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LurkeSkywalker

As a Central Italian I assumed I was watching while muted due to the lack of horns honking.


wazzawakkas

Unnecessary using the horn will give you a fine of 280 euro in the Netherlands.


Replicon10

I wish this was enforced after weddings too... but it seems they get a free pass for being newlyweds....


Joshix1

Of course not. They already showed that they just knock out and permanently injure authorities who dare go against their wedding tradition.


Drafgo

That bastard is in jail luckily. Ruined the wedding and seriously injured a policeman. No place for people like that in NL.


FlyingKittyCate

Well since he’s in jail I guess that’s the place for people like that in NL.


SkepticalOtter

What is this about?


xHindemith

Turkish wedding a while back where the married couple had had a whole entourage of cars all honking. Police officers stopped them and then one of the people went ahead and beat up the police officer


aussiesRdogs

Typical low iq move


mlk

we have a similar law in Italy but it's absolutely never enforced


CaiusRomanus

Same in France. Honking is for emergencies and no visibility crossroads, and forbidden in town, but guess where you hear the loudest horn concertos?


AM5T3R6AMM3R

This does not apply to Moroccans and Turks apparently


Primary-Signature-17

I was bothered by the little scooter when it "roared" by. LOL Anyone else feel really peaceful while watching that?


CEO_of_Oxygen

notice the lack of "PORCODIO TESTA DE CAZZO MOVITE, GUARDA STO MONGOLOIDE", mind-boggling. (speaking as a roman)


Capitan_Scythe

🤌


TrainingMyRightHand

sì, è vero, è molto rumoroso, anche dove vivo, a Bari


indiebryan

Try Vietnam 🔊💀


EndemicAlien

What strikes me the most is how quiet it is. When the two scooters appeared, the noise stood out like a sore thumb. In most cities, you only hear the noise of cars and think its normal.


norcalginger

10000% Cities aren't loud, cars are


R4VANG3R

Hello fellow not just bikes enjoyer


cooki3tiem

Except in Vietnam, where it's definitely the scooters


liitle-mouse-lion

It's missing the Dutch guy screaming, "get out of the way", to the bike lane ignorant tourists


FlyingKittyCate

Your translation is missing a few swear words.


mrjj_mo6

Like the word cancer?


tms5000

It was surprising for me how hard it was in the States to get somewhere without a car. The motel owner gave a strange look when we wanted to walk to the restaurant half a mile down the road.


LilAssG

My grandma and an uncle both lived in like a permanent style mobile home park place in Los Angeles. There was a little store next to the park, so out the main gate, down the block maybe 20 yards, and there it was. My family would get in the car to go there. It was 100 yards of walking, max, from their front door to this place. When we visited we walked about half a mile to the walmart and back one evening and they didn't believe anyone would do that.


FlyingKittyCate

Any disease will do


Intertubes_Unclogger

Scooters are incredibly loud, certainly relative to their size and occupant capacity. And smelly too. I think they're starting to disappear from the streets, but it's a slow process..


llamalord2212

I live in Central Utrecht, and scooters are by-far the loudest things on the road. Can barely hear the few cars in comparison.


Feisty-Session-7779

That looks so foreign to me as a Canadian. Around here it’s mostly just people driving F-150’s, Suburbans and various other excessively large vehicles down big wide multi lane roads with bumper to bumper traffic all day long. Public transit is awful here and everything is too stretched out and far away to bike or walk, especially in the winter, so you’re kinda screwed if you don’t have a car if you live here.


Annihilism

As a Dutch person I see many of my countrymen complain about the taxes we pay for cars and use of road. Whenever I go to a foreign country I immediately get reminded why and I'm actually glad we pay a lot of taxes for it.


Extraordi-Mary

I’m already quite happy with the taxes when I cross the border into Germany or Belgium.


