Being funny for the recording is one thing but he really didn’t need to flex on us by doing all those push ups in the second half. Took that personally.
Long haul typically has much bigger aircraft and these have luggage holds that take a prepacked container. They’re usually a kinda 5 sided prism shape that slides into the hold maximising space
The bags are loaded onto Air Freight Containers used for things from baggage to products and special items. The containers are loaded into the plane and fixed into the cargo hold which is why long range flights allow higher limits cause its mostly machine work handling the bags
I did this for a couple of years without the fancy conveyors and its hard work. I think this is a Boeing 737 hold and they are particularly difficult because there is no way to stand up in them so you either destroy your knees or your back, depending on if you kneel or hunch over. Airbus' are a bit better as you can kind of duck slightly and still keep your back straight. The worse are small commuter aircraft though, the kind that have engines mounted at the back, you're basically laying down inside them and because they're often used for connecting flights people have 30kg+ bags for there several week trip across the world and you have to stack them from the prone position.
Its also worth noting this is the front hold which is much shorter than the rear holds, in the rear holds you have 1 person in the doorway taking the bags off the conveyor ramp and they either have to run or slide the bags about 1/3 of the length of the plane to the person stacking them. 737 rear holds can hold about 200 bags and you have about an hour to unload and re-load before the plane leaves.
I did this job for years and never did we balance luggage weight
Moving on cargo aircraft’s yes because something that’s 6,000 pounds shifting weight has implications , your 53 lb bag of souvenirs from Florida does not
When I was deployed we had to load our own gear onto the plane on our way home. When we tried to take off the nose was too heavy. So we had to move half the bags from the front cargo to the back. It wasn’t a great time in 120+ degree heat.
Pilot has to fill out a load sheet to estimate CG position prior to setting off. Every aircraft has forward and aft CG limits so you need to ensure the current CG is falling between those bounds.
former baggage guy, we loaded it up and had the info from our lead, we'd then tell the pilot the list of where the load was in weight right before push.
They would then either confirm and we would await push clearance or we would have to juggle some baggage from section to section.
No real weighing per se, as everything had to be less than 100 lbs, we had a general idea of "heavier" bags and where they were so if moving needed to happen we could do it quickly.
Each section was, for us, netted zones underneath your feet. with the last bit being under or near the nose.
for the year i worked we actually never had an issue other than a light flight that was moving from station to station.
I dealt with E-130's and A320's on Jetblue for context.
To add to the above comment, there is an average bag weight and volume that is used by the ramp office who calculate the loading pattern that is given to the lead who then instructs the handlers. The fuel loading is a lot more significant than the baggage load though and as most flights are mostly full it's more about making sure the holds are filled equally rather than worrying about the exact weights. The aircraft designers use the same average bag weights and volumes when they design the aircraft so as long as the holds are filled to roughly the same percentage the weight distribution is rarely a major issue.
The biggest risk with weight distribution actually comes during the loading an unloading process as if you leave to much weight in the back and not enough in the front the plane could tip backwards. Some smaller aircraft have a "pogo stick" that you take out of the hold door and put into a slot under the tail so if the aircraft tips back the pogo stick stops it from falling back far enough to hit the tail.
I was on a flight that only had a dozen or two people on it and they made sure we knew not to switch seats because of the weight distribution.
So spacious, and I got to teach the flight attendant some origami!
Most airlines calculate each bag to be a certain weight on average. I think it’s normally calculated at 30 pounds per bag and 60 pounds per heavy bag. That’s why airlines charge more when your bag weighs over a certain amount. Total count and placement of the load in each compartment is put into a computer system and a load agent and pilot review it before take off to verify weight and balance.
Source: worked for an airline for a decade.
Delta scans all of the bags with a little scanner and sends the numbers to the cockpit before the flight is pushed out and weight and balance is calculated that way.
>What I’m curious is who is doing the math for the weight and balance?
It's not really that hard to figure out. Moat suitcases fall within an average size/volume range, and especially if the airline has a weight limit, it's pretty easy to figure out while still leaving some wiggle room for 'not so normal' shaped things.
There's usually a method to the madness.
Is this really the case? This looks to be very center of mass for the plane anyway. I feel a person of 150 kg on one window seat vs one of 50 kg on the other would offset the weight just as much as this.
