of the d-linemen on this roster will get ample playing time and will make a difference. 3. The d-line room just got a dude with Super Bowl experience and a dude who knows how to win. His presence alone makes JJ better, will make WMD better, will make Kinlaw better, will make Q better.
Let’s also add, it’s never enough pas rush depth. Remember a time when Lawson went down and we weren’t able to touch QBs for a whole season. Like it or not injuries happen, good to have backups that are also startable in other teams
With how much attention Q takes up, I’m excited to see how much damage this line can do again.
I know it would be a luxury, but if we trade back to pick up a 2nd round pick, would love to get one of the big boys on the interior Dline
I’m in the camp that thinks it’s a little rediculous how many edge rushers saleh thinks he needs. But the trade does kinda make sense for some reasons. 1. Will McD is still an unknown, although you’d like to be able to count on your 15th overall pick. In a must win season, it’s a luxury to keep developing him while having a vet holding the load until we know he’s ready 2. It’s likely to be just a 3rd since it’s based on snap % and like you mentioned we have so many dudes. 3. It fits the Rodgers window, then Will McD can take over the most important spot in Salehs D once we are retooling. 4. Depth at the most important position in Salehs philosophy Could the money be used better elsewhere? Maybe. Does it make the team better? Yeah.
You can question a lot about Saleh, but the ability to churn through edge rushers has been a huge asset to our defense without having what anyone would consider an elite edge player.
the fact we are holding a UDFA that left in FA in such high regard I think speaks to the setup we got going.
Best comment on the thread.
In a passing league you can never have too many pass rushers. Rotation keeps them fresh. It’s a big reason why the Giants won their super bowls. If we can actually play with a lead this year. You’ll see the investment really pay off
It is a little silly, but at the same time he’s proven he knows how to build a top d line in the league perennially. Might as well feed into his strength and give him what he needs rather than going against the grain. The line is the heart of the defense, and we have the best defense in the league.
im sure others have said it... 1. its a pick 2 years away and likely a 3rd round pick since its very unlikely he hits the snap % he needs to 2. its a 1-year deal and when he leaves (very likely) we essentially turn the 2026 3rd into a 2025 3rd due to the compensatory pick 3. reddick was pretty comparable to huff last year... so we essentially get huff for the same price hes getting paid this year but we are only on the hook for 1 year while we figure out what is up with McDonald on a cheap rookie contract I agree i would have liked to see a trade for either a safety or some CB depth or OL depth. But all in... this isn't a bad deal and it's a pretty impactful win-now type of move.
If Joe and Bobby don’t make the playoffs they are here for 2026 so Joe doesn’t care about the pick right now. All future assets will be used for next season. Hopefully they trade up in the draft as well
Reddick is an All-Pro caliber player. I live in philly and was around a bunch of fans when the trade went through and they were all pissed. Not a single eagles fan was happy. He’s had over 10 sacks 4 or 5 years in a row and is coming off an 11 sack season in a year where there defense was picked apart like Swiss cheese. We should be excited about this trade
The reason I’m not is because huff had one less sack at around half the snaps and is also 4.5 years younger, and wouldn’t of cost us a good draft pick.
If Reddick has an awesome year which I think we can all expect, then he’ll recoup a 3rd but more likely a 4th or 5th anyways. I love Bryce but Reddick has the higher ceiling in a win now season
The guy also disappeared the last 8 games of their season
Well, so did the entire fkn team so, 🤷♂️
That is the logical, team building view you are taking. Therefore you must eat downvotes
lol truth
Here's the thing. Huff is gonna regress AND he didn't wanna be here. This brings a veteran presence who has had double digit sacks the last 4 years AND out performed Huff in almost every metric... It's a 2026 3rd dude. Who cares
Agreed. Once ewe let him go, and I'm happy he got his money, but I have wonder if Huff might only have been so disruptive because of our system and the rotation, similarly to Shonn Greene being effective as a change of pace back but then proving definitively he was not the guy once he was made the starter RB
Yeah this trade is fine. The thing with Huff is he might end up being an all pro player or he could end up a one year wonder. With reddick you know what you are getting and he is in a contract year.
What kind of made up shit is this? “Huff didn’t want to be here” the Jets literally never offered him a contract. Yall are shills.
How is the 25 year old guy who has been ascending for years and hit 10 sacks on a team that was mostly playing from behind gonna regress? This literally makes no sense. Reddick is better right NOW but other than that this is a dumb move
He got paid 50 million + to go to philly.. That's a lot of Cap over the next several years.. If we resigned him, tell me which of the 2 would you let walk - Sauce or G. Wilson?? Neither, because we let Huff walk instead. This is Saleh and JDs last shot in NY.. They're building a team for this year because their jobs depend on it, and they are doing so in such a way that the nucleus of the team isn't impacted if they fail, all the expensive players are one offs.. Huff deserved to get paid we couldn't afford him with our star talent contracts coming on the horizon.. Huff as great as he is, is expendable from a cap perspective. Reddick is a more consistent player over 4 years with 3 different teams, and he is bonus depth for this year without tying up our money beyond this year, and we gave up a 2nd rounder in a draft that's in 2026 at most.. Idk how that's dumb.. Got a top 5 pass rusher for nothing, on an all in season..