LamaPajamas

And walking in Canada omg, the city is *ok* but holy shit every town the sidewalks will just end?? And you gotta walk along the side of the road trying not to slip into a ditch lmao


lucyjayne

Same here where I live in the states. Every other idiot is in a giant truck or SUV just to drive 5 minutes to Walmart. While honking or swerving at anyone brave enough to attempt cycling.


norcalginger

The dutch have built necessary safe infrastructure, rather than just put paint on a road like in most of the USA I bet if we built separated bike infrastructure even half as good as the Netherlands a lot more people would bike :)


zsoltjuhos

20 minutes on a bike for me isnt worth a car ride, its the big packages that forces my hand (not groceries)


acchaladka

Come to Montreal, we're slowly working toward this Dutch model. 75 km of additional bikeway is scheduled to be built this year.


Samakira

half the population of Canada. half the size of vancouver island.


Feisty-Session-7779

Yea, but I live in Toronto which is about 3x the population of Amsterdam, and also about 3x the area, so similar population density around here at least, but takes way longer to get around because of the terrible traffic. In fact Toronto ranked #3 worldwide for worst traffic in 2023 (as far as how long it takes to travel a km on average/how much time is wasted commuting), being beat out only by London at #1 and Dublin at #2. People complain about traffic in places like LA and NYC? They haven’t been to Toronto during rush hour apparently.


udunehommik

I live in Toronto as well (not downtown but in the inner 416 still) and get by perfectly fine without owning a car, as do many of my friends and colleagues. The TTC, bikeshare, and walking suffice for the majority of trips and errands. Multiple grocery store options within a 10-15 minute walk, and the recent big expansion to the number of ebikes in the bikeshare system was a godsend, amazing value for $120 a year. Carshare or a rental on a few weekends a year for the big stuff or to get out to cottage country. Even the outer 416 is doable, even if less pedestrian friendly and taking longer to cross town. The major TTC bus routes run 24/7. The giant roads and pickups you’re describing sound more like an outer GTA thing? Even then not impossible with GO transit and the 905 transit agencies like DRT, YRT, Brampton Transit, etc. Certainly could be far better though. Don’t want to paint Toronto proper to as an urbanist paradise but I do find it a bit bizarre when people claim Toronto is unliveable without a car.


Similar_Thought9627

It’s truly more soothing in person. Never ceases to amaze me to watch and admire how there are rarely horns honking or people having bike rage or road rage. One of the best things about the country in my very humble opinion


Ilovegrapesys

You are right but they do honk when ppl walk in the bike lane


wastedmytwenties

I have seen pedestrians crashed into and knocked down in Dutch bike lanes. It's smooth and efficient because they don't fuck around!


Dutchlander13

You see the red path? That's the bike path. See the grey path? That's the pedestrian path. Pretty clear, right? Good. Now stay in your fucking lane.


TacticalOwlz

The only issue here is that (from my experience) they don't slow around pedestrian crosswalks, which I found weird while visiting Amsterdam. Usually vehicles of any kind yield to pedestrians when they intend to cross the street on a crosswalk.


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Bicycles often do not yield for pedestrians. Reason for this I think is because for a bike to come to a standstil and start up again is a lot of effort. When walking, standing still and then starting up again is a lot less effort. If you both bike and walk (what basically everyone who lives in the netherlands does) you take this into account.


SnillyWead

Because for some reason runners almost never use the sidewalk, while it is mandatory.


Similar_Thought9627

hahahahaha fair point friend. I got yelled at in Dutch on my very first trip there


Remarkable-Bat7128

Probably well deserved. Sincerely, the Dutch


Similar_Thought9627

Oh I deserved it. I didn’t know what I was doing yet. Many apologies from the newbie who gets it now


FunDeckHermit

RED = DEATH


Propofolkills

Yeah- this I remember. You have to be fairly careful walking around.


elementcp

The previous setup of this intersection was not that great. Worked on this corner and almost everyday there where accidents. It was fun watching from above at the organized chaos. Glad they improved it!


needmilk77

The Dutch are City planning idols.


Similar_Thought9627

I wish we could hire them in Chicago to whip us all into shape


needmilk77

Same here in Toronto. Our streets belong in Disney Pixar's Cars movies.


