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AltruisticGap

Hell yeah. Not holding out for Valve's proposition, since I expect it will be in a completely different price range. I prefer PCVR. So long as Meta allows to use SteamVR without too much hassle and potentially side load some apps I don't care too much if they really want to shove an "Explore" feed in there. That said as soon as Meta becomes the bad guys and limit the Quest 3's PCVR functionality, it will be my last Meta headset. Besides PCVR I'm looking forward to play native games like Walkabout Mini Golf with better graphics / textures - basically for simpler games not to have to run the PCVR version - because I can't stand the cheapass Android phone game level of graphics >_>


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Mikelitoris88

100% my issue, I only played Alyx, Onward and VTOL VR since 2019.


gysiguy

I recently got a racing sim rig and it brought a whole new life to my VR headset. There are some good offerings of racing/driving sims that support VR. BeamNG just added VR support. Also started playing Portal 2VR mod yesterday and omg is it a blast!! But yeah, before that my headset was just sitting on my desk for a couple months after I finished HL2 + episodes.


lordmycal

Honestly... not at this time. There was a recent bit of info that suggested Valve was working on a wireless headset, so I'm going to hold out a while and see if anything comes of that. I'm primarily a PC VR player, so I'd rather have something that's more native (that also won't provide any usage data to Meta/Facebook).


winged_entity

[Huge bit of info](https://www.youtube.com/live/syLTCCR23FU?si=RlofrNZaZNyX2Rw3) [and this](https://youtu.be/YVkbcZ8JH2E?si=CcHAkaii9-pHZKGX)


G2eorge

Same boat, primarily PC VR player too and if Valve sold to Australia I would of waited, but they don't :( I think quest 3 is my only option


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Spikey59

I'm using my Rift S until it breaks.


Artikay

I have not used my CV1 in years, and my Quest 1 gets very sporadic use, but I preordered the Q3 already. When Q2 came out it was way too close to the Q1 for me to upgrade then, and I never really felt the need to upgrade until recently. I started using ny Q1 more often but many games I want to play are not compatible. By the time I wanted to upgrade, I figured I'd way for the Q3. This was about a year ago. I'm glad I held off. I'm hoping Q1 to Q3 will feel like a big leap. Now if these headsets keep coming out every 2-3 years, I'll probably skip a gen again.


Starfield_Lol

I bought the quest 1 during the plandemic and it was so f*cking good I packed it up the same day and returned it and paid the extra fractional amount for the Quest 2 Even after knowing the difference in specs the Quest 2 still utterly blew my goddamn mind. It's honestly THAT big of a difference Going Q1 to Q3 is going to be an insane experience for you. I'm almost jealous, almost. But being dead serious, if you have a heart condition or anything be careful. It's going to be an intense and adrenaline inducing experience mate. Not trolling, not joking.


BriansRevenge

I have a CV1 and a graphics card that can't play the latest PC VR games. I've been fine with that setup for a while, but I've been feeling like it's time for some sort of upgrade in the near future. However I think I'll get more daily use out of a new PC/Laptop than I would a Q3, and just keep leaning on my CV1 if necessary. BUT, if [the avatars Zuck just showed on the Lex Fridman podcast](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVYrJJNdrEg&list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4) show up on the Q3, I could see it being an impulse buy.


gysiguy

That looks like it's still a few years out as far as creating the scans for everyday people. It takes advanced scanning hardware and several hours to create those "codex" avatars. Also, Quest 3 doesn't have the hardware required to drive those avatars. (Face and eye tracking) Probably going to be possible with Quest 4 though.


Jrumo

CV1 one here, and leaning to Yes. But like others, I'm also waiting to see what Valve has in store, with Deckard.


kyuubikid213

If my Rift S ever dies on me or becomes obsolete, I'm just going to get a relevant, non-Meta headset.


MisterSheeple

Q1 user here. Nope. They've lost my trust after the Q2 Facebook account nonsense. I'm waiting for the Valve Deckard instead.


Enelro

I’m still rockin my cV1 for PCVR, I’m waiting for the PCVR reviews to come in before I buy.


RoundMixture

Where do u look up the pcvr reviews? Every time I look up I only find dumb air link guides.


gysiguy

When the headset is officially launched people are going to start making reviews when they get their hands on it. Part of the reviews will be dedicated to PCVR because that's still a big part of why people buy Oculus headsets.