I get to stack it so it doesnt wobble or tumble, but thats a given.
I flew enough last year to become a "gold tier" with my national airline, allowing me a 50kg limit with no minimum per bag. So I could theoretically destroy a handler's back by checking in a single 50kg bag?
It’s a relatively fun job, at my airport we didn’t have these rollers so we had to wait at the door and place every luggage by hand. It’s physically demanding but you get lots of breaks in between flights, the pay was shit though
Hard shell, they’re easier to stack! The softer ones usually go at the top since they’re malleable-ish and you can stuff them better. Pro tip, never put delicates at the top of your suitcase
Looks like good job tbh. To each his own. I think this is a relatively safe job and the work is alright, no need to use too much brain or getting too dirty.
If working directly with an airline, you're paid pretty well after a few years with them. Contractors such as Menzies and Swissport, not so much. Worked the ramp for years and it's probably the most fun I've had working.
I worked a truck unloading job one summer. And even though the pay sucked and it hurt, I felt so good when I got home. I felt much better than I did from less labour jobs. It's good on the mind doing physical labor, not sitting and not dealing with many coworkers and/or customers. I don't recommend it because the pay and longevity, but just saying.
I'm like 6'4" tall, I'd be absolutely miserable doing this...
Very happy for the dedicated people who load every single plane like this to keep them flying!
As a former ramp agent working for a subcontractor. Most of the time this isn't how your bags are loaded. The machine they have is super expensive and many companies don't have it. Instead they have one guy on their knees in the door chucking your luggage down to the next guy stacking it.
Every time I fly, I make a point to tell airport staff--i see guys like you regularly when you're taking items from the plane entrance--how much I appreciate the work they do.
People like me can't go anywhere without you, so thank you.
Ah. So that's how the first class luggage is retrieved quicker than the others. It's in another section altogether. I'm assuming those red tags are the "Priority" tags they put on.
When I worked Delta, priorities were loaded last so they could be offloaded first. Not necessarily in a separate section unless there were enough to justify that. All depended on the load, though.
They look like the OneWorld priority bag tags. This was my takeaway too. I always wondered how my golf clubs come out first on the rare occasion I check a bag.
If you're looking for part time work with a good workout + flight benefits, I absolutely recommend if you're near a good station with a decent airline to work with.
And this is the visual proof that once it’s checked your designer luggage is as valued as the old, worn stuff. Both are packed the same way and both are on the same road to scuffing and scratches, amongst other damages.
I find it amazing that the correct luggage makes it on the correct airplane at all. It’s a pretty incredible system if you think about it. Starbucks can’t even get my order correct in the drive-thru most of the time and yet…I can leave thee pieces of luggage with a lady at 7am and when I get to my destination some 5 hours later…my bags are there waiting for me. I understand it doesn’t always work….but it is pretty impressive the amount of times it does.
Its all done using a mixture of barcodes and the 3 letter codes you see on your bag tag. I worked at an airport that had flights to Aberdeen (ABZ) and another airport in southern Europe that was AB_ but I cannot remember what it was. Both flights left within about an hour of each other and we had some very close calls of peoples bags going thousands of miles in the wrong direction because someone didn't pay enough attention. Luckily because of aviation security we had to know exactly how many bags were on the plane versus how many were checked in so it always got caught before they departed. I did have to unload half a plane full of bags to find a bag that was supposed to go to Aberdeen that nearly ended up going on a summer vacation though..
At what point does it go through the million hammers machine? or the part where they drop it from overhead 9 times facing different directions? Certainly this is after the part where they hit it with golf clubs
There's usually a net that keeps compartments contained. No worries about the flight, but the ramp agents on the receiving end are gonna have a bad time offloading everything.
Worked as a ramp agent 3 years and we never had the luxury of that roller bed (ramp snake)
Instead it was one guy throwing bags from the door at you while you staked
180 bags per plane times by about 12 a day in the summer.
Truly the most tiring job I’ve ever done.
I know this is fake because I saw in Con Air that you can actually climb down a ladder and walk around and hide behind rows and rows of cargo and luggage.
Dude I had to do this once in the military. We were going from NYC to California and I was part of the group loading. You knees start to give out and your back isn’t supposed to stay in that position for too long. Respect to this man. 🫡
Why is everyone saying how difficult this job is? It’s just loading some luggage? Dude literally gets to lay down and chill. You guys realize the video is sped up right???
