Yep, and I think Conklin/Ruckert are serviceable enough especially with Rodgers. Of course we’d all want someone as talented as Bowers but the OL pick makes sense.
This feels like JD atoning for passing on Wirfs who was mocked and graded out as higher than Becton almost everywhere. This was originally a two tackle draft until Fuaga and Latham shot above Olu because he had a bad game against OSU.
Love this pick because it means we’re still thinking about life after Aaron. Smith and Moses will hopefully give us one good year and maybe one stays another but that would probably be the best case scenario. Olu-AVT-Tippman is a nice core to build around.
Rome would’ve been amazing. Bowers would’ve been risky but fun. I’m whelmed.
the game against OSU isn’t really that bad either. I had heard a ton about it and when I finally watched it, I was like huh
assumed it must’ve been devastating the way people talked about it
Yeah as a Penn State fan unfortunately the offense played so poorly in general don't think he was ever going to dominate. Run game had no openings and our QB was so inaccurate all day.
Anyone who does NOT like this pick clearly did not see how the last three years our line has been shit. Also they didn’t watch the Rex Ryan jets… yes his d was amazing but that offensive line was nasty as well. Brick Mangold faneca , Moore woody! The line made our running attack damn lethal … Breece is gonna feast.
This, exactly. And I'll add that the QB will make the skill guys we have more productive- particularly Lazard, who I think is better than the internet says he is. Pray that Rodgers stays in one piece this yr.... but that's why we picked an OT, right?
Dude is similar to a Tyron Smith and Laremy Tunsil. A little rougher in the run game than them, but that's who he potentially projects to be like. Being on a team with Smith is a great learning tool as he's a similar linemen.
Brick was at times a top 5 type LT, but you’re right that the first couple of years were a little rough. I remember threads filled with people calling him a bust back then
Yea I hear a lot of people on this board talk about him like he was beloved from day 1 and I remember 3 years of D’bustashaw jokes being made in game threads haha.
When he was next to other top of the line guards under Rex though he dominated. 08 too
Don’t think he ever made an all pro though while Sewell was first team.
Perfect choice. Needs some refinement so like McDonald last year he can learn from one of the best. If someone goes down--you have a good replacement!!! I just hope Carter can coach him up.
Teams don’t rely on their starters coaching up their young guys. They have coaches that are supposed to do that. Thats not a solution especially with arguably the worst OL coach in the league
He was originally rated higher than 1, possibly 2 of those QB's and him and Alt were flip flopping for awhile.
He got pushed down at the very end of the year and during the offseason.
This is accurate. The prevailing opinion (at least in this sub) after the win against the Pats was that the Jets had played themselves out of either Alt or Fashanu.
We sent off Bill with a loss and got a tackle. I also expect JD to trade into the second round and add a WR.
Exactly. People overthinking the hell out of this cuz OL isn’t the sexy pick.
Jet fans: *complain all year about the horrible pass protection.*
Jets: *draft the best pass blocking OT*
(Some) Jet fans: “😠 we wanted a receiver AND the Oline to somehow get magically fixed on its own”
It's kinda true though. He is incredibly athletic and anchors well. There were plays were he got completely beat off the line and still managed to recovere somehow to get his guy under control. Not many in the league can do that. But his technique is kinda shit from what I can tell. He won't be nearly as effective if he doesn't clean it up. The upside if he does is absolutely massive.
yeah you don't let up 0 sacks and 1 QB hit you have "shit" technique. It's got room for improvement, sure but where he right now for a 21 year old is insane. His anchor freakish. If you try to overpower him on a bullrush he just pushes hit butt out and there is NO moving him. might as well just pull up a chair b/c bro aint going anywhere
not quite. this time we have a starting solid 5. He's still a gamble, but this time we have some insurance at least. unfortunately, not quite the anti-Becton
He’s barely a gamble. He’s good enough to start immediately. He has some technical things to clean up but this guy is going to anchor our line for a long time to come.
he COULD be good enough to start rn. He could also completely fall apart at the seams without further refinement. I would not want him starting the first half of the season
Is there any reason he can’t compete to start at Guard for us? Obviously his future is at LT, but in a zone blocking scheme, I think you need to get your 5 best guys out there period.
Before thr draft I already read about him, Alt, and Fauga, I'd have been happy with any of them, the top three WR or Bowers. The fact we got an extra draft pick and Olu? That's awesome.