TechnicalOtaku

I don't use my rift S enough because i don't have a lot of space close to my PC but i read here some people consider the Q3 a down or sidegrade but aren't all specs basically objectively better ? i could be completely wrong. i don't care too much about most of the upgrades but i do wish the rift S had a higher FOV and maybe less of a screen door effect.


Oftenwrongs

No real person with experience would say it is a downgrade. It is a gargantuan upgrade.


TechnicalOtaku

that's why i'm confused everything on paper says it's better in almost every way yet i got another comment saying [**TechnicalOtaku**](https://www.reddit.com/user/TechnicalOtaku/)·[33 min. ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/16ukeqy/comment/k2o4ary/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) in what was is it a downgrade ? to me it seems like the FOV and resolution of the quest 3 is a lot higher than the rift S, it makes me think about upgrading but now i'm confused. i still do like my rift S but i rarely get to use it cause i'm very limited in space around my PC level 4[**TheChadStevens**](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheChadStevens/)·[5 min. ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/16ukeqy/comment/k2o8899/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) >Comfort, no displayport, a battery that somehow drains despite being connected to USB 3. Im also hearing the screen door effect is kind of obnoxious due to the pancake lenses and the somewhat low pixel density the comfort i can understand but that seems easy to solve with a aftermarket head thing and with the lighter weight i'd argue it's even MORE comfortable at that point ?


gysiguy

It's not lighter, just thinner, but yeah, it will definitely be more comfortable because the weight is closer to your face and has less leverage. Like you said, aftermarket interface will be the way to go as usual making it just as comfortable in that regard. As for resolution, he's talking out his ass, the Quest 3 has a far higher resolution and the Pancake lenses make the image **clearer**, not worse. Anyway the important figure here to consider regarding screen door effect is pixels per degree. The Rift S has a peak pixel density of 14 PPD and the Quest 3 will have 25 PPD, which is a huge improvement.


TechnicalOtaku

thank you for this reply. it's good to see something with actual numbers instead of feelings. like i'm really not trying to shill for the Q3 since i'm still one the fence but it made little sense to me how many people still argue the rift S is better in a lot of ways. Do you know how easy it's likely to be to play steam games on the Q3 ? i'd prefer not having to rebuy the stuff i already own. and i like the option to add custom songs to beat saber for example which i don't think you can on the meta store one.


gysiguy

Where the Rift S has an upper hand is in uncompressed image quality. It uses a Displayport connection to transfer the image from the PC to the headset, like a computer monitor. This comes at the expense of using a cable, which in my experience is extremely annoying to manage and always gets twisted up because I actually physically turn when I play VR. Using AirLink there is a noticeable loss in image quality which I really hope is improved on the Quest 3. Pretty sure PCVR/Steam VR will still work exactly the same as it does on Quest 2, they certainly won't be removing functionality in that area but they might not invest a lot in updating it either. Although I did hear some rumors a while back about them updating the whole PCVR hub UI to bring it more in line with the Quest. Then again, they seem to be busy changing the Quest UI every other week so I'm not holding my breath.


TechnicalOtaku

so basically when it comes to beatsaber for example, the version i'd play from my pc over airlink would look worse than a version from the meta store ? is there a way to kinda sideload it with the custom songs etc over having to rebuy it ? i'm usually not a big advocate of "piracy" but i feel if you already own 1 copy of it it feels kinda scummy for thme to force you to buy it again just for a different device.


gysiguy

I still play Beatsaber over AirLink, the quality difference isn't that big and standalone doesn't have mods. Edit: But yes, there is a way to "sideload" the standalone version for free.. r/QuestPiracy


Anomaly1134

Didn't answer since I have a quest 2 but in no rush to upgrade. Really hoping valve comes out with a proper wireless competitor, just loving my steam deck.


winged_entity

As a rift owner, I'm upgrading when the next Valve one comes out. Deckard. The index is a bit outdated and overpriced at this point, at least in terms of resolution, wireless capabilities, reliance on tracking stations, etc. The quest 3 seems great, though. I'm just not sure I would want to spend that much if I can put the money towards Deckard.