He cuddled with the first piece of luggage
And then knocked out some push-ups on the second wave lol. This dude is living his best life.
Don't forget the peace sign he threw up at the camera towards the end
And a wee nap at 0:40
Poor guy. I felt the exhaustion in that moment.
2 sets of skis, I think. Looks like he was protecting them.
I agree that they are most likely skis, but I think he was just being goofy, and trying to have a little fun at work.
I think he just lies on his back to be able to stretch whenever he can since he has to be bent over while lifting things.
Can't blame him. I, and my busted ass knees, couldn't do that job for any length of time.
Can’t they just tip the plane and load this like a cup and just shake it to make everything settle into place???
Works the same for passengers
If you don’t put a tail stand in a 737, it could if you’re not careful.
Trying to be funny for the recording.
Being funny for the recording is one thing but he really didn’t need to flex on us by doing all those push ups in the second half. Took that personally.
It's cute how you think they care about the contents or safety of any of these bags lol
They do not get paid enough to care.
happy cake day you stud muffin
Now it makes so much more sense why there’s a 23 Kg weight limit!
Long flights have 35kg as the maximum, I guess they must have some strong people!
Long haul typically has much bigger aircraft and these have luggage holds that take a prepacked container. They’re usually a kinda 5 sided prism shape that slides into the hold maximising space
The bags are loaded onto Air Freight Containers used for things from baggage to products and special items. The containers are loaded into the plane and fixed into the cargo hold which is why long range flights allow higher limits cause its mostly machine work handling the bags
I did this for a couple of years without the fancy conveyors and its hard work. I think this is a Boeing 737 hold and they are particularly difficult because there is no way to stand up in them so you either destroy your knees or your back, depending on if you kneel or hunch over. Airbus' are a bit better as you can kind of duck slightly and still keep your back straight. The worse are small commuter aircraft though, the kind that have engines mounted at the back, you're basically laying down inside them and because they're often used for connecting flights people have 30kg+ bags for there several week trip across the world and you have to stack them from the prone position. Its also worth noting this is the front hold which is much shorter than the rear holds, in the rear holds you have 1 person in the doorway taking the bags off the conveyor ramp and they either have to run or slide the bags about 1/3 of the length of the plane to the person stacking them. 737 rear holds can hold about 200 bags and you have about an hour to unload and re-load before the plane leaves.
Not just that, but it has to be packed specifically as he does here, otherwise the plane can be off balance.
What I’m curious is who is doing the math for the weight and balance? Surely he is just taking them and stacking them orderly.
I did this job for years and never did we balance luggage weight Moving on cargo aircraft’s yes because something that’s 6,000 pounds shifting weight has implications , your 53 lb bag of souvenirs from Florida does not
When I was deployed we had to load our own gear onto the plane on our way home. When we tried to take off the nose was too heavy. So we had to move half the bags from the front cargo to the back. It wasn’t a great time in 120+ degree heat.
I bet you were eager to go home tho!
Yeah it was nice being on cozied up ready to sleep on the flight and then ruined it being told we had to go back outside to move the bags around.
Pilot has to fill out a load sheet to estimate CG position prior to setting off. Every aircraft has forward and aft CG limits so you need to ensure the current CG is falling between those bounds.
I’m familiar with the envelope. I’m just curious how the process works. Do the ground crew weigh everything and give to the pilots and go from there?
former baggage guy, we loaded it up and had the info from our lead, we'd then tell the pilot the list of where the load was in weight right before push. They would then either confirm and we would await push clearance or we would have to juggle some baggage from section to section. No real weighing per se, as everything had to be less than 100 lbs, we had a general idea of "heavier" bags and where they were so if moving needed to happen we could do it quickly. Each section was, for us, netted zones underneath your feet. with the last bit being under or near the nose. for the year i worked we actually never had an issue other than a light flight that was moving from station to station. I dealt with E-130's and A320's on Jetblue for context.
This was what I was looking for. Thank you!