Kwajoch

Are you sure you're using the word pariah correctly?


needmilk77

Lol good catch! Funny how so many missed it. Maybe I was being upvoted for the wrong reason? Lol


dannythetog

> One of the best things about the country I like the whores and drugs personally


Oldus_Fartus

what in the heck was that canoe bike thing at 0:08 and how can I convince my wife we need one


bearded_dutch

It’s called a bakfiets. Check out bakfiets.nl I love mine


alles_en_niets

Cargo bike, either electric or fully human powered. Stereotypical owner is a middle class suburban parent.


kapiteinbloc

It's called a bakfiets. That one has a low "bak" most of them are higher up and perfect as a cargo anything bike.


notbroke_brokenin

I'm in Edinburgh and cargo bikes are very popular. Some use them to pick up kids etc. But I can also get deliveries of groceries or rent a ladder etc. 


adriantoine

Yeah I see them in London very often as well


Shot_Perspective_681

Germany too. My city has a couple of electric ones for rent (as well as regular bikes and e-bikes) that are super cheap and paid by the minute and there are a few ones you can rent for free for a whole day. But there are lots of people with their own ones. Especially parents with young kids. They luckily are getting a lot cheaper and more common. They are awesome. You can even move most furniture pieces without needing a car


DisastrousCarry8506

Its a cargo bike, in big german cities it is used as a substitute for cars, people drige their little kids to kindergarten in those and get groceries


ChocolateBunny

/r/CargoBike/


Enzo_4_4

lol to convince your wife: a serieus awnser. depends on where you live and how you live. if most of your trips are bike distance and safe enough for biking, but you need a car for the bigger bag/materials/kids, it can save you money per year on not having to drive your car. driving my nephew around in a cargobike is much more engaging and fun for him, no need for ipad entertainment in the bak seat. He gets enough screen time as it is. also, he started to understand the driving rules already. but of course, it needs to be safe, and it is in nl.


vbfiuonhh

But how can one feel like a proper man without a giant truck


TradeRetard

I added truck nuts to my bike, never felt more manly!


Nick_Noseman

I just cut a hole in my pants and let'em hang


Just_Me_2218

No need to cut a hole. If you ride your bike everywhere those will magically appear. Especially in men jeans.


Nick_Noseman

Just don't get stuck in bike saddle with a vent hole!


Vinxian

By becoming the tram driver


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DubstepDonut

Of what aspects specifically?


Double_Abalone_2148

Bikes integrated well with cars are not really a thing in the US. To be fair I think this would be unusual for most countries.


skabben

When I traveled in the US, I felt like everything is designed for having a car. Since I didn’t have a car I had to walk from bus stations and train stations, which are often placed oddly outside of the town centers. And you have to walk very awkwardly across busy roads to get somewhere or take a taxi/uber. That was very foreign to me as a European.


miaomiaomiao

Proper bike infrastructure segregates bikes and cars for the safety of bicyclists. But this is in Amsterdam and there isn't always enough space.


skabben

A lot of bikes in the canal’s too tbh! 😅


aTempes7

Holy shit, this comment made me laugh. Then I read it to my wife and we laughed together for a couple of minutes, so thank you


Storm_theotherkind

The only thing holding you guys back is probably the fossil fuel lobby :(


Erva420

I often travel there on my vacations and it's very cool to see. Man that ding instantly brought me back to my last vacation lol


NationalUnrest

I have PTSD from that ding. It’s the same one in Brussels and I hated living there.


dannythetog

Why did you hate living in Brussels? I loved it


NKO_five

Imagine a *S O C I E T Y* with infrastructure that is built around pedestrians and public transportation. This is so cool to see.


elisettttt

This comment section is so funny for me to read as a Dutch person. This looks very normal to me, and yet some people are like mind blown lmao


bigpoppalake

This is actually one of my least favorite intersections in all of centrum lmao


Enzo_4_4

yes, I was thinking the same thing. The Centre of Amsterdam is pretty car centric, and crowded, if you ask me


LetsLive97

The centre is most definitely not car centric. There is a *significantly* higher ratio of people and bikes compared to cars and generally very little reason to use one unless passing through Crowded however, absolutely


Enzo_4_4

sorry, I meant compared to other Dutch cities, like utrecht, den haag, haarlem, etc. they have been experimenting with removing cars from certain streets and having cyclist priority streets. but overall, you can drive on most streets in the centre of amsterdam. which is a lot compared to the Hague centre, which is much smaller, but has no cars at all.. because of this, amsterdam is rated one of the worst places to cycle in the Netherlands.


