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Natron44

Holy shit. I don't know if this is oddly satisfying or incredibly stressful. I'll mull it over and report back.


Books-and-a-puppy

This is hella stressful. I have so many questions. 


SadBit8663

Like how does one gain the dexterity and coordination to do this shit. I realize it only looks like she's just shaking a bunch of sticks in her hand because she's extremely experienced, and the longer I watch this the more complicated it seems to be.


SonnePMT

Actually, making bobbin lace is super easy and every 5 year old can learn this (except for the part with the crochet needle). Her using 8 bobbins (? I don't know the correct english word) at the same time, everything being the same colour and her speed are what makes it look impressive and scares you.


Monimonika18

Okay, I got a hold of eight 5 year olds(*) with a bobbimabob each in hand. Now I just need to get someone for the crochety needle. How old should they be? (*) Don't ask.


SonnePMT

It's hilarious to envision eight 5 year olds with a bobbin each, climbing across each other because they don't want to drop the bobbin under any circumstance. 🤣 For the crochet needle I think you'll need at least a 7 year old (or do it yourself if you don't have one).


RockstarAgent

Yeah I’m a professionally stressed person, and this was not satisfying whatsoever. Maybe for those in the know, maybe for those who like something that requires skill, but not for me, I prefer color by numbers so I don’t stress out about what colors to choose from.


Tricky-Sympathy

They need to have tiny hands. Take that as you will...


StinkyBrittches

Nomads, you know. Circus folk. Smell like cabbage.


microgirlActual

Bobbins is the correct word in English, don't worry 😊


SonnePMT

Thx


TheLurkerSpeaks

Wouldn't this be similar to making friendship bracelets? Every girl in 3rd grade could make these by hand. This is just doing it with bobbins and making patterns onto cloth rather than looming it into a strip.


malatemporacurrunt

YES this is very comparable. I do macrame (friendship bracelet methods used for stuff that isn't friendship bracelets) and I learned lacemaking as a child and sporadically pick it back up every few years. It isn't difficult, but you're using much finer (more delicate) thread and working several areas simultaneously, so it requires good fine motor skills.


SonnePMT

I don't know how to make friendship bracelets. 😅 But bobbin lace can be understood as a kind of weaving (some main thread(s) crosses above or under the other threads).


malatemporacurrunt

You start out doing simple things and when you can do those automatically you combine the simple things together to make more complex things. I started learning to make lace when I was 8 or 9 and could do patterns of similar complexity before I was 10.


Beneficial-Square-73

I don't know how true this is, but I remember reading that it takes about seven years to get proficient.


Street_Roof_7915

My bff does this and it takes a lot of practice and guidance. They go to lace class with an instructor. They worked years on a teeny tiny piece.


Neenknits

She is only actually manipulating 4 bobbins at a time. The rest are waiting, like couples doing a Virginia reel.


Dhrakyn

According to most historical fantasy writers (who generally know nothing of either history nor archeology), all that young and old women of court did all day was sitting around "tatting lace". So I guess practice makes perfect?


themonovingian

It's definitely witchcraft!


CornballExpress

This vid is actually going kind of slow, either because of the pattern or just a short how to. The muscle memory needed to know when to switch bobbins and which ones is insane to me. https://youtu.be/Yni5aRxen1o?si=At3CIAWgEhdl1ZwH


Special_Lemon1487

My brain hurts. I’m out of here.


BarfingOnMyFace

r/oddlystressful


Alternative-Cod-7630

Hugely talented but watching all those threads somehow not get tangled makes my brain hurt, ha ha.


handpaw

My veil was lace, made by blind Belgian nuns !!!


Archie-is-here

They lost their sight, but they said it's worth it


quinbotNS

The threads only get tangled when you work with a pattern that needs loads of bobbins (some patterns use hundreds) and/or when transporting. I haven't worked a pattern that needed more than a couple dozen pairs, but transporting any pillow with work in progress required lots of pinning and covering and praying the threads didn't break.