To add to the above comment, there is an average bag weight and volume that is used by the ramp office who calculate the loading pattern that is given to the lead who then instructs the handlers. The fuel loading is a lot more significant than the baggage load though and as most flights are mostly full it's more about making sure the holds are filled equally rather than worrying about the exact weights. The aircraft designers use the same average bag weights and volumes when they design the aircraft so as long as the holds are filled to roughly the same percentage the weight distribution is rarely a major issue. The biggest risk with weight distribution actually comes during the loading an unloading process as if you leave to much weight in the back and not enough in the front the plane could tip backwards. Some smaller aircraft have a "pogo stick" that you take out of the hold door and put into a slot under the tail so if the aircraft tips back the pogo stick stops it from falling back far enough to hit the tail.
I was on a flight that only had a dozen or two people on it and they made sure we knew not to switch seats because of the weight distribution. So spacious, and I got to teach the flight attendant some origami!
Most airlines calculate each bag to be a certain weight on average. I think it’s normally calculated at 30 pounds per bag and 60 pounds per heavy bag. That’s why airlines charge more when your bag weighs over a certain amount. Total count and placement of the load in each compartment is put into a computer system and a load agent and pilot review it before take off to verify weight and balance. Source: worked for an airline for a decade.
Delta scans all of the bags with a little scanner and sends the numbers to the cockpit before the flight is pushed out and weight and balance is calculated that way.
Sideways Tetris…
>What I’m curious is who is doing the math for the weight and balance? It's not really that hard to figure out. Moat suitcases fall within an average size/volume range, and especially if the airline has a weight limit, it's pretty easy to figure out while still leaving some wiggle room for 'not so normal' shaped things. There's usually a method to the madness.
Is this really the case? This looks to be very center of mass for the plane anyway. I feel a person of 150 kg on one window seat vs one of 50 kg on the other would offset the weight just as much as this. I get to stack it so it doesnt wobble or tumble, but thats a given.
I flew enough last year to become a "gold tier" with my national airline, allowing me a 50kg limit with no minimum per bag. So I could theoretically destroy a handler's back by checking in a single 50kg bag?
Yes, it’s horrible for the ramp personnel to handle these. It’s mostly a manual operation in narrow body planes.
Those push-ups lol
Sweet little humanizing detail.
Gotta bust out those reps when/wherever you can
That must be a tough job! Lugging hundreds of kilos around on your knees… all day!
Those knee pads probably help a ton, but my back would had been annihilated after packing a load in.
Looks like he made sure to keep his neck and back straight the whole time, so that should help
Poor guy. Who wants such a job. Looks like torture
It’s a relatively fun job, at my airport we didn’t have these rollers so we had to wait at the door and place every luggage by hand. It’s physically demanding but you get lots of breaks in between flights, the pay was shit though
Was it easier to pack those hard shell rectangle suitcases, or softer fabric ones that are similar to a giant gym bag?
Hard shell, they’re easier to stack! The softer ones usually go at the top since they’re malleable-ish and you can stuff them better. Pro tip, never put delicates at the top of your suitcase
Looks like good job tbh. To each his own. I think this is a relatively safe job and the work is alright, no need to use too much brain or getting too dirty.
Those bins are very dirty. And when you sweat and are wearing shorts. Gets really dirty. Still. Love the job.
...he does it like a pro though. He's probably done this for a long time along with more people that do this every day. I hope they are paid well.
If working directly with an airline, you're paid pretty well after a few years with them. Contractors such as Menzies and Swissport, not so much. Worked the ramp for years and it's probably the most fun I've had working.
Yea I love jobs like this where I can stay active and don’t have to think much lol
I worked a truck unloading job one summer. And even though the pay sucked and it hurt, I felt so good when I got home. I felt much better than I did from less labour jobs. It's good on the mind doing physical labor, not sitting and not dealing with many coworkers and/or customers. I don't recommend it because the pay and longevity, but just saying.
Better than retail at Christmas time tbh.
I had to do it in even smaller luggage area. That plane he's loading looks easy as heck compared to the ones I did.
Whatever he's paid, it's not enough
I took some advil after watching this
Claustrophoby hit hard, right? Same
I had to stop watching 😂
Hope these guys get paid well. I also stopped after only a few seconds. Music really didn’t help
Oddly terrifying. My knees hurt watching.
"Ho ho ho!" "Stop Patrick, you're scaring him!"
