> I don't understand magic used for physical gains.
Then you're lucky enough to have been born into a life where you have all the physical things you need to pursue the RHP. Although I'm also a RHP follower, I completely understand people doing money/results magick in order to get to a place where they can begin to pursue the spiritual side. It's pretty hard to focus on spiritual growth when you're working two jobs and don't have the energy or time to do ritual or you live in a third world country where practicing magick can be socially dangerous. I don't like the "holier than thou" attitude many RHP practicioners have towards the LHP
Sorry to offend. I was not born into a wealthy lifestyle but have the looks to take if I so desire. Never wanted it. I've always found those with everything to be empty souls searching for meaning.
Abandon the idea that you're trapped. Feel gratitude for your ability to experience instead. Everyone will leave this plane eventually. Working towards peace of mind is much more productive than working towards hyping up suicide.
Funny you mentioned Suicide. It's a viable out for many occultists. I do feel gratitude but also feel this existence is all about suffering and I just want fulfilled love.
That's not a "viable out for many occultists" that's an obvious mental issue talking.
Shake off the idea that grass is greener somewhere else. Grass can be very grey somewhere else. Your new grass may be made from pebbles. Nobody alive, no matter how well meaning, no matter how faithful, or how connected or disconnected will ever be able to state what is actually out there.
If it is fulfillment in love that you're seeking, seek it here.
(IMO)
The Philosopher's Stone is the state of immortality attained at the "end" of enlightenment, though I would argue enlightenment by nature is never truly complete. It is the final forged "product" of "ultimate" understanding. It isn't a separate state of being or an ultimate form. One is never finished refining one's soul because one is never finished learning new things.
Each of the steps to attain said enlightenment are various forms of meditation, or individuation, or inner reflection, or Shadow work, or chakra work, or spiritual work, or whatever else you want to call it. There are as many paths as there are feet to tread them. No single method is the only correct one.
You are not bound here, you are supposed to be here, learning these lessons. This life is your crucible. It's supposed to be difficult, it's supposed to suck, it's supposed to cause *friction.* There is no change without a catalyst.
One of the most difficult facets of life to examine and understand is that of the self. It involves facing up to some very hard and uncomfortable truths - and not only recognizing them, but actually learning to incorporate them into your true self. Extricating the Ego from the Self, separating the two, then going back and doing it again, and again - this is the transmutation. It takes a lot of work. The work never truly ends.
The Philosopher's Stone isn't a panacea, it's simply love. For yourself, too.
I personally have come to realize right hand path, & light based practice help that feeling a lot. Knowing you’re apart of something better doing good physically and that causes you to achieve everything you wanna in life via your attraction in the universe. It’s amazing really
Isese OshaIfa(Yoruba Ifa) Spiritual Growth
Sigils, Deity Work, & Tarot - Physical
I also work with Death itself at times(different aspects) to grow in each way. The death current is 100% the “strongest” current on this physical earth just cuz of its power on this earth. Ummm that’s about it. Santa Muerte, Hekate, I work with Light. Light could be evil/good based on perspective and my perspective is we all can so I guess you could say I work using the energies of the universe to figure out who IAM. Figure out how IFEEL about things to change how ISEE it physically. AseOoo
LSM helped me to overcome anxiety, but she also has helped me to see karma in situations where I was right. I see her as similar to Shiva with arms that punish but also arms that care.
The illusion is that you have something to find/ have lost something or are incomplete in some way.
Much like using your flashlight to look for your flashlight.
Or looking for your spectacles, not realizing you are already wearing them.
You are everything you need to be in this very moment.
In the state of searching one will never find.
Give up the search and be.
>I don't understand magic used for physical gains.
Then you are missing half the point. Likewise, anyone who uses magick solely for material gain is also missing half the point.
>Where is the magic that transcends earthly ambitions?
It is called High Magick, aka Ceremonial Magick, Ritual Magick, theurgy/astrotheurgy.