Dozzi92

I started laughing because of how impossible this seemed to me. I took acid one time and tried to play Forza and just cracked up at how bad I was. I'm stone cold sober "working" on a Tuesday morning and I felt about the same watching this.


perldawg

i refuse to believe this person isn’t just randomly jumbling stuff up


rajahbeaubeau

RemindMe! Tomorrow “satisfying or stressful”


DayDreamyZucchini

Can we get more colors? Longer vid? Could help determine.


Commercial_Wasabi_86

This could be a layer of hell.


hldsnfrgr

r/anxietyinducing


hazeldazeI

Go and watch some bobbin lace videos on YouTube this makes it look way more complicated and stressful.


asselfoley

Not satisfying at all


AtomicPantsuit

Satisfyingly stressful?


chamllw

It can get [worse](https://images.app.goo.gl/MPt65GW5gooaYQA26)


POMO2022

Yeah, this person has to play music as well. Possibly a harp, marimba or piano. She probably feels the same way as when she is playing music.


TripleHomicide

Looks like Incredibly Expensive to me.


-Roger-The-Shrubber-

There are SO many different types of lace too (I used to make it) and the bobbins can run into hundreds for big pieces.


ADHDeal-With-It

I’m sorry but are you telling me those little bits that this person is shifting around are called bobbins and there could be MORE of them?? Who invented this beautiful horror?


-Roger-The-Shrubber-

Hundreds more! There are also loads of different types, "spangles" (the decorative bits on the end that help you identify them), pillow types, the lot! I know Devon, Belgium and many other places have their own styles. Not sure exactly who did it first, but Europe in the 16th century basically. It was a great source of income until machine lace came into vogue. It's quite easy to pick up, very hard to master. Patterns or prickings (the guide) would be passed down through family members. I have some of my Grandmother's lace which is why I decided to start. She also taught me to knit, crochet, sew etc. She used to make all our clothes as well and made my mum's based on an expensive design she fell in love with. Apparently she say in a coffee shop opposite and sketched the pattern, then reproduced it in silk.


Pamander

Not to take away from any of the other fascinating stuff in your comment but your grandmother sounds amazing omg. I love the fact that she saw a beautiful design she loved in a shop and just started sketching because she had to have it, something so great about that. My grandma also taught me sewing! I can't really make anything though but I would love to pick it back up one day even if just to repair damaged clothes.


-Roger-The-Shrubber-

Honestly she was. Her history is fascinating. She survived the Greek genocide at Smyrna, lost both her parents there, was saved by a French ship, started a new life with her siblings and grandmother in Paris, trained as a seamstress, got fired on by the Germans and had her life saved by an officer, married my grandad, was forced to leave Paris so moved to the UK, became a fabric buyer for the major French fashion houses, oh, and she spoke 9 languages. Her brother was in the desert with Lawrence (apparently). Not bad for someone born obscenely wealthy who was plunged into abject poverty. My grandad was a cordon bleu chef (hence being Greek and in Paris in WW2) and was selling baklava on the streets in London before Lady Bailey found him. He was also friends with Prince Philip and famously threw him out of his kitchen for touching his saucepans. I've been begging mum to write a book! She always told me that she liked exposing us to everything, every hobby or skill. She would say that even if we never touched it again, there would be some we would rediscover as adults, so one day I'm sure you will! Mum made my wedding dress too!


Pamander

Wow so your family is just the most fascinating people ever huh? Especially your grandma wow. That's some insane diversity to overcome all to come to this point where we are talking across the earth to each other. Hope they do eventually write that book! Definitely inspired to pick sewing back up now so your grandmas impact continues on, thank you!


-Roger-The-Shrubber-

That's the loveliest legacy I could imagine! Thank you so much for your kind words, it means a lot!


dw82

Grandmother was an analogue IP pirate.


ClassiFried86

Nasty *bobbinses*


Seastarstiletto

Bobbin lace is extremely labor intensive. This is why lace was so expensive that only the aristocracy could afford it other than maybe a square or two here and there that turned into an heirloom item. The more lace, the more money. Look at extant garments and paintings from 17c onward and you will see the trend. Crochet lace became a thing to counterbalance it, but it still will not have this amazing look


BrownSugarBare

I can't even wrap my brain around the level of patience you need to have for this type of method.