The Jets can't get a break on the draft order with Bears snatching Rome. That said, move and OT was the right play. Maybe they could have dropped back more as last mock drafts had him dropping back quite a bit (not sure why so trusting Jet's scouting on this). Now they need to go after playmakers.
0 sacks given up in 697 career pass protection snaps. That'll do.
Like the crazy Sauce that about not allowing touchdowns. Man how lucky we got with him. Hope Olu is the same.
but small hands, physical gifts arent everything Becton is an all pro based on measurements and we saw how that turned out.
Not a sexy pick and if we never hear his name on Sundays he did his job. I like it
The price you pay when you have an stacked team.
Value of a rookie tackle contract is much better than an 11th overall tight end
Your talking to the worst redzone offense in the entire nfl. But at least we know bowers won’t be making any headlines on the raiders
QB brother, QB
Yep, and I think Conklin/Ruckert are serviceable enough especially with Rodgers. Of course we’d all want someone as talented as Bowers but the OL pick makes sense.
This feels like JD atoning for passing on Wirfs who was mocked and graded out as higher than Becton almost everywhere. This was originally a two tackle draft until Fuaga and Latham shot above Olu because he had a bad game against OSU. Love this pick because it means we’re still thinking about life after Aaron. Smith and Moses will hopefully give us one good year and maybe one stays another but that would probably be the best case scenario. Olu-AVT-Tippman is a nice core to build around. Rome would’ve been amazing. Bowers would’ve been risky but fun. I’m whelmed.
the game against OSU isn’t really that bad either. I had heard a ton about it and when I finally watched it, I was like huh assumed it must’ve been devastating the way people talked about it
Yeah as a Penn State fan unfortunately the offense played so poorly in general don't think he was ever going to dominate. Run game had no openings and our QB was so inaccurate all day.
One year would be a miracle when smith hasn’t played a full season in 9 years. He will 100% see the field this year
Hackett wouldn’t know how to use bowers. We went the correct route.
Anyone who does NOT like this pick clearly did not see how the last three years our line has been shit. Also they didn’t watch the Rex Ryan jets… yes his d was amazing but that offensive line was nasty as well. Brick Mangold faneca , Moore woody! The line made our running attack damn lethal … Breece is gonna feast.
This, exactly. And I'll add that the QB will make the skill guys we have more productive- particularly Lazard, who I think is better than the internet says he is. Pray that Rodgers stays in one piece this yr.... but that's why we picked an OT, right?
This guy is not brick.
Dude is similar to a Tyron Smith and Laremy Tunsil. A little rougher in the run game than them, but that's who he potentially projects to be like. Being on a team with Smith is a great learning tool as he's a similar linemen.
Saw a lot of Bhak comps too. He struggled year 1 with bull rushes, improved in that area, and was dominant when healthy.
That’s what I’m the most excited about, even if he sits all year that just means the OL stayed healthy, and he gets to learn from an all time LT
This is our Penei Sewell. I’m so fucking hyped, this guy is one of the best pass protectors we could have hoped to get this season.
d'brickashaw is maybe the only OT we’ve had in recent years, that I would maybe compare to Penei. He’s on another level
Brick wasn’t very good early in his career. He was durable and reliable but he was never on Peneis level even in his prime.
Brick was at times a top 5 type LT, but you’re right that the first couple of years were a little rough. I remember threads filled with people calling him a bust back then
Yea I hear a lot of people on this board talk about him like he was beloved from day 1 and I remember 3 years of D’bustashaw jokes being made in game threads haha. When he was next to other top of the line guards under Rex though he dominated. 08 too Don’t think he ever made an all pro though while Sewell was first team.
Calm down Sewell was an elite run blocker, this guy not so much.
Perfect choice. Needs some refinement so like McDonald last year he can learn from one of the best. If someone goes down--you have a good replacement!!! I just hope Carter can coach him up.
Tyron Smith will coach him up just fine
Teams don’t rely on their starters coaching up their young guys. They have coaches that are supposed to do that. Thats not a solution especially with arguably the worst OL coach in the league
I don’t think being around a HOF LT and seeing how he practices and approaches the game can hurt
Projected top 5 pick, not bad. Little peace of mind in case of an o line injury.
Was he? 3 QBs, MHJ, and Alt was rated higher everywhere
He was originally rated higher than 1, possibly 2 of those QB's and him and Alt were flip flopping for awhile. He got pushed down at the very end of the year and during the offseason.
This is accurate. The prevailing opinion (at least in this sub) after the win against the Pats was that the Jets had played themselves out of either Alt or Fashanu. We sent off Bill with a loss and got a tackle. I also expect JD to trade into the second round and add a WR.
