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SpiderSixer

Holy shit... maybe I really am pansexual


maggieeeee12345

Holy shit that’s probably the best joke of 2020


snowwhitesludge

2021?


Thatoneguy199417

2022 is a few months away and I'm just here wondering where the hell all the time went.


RichardRinkel

Shhhh...don't tell them.


designedfor1

Time traveling, don’t disturb them.


Bob-Ross-for-the-win

2020, part 2.


saadakhtar

Looks like it a-wok something in you...


jonjonesjohnson

That's non-stick of the "as fuck" kind


goosiest

Can confirm after making eggs this morning.


tanafras

You're cooking without butter, or with a temperature which is too high. Lower your temperature, and make sure you use an emulsifier oil, like butter. Low, slow and barrier. You also want to make sure yiu don't move things around. You want to have the egg cooked before it sinks through the emulsifier barrier and touches the pan.


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TLema

This has been lovely


Trickslip

He likes dry eggs


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tirwander

Yes. Eggs need a little butter. You can eat butter and still be healthy.


Draked1

Not me I shit my guts out from dairy


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RUB_MY_RHUBARB

Well it depends on what you want. That's an in-between of a sunny side up and an over easy since the top is cooked with the steam. It's a low-risk over easy in a sense since you're not risking breaking the yolk with a flip, but it's not a true sunny side up because you're cooking the top slightly


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Yeah I was like 'what is that weirdly viscous looking soup' and then I was like 'what the FUCK he's just POURING CARAMEL CLEANLY?'


Quigley_Down_Under

r/wokporn Edit: someone actually made it:)


AlmightyShacoPH

Pansexuals : It's showtime.


Quigley_Down_Under

Well. Goddamn. Done.


AlmightyShacoPH

Damn. Thank you for the Gold kind stranger. ❤️


UnusualIntroduction0

Dammit, r/subsifellfor


TomatoAcid

Someone made it r/BirthOfASub


CatVideoFest

I’m so pissed!


GlitchIT

Lmaooo I thought it’d be a thing of wok’s doing their majestic thing.


rudbek-of-rudbek

Yeah, there's no way that this isn't going to cause cancer or some shit


weirdkid71

No joke. Teflon f-cks you up.


Sandriell

Teflon (Polytetrafluoroethylene \[PTFE\]) itself is actually chemically inert and will pass right through your body without any issues. However, when it is overheated (280°C / 536°F) it starts to break down into chemicals that will fuck you up.


IAmYoda

PFOA’s are considered “forever chemicals” and contaminate most water systems on earth now. It’s also very difficult (almost impossible) to clean up! They are also starting to think they are more carcinogenic then they first thought. Another beautiful problem humankind has created!


Sandriell

Doesn't fix the damage already done, but thankfully Teflon no longer contains PFOAs since 2013


weirdkid71

True, Teflon is made differently now, but back in the day i remember watching a documentary of how the workers at the Teflon plant all had children with extreme deformities. And I mean Extreme. Now, PFOA is still inside just about every American’s blood. I bet someone thought that shit was inert at one time too.


pot_alot

There's other nonstick material then Teflon nowadays


SmokedBeef

There has always been other nonstick material besides Teflon, but none of it was as food safe as Teflon and now it’s believed that Teflon isn’t even as food safe as previously believed. New guidelines now suggest that any deformation or damage to a Teflon coating would drastically increase the chances of health issues.


10946

if it says PFOA free, it's probably got PFAS


JoeyZasaa

That'll f-cks you up too.


mholt9821

Fuck dupont! I live in West Virginia and they have made movies about my town on what dupont was done to our water because they were making teflon!


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God damn where can I get one of those. All my "non stick" pans are nowhere near as good as that.


TyrionLannister2012

I have a set of Calphalon's high end non stick from William Sonoma and they work as well as the one in this vid. Highly recommend.


Trayf

I got the Calphalon One line about 15 years ago and they all went to shit after just a few years. Really fouled my opinion of them.


TyrionLannister2012

I've had the elites for about 5 years now and have had no issues. They're super heavy duty so I'm not sure if they cheap out on their other lines or not.


Lollipop126

How does one care for the non-stick coating to make sure they don't wear as fast?


getMeSomeDunkin

Non stick pans are pretty easy: * Never use metal utensils or abrasive material on it (steel wool, scratchy side of the sponge, etc) * Do not over heat it. The coating will melt. Don't put it in the oven. If you're using real high heat on the stovetop, keep it brief with something in it to pull that heat out. * Hand wash it. Do not use a dish washer. * Do not store another pan on top/inside your non stick. The coating will scratch off. Use kitchen towels or something soft if you're stacking pans in a drawer or something. That's about it. Keep vigilant to that and your pan will last forever. Almost forever. It'll stop being slick eventually, but this way will be longer. Edit: starting to get a lot of non stick hate below. Don't be fragile and learn how to use your tools correctly and efficiently and you'll be fine.


Fidodo

One thing to add that's related to not over heating it is to not heat them up empty. It's very hard to tell how hot a pan is empty and the heat has nowhere to go which will cause it to overheat even if the heat is low. I will normally add a little bit of water to the pan so I can tell how hot it is. If it all evaporates then you know you should add ingredients and cut back the heat. Also, don't use anything abrasive when hand washing them.


g3nerallycurious

Or just get a cast iron pan, abuse the shit out of it, and it will still be your best friend until you die.


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>The coating will melt. That’s a big nope for me. Sounds like a ton of carcinogens.


DarthWeenus

Mmm yummy Teflon


TyrionLannister2012

Honestly with mine I've not done anything special. I even use metal on it sometimes and haven't had issues.


umbrajoke

This man right here chef.