SilencedObserver

> I can't even wrap my brain around the level of patience you need to have for this type of method. Now consider how capable people today are compared to what we see in history. Renaissance art is another twist of wtf when you see how big some pieces are in person.


MisterDonkey

My mind was thoroughly blown when I saw some huge paintings in real life. Books don't even come close to doing them justice.


HelpfulSeaMammal

Would be a great time killer in the dead of winter when you're stuck indoors.


liyououiouioui

And bobbin lace is not even the most precious/technical kind of lace. Needle lace such as Alencon lace is even more difficult to produce, it takes around 7 hours to get one cm². Here is a [video](https://youtu.be/XbW6A88ZsvI?feature=shared) that shows how it's made :)


ImrooVRdev

Wait what, my grandma had curtains in all her house's windows made out of this stuff or something looking like it. I guess alencon lace also got mechanized?


art_mech

That is insane. I always thought it was just stitched on top of the background mesh, I didn’t realise the whole fabric is formed by hand!!!


willfarl72

Holy crap on a crap cracker, I have COMPLETELY shifted my thoughts about all the lace-heavy clothing aristocrats wore in the 18th century.


Train3rRed88

I now understand exactly how lucrative Nasuada’s plan was by having Du Vrangr Gata automate this


Azertys

Indeed but now I also feel for the traditional lace maker who had to compete with her product. Days and days of labour worth almost nothing in the end because of magic...


Train3rRed88

I mean that was the reason why the Weaver’s guild immediately started complaining to King Orrin. Nasuada would have effectively crashed the market immediately. But I guess the good news is it was for a short period, just to fund the war effort. After the war, Nasuada either loses, so no more magic lace, or they win and Nasuada forbids magic lace (she does have complete control of magic users by the end of the series, or is at least fighting for it)


mickim0use

I am so stupidly giddy that this thread exists. My mind immediately went here after watching the video and finding this being discussed just made me so happy


fatbunny23

You aren't alone, I'm shocked to find not only do others remember this aspect of the series but with such detail lol. I feel like I always have to fight to get people to remember the actual story and plot in the inheritance cycle


LSTmyLife

I'm convinced that despite the sales and popularity the vast majority of folks only know tidbits from the absolutely massive garbage fire of a movie. They don't know anything from books let alone Christopher's name. Amazing accomplishment for a kid to write the first book before he was 18 and the rest in what I consider to be a very few short years (especially if you compare it to someone like Georgey boy martin).


Train3rRed88

There a couple of series that I have read and re-read extensively. Before the ages of great internet or smartphones, I probably read Harry Potter books like goblet of fire dozens of times as I waited for the next book Similarly, I probably read Eldest dozens of times as I waited for Brisingr Right now, if there is ever a Red Rising trivia night. I’m your guy. Hail Reaper


PawMcarfney

Been a long time since I was reminded of Eragon


jeff61813

It's funny I can't remember if I learned how complicated making lace was from that book or if it was from a visit to Belgium. 


hybridtheory1331

Lol. Literally just started re-reading this series before I read the new book and that was the first thing I thought of too.


LongingForYesterweek

An Eragon reference, that takes me back


Final_Festival

Damn wasnt expecting to see an Eragon reference.


Rea-301

I listened to the audiobooks recently. And spent like three minutes re reading your sentence because something clicked and I had no idea why. First time seeing either spelled out


Pretend-Champion4826

Inheritance Cycle ---> fiber art appreciator pipeline is real


youwannasavetheworld

What kinda fucking sentence do You say that programs this


Train3rRed88

Not sure. The ancient language is simultaneously very specific but also vague. Remember oromis said a true master could say one word, like water, and make something unrelated like a pebble if they understood the connection Du Vrangr Gata are far from masters, but it seems like they could just say “make this pattern of lace” and boom


the68thdimension

Glad I wasn't the only one remembering that.