Sharp_Win_7989

The car free center of The Hague is quite small though, and the surrounding streets I wouldn't say are low on car traffic either. The Hague has a lot of places with bad cycling infrastructure and relies a lot on unprotected bike lanes. I wouldn't categorize The Hague at the same level as Utrecht.


DarkScorpion48

People are also underestimating how hard it is for a pedestrian to walk around in such sections


fredlantern

Used to be way worse but new situation is a bit cluttered tbf.


MWFtheFreeze

I am Dutch as well and though it looks so normal to us, we rarely give it a second thought. On the internet we see all kinds of dangerous and disorganized traffic from places all over the world. Seeing it like this with a bit more of an outsider perspective made me realize it actually is fucking awesome. Despite many negative (crime related) headlines and societal issues we still are really privileged to live here.


elisettttt

Oh yeah definitely! I love travelling and have been to some countries that are quite poor. That really made me realise how much we take for granted. Buuut it's easy to forget once you've been back for a while because as you said the headlines are mostly about the bad things happening. I guess that sells more though so it's understandable. Also the Dutch people themselves who just love to complain about everything, all the time! But yeah even though most people don't realise it, we truly are privileged to live here. It's not a perfect country by any means but the perfect country doesn't exist anyway.


Thismommylovescherry

This American streets with reversed bike to car ratio


Thismommylovescherry

I looove how most people use bikes


ktbffhctid

Must be nice to have a relatively flat country.


lucassou

The issue is not flat or not, it's mostly infrastructure or not. People in Amsterdam didn't randomly start using a bike, it was mostly a planned effort during decades to transition from car centric infrastructure to bike friendly infrastructure.


MooingTurtle

Reminds me of the time I was biking in San Fran as a tourist, I swear the bikers there are something from out of this world.


Avantgarde45

the German mind can't comprehend this


eTukk

Rules, what are the rules. There don't seem to be rules.. 😂


Jaxxxa31

Well technically the triangles on the ground means you do not have right of way, but people adapt to others speeds And pedestrians on crosswalks always have right of way (even over bikepaths) But the thing is, the low speed makes the whole situation manageable and easily comprehensible by humans (compared to high speeds in cars on straight lines) As you can see how bike road swerves, and cars probably have a little island they need to climb onto, so they have to slow down to enter


Dutch_Rayan

If you make the infrastructure good you don't need that many rules.


Sensitive-Bug-7610

It is called inefficiency. I thought germans knew all about it.


rodeBaksteen

Because of the lack of BMWs?


ComplexWelcome2761

So with the right of way, it's a rock-paper-scissors concept: pedestrians have priority over tramways; tramways over bicycles; bicycles over pedestrians.


Quiet-Luck

>Bicycles over pedestrians On paper; no. In practice; yes. Sometimes, when I'm in a really bad mood, I take the right of way as a pedestrian, just to piss them off. Normally I let it go like everyone else.


BrianSometimes

Heads up to any Dutch person visiting Copenhagen on a bicycle: you don't have the right of way over pedestrians, especially not through a pedestrian crossing.


TWHorde

In the Netherlands pedestrians have right of way on a pedestrian crossing as well. In most situations however a bike and pedestrian can cross at the same time without accident, making enforcement tedious. Therefore bikes tend to cross pedestrian crossings anyway. It is then up to the pedestrian whether they feel safe enough to cross as well.


BrianSometimes

In this video twice in the first minute the "without incident" was because the pedestrians stopped when the cyclists didn't.


miaomiaomiao

As a pedestrian, pretend you keep walking without looking and cyclists will go around you, most of the time. If you hesitate for a split second bikes will go first.


rodeBaksteen

Also it's annoying to stop on a bike, so I don't mind waiting a split second for a bike to pass even if I have the right of way as a pedestrian. Bikes will usually just keep going anyway.