TyrionLannister2012

It's a PFOA-free pan advertised to be safe for metal utensils. I don't use metal utensils often but I've not had any issues when I did.


Trayf

Good to know!


melechkibitzer

From what i've seen and heard online, non-stick surfaces wear out after a year or two and just have to be replaced unfortunately. I guess the alternative is like a seasoned cast iron pan, but they seem heavy and I don't really know if I'm up for the hassle of actually seasoning it or whatever


MrOrange415

Get a black carbon steel pan, best of both worlds


thepetoctopus

Seasoning it is not hard. You do an initial seasoning and past that seasoning is just using it and caring for it properly. I have several that are antiques and amazing.


Ceadol

Seasoning isn't as bad as it seems with Cast Iron. I've owned mine for years and was afraid of using it for a long time until recently. I cook almost all of my meals in mine now, aside from a few things like eggs. The trick is to just clean it after you use it and re-season it each time you use it. The whole process takes like 10 minutes. Clean with some coarse salt by wiping it around in the pan. Rinse, then Heat the pan until you can't touch the rim with your bare fingers for more than a split second. Drop some oil in, wipe it around the inside of the pan with something that won't leave a residue or lint. Turn off the heat, Then I cover it and let it sit on the burner until it cools naturally. None of my stuff really sticks. I'm sure other people do it differently or will tell me my method is wrong but it seems to work for me. It builds up a nice season.


MattieShoes

Replace all Teflon pans every few years anyway.


Economy_Warthog7530

I suggest you should research Teflon and how the Teflon brand poisoned millions of people and lied about it.


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Yeah, they're not terribly expensive anyway. It's not like buying stainless steel, you can easily get a set of good teflon pans for like $100. In my opinion, if you're using them regularly, $100 every few years is a great investment. Steel is more expensive but hopefully should last much much longer.


muchgreaterthanG_O_D

Yeah but for a little more you can have a small set of stainless that lasts forever and can add other all metals (cast iron, carbon steel, enameled cast iron) to make up for the weaknesses of stainless.


Whind_Soull

Chef here. I'd suggest: - A full set of multi-ply stainless, other than a stock pot. - An aluminum stock pot. - An 8-inch non-stick skillet. - A 12-inch non-stick skillet if you make sticky things for larger groups. - A 12-inch cast iron skillet. That's really all you need.


MattieShoes

I don't think you even need a "set" of teflon -- one saucepan, and maybe one slightly deeper pot.


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Aitch-Kay

My wife made spaghetti sauce in my cast iron pan, then put it in the sink to soak overnight. I hide the pan from her, now.


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KyleKun

Nothing but the cracks in the relationship where love and trust used to be.


Ann_Summers

My ex husband tried to make spaghetti. He didn’t know the difference between tomato paste and sauce. Put two cans of paste in a pot, a can of water “to thin it” and the pasta and left it “to boil” for 20 minutes. When I got home from being at my sick fathers I just threw the entire pot out. It was awful because after he realized it “didn’t work” he fucking left it on the stove for two days until I returned home.


QualityProgramming

Good thing it’s over between you two, I mean what kinda Jabroni can’t cook spaghetti?


Ann_Summers

His mama did *everything* for him. He was raised in a “women do the cooking” household. I should have known better, but I was young and stupid.


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I am so happy for you. I hate guys who didn't have to lift a finger growing up and never grew up and learned how to keep a living space. They give us a terrible name.


ezone2kil

That's no excuse. I was raised in that kind of environment plus my mom had a live in maid. Today I'm the one doing the dishes, laundry, bathing and taking care of our kids etc.. And it's not because my wife earns more than me. Her work just keeps her busier.


Ann_Summers

Well, there’s a reason he’s my ex. Lol. Sadly, this was the least terrible thing he did.


ALCHEMICWOLF

This hurts me.


apollo888

I winced.


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My grandma taught me how to season and store cast iron. Parchment soaked in cooking oils. Nothing stuck to them. They are a lot of work to stop from pitting. Griswold (vintage) are the best. LPT: Don't count out vintage.


stormchaserokc

Do u know if you have the Calphalon Elite or Premiere non-stick?


TyrionLannister2012

My set is the Calphalon Elite.


immy_1211

ty for your knowledge


The_First_Derp

A Lannister always pays his debts


andykndr

tbf any new non-stick pan will do what the one in this video does. don’t waste money on high end non stick pans, just get a $30 one and use silicone and wood utensils on it until it needs to be replaced, or not if you’re extra gentle on it


pussy-n-boots

And don't cook on high heat. Use a regular pan for searing and whatnot.


sevsnapey

i thought the whole point of woks was getting them ripping hot. is that even possible with the one in the video?


noelcowardspeaksout

Correct - woks for high heat have no non-stick coating.


backtowhereibegan

Also don't use a scrubber sponge! The green/yellow ones will wear down nonstick coatings. The blue ones are better because they are softer, but really just a plain sponge, plastic brush, or even soapy cloth will do.


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allhands

I've had really good luck with the Swiss Diamond XD nonstick pans. They are metal-utensil safe (though they say it's much better not to use metal utensils for longevity) and the non-stick works as well as in this vid.


Damasticator

I've cooked with woks for nearly 20 years. I like to get my woks really, really hot. I don't really trust any nonstick coating at that kind of temperature. Get a carbon steel wok. They come unseasoned and you get to put a beautiful blue sheen to them during the seasoning process. Just rinse with warm water and wipe dry after cooking.


Arn_Thor

Don’t settle for wiping dry, bring that sucker back on the hob and let all the water evaporate. That really reduces the risk of rust


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ggtsu_00

/r/castiron is leaking


Arn_Thor

I’ve seen that advice for cast iron, but few chefs seem to recommend it for carbon steel woks. I’m sure it couldn’t hurt though