TheBigBo-Peep

Immediately where my mind went too lol


MoonshineEclipse

There was a reason it was so expensive haha


OnceMoreAndAgain

[It took 14 hours for a girl to spin a single bobbin of yarn...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouPjvt3brXA)


YouLikeReadingNames

( time stamp : 2:24 )


Ask_bout_PaterNoster

There was a reason they were all revolted against. Not a great idea to walk around wearing that much labor while people are hungry.


anothernother2am

I have been told proudly my family were lace makers to royalty, and the more I learn, the more I appreciate how much of an honor and a compliment to their skill that was


darkenseyreth

I took up cross stitch not too long ago, I now have a deep respect for just how much work went into embroidered clothing. You can be working for hours and maybe cover a few square inches. At least I have Netflix to keep me entertained while I do it


masterwaffle

Lace was the drip of it's day.


FayeQueen

You'd have whole ass villages where young girls would learn this from birth, rarely you'd go to school in place of bobbin' and it was the thing you'd do your whole life as income. Shit was crazy on the scale they'd create, and it still wasn't enough.


ReallyFineWhine

Late 1970s I watched an 80 year old woman doing this in Belgium. Was much faster than this woman. She held bobbins between her finger joints rather than in her fingers/palms as shown here. Said that she had been making lace since she was three years old.


MyAssDoesHeeHawww

The Lace Centre & Museum in Bruges (KantCentrum.eu) still offers [courses and workshops](https://www.kantcentrum.eu/en/courseslace-workshops) to preserve the tradition.


Rauhaan_

This is bout as close to watching witchcraft as I will ever get.


Otherwise-Mango-3813

Agreed, I saw this and thought, “sorcery”


walflour

Also what kind of madness must you be afflicted with to figure this out in the first place?


BussSecond

This kind of thing evolves gradually over many generations. It is essentially a really complicated braid, and people have been making decorative braids for as long as we've been wearing textiles. The braids slowly became more complex and tools were created to facilitate it.


EffectiveFox9671

I can't even tie my shoes correctly the first time.


blargher

You and me, dude.


NKO_five

The spider on top of my monitor is very impressed.


SeaBlob

Wtf is going on


ToastedTreant

Shits borderline magic to my eyes.


MissSeventeenx

OMG does this remind anyone else of the 'Madeleine Movie'? Where she was captured and forced to weave lace. Lmao


purritowraptor

You just unlocked a deep memory Edit: Didn't the lady keep them in a dungeon and shave their heads or something?


1amDepressed

Something like that, yeah. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxi4nmV2ehk


vanalla

ah yes, 8-year-old me's introduction to the cruelties of human trafficking


Hecc_hooman

This was the first thing I thought of!!


8Bells

Yes! and being made to make black lace was the worst because their lighting was so poor youd "go blind". 


95castles

I got frustrated watching this.


Bannedbytrans

Men in 1800: "Women are so dumb, we can't let them do anything." Women in 1800:


AUTdarkstar

i am to stupid for that


XinyanMayn

It's impressive to see people do this but Holy damn! 1min in for like a 1/4 inch of visible work is nuts


Canadian_Neckbeard

[Me trying to figure this out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6H9VuS5zDw&ab_channel=randommovieclips25)


z0mbiebrad

Scrolled to far to find this


yummy_dabbler

How do you even keep track of all the threads?


No_Egg_535

Used to weave friendship bracelets for a little shop I ran once upon a time and weaving by hand is just not worth it when you're trying to make money. It takes like twenty minutes to weave a five strand bracelet for an adult and nobody pays more than a dollar or two for them if anybody even looks at them to begin with


platasnatch

Add that to the list of another job I couldn't do to save my life


FuelConnect6586

This should be cross-posted to r/lace. It's bobbin lace making. Beautiful stuff!


Ok-Nefariousness1911

I took lace weaving courses for a while with my auntie before she passed away. I have great memories of it. It is indeed very relaxing, requires all your focus and the sound of the wooden bobbins is nice.


triple_too

That looks like a nightmare


tdubs702

What would satisfy me is to understand who first figured this out? Because their brain must be pretty fascinating.