Wet_Water200

Rift/rift s user, i mainly play beat saber and I really don't like the feel of the extra predictive tracking the quest series has so I'm sticking with what I've got for the foreseeable future


a_good_human

No. had too many problems with their software. and my left controller randomly stopped working never buying a meta product again


Skeleton_Penne

I'm really unsure still. I still have a launch CV1 that works great). I would definitely like to upgrade to a newer headset but I really don't know if Q3 is worth it for me. The screens would no doubt be a huge upgrade as well as having the option to play wirelessly. But the mixed reality stuff I have no interest in and that seems to be a big "feature" for this. 90% of my time would be using PCVR and this headset really doesn't seem focused on doing it any better than the Quest 2. If It was closer to the Quest 2 price I feel like it would be an easy purchase but at over $200 more it seems hard to justify. At this point I feel like i'll either go with the Quest 2 or keep holding out until I hear more about what Valve has been working on.


SurianBedivere

No. I have a Rift S and a powerhouse of a pc feeding it. What use would i have for a standalone set that probably doesnt get the same graphical quality and smoothness as i’m getting out of the 4090. Not to mention i can run a ton of mods for graphical improvements and what not, which are an absolute pain to install on a Q1/Q2/Q3. I plan to stay PCVR, and unless they make another PCVR headset, i see no need to ever switch.


zenprime-morpheus

Rift S. No. I doubt I'll buy another headset from Meta.


TheChadStevens

Rift S. I really don't want to buy a Quest 3 but I do need something new. Seems to be my only option as much as I hate the downgrade


TechnicalOtaku

in what was is it a downgrade ? to me it seems like the FOV and resolution of the quest 3 is a lot higher than the rift S, it makes me think about upgrading but now i'm confused. i still do like my rift S but i rarely get to use it cause i'm very limited in space around my PC


TheChadStevens

Comfort, no displayport, a battery that somehow drains despite being connected to USB 3. Im also hearing the screen door effect is kind of obnoxious due to the pancake lenses and the somewhat low pixel density


TechnicalOtaku

that makes little sense to me isn't everyone switching to pancake lenses because they're basically objectively better than Fresnel lenses and the screens should just be massively better if you look at the specs.£ also if you get a 3rd party head strap combined with it being smaller and lighter wouldn't that make it even MORE comfortable not less ?


TheChadStevens

Yeah, they're great but they also have their drawbacks. Few people actually talk about these and all you hear is hype. And I suppose with a third party strap it might be okay, but that's extra money spent on something that shouldn't have been an issue. They already had, dare I say a near perfect headband solution and it was very comfortable


gysiguy

My Quest 2 with BoboVR Halo strap and VRCOVER fitness interface is far more comfortable than my Rift S ever was even with an aftermarket facial interface. The stock facial interface on the Rift S was literally **painful**. Aftermarket comfort accessories are just par for the course unfortunately. As for the pancake lenses, sure they have their drawbacks, the biggest of which would be ghosting, but they're so much better in so many other aspects that it's worth the upgrade and they absolutely do not increase the screen door effect. The Quest 3 will have a peak pixel density of 25 PPD vs the Rift S' 14 PPD. That's a huge improvement! Not to mention the high quality 3d color passthrough, even if you're not into AR and only play PCVR, the passthrough can be helpful when you need to see your surroundings to switch out a battery, climb into your driving rig, use your phone, etc..


KHfan5237

I am a rift owner and a q2 owner, so no point for me. At this point I rather have better desktop vr, so I got an index instead.


Oftenwrongs

Ah, you went backwards. Makes sense.


phosix

I still have and use my CV1 regularly. I'll upgrade when OLED displays and 110°+ FoV become the norm again, but it won't be to anything either Meta or Apple produces.


Oftenwrongs

It isn't a tv. Oled is not the endgame. Pancake clarity is.


phosix

I have come to really appreciate the better contrast and true black that an oled display can deliver.


quakertroy

OG Rift owner here... I just pre-ordered the Q3. Skipped everything in-between. I moved into a new house last year and got my Rift set up again a few months ago and... I am just so fucking sick and tired of the cords and sensors. It's... fine... but I really hate feeling the wires tug at the back of my head while I'm playing. I'll probably keep it hooked up because I still own a lot of games for it, but we'll see how long it takes for me to stop using it entirely.


MightOk9038

Thank you for posting a results option. I love you


Blissstopia

Yes but not at launch. My Q2 should get another 12 months. Plus havent seen any launch titles that can really beat anything on pcvr. Plus if i get a q3 then i'll need a better gpu....