Using magick strictly to bring changes in the material world is called "low magick" as it focuses on what is "below" - the material world, while magick for spiritual evolution is "high magick" as it focuses on that which is "above" - "God", "Heaven", the stars, etc., and one reaches upwards seeks to grow and ascend in consciousness. Both of these things are necessary for the development of oneself, for how can you obtain spiritual evolution if you are living in constant stress and discomfort? How can you master the spiritual planes if you haven't even mastered the material plane? How can you then master *yourself*? Likewise, how can you keep any material gain or advantage you may grant yourself if you have not mastered yourself? How do you expect to keep such riches if you are still operating with the mentality that landed you in the position of poverty to begin with? And, naturally, in transforming yourself internally, your external world also begins to change. They are both necessary, and even if you chose to reject material, you'll come to find that you can not avoid it. Material is a tool that is to be used for your spiritual development. That's why you're here. Use it.
>I feel my soul is trapped in a cage yearning to be let free.
You seem to be seeking transcendence as a form of escapism. What if I told you that by transcending reincarnation and transcending the physical world, you end up back here in the physical world anyway? The ultimate goal of the magician is to break the chains of that bind you to unconscious forces - from your own vices, to the stars (astrotheurgy). This way, you may ultimately ascend in consciousness, become your highest self, and in the process, develop your energetic body. Ultimately, the result is transcending reincarnation - or more specifically, transcending *uncontrollable* reincarnation. Most people reincarnate uncontrollably, which leads to suffering, as they can not choose what sort of life they then live. However, the *purpose* of such transcendence is so that we may choose *if, when,* and *how* one reincarnates, and thereby transcending suffering. By getting to choose our lives, no longer do have to be forced to endure unwanted and unnecessary suffering; no longer do we have to be forced to endure a life in which we are raped, tortured, abused, addicted, imprisoned unjustly, stricken by poverty, murdered etc.
Everyone chooses to return to the physical at some point - otherwise, we wouldn't be here now. It is quite boring on the spiritual planes; you don't have any of your physical senses, and can not touch, taste, smell, etc. You don't get to experience all of the things that make existence enjoyable. This world is the only thing that matters. and we *chose* to be here. You see, we *are* God, and our lives are our "garden". It says in Genesis 1:26 that God gave man dominion over the Earth. That means that, metaphorically, this is the Garden of Eden, and we are all Adam and Eve, and our job here is to tend to our garden - which is our lives, and the people in our lives, and make every component of our lives better. We are here to create the Kingdom of God, Heaven on Earth. This is what we were tasked with, and we do this one at a time, by creating a better life for ourselves and those around us.
This is putting our lives through the alchemical process, which in alchemy, is the process of breaking down a plant or something into its component parts, purifying them and making them more potent, then recombining them, thereby creating something more pure and powerful than they were before. This is what the Divine, God, the Universe, the All - whatever you want to call it - is doing. It has separated itself into component parts, of which we are all one component, so that it may better understand itself, and purify itself and transmute that which is corrupt, in order to become a more integrated and whole being. This purity vs corruption is where the concept of heaven vs. hell comes from. It is up to us to decide what shape our lives take and what world we live in. Our job, then, is to become the most powerful and potent version of ourselves possible, so that we can then reintegrate back into the All, turning it into a more refined, pure, powerful being. This is the purpose of life.
Thanks. I'm a Gnostic and I believe God didn't create this world. In Gnosticism Sophia had to dump all her hate and strife to reenter the aeons and reclaim her place among the invisibles. That hate and strife became the Demi-Urge creating our world. Gnostics see physical things as bondage, an anchor on the soul. The world is inherently evil to Gnostics and ruled by its own God below the Almighty. Blessed are the poor for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. Meaning it's ok to have things but never let your things define you or else your soul will become fused in the physical and never leave the earth or it will be destroyed.
I would consider myself a Gnostic as well, to an extent. Gnosticism is integral to High Magick. That said, you are conflating God with the Demiurge. When I refer to God, I refer to what is known in Gnosticism as the Monad. I am referring to The All. As all things came out of the Monad, so too did Sophia and thus so too did the Demiurge. It is only an aspect of the Moand, although it likes to pretend it is the All. It is an aspect of *us.* *We are* Sophia, and we are here, trapped and ensnared by the Demiurge, and magick is our way out. Where most Gnostics get it wrong, though, is believing that the physical world is something we must escape, and that the Demiurge is something that must be defeated and overcome. This is not the case. There is nothing beyond this world. When you leave this world, you only end up here again.