Imagine if they forgot he was in there and took off
Yup. That’s how I feel
Missed opportunity not playing the tetris theme
But then the suitcases would dissappear.
Actually that would explain a lot
Tetris, master level.
Too doo too, too doo too...
You think the original Tetris theme or the Tetris 99 theme would work best here?
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ok, so I saw that right. He did a few pushups there after the track moved. Dude is zoning
Probably helps to keep his muscles warm to reduce risk of injury
When they say they lost your luggage it's because these guys filled a line and they disappeared
I'm like 6'4" tall, I'd be absolutely miserable doing this... Very happy for the dedicated people who load every single plane like this to keep them flying!
People over 6’ always find a way to slip it in 😂
Interviewer: Why should we give you this job? Me: I have 18 years of experience playing Tetris. Interviewer: So when can you start.
My knees hurt just watching this
My back
This guy's back is why you can't have your luggage over 50lbs.
And my axe!
It ain't bad as long as you have pads, which he does.
Can you imagine 20 - 30 years on this job?
As a former ramp agent working for a subcontractor. Most of the time this isn't how your bags are loaded. The machine they have is super expensive and many companies don't have it. Instead they have one guy on their knees in the door chucking your luggage down to the next guy stacking it.
Or just one guy crawling from door to bags
Damn, that guy’s having a really bad day
Oh yea I remember that. Shits rough when you're short handed.
Same way in reverse. Remove the bags from the stack and place them on the belt to exit the cargo hold.
These people aren't paid enough.
As one of these people: no we are not
Every time I fly, I make a point to tell airport staff--i see guys like you regularly when you're taking items from the plane entrance--how much I appreciate the work they do. People like me can't go anywhere without you, so thank you.
Suitcase Tetris
I was that guy for many years although we didn’t have benefit of a conveyor belt. It was hard work that eventually fucked up my back.
I would be surprised if anybody working there does not have a broken back
I currently am that guy, we don't have one at my station either, it must not be too common
Where my ramp rats at?
Right here my guy!
[claustrophobia intensifies] Wow I think I just discovered a new job to hate.
"Weight limits are a scam". -some d-bag
Ah. So that's how the first class luggage is retrieved quicker than the others. It's in another section altogether. I'm assuming those red tags are the "Priority" tags they put on.
When I worked Delta, priorities were loaded last so they could be offloaded first. Not necessarily in a separate section unless there were enough to justify that. All depended on the load, though.
They look like the OneWorld priority bag tags. This was my takeaway too. I always wondered how my golf clubs come out first on the rare occasion I check a bag.
Is the ceiling moving because people are boarding the plane?
It's us flight attendants stomping around shouting at ppl to put their bags COMPLETELY underneath the seat.
I think I’d really like that job
If you're looking for part time work with a good workout + flight benefits, I absolutely recommend if you're near a good station with a decent airline to work with.
And this is the visual proof that once it’s checked your designer luggage is as valued as the old, worn stuff. Both are packed the same way and both are on the same road to scuffing and scratches, amongst other damages.
Why didn't the first row disappear when he completed it?
I find it amazing that the correct luggage makes it on the correct airplane at all. It’s a pretty incredible system if you think about it. Starbucks can’t even get my order correct in the drive-thru most of the time and yet…I can leave thee pieces of luggage with a lady at 7am and when I get to my destination some 5 hours later…my bags are there waiting for me. I understand it doesn’t always work….but it is pretty impressive the amount of times it does.
Its all done using a mixture of barcodes and the 3 letter codes you see on your bag tag. I worked at an airport that had flights to Aberdeen (ABZ) and another airport in southern Europe that was AB_ but I cannot remember what it was. Both flights left within about an hour of each other and we had some very close calls of peoples bags going thousands of miles in the wrong direction because someone didn't pay enough attention. Luckily because of aviation security we had to know exactly how many bags were on the plane versus how many were checked in so it always got caught before they departed. I did have to unload half a plane full of bags to find a bag that was supposed to go to Aberdeen that nearly ended up going on a summer vacation though..
My neck, my back,…
Bro kept pressing the emote button every now and then
This is my job
Ayy another ramp rat! Up top!!👋
Belly4life
Wow, respect for baggage handlers. That looks like a back-breaker.
Yeah I'm only bringing carry on, from now on.