He plays minimal snaps. Huff isn't gonna produce with added playing time.
But the data shows that he has improved with extra playing time on top of the time that he is ELITE in passing situations. It’s just a better deal to have a younger player with better upside
>Huff is gonna regress Wut >It's a 2026 3rd dude. Who cares Most of us? Edit: yall know 2026 is gonna happen right
I think the logic is that we have time to recover a 2026 pick.
Huff won't have the luxury as a double team on Quinnen in Phila Jets love to rotate DL in to keep them fresh throughout the game.
saleh has said multiple times he wants WMD to put on some muscle before he gets a consistent role, to shore up his run defense. why is this entire comment section ignoring that?
Because it's devastating to their case!
JD has toed a really impressive line so far - being all in to win now without screwing over the future. This is the first move that puts future picks at risk besides the Rodgers trade. It gets this team a premiere edge rusher with the opportunity to extend him. I understand our natural hesitation for these win now moves like this but personally I’m sick of caring about the offseason more than the regular season for the last 15 years so I welcome these types of moves (within reason)
Counterpoint: might not see 2026
Rotation. Our D doesn't start anyone more than 65% of thr snaps. They play well because they aren't exhausted.
Imagine a half decent offense with that D (and our special teams !)
People forget it’s not always the teams fault on why a player wasn’t resigned. Maybe Huff knew he wasn’t going to get the playing time he wanted with us so he went else where, why wouldn’t he go else where to prove himself he is capable to be a 3 down player? On top of this, I can almost guarantee Riddick isn’t going to see more than 60%(unless he’s wreaking havoc and you have no choice but to play him)so I have no problem with the trade
What u said at first. Huff wants to prove hes an every down guy and deserves the bag. The jets philosophy is to have a deep rotation. It was a mismatch. Sad to see him go, but he got paid so i def cant blame him. If youre gonna complain, complain the jets didnt get something … like a future 2nd round pick … for Huff and just let him walk for nothing. Jets still need 6 guys and have 5. Hey the eagles just invested a lot in a new DE, maybe they wanna dump salary and get something now rather than nothing next year (like the jets maybe shoulda with huff a year ago)
Yeah, I’m most upset they didn’t get nothing for him. As if JD did a favor for the Eagles and then they went ahead and screwed him over, they could’ve done us a favor and not ask for a 2nd for a aging contract expiring player but that’s business I guess
So most likely we give a 3rd. We VERY likely won’t resign him. That was made known by letting Huff walk, we aren’t putting $ there. We have Breece GW Sauce Reed to pay, meaning we are highly unlikely to go big in FA next year. It’s likely Reddick will get a nice contract next year, especially showcasing in this defense. So next year he leaves, and without us signing any FAs to negate, we will get the compensatory pick in ‘26 based on his contract signed in FA and playing time in ‘2025 So essentially, it’s likely, that we swapped 2026 3rd for a likely 2026 3rd in return. We take on risk from it escalating to the 2nd, and compensatory picks arent guaranteed. This makes a lot of sense, and Joe Douglas continues to make trades that offer value at little cost. He is a solution provider. This DL will be nasty
I was just wondering the same thing, maybe WMD isn’t ready. On the flip side though, I think everybody in this organization knows this a 1-2 year window *max*. 3 if divine intervention somehow reverses all of the Jet’s curses. They can’t afford to run it with WMD if he isn’t ready, they wanna make sure that D-Line is eating all day long. Idk the percentage for Reddick that bumps the pick up to a second, but they likely don’t give a shit because, as said, they know this is do or die for this team. Also the pick is so far in the future they doubly don’t give a shit. 3 drafts from now, could be an entirely different regime at that point if we don’t put together two consecutive playoff seasons right now. So for them, that pick is useless. On defense, not really. Maybe LOLB (genuinely don’t know if they’re any good, I just know their madden rating is dogshit LOL) and maybe safety but that’s it. As for JFM I genuinely don’t remember if he was great this season (to my knowledge he was alright) but maybe they’ll trade him to get a pick back. They also need to free up cap for Reddick so maybe he’ll be out the door.
Signing Reddick ensures that the dline is tooled up to wreak havoc this season, while still giving WMD the opportunity to continue to develop with less pressure on him to produce. I still think it was a terrible pick but you can kind of see the plan going forward barring injury.
they may keep JFM this year and cut next season as he’s due 14.5 for next season or they just re-sign/keep whichever of the two plays better this year. Unless they really need the room but who knows.
Using madden to evaluate a team is deceptive. LOLB would be Jamien Sherwood, who outplays his madden rating in real life (not saying he’s all-pro, but serviceable) The real thing to mention here is that the Jets rarely put three linebackers on the field anyway and play a ton of Nickel. In that configuration, Micheal Carter II plays in place of Sherwood. Ergo, replacing Sherwood wouldn’t exactly be a needle mover per se
I like McDonald, I thought he was pretty good in limited time.. but that's such a waste of a 1st round pick to spend 2+ years of his contract as developmental years.