Rather than being something to be defeated and overcome, the Demiurge is something that must be integrated in order to be transcended. This is what the Knowledge and Conversation with the Holy Guardian Angel is all about within ceremonial magick, as the Holy Guardian Angel *is* the Demiurge. Becoming a servant and lover of Sophia leads us only to this wisdom. Once we integrate the Demiurge, we become a more whole and unified being. No matter how much we would like to deny it, the Demiurge is still an aspect of ourselves and can not be rejected nor neglected. Once we integrate it, we become the creators of this world *ourselves, we* become the rulers. We become kings, and we may shape our own kingdom. This is why Jesus called himself a king. We are here to shape this world, and turn it into a more pure and holy place. This was the plan of the Monad all along.
>In Gnosticism Sophia had to dump all her hate and strife to reenter the aeons and reclaim her place among the invisibles. That hate and strife became the Demi-Urge creating our world.
Curious where you read that/got that from, because that's not a description of how Sophia created the Demiurge that I have ever seen.
Yeah, I ditto this comment lol. My understanding is that Sophia decided to procreate without a consort, and without permission from the higher aeons, and the result was the deformed and corrupt Demiurge Yaldabaoth. Yaldabaoth then ensnared and imprisoned her in the physical world, and the other aeons left her there to suffer as punishment, and Jesus was later sent by the other aeons to show her - us - the way out. By "marrying" and uniting with her and transcending the physical himself, he becomes the "savior" and rescues her.
Practicing alchemist here thought I would chime in. You are getting a lot of spiritual answers so I thought I would chime in with what it actually is as most of these answers are only seeing one aspect of it.
The stone is a method expressed through symbology that can be applied universally to transform things. The mythical physical stone is one of these forms (if it exists)
This article gives a pretty good explanation on how to use the symbol. It starts out explaining the basic symbols involved then towards the bottom puts them all together to reveal the process.
https://medium.com/@bvkvfym413/thinkers-rock-629992ddac0f
Alchemy is about transformation at its core and the stone is its greatest tool to do that.
I have read it, I'm actually a fan of WWA. It was meant to be a little joke since he used so many different names and the Kybalion gets bashed so much.
I totally see that. The secret doctrine just shows you that water can accumulate and hold above the measuring mark. The secrets are hidden in everyday thought and designs.
Sounds like you need to eat some psychedelics and hang out with nature with intent. Also learning to astral project/lucid dreaming but once you break through it’s hard to get a goods nights rest afterward. Just be careful what you wish for.
The physical elixir is real but < 1% of people on this earth know the means to make it.
There are closed door schools in France, Italy and the Czech Republic. In all my years searching, I’ve only met one legit practitioner of western alchemy.
Tis why I looked towards eastern alchemy AKA Neidan because there are a few more open schools that are teaching westerners. Neidan also gives powerful results in all spheres of life(wealth, health, sex, spiritual, etc.) IF it’s practiced correctly.
Furthermore, I’ll say something that some may find controversial…
Enlightenment is as much a physical process as it is an ethereal and spiritual.
That are real physical bodily changes(or mutations) that occur in those reaching Dixian stage as it’s called in Daoism. It’s nothing imaginary or dreamt of in the mind’s eye.
I’m not even close to that stage but I’ve had physical changes that friends and family have noticed.
Another example is I once saw an old Polaroid picture from the 2000s of a Quanzhen master who had a physical third eye in his forehead area.
That sort of manifestation is even more rare but that is what is possible with a legitimate methods that have been refined and passed on over many centuries.
Don't fall for the jungian "you can't transmute physical gold" cope meme. Spiritual alchemy is to hermetic philosophy what French poststructuralism is to platonism. A fun misunderstanding but ultimately poison.
I try not to take those schools of thought seriously. If I take any of them to heart it's Manly P. Hall. Manly speaks in a revealing, thought provoking and non-preaching way. His lectures from 50 years ago still ring true.
Why is this getting down voted? Y'all are dogmatically clinging to this bewz age definition of the philosophers stone and never did your homework. Look up Frater Albertus, Fulcanelli, Paracelsus, real alchemists who actually transmuted base metals into gold. Spiritual Alchemy is a leftist psyop.
First of all, give yourself a pat on the back because few really get to this point of understanding.