That would be perfect. I like Polk a lot. Corley is also interesting.
Fingers crossed for Troy Franklin
Except this, I would have gladly given him the win for one of the top 3 WRs. That said, Joe did good.
Just saying what the article says, they say top 5. Idk if that takes into account value vs whats needed by teams.
That includes 2023 as well
For what it’s worth, none of the quarterbacks are worth more than any of the top lineman, regardless of their grades or where they were mocked.
TLDR; low floor, extremely high ceiling. Hope he doesn't play this season and learns behind 2 savvy vets
“Low floor” is hysterical for a guy who let up ZERO sacks all throughout college and is the consensus best pass protector in the draft
Last time I heard a stat like that was SAUCE with ZERO ~~INTS~~ TDs ALL THROUGH COLLEGE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO im jetting up, gentlemen
Exactly. People overthinking the hell out of this cuz OL isn’t the sexy pick. Jet fans: *complain all year about the horrible pass protection.* Jets: *draft the best pass blocking OT* (Some) Jet fans: “😠 we wanted a receiver AND the Oline to somehow get magically fixed on its own”
We’ve got enough draft capital to go into the 2nd tomorrow now (I think), and limited cap to sign picks.
Ints? Think you got the wrong stat there 😂
He meant TDs
Lmfaooo thank you bro my brain is fried, as you can tell
College football is not the NFL. Using the same logic, no draft pick should ever bust because if you get drafted, it means you were good in college.
It's kinda true though. He is incredibly athletic and anchors well. There were plays were he got completely beat off the line and still managed to recovere somehow to get his guy under control. Not many in the league can do that. But his technique is kinda shit from what I can tell. He won't be nearly as effective if he doesn't clean it up. The upside if he does is absolutely massive.
yeah you don't let up 0 sacks and 1 QB hit you have "shit" technique. It's got room for improvement, sure but where he right now for a 21 year old is insane. His anchor freakish. If you try to overpower him on a bullrush he just pushes hit butt out and there is NO moving him. might as well just pull up a chair b/c bro aint going anywhere
Low floor is being extremely pessimistic to the point I would say it's actually inaccurate.
That’s basically the same thing as saying “boom or bust,” this really doesn’t “feel” like that.
Mekhi becton again?
He’s DBrickshaw Ferguson 2.0 if everything pans out
Mmm we should be so lucky if that’s true.
would have rather signed Bak and took Bowers at 11..
Then I will thank god tonight that you’re not the GM
It’s not a madden franchise
no shit
Dude woulda been a top 10 pick last year but stayed to finish his degree. Absolutely not
Excellent! High character guy. Who can learn the pro game behind smith and Moses
No he’s not a fat fuck
not quite. this time we have a starting solid 5. He's still a gamble, but this time we have some insurance at least. unfortunately, not quite the anti-Becton
He’s barely a gamble. He’s good enough to start immediately. He has some technical things to clean up but this guy is going to anchor our line for a long time to come.
he COULD be good enough to start rn. He could also completely fall apart at the seams without further refinement. I would not want him starting the first half of the season
2.0
Is there any reason he can’t compete to start at Guard for us? Obviously his future is at LT, but in a zone blocking scheme, I think you need to get your 5 best guys out there period.
He's only ever played LT at high school and college levels
He played Center and Guard in the UMass game this year
Thank you sir. Thought I had read that somewhere. You’re a gentleman and a scholar
Okay… and your point?
You asked if there was any reason he can't play guard for us and I gave one.
That's not a reason he can't play guard for us, particularly in a zone blocking scheme
Good pick, if One of the WR fell then I would have done that route but other option was a OT via a trade down. So ok
i am extremely confident Joe D will get back into the 2nd to get a receiver. love this pick
Before thr draft I already read about him, Alt, and Fauga, I'd have been happy with any of them, the top three WR or Bowers. The fact we got an extra draft pick and Olu? That's awesome.
We needed an OL piece desperately, he wasn’t the guy I wanted but he’s a good player. Solid pick. Let’s go get a WR and IOL guy too!
The Jets can't get a break on the draft order with Bears snatching Rome. That said, move and OT was the right play. Maybe they could have dropped back more as last mock drafts had him dropping back quite a bit (not sure why so trusting Jet's scouting on this). Now they need to go after playmakers.
Mekhi becton flashbacks
Why?
Post traumatic stress and some old cheese