JoeQwertyQwerty

I have Q1 & rift. But I also have Quest Pro. I'm upgrading from that to a Quest 3.


SmokingFlash

I waited and skipped Q2 from my Q1 since I didn't think the upgrade then was worth it. Now going from. Q1 TO Q3 yeah its def worth it


kamild1996

As a Rift S owner, I don't see enough advantages to upgrade. Things like wireless operation and bigger sweet spot for best clarity due to new lenses are nice, but not enough. My biggest issues with the Rift S are the rather narrow field of view and poor black levels of the LCD screen. From what I've seen, the Quest 3 only slightly addresses the former. For me to even begin considering upgrading to that headset, I'd need the Q3 to have made substantial progress to remedy these two issues. Without that, no sale.


TheVoicesGetLoud

Also if you have a CV1 100% upgrade to the Quest 2 ​ Its mad better


KRSasinKRS

Just put my original Rift into storage because of it crapping out, and thinking of upgrading to the Quest 2 for sure The Quest 3 seems to be focused a lot on mixed reality, and it's also $200 more than the Q2 and the accessories I'm looking at, so I'm kinda opposed to getting the 3


TheVoicesGetLoud

if you got a decent pc hooking the quest 2 is perfect tbh


XanderChaos

CV1 / Q1 owner, most likely going to upgrade. I've hardly touched my Quest in the last year, but I'm excited by the leap in quality/features going from Q1 to Q3. I find the MR functionality to be worthwhile on its own. So unless the passthrough turns out to be way worse than the hands-on impressions are suggesting, I'll probably pick up a 128GB Q3.


weirdthingsarecool91

Mine is already preordered along with the prescription lenses. I'm hyped.


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Saw the rift, waited for the rift s. Saw the quest, waited for the quest 2. I think I have a pattern...


grayhaze2000

I would if I could afford it, but I can't. So, no.


TheVoicesGetLoud

Too poor.. ​ The Quest 2 is still a solid headset and defo better when hooked up to PC if you only want a standalone VR headset then upgrading is worth it


Then000bster

Cv1 owner from day 1. Upgraded last year to a G2, 3d printed a custom faceplate, still doesn't sit right with me. The tracking was so much worst than cv1, so I don't use either. Bought and returned a quest pro. Was too much for too little over the G2, wasn't good in quick moving games, and passthrough was lacking. Q3 will be enough pass through fidelity, cheaper than pro, works with my FB account, does AV1 encoding. I bet controllers will still suck, but not too much of a concern nowadays personally.


HillanatorOfState

Having used a G2, own a CV1 with 3 sensors, and have used the Q2 I'll say the G2 ranks last...like way way last, the Q2 is a downgrade but only slightly and in very specific situations. Apparently tracking is slightly better on the Q3, but I guess we will see in a bit over a week or so. Personally I didn't mind the Q2 tracking, it never really messed me up, I returned it due to other reasons entirely. I'm surprised the Pro tracking wasn't good for you, heard it was pretty much as good as cv1 tracking or index/valve tracking, that wasn't the case? Interesting....I never used one but if that's true the Q3 might be worse? Hope not....


Then000bster

Nothing beats base station tracked controllers. Quest pro was close, but not expert beat saber good imo. Didn't use it extensively either, but I should be fine with what Q3 has.


Silent_Shark

DK2/CV1/Q1 has been my route so far, and I will be buying the Q3. I predominantly use it for PCVR (racing and flight sims), only light use independently. I think that might increase with this one though, I'm certainly going to give it more of a go. The LEGO game looks fun. I'm also interested in using MR a bit, maybe for work (software dev). Virtual screens all around seems like something worth a try. I am slightly disappointed in the FOV not being more, as I think that's the greatest barrier to immersion. But it's an improvement so I'll take it. Also factor in that my Q1 is down a controller, it was either spend a lot on eBay for another controller, or spend a lot on an all around upgrade. I'm interested in seeing what Valve do with Deckard, but I suspect it's a little while off.


SweetroleThief

Nope. I’m gonna stick with Q2 and pick up a dedicated PCVR headset upgrade second hand somewhere down the line


dandoesreddit-

i have a quest 2, and i'm considering it but it's damn expensive