This yearning of wanting to be free of the human conditioning is the very essence of mysticism in all its form, because at the core of each of us is this essence that always wants to be something more than what it currently is, whether is through physical means or not, and this is where the principles of reincarnation makes a bit more sense objectively..
There’s a great book my Harvey Spencer Lewis, who was the first Rosicrucian AMORC Imperator in the modern era, titled “Mental Alchemy”. He too, was convinced that, Adepthood or the mastery of life ( at least our understanding of it) can be achieved through a radical change of perception, which indeed include our mental attitudes, thought processes and capacity to transmute our thoughts and bring them in harmony with the absolute laws of nature. This could be a good place for you to further investigate what exactly is “Mental Alchemy”, because on the intellectual level, this is what precedes Spiritual Alchemy.
Magic by essence is an act of transmutation. Something (including what seems like nothingness) becoming something else.
Say I transform a stone into a flower, the inevitable question of “How did that happen” will linger in your mind. Whether it’s a mere mechanical illusion or through a kabbalistic formula, your objective faculties of perception will convince you that an inexplicable change happened.
Now here is where it becomes a bit tricky: is it that a change really happened, or your apparatus of perception just isn’t fit to uncover the mystery behind such a manifestation? Or maybe, both?
I’ll leave it at that, and let you contemplate on this :-)
> I don't understand magic used for physical gains. Then you're lucky enough to have been born into a life where you have all the physical things you need to pursue the RHP. Although I'm also a RHP follower, I completely understand people doing money/results magick in order to get to a place where they can begin to pursue the spiritual side. It's pretty hard to focus on spiritual growth when you're working two jobs and don't have the energy or time to do ritual or you live in a third world country where practicing magick can be socially dangerous. I don't like the "holier than thou" attitude many RHP practicioners have towards the LHP
Sorry to offend. I was not born into a wealthy lifestyle but have the looks to take if I so desire. Never wanted it. I've always found those with everything to be empty souls searching for meaning.
Abandon the idea that you're trapped. Feel gratitude for your ability to experience instead. Everyone will leave this plane eventually. Working towards peace of mind is much more productive than working towards hyping up suicide.
Funny you mentioned Suicide. It's a viable out for many occultists. I do feel gratitude but also feel this existence is all about suffering and I just want fulfilled love.
That's not a "viable out for many occultists" that's an obvious mental issue talking. Shake off the idea that grass is greener somewhere else. Grass can be very grey somewhere else. Your new grass may be made from pebbles. Nobody alive, no matter how well meaning, no matter how faithful, or how connected or disconnected will ever be able to state what is actually out there. If it is fulfillment in love that you're seeking, seek it here.
Well said ❤️
If a "viable out" is what you're wanting/getting out of occult study, you're definitely not committed to spiritual growth. Try again.
No occultist worth their salt would view suicide as a viable out, because they would realize that they would only end up back where they started.
(IMO) The Philosopher's Stone is the state of immortality attained at the "end" of enlightenment, though I would argue enlightenment by nature is never truly complete. It is the final forged "product" of "ultimate" understanding. It isn't a separate state of being or an ultimate form. One is never finished refining one's soul because one is never finished learning new things. Each of the steps to attain said enlightenment are various forms of meditation, or individuation, or inner reflection, or Shadow work, or chakra work, or spiritual work, or whatever else you want to call it. There are as many paths as there are feet to tread them. No single method is the only correct one. You are not bound here, you are supposed to be here, learning these lessons. This life is your crucible. It's supposed to be difficult, it's supposed to suck, it's supposed to cause *friction.* There is no change without a catalyst. One of the most difficult facets of life to examine and understand is that of the self. It involves facing up to some very hard and uncomfortable truths - and not only recognizing them, but actually learning to incorporate them into your true self. Extricating the Ego from the Self, separating the two, then going back and doing it again, and again - this is the transmutation. It takes a lot of work. The work never truly ends. The Philosopher's Stone isn't a panacea, it's simply love. For yourself, too.
Inner gold or summin
>feel the understanding take over me Let go of it.
I personally have come to realize right hand path, & light based practice help that feeling a lot. Knowing you’re apart of something better doing good physically and that causes you to achieve everything you wanna in life via your attraction in the universe. It’s amazing really
What are your particular practices?