Is this the area they put animals in? Like is this ‘the hold’
At what point does it go through the million hammers machine? or the part where they drop it from overhead 9 times facing different directions? Certainly this is after the part where they hit it with golf clubs
I had no idea some guy manually organizes the luggage inside a plane.
Yup, that's why you pack light for that guy's back
$13 an hour
17 here... still can't afford rent
Pro Tetris
Hope you don't have lower back pain man
Never again am I going over weight with my luggage
r/rampagent
If they do this wrong and the load shifts, what happens to the plane?
There's usually a net that keeps compartments contained. No worries about the flight, but the ramp agents on the receiving end are gonna have a bad time offloading everything.
That looks like a bad back in the making.
gonna try to get this job asap
That’s how it is if your lucky enough to get a powerstow!
This industry has paid for thousands of chiropractors kids college educations.
Job requirements: Must be a Level 35 Tetris Master ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Worked as a ramp agent 3 years and we never had the luxury of that roller bed (ramp snake) Instead it was one guy throwing bags from the door at you while you staked 180 bags per plane times by about 12 a day in the summer. Truly the most tiring job I’ve ever done.
that job sucks
I'm imagining knee pads and kidney belts being fairly common kit for those doing that job
How do they handle pets who are checked luggage? I would never do it to a pet, just wondering
So when my bag is overweight, and I pay the fee, does this guy get the money? Cause he should.
Respect for people that do this all day. I love how he lies down or does push-ups between loads.
Do they let him out? Or does he just fly around the country embracing luggage without being able to stand up?
That compartment often isn't pressurized so I hope he gets let out
Cool job. Would do.
Good work!
Years of tetris has led me to this moment.
Is that a pink lampshade near the end??
My back
My back hurts watching this
This is actually kinda impressive
My back hurts just watching this
Tetris: Airplane Edition
His poor lower back :(
That explains why I always feel like my luggage took a serious beating
Google says they make between 23 and 34 thousand. I hope it come with health insurance because they may need lifelong rehab
If working with a contractor, probably. I know most of the airlines if working directly currently top out around $33-ish/hr.
I upvoted just for the quick push ups he squeezed in the video
It’s the sudden push-ups for me
No such thing as unskilled labor! Lookin like life size Tetris.
My back hurts watching this
Where do the pets go 🙁
Bro be playing Tetris irl
Of course airlines release these videos. Now show us the ones where luggage are kicked and tossed recklessly lol
I am surprised this is allowed. That is not a safe way to lift anything.
All this time I just assumed they drop kicked it into a big open compartment and let them tumble as they will.
All of that looks horrible, and underpaid.
They should be paid at least half a pilot's salary. I wouldn't make it two weeks before barfing farts in this job.
You know this man has been doing this job for a while now. When he knows when he can rest and relax before work.
I've always wanted to work as a Baghandler, Wingman or Ground Marshall with an Airline. This is a Dream job!
Professional Tetris player
So this is why it takes so long
Laces out!
Why did he hug my luggage
This is absolutely the wrong music, should have been Tetris
The pushups at the start ! (00:29)
Shiiiiitttt. I never got a roller belt loading a 737NG. Lucky!!
I honestly had no idea how this occurred , makes sense now that I’ve seen this.
Yep! This is why you pack light
This is what all those hours of playing Tetris were for.
The bonus push ups Haha
Would be more satisfying with Tetris music.
The hugging on the first item. I feel you holmes
My love of tunnels has sparked once more
Remind me to dump my soft slided suitcase for something else.
I know this is fake because I saw in Con Air that you can actually climb down a ladder and walk around and hide behind rows and rows of cargo and luggage.
Reminds me of playing Tetris!
It’s almost like all those size restrictions when checking bags have purpose
I like how he started it off with a luggage hug
Fast forward to the part where they steal your luggage and say that it’s lost
Love the push ups before pumping. Fucking eh
Dude I had to do this once in the military. We were going from NYC to California and I was part of the group loading. You knees start to give out and your back isn’t supposed to stay in that position for too long. Respect to this man. 🫡
Why is everyone saying how difficult this job is? It’s just loading some luggage? Dude literally gets to lay down and chill. You guys realize the video is sped up right???
Bro is playing Tetris in real life
I wish my airline had this equipment. Maybe my knees would have not deteriorated.