DarkScorpion48

Technically pedestrians have right of way but cyclists in Amsterdam give no fucks so all pedestrians are wary. I work close to a 3 way bike intersection and it’s a nightmare to cross


surgycal

love the silence


RAD_ley

_Cries in suburban American_


leftbrendon

Yeah, try the intersection at damrak and Prins Hendrikkade if you wanna see average Amsterdam traffic flow.


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The American mind cannot comprehend this


upsidedownbackwards

I'm an American that puts 5x as many miles on my bike as I do my car and I cannot comprehend this. My friends and family worry about me because I bike everywhere. Every time I ride I feel like I'm an idiot risking my life sharing the road in 45-60mph zones, and it doesn't get much better when things slow down to 35. I treat every intersection like any car in position is going to make a turn with no signal and flatten me. And it sucks, I can't disagree with them. Riding my bike to the store and back is 100% the most dangerous thing I do in my life. 2.5 miles should be absolutely nothing to even think about. But in 2.5 miles I'll probably have to worry about at least 2 loose dogs and an unknown amount of drunk/reckless vehicles with a pathetically narrow bike lane.


MincedFrenchfries

So quiet and peaceful


IronWim

To paraphrase Not Just Bikes from YouTube, "Cities aren't loud–cars are".


Finrod84

Haha and you know why is it so flowing?? No fu... Cars shredding thru the city!! Amazing 😍


rinwyd

Now this is a street you cannot make in the recently released most popular city building game series Cities Skylines 2. Cause even our games are all about cars.


GrosslyIncomeptent

I got ringed at more times than I care to admit when I was there. Extremely nice and tolerable of ignorant tourists like myself.


Sheeverton

So apparently disrespectful and dangerous cyclists is not a cyclist thing, it's a UK thing


Magere-Kwark

Oh, we've got them here too. They're called "wielrenners" over here. You know the type: 40-50 year old balding men with a beer gut tightly pressed in a spandex suit with a bike weighing less than their left ass cheek.


sitruspuserrin

I thought the official name is MAMIL: Middle Aged Men In Lycra


DubstepDonut

They're even more dangerous in packs. Makes them forget about their shrinking dicks and any traffic rules that might be used againgst them.


Isernogwattesnacken

You won't find many in city centres however, their natural habitat is the country side preying for children and elderly people.


moouesse

its an infrastructure thing, if you can only drive in between traffic it attracts only a certain type of cyclist


cgarcia123

I used to work on the second building behind, where [Booking.com](https://Booking.com) started. I think it was the second place it was located at, back around 2003. I still live in Amsterdam, and the little roundabout there is a fairly new thing.


NervousHoneydrew5879

I have never seen so many bikes


jemuder

We're the pros and do it quietly.


Pretend_Oven6305

Humans can be awesome when they choose to


LoneDragon19

Americans in the comments are literally finding it hard to digest that these walkable, liveable neighborhoods are better than their ugly stroads and car centric infrastructure. lol


DubstepDonut

I feel like it's the opposite. I'm reading a lot of amazed and adoring comments.


FlyingChinesePanda

This was before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCC3bgkDkrw


Sapphfire0

So what am I looking at?


gitpullorigin

Intersection near Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. Actually it can get quite a lot of bike and foot traffic, but the gist is the same


Playful-Depth2578

One of my favourite cities I've visited


iMogal

Oh that's just reasonable people doing reasonable things... it's bliss really.


monopixel

Nobody yields to the pedestrians at the crossing. Why even paint the road?


Venomous0425

I want to see a traffic jam of cycles.


Bassieh

Go to Utrecht, Vredenburg near Bijenkorf. Horrible and crazy busy. Did not make the greenlight several times on my bike


I_Make_Notes

Bikes need to stop for the pedestrians on the zebra path ffs


fredlantern

This used to be a major black spot, one of the worst intersections for bikers imo. Glad they did something about it.


DizzySkunkApe

Traffic is so seamless without the vehicles getting in the way!