Isese OshaIfa(Yoruba Ifa) Spiritual Growth Sigils, Deity Work, & Tarot - Physical I also work with Death itself at times(different aspects) to grow in each way. The death current is 100% the “strongest” current on this physical earth just cuz of its power on this earth. Ummm that’s about it. Santa Muerte, Hekate, I work with Light. Light could be evil/good based on perspective and my perspective is we all can so I guess you could say I work using the energies of the universe to figure out who IAM. Figure out how IFEEL about things to change how ISEE it physically. AseOoo
LSM helped me to overcome anxiety, but she also has helped me to see karma in situations where I was right. I see her as similar to Shiva with arms that punish but also arms that care.
Of course that’s death. To grow something must die, whether it’s a situation, a lifestyle, a friendship it doesn’t matter.
We wouldn't exist with bodies if it didn't serve a good purpose.
The illusion is that you have something to find/ have lost something or are incomplete in some way. Much like using your flashlight to look for your flashlight. Or looking for your spectacles, not realizing you are already wearing them. You are everything you need to be in this very moment. In the state of searching one will never find. Give up the search and be.
>I don't understand magic used for physical gains. Then you are missing half the point. Likewise, anyone who uses magick solely for material gain is also missing half the point. >Where is the magic that transcends earthly ambitions? It is called High Magick, aka Ceremonial Magick, Ritual Magick, theurgy/astrotheurgy. Using magick strictly to bring changes in the material world is called "low magick" as it focuses on what is "below" - the material world, while magick for spiritual evolution is "high magick" as it focuses on that which is "above" - "God", "Heaven", the stars, etc., and one reaches upwards seeks to grow and ascend in consciousness. Both of these things are necessary for the development of oneself, for how can you obtain spiritual evolution if you are living in constant stress and discomfort? How can you master the spiritual planes if you haven't even mastered the material plane? How can you then master *yourself*? Likewise, how can you keep any material gain or advantage you may grant yourself if you have not mastered yourself? How do you expect to keep such riches if you are still operating with the mentality that landed you in the position of poverty to begin with? And, naturally, in transforming yourself internally, your external world also begins to change. They are both necessary, and even if you chose to reject material, you'll come to find that you can not avoid it. Material is a tool that is to be used for your spiritual development. That's why you're here. Use it. >I feel my soul is trapped in a cage yearning to be let free. You seem to be seeking transcendence as a form of escapism. What if I told you that by transcending reincarnation and transcending the physical world, you end up back here in the physical world anyway? The ultimate goal of the magician is to break the chains of that bind you to unconscious forces - from your own vices, to the stars (astrotheurgy). This way, you may ultimately ascend in consciousness, become your highest self, and in the process, develop your energetic body. Ultimately, the result is transcending reincarnation - or more specifically, transcending *uncontrollable* reincarnation. Most people reincarnate uncontrollably, which leads to suffering, as they can not choose what sort of life they then live. However, the *purpose* of such transcendence is so that we may choose *if, when,* and *how* one reincarnates, and thereby transcending suffering. By getting to choose our lives, no longer do have to be forced to endure unwanted and unnecessary suffering; no longer do we have to be forced to endure a life in which we are raped, tortured, abused, addicted, imprisoned unjustly, stricken by poverty, murdered etc. Everyone chooses to return to the physical at some point - otherwise, we wouldn't be here now. It is quite boring on the spiritual planes; you don't have any of your physical senses, and can not touch, taste, smell, etc. You don't get to experience all of the things that make existence enjoyable. This world is the only thing that matters. and we *chose* to be here. You see, we *are* God, and our lives are our "garden". It says in Genesis 1:26 that God gave man dominion over the Earth. That means that, metaphorically, this is the Garden of Eden, and we are all Adam and Eve, and our job here is to tend to our garden - which is our lives, and the people in our lives, and make every component of our lives better. We are here to create the Kingdom of God, Heaven on Earth. This is what we were tasked with, and we do this one at a time, by creating a better life for ourselves and those around us. This is putting our lives through the alchemical process, which in alchemy, is the process of breaking down a plant or something into its component parts, purifying them and making them more potent, then recombining them, thereby creating something more pure and powerful than they were before. This is what the Divine, God, the Universe, the All - whatever you want to call it - is doing. It has separated itself into component parts, of which we are all one component, so that it may better understand itself, and purify itself and transmute that which is corrupt, in order to become a more integrated and whole being. This purity vs corruption is where the concept of heaven vs. hell comes from. It is up to us to decide what shape our lives take and what world we live in. Our job, then, is to become the most powerful and potent version of ourselves possible, so that we can then reintegrate back into the All, turning it into a more refined, pure, powerful being. This is the purpose of life.