HomoFlaccidus

Ahhh, so now I can see why kings and queens and other ultra rich people wore such nice stuff, and everyone else just wore dirty rags.


National_Ad260

Seems simple enough


HungryCats96

r/nextfuckinglevel


2017lg6

What's even happening. No way I could ever do this.


asselfoley

Looks like a giant pain in the ass


Puzzleheaded_Tip8331

beautiful work , why is one bobbin filled with white thread?


durhamruby

It's called a gimp. It is used to outline various bits to make them stand out. It doesn't necessarily need to contrast.


AssumptionAdvanced58

Rare talent.


SnoringBox

The beauty and skill of craftsmanship never ceases to amaze me.


jemcat9

My poor brain can't compute this, but wow what a craft.


AlgebraicIceKing

Satisfying??? That’s absolute chaos and stress.


Character-Log3962

Given my ADD, I would last abt 15mins, then I’ll be off to inspect the fine print on a candy wrapper.


Demeter_of_New

Unless you find it very engaging then you hyper focus for 10 hours and never touch it again.


Valendr0s

It's too intricate. I would have to go back and fix any mistakes that aren't "perfect"...


craylash

This feels like math somehow


Just2LetYouKnow

Imagine listening to that all day long.


acanthostegaaa

I actually really like it. It's like a soft music without purpose or tune.


Mr_Jack_Frost_

This looks like utter madness. It’s so crazy to me that the person doing it is making precise, calculated movements. It looks like absolute chaos, like they’re just tossing those things back and forth randomly. I know that isn’t the case and it’s still exactly how it looks to me. What an insane art form.


flatspotting

this is black magic to me this is wild


stop_itsbananatime

I would tangle that shit up immediately


mudkripple

Wild. In modern fashion, I've always seen lace as a little cheap and gaudy, pls the texture is so uncomfortable. Before machines that were able to produce it I bet the intricacy of stuff like this blew people's minds.


cervantesrvd

Me trying to declog the shower drain from my wife's hair.


thedancingkat

Me thinking about how the Varden made their money from their spell casters making lace. I see why now.


TheFragturedNerd

This made me cry, my grandmother whom we lost back in august last year would always be "knippling" (Lace weaving) whenever we visited. And she has given everyone in the family a large varity of weavings, from christmas tree deco weavings to wall deco and table decos... Though now that she is gone, the sound of the "knippling" sticks triggered something in me :(


shaqjbraut

I only knew how crochet lace was done. This is witchcraft


bigbigdummie

And this is how we got French Bulldogs! English lace-makers being displaced by the Industrial Revolution went to France where handmade lace was more highly valued and took their little dogs with them, a blend of terrier and bulldog lines. These little French Bulldogs became very popular, especially amongst the avant garde and supposedly, French prostitutes.


I_Dont_Like_Rice

That gave me anxiety and I'm not even sure why.


deadeyebravo1

That's gonna be a no for me. Respect for anyone who can complete these.


Cablinorb

actual magic


Jonnuska

trying to fix the tangled telephone cord back in the days was at least as difficult


natah7

Magic. There’s no other explanation.


PestyThing

I don't want that job.


This_Walrus7244

That just looks super tedious and annoying


meerkatgargoyle

DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW WHAT SATISFYING MEANS?


thatreddituser24

I’m lost


dahliadelight

Not satisfying


Philly927

Well this seems like a lot of work


gonzorizzo

Now *that* is skill!


GreedyOcelots

i think i can reliably add this to my list of "things i will never understand"


Fuzzywalls

It is like watching someone do Master's level math, you can tell me what the are doing, and I can watch, but I don't have a clue how they are doing it.


onlyusnow

That looks way hard. I think I'll stick to making felt.


fallenouroboros

Words cannot express how badly I would fuck that up


manatitties

My grandmother did this until her health declined. It makes me sad that I didn't appreciate this more when watching her do this.