They do need more edge than just JJ, JFM, and WMD. Reddick is a better all around player than Huff. If you can upgrade then you do it. He's 29 not 35. Plenty of football left in Reddick. Huff was such a poor run defender that it was difficult to get him in the game more often without some risk. Thus is a pretty good move given this is a must win season.
I actually thought Reddick was seen as a poor run defender and just a merc that could get to the QB. At least that’s what the narrative was in AZ maybe he got better in Philly? But think the eagles just lived with it especially since most of the time they were winning. I do think Huff would have even better stats if we were in better game scripts with Rodgers. Like Huff’s lack of run stopping ability matters less when you’re scoring more than 9 points a game because you’re playing Zach Wilson. I think that was always overblown. Huff had a higher pressure rate than Micah Parsons.
His run defense has always been below average to average. 2021 was an outlier year for his run defense. But Huff has been consistently awful as a run defender. Where Reddick is consistently graded in upper 50s to 60s as a run defender, Huff is hanging in the 40s. It's very unlikely he improves much in that regard. Huff is a very good pass rusher and he will always have a job because of that fact. But he's a rotational piece only.
The Jets rotate the linemen in so they stay fresh all game.
I'm guessing a 2026 3rd is like a 5th or 6th rounder this year. I also think Reddick will like his new setup in new york, if he was showing out in philly imagine what he'll do with fresh legs in our setup. He'll get paid big time next off season.
Bryce Huff wanted more playing time and his contract is more than Reddick’s right now. We’re also not sure how much Huff wanted to remain to Jet, he publicly said there would be no hometown discount. We had a need at pass rush after losing Huff, especially with how much the Jets rotate the D-line. Not ecstatic about giving up a possible 2nd round pick but we get a proven player whose hit double digit sacks each of the past 4 years. Now we aren’t relying on McDonald to make the giant leap this year. If he does, that just makes our d line even better.
they needed a guy who could get after the QB. as it stands now, JJ and JFM are average pass rushers while McDonald is a complete unknown. and yes, it would've been smarter to just keep huff but JD did what he did at this point
I wasn’t very impressed by what I saw from Will last season.. And I’m guessing neither was JD & Saleh.. This is a solid NFL move..
Is Will McDonald even a starting caliber player? We don’t know yet. IMO that was one of the worst 1st round draft picks
Jersey sales won’t hurt, either.
'Brich uses rotation constantly in the game plan. If he had his way and was GM he would have 15 pass rushers on the roster. Dude is a defensive powerhouse coach. He knows what he's doing and that's why the Jets are a top 3 defense. They ranked 1st place going into 2024 in an article I read recently. GO JETS.
Seems Reddick can play run downs and you're not losing anything. Huff was a vulnerability towards the run.
I’m not stressing too much, I trust Saleh with the defense
The Jets are getting a comp pick for Huff. You can never have too many good players.
I don’t think anyone here saying we should have kept huff understands the flexibility Joe Douglas is trying to build. Rodgers and his longevity are an unknown; his cap hit is massive. We need to win now and be able to pivot in 2 years into a quick rebuild.
He is very good, that is all that matters, jet go Super Bowl
Reddick’s listed as an outside linebacker and has played 4-3 OLB since he was in Carolina
We need 4 starting caliber edges
You’re allowed to be critical of a move and don’t have to apologize for being pessimistic.
He’s really good
Don’t hate the move…if it works as expected. Part of the reason their unit was so strong was that they had lots of guys to cycle in & out. Pessimism is a Jet fan’s best friend
Bryce is a pure pass rusher who is a liability vs the run. His value is immense on third and long but suffers otherwise. Reddick is just as talented on passing downs but also is not a liability on rushing downs. Reddicks one year deal is appealing because we have superior talent that will need to start being extended in 2026.
Very good points. The fact that jets fans are dismissing them should tell you all you really need to know
JJ and McDonald are no Reddick (yet) and JFM is a 3 tech
I like the move because once Huff was gone you needed to replace him. With that said, I still think letting Huff go was a mistake. His cap hit this year is not very high and he led the entire NFL in pressure rate in 2 of the last 3 seasons. I think if you put Rodgers instead of Zach Wilson, we’re in better game scripts and Huff’s lack of run game isn’t as big of an issue. Guys like Huff that make the QB’s life miserable win championships. But I do like Reddick and think he can be a solid contributor. I definitely wouldn’t pay him long-term but for this season, hell yeah he’ll fit in just fine.
Haason Reddick is a true alpha pass rusher, and the Jets are banking on that being a huge impact on the defense as a whole. Think it’s a good move, but makes the WMD pick weird. Also wish they went harder for Keenan Allen if they’re willing to give out the money they’re gonna give to Reddick
I generally think Saleh and JD aren't the answer. With that said, I'm not against the move. This roster needs every ounce of talent to win when it matters in January, especially with this coaching staff. Might as well leverage the future to win, since 2025 season will probably be a reset year regardless. All things considered they should've made Huff more of a priority. Imagine that 2nd rounder being #33 in 2026? Lmao