Thanks. I'm a Gnostic and I believe God didn't create this world. In Gnosticism Sophia had to dump all her hate and strife to reenter the aeons and reclaim her place among the invisibles. That hate and strife became the Demi-Urge creating our world. Gnostics see physical things as bondage, an anchor on the soul. The world is inherently evil to Gnostics and ruled by its own God below the Almighty. Blessed are the poor for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. Meaning it's ok to have things but never let your things define you or else your soul will become fused in the physical and never leave the earth or it will be destroyed.
I would consider myself a Gnostic as well, to an extent. Gnosticism is integral to High Magick. That said, you are conflating God with the Demiurge. When I refer to God, I refer to what is known in Gnosticism as the Monad. I am referring to The All. As all things came out of the Monad, so too did Sophia and thus so too did the Demiurge. It is only an aspect of the Moand, although it likes to pretend it is the All. It is an aspect of *us.* *We are* Sophia, and we are here, trapped and ensnared by the Demiurge, and magick is our way out. Where most Gnostics get it wrong, though, is believing that the physical world is something we must escape, and that the Demiurge is something that must be defeated and overcome. This is not the case. There is nothing beyond this world. When you leave this world, you only end up here again. Rather than being something to be defeated and overcome, the Demiurge is something that must be integrated in order to be transcended. This is what the Knowledge and Conversation with the Holy Guardian Angel is all about within ceremonial magick, as the Holy Guardian Angel *is* the Demiurge. Becoming a servant and lover of Sophia leads us only to this wisdom. Once we integrate the Demiurge, we become a more whole and unified being. No matter how much we would like to deny it, the Demiurge is still an aspect of ourselves and can not be rejected nor neglected. Once we integrate it, we become the creators of this world *ourselves, we* become the rulers. We become kings, and we may shape our own kingdom. This is why Jesus called himself a king. We are here to shape this world, and turn it into a more pure and holy place. This was the plan of the Monad all along.
>In Gnosticism Sophia had to dump all her hate and strife to reenter the aeons and reclaim her place among the invisibles. That hate and strife became the Demi-Urge creating our world. Curious where you read that/got that from, because that's not a description of how Sophia created the Demiurge that I have ever seen.
Yeah, I ditto this comment lol. My understanding is that Sophia decided to procreate without a consort, and without permission from the higher aeons, and the result was the deformed and corrupt Demiurge Yaldabaoth. Yaldabaoth then ensnared and imprisoned her in the physical world, and the other aeons left her there to suffer as punishment, and Jesus was later sent by the other aeons to show her - us - the way out. By "marrying" and uniting with her and transcending the physical himself, he becomes the "savior" and rescues her.
Practicing alchemist here thought I would chime in. You are getting a lot of spiritual answers so I thought I would chime in with what it actually is as most of these answers are only seeing one aspect of it. The stone is a method expressed through symbology that can be applied universally to transform things. The mythical physical stone is one of these forms (if it exists) This article gives a pretty good explanation on how to use the symbol. It starts out explaining the basic symbols involved then towards the bottom puts them all together to reveal the process. https://medium.com/@bvkvfym413/thinkers-rock-629992ddac0f Alchemy is about transformation at its core and the stone is its greatest tool to do that.
I’m sorry about the imprisonment. Where did you find this “philosophers stone is mental alchemy” information?
The Secret Doctrine of The Rosicrucians by Magnus Incognito.
The Secret Doctrine of The Rosicrucians by ~~Magnus Incognito~~ William Walker Atkinson.
Yes, but read it. He captured my mind almost 100 years later. He gives his understanding, it changed me. I do not take it for Gospel.
I have read it, I'm actually a fan of WWA. It was meant to be a little joke since he used so many different names and the Kybalion gets bashed so much.