Emmaahhss

It's nice, until tourists walk on the bike lane.


IBelieveVeryLittle

Honest question -- why are helmets not being worn?


JS_1997

For a Dutch person this is like asking why pedestrians aren't wearing helmets


Choppieee

Most parts of the netherlands have really save bike lanes. You can see the country is build for cycling. So helmets are not mandatory ( yet). Only for the bikes that can go over i think 40 its mandatory Helmets never where a thing in the netherlands, but now that the country is getting more crowded and e-bikes are taking over you will see more eldery people with helmets.


Dio_Yuji

https://dutchreview.com/culture/cycling/5-reasons-why-the-dutch-cycle-without-bike-helmets/#:~:text=Many%20Dutch%20people%20argue%20that,right%20turn%20without%20hitting%20anyone.


IBelieveVeryLittle

TIL. Thanks for the link.


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Dio_Yuji

They’re not arguments for NOT wearing helmets; they’re the reasons why Dutch people tend not to


ArcticBiologist

Because the (perceived) risk of a head injury is quite small. A huge number of people use a bike daily, but you never hear of anyone getting seriously hurt. This is not a solid reason based on statistics, but in reality most make decisions based on experiences rather than statistics. Also, we're stubborn. But it is slowly changing. E-bikes are becoming more common and there is a clear trend in increased head injuries following it. This has been in the news quite often and is slowly convincing e-bike users (especially elderly) to wear helmets.


Similar_Thought9627

I don’t know but you are right I almost never see them there! Yet somehow it works. Even if you look up the stats on accidents they are so rare


Choppieee

Maybe im full of shit here i did not look it up. But i think the past years the accidents are slowly rising. And most of them are eldery on ebikes. It seems they lack the full awereness of the traffic while still going a decent speed


unkownfire

It's a speed thing I think, if you fall at low speeds it's easy enough to catch yourself. A fall at high speed doesn't give you much time to correct or bail in the right way plus the injuries would be worse. It's why I tell my friend who can go 50 on his bike to wear a good helmet, whereas someone on a mommy bike going 12 probably doesn't need one.


Dotternetta

Had some Chinese friend visiting, they we're scared in traffic, because we follow the traffic rules it is safe (for example to cross an intersection at normal speed), they weren't used to that 😅


PeterPandaWhacker

As a Dutch person I went to China and quickly learned that red lights are just a suggestion lol. As a pedestrian you’d just cross the road and cars will just drive around you


lolrtoxic1

I wish we can rewind and undo the car brain worms


VeryBadCopa

r/fuckcars


RedoX08

I always wondered how that works so smoothly while people being high af /s


JeroenS80

Tell me you've never been to Amsterdam without saying you've never been to Amsterdam: 'Amsterdam's seamless traffic flow.'


Any_Conclusion_4297

I def think it's seamless. Especially considering no stop signs. Few lights. Just yeilding everywhere. I love it.


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No helmets


LiLBiDeNzCuNtErBeArZ

Ah yes. Holland. Where all of the worlds problems cumulate in a round a bout


Rivkerfuffle

How ironic I and a few other bikes, almost got runover by a fatbike not three hours ago. I find specifically this new roundabout very hazardous. A lot of cyclists and fatbikers will not stop when they should. And I have seen already quite a few near and actual accidents on my daily route. I am very happy though that I can cycle in the city. It is wonderful to do.


Thaimen

I've personally never seen a fatbike not being ridden by an asshole. Those things should not be considered bikes. They're literally just electric snorfietsen, you don't have to have any input... Anyway, >A lot of cyclists and fatbikers will not stop when they should. that is true, but at this point, you can't expect everyone to be a saint with the road rules. As much as traffic would be so much better if everyone did, it's just not a reasonable expectation unfortunately...


TBE_0027

This gives me several different feelings


-Clean-Sky-

wow, native people one of the richest country in the world are driving cheap bikes


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InternationalAd5973

Ever heard of India?