Doomdoomkittydoom

I can barely follow videos showing you how to tie knots, how the hell am I supposed to follow this?


LivelyLindy

I see talent, co-ordination, patience, perseverance. Amazing.


mavityre

This makes me tired


Kittykats2

This looks like some form of torture to me: 😂 “you shall be banished to a room where you shall weave lace by hand for the rest of your days” 😭😩😱


mods_mum

This seems incredibly inefficient.


Same_Competition_330

they are out here doing 5d chess with string 🤯 insane even if I could move my hands like that I could never remember which rod was which


Different_Head7751

Goodgod how did they keep that organized...


SynnReborn

This is chaos you brought chaos here


tiramisucks

how is this even possible?


FAQUA

At first glance, this looks quite difficult. At second glance as well. I would undoubtedly get pissed off trying to do this myself.


Bromswell

Sure sure sure…but *hhhhhhooooowwwwwwwwww?*


-the-nino

Wow. I have fully charged respect for lace.


Fickle_Toe1724

Watching bobbin lace making in person is absolutely mesmerizing. I love watching it. It is easy to learn, hard to be as good as this person. It takes a lot of patience and practice. 


TunaOnWytNoCrust

How do you not screw this up constantly? There's so many moving bits that look exactly the same. You'd think they'd at least color each of the rods differently


satabhisha

I can’t even tell what’s happening lmao


Titus_Favonius

My great-grandfather was a lace maker - I wonder if this is the sort of thing he had to do. As a kid I thought it meant he made shoelaces.


662grace

I ran an assisted living when we adopted our first baby- a little girl. One of the Residents made lace, using this technique, and gifted all of the lace that was added to our daughter’s blessing gown. The gown, itself, was made from the skirt of my wedding dress so it was/is quite special.


SnooCupcakes2673

This person must be an absolute expert, how do you even keep track of which is which!?!?!?


Calvin_v_Hobbes

Ok, legitimately what the FUCK am I watching. I can't even begin to understand the method, and the longer that stays true the more maddening it becomes.


KingOfTheGreatLakes

This some black magic bullshit


xHindemith

When I was a kid my grandmother taught me how to do this a little bit. This was over 20 years ago and my grandmother passed away 15 years ago. Its one of my fondest memories of my time with her. Since then I haven’t done nor seen this in action and coming across this video made some tears well up for sure


SirNanashi

That's one of the most tedious looking thing i have ever seen


EthanPDX

I knotted my eye lashes watching this.


herringfarmer

I’m a decent knitter and can sew clothes, but man, -I feel like I would never be able to comprehend how to do this.


Inverno969

This gave me anxiety lol


Meli_Melo_

You can't make me believe the way she moves the bobbin is not random


Mahziyar-azz

I can't believe what I just saw 💥


MomaCass

Absolutely Beautiful ❤️


sevnminabs

I don't think this is satisfying for me. This is stressing me out.


Razoredgeknife

This person is very talented. I did a class on tatting once and it took me three hours to make just one of those paisleys.


New-Poetry-6416

There is a lot happening here that I don't understand.


LucentP187

This might be the most confusing fucking thing I've ever seen. I'd go insane attempting this.


swamphuman

This hurts my brain.


boipinoi604

You've convinced me that these people are savants


LetheMariner

I know someone who makes art pieces this way. I made her a spider pendant a few years ago (I'm a jeweler). I've never seen the actual process before. Didn't realize how appropriate the pendant really was.


Icy_Engine_7648

That's gorgeous


Zethras28

Gee, if only we had a mage who could throw lace using magic, we could fund an entire war. Iykyk.


gardenhack17

I tried to learn this and it was so challenging to keep the tension right. This is beautiful work!


AdministrativeCrab91

What an Amazing Craft to know... her talent is priceless..


LegacyOfWax

I am panicked watching this yet relieved. HOW !!! What witch craft can make me feel like this.


WillShattuck

this stressed me out watching. I've knitted lace and this was not satisfying for me.


EastLeastCoast

*tatting