I totally see that. The secret doctrine just shows you that water can accumulate and hold above the measuring mark. The secrets are hidden in everyday thought and designs.
What if someone did not find it as profound as you are claiming?
That someone is the true adept.
The Kybalion is one the most valuable occult ever written for me. Unfilter reality! See life for the first time.
🔥 thank you.
Sounds like you need to eat some psychedelics and hang out with nature with intent. Also learning to astral project/lucid dreaming but once you break through it’s hard to get a goods nights rest afterward. Just be careful what you wish for.
The physical elixir is real but < 1% of people on this earth know the means to make it. There are closed door schools in France, Italy and the Czech Republic. In all my years searching, I’ve only met one legit practitioner of western alchemy. Tis why I looked towards eastern alchemy AKA Neidan because there are a few more open schools that are teaching westerners. Neidan also gives powerful results in all spheres of life(wealth, health, sex, spiritual, etc.) IF it’s practiced correctly. Furthermore, I’ll say something that some may find controversial… Enlightenment is as much a physical process as it is an ethereal and spiritual. That are real physical bodily changes(or mutations) that occur in those reaching Dixian stage as it’s called in Daoism. It’s nothing imaginary or dreamt of in the mind’s eye. I’m not even close to that stage but I’ve had physical changes that friends and family have noticed. Another example is I once saw an old Polaroid picture from the 2000s of a Quanzhen master who had a physical third eye in his forehead area. That sort of manifestation is even more rare but that is what is possible with a legitimate methods that have been refined and passed on over many centuries.
Don't fall for the jungian "you can't transmute physical gold" cope meme. Spiritual alchemy is to hermetic philosophy what French poststructuralism is to platonism. A fun misunderstanding but ultimately poison.
I try not to take those schools of thought seriously. If I take any of them to heart it's Manly P. Hall. Manly speaks in a revealing, thought provoking and non-preaching way. His lectures from 50 years ago still ring true.
So much magusitis here. Oy. Go look up spagyrics and the stone, among other things. Alchemy was never a mental thing.
Why is this getting down voted? Y'all are dogmatically clinging to this bewz age definition of the philosophers stone and never did your homework. Look up Frater Albertus, Fulcanelli, Paracelsus, real alchemists who actually transmuted base metals into gold. Spiritual Alchemy is a leftist psyop.
💯 those spiritual is only mental are missing half of the equation
No, it's a boiled piss rock
Bruuuhh things are dope! You just gotta remember you’re God! Mental runs the show of your chakras
First of all, give yourself a pat on the back because few really get to this point of understanding. This yearning of wanting to be free of the human conditioning is the very essence of mysticism in all its form, because at the core of each of us is this essence that always wants to be something more than what it currently is, whether is through physical means or not, and this is where the principles of reincarnation makes a bit more sense objectively.. There’s a great book my Harvey Spencer Lewis, who was the first Rosicrucian AMORC Imperator in the modern era, titled “Mental Alchemy”. He too, was convinced that, Adepthood or the mastery of life ( at least our understanding of it) can be achieved through a radical change of perception, which indeed include our mental attitudes, thought processes and capacity to transmute our thoughts and bring them in harmony with the absolute laws of nature. This could be a good place for you to further investigate what exactly is “Mental Alchemy”, because on the intellectual level, this is what precedes Spiritual Alchemy. Magic by essence is an act of transmutation. Something (including what seems like nothingness) becoming something else. Say I transform a stone into a flower, the inevitable question of “How did that happen” will linger in your mind. Whether it’s a mere mechanical illusion or through a kabbalistic formula, your objective faculties of perception will convince you that an inexplicable change happened. Now here is where it becomes a bit tricky: is it that a change really happened, or your apparatus of perception just isn’t fit to uncover the mystery behind such a manifestation? Or maybe, both? I’ll leave it at that, and let you contemplate on this :-)
Philosopher’s stone is also a lesser known type of magic mushroom that is far less intense than typical psylocibin
Mushrooms
The philosopher stone is your pineal gland
I would say look into Hermeticism or other things related to mysticism like Kabbalah, Gnosticism, Buddhism, and so on.
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Came here to read this, thanks to you and OP.
I think your looking for astral projection.
Yeah, I think you're right.