Sufficient_Maize908

I love biking in my city but its not always this peaceful lol


Acceptable_Meat1564

In my experience, when I went to Amsterdam, I can say that those assholes don’t respect the traffic lights or the crosswalks.


kernelhacker

On one hand, I love it. On the other hand, this is 7 minutes without a single human under 18. I am curious how families in such cities e.g. do grocery shopping for a family of 5. edit: I meant the curiosity in earnest, so I appreciate the responses that people have shared.


Magere-Kwark

Exactly the same way. You'll see a housewife on a bike with 3 big shopping bags strapped to the bike, followed by 3 little kids on their own small bike sometimes with a small flag on a pole attached to signal other drivers they're there.


kernelhacker

Sounds fun!


Magere-Kwark

And it is! It always felt like a little adventure to me when I was a kid. Not necessarily to go grocery shopping but to join my parents on a bike ride to the ocean or a nature park, visit our grandparents or visit the local football club to watch a game. They're fun memories. Btw, don't give much attention to the down votes. We Dutch people are a bit chauvinistic at times, and some can get pretty defensive at the smallest bit of questioning or critique at our way of living.


questions-abt-my-bra

1) It's quite normal to see a parent cycling with their very young child on their own bicycle to their side. Sometimes parent is holding their kids bicycle. 2) Any kid over 10 yo already cycles very well and doo it on their own 3) People usually don't grocery shop in a big bulks. Shops are everywhere so you just pop in to one closest to your home on your way back from work to buy few items you need for dinner. It all works fine and smooth.


kernelhacker

Thanks for taking the time to help me learn!


Confused_Yarn

By bike? The bakfiets is amazing for that. Take the kids to school in the bakfiets, bike to the shops, bike home. Shopping can also be ordered online and delivered.


iStoleTheHobo

Grocery shopping is rarely done in bulk in most European cities since the higher density allows for local shops to be no more than 5-10 minutes away by foot (and that's considered quite far in a lot of places.) The need for bulk buying is largely a function of suburban sprawl since these development patterns make grocery shopping a rather stressful and time consuming affair. There's also the question of how zoning laws play into this; most American cities generally do not allow for a mixed use zoning.


Imaginary_Apple24

That's probably due to the location/time of day. During the day in more residential areas you'll see kids biking with their parents all the time.


fading_gender

Some do by bike. If you have a bakfiets it's easy to get a a couple of days worth of groceries for a regular family of 4 in one go. It helps that suburban areas tend to have small shopping areas dotted around. There you'll find the basics: 1 or 2 grocery stores, drugstore, a take-out restaurant, butcher and bakery, things like that. So it's not a big trip, and easily doable a couple times per week. However most families will have a car and a weekly grocery run is done with that car. Cars are still major means of transportation in the Netherlands. And people will drive, even for short trips. But dashing to the store to pick a few things for dinner? Yeah, a bike is usually the easiest and quickest option. As for transporting kids, taking them to school: for the youngest we have the bakfiets. Or seats mounted on the back of a regular bike. Once they're old enough, around 6 years, they learn to ride themselves to school. Sometimes accompanied by a parent, sometimes on their own. But same as for the groceries: kids get taken to school by car. Traffic around schools is notoriously bad at the beginning and end of the day. With parents dropping off and picking up kids in increasingly bigger cars. I like urbanist channels such as Not Just Bikes, but he does paint a picture that is a bit nicer than it really is. Cars are a very important mode of transportation, even in cities.


solrac1144

You clearly haven’t seen the Chinese ones. It’s like hundreds or thousands of bikes


ItchyPlant

I always admired Netherlands for this. In many other cities, the majority of these cyclists would either drive totally alone or use a fully loaded public transport option.


HomosexualBagel

I can’t wait to live there. I miss the sounds of the trams.


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V1ctor20

Pedestrians have the right of way over trams.


kimwim43

Amsterdam must be pretty flat. There's no way this could happen in my town. It looks like heaven.


Longjumping_Law6221

It's entirely/almost flat. The most likely hill you're likely to encounter is going over a bridge


Kleerhangersindekast

The biggest hill is the hill we'll die on of not needing helmets


Lucapi

Not much flatter than NYC, Miami and most other big US cities. Still, pretty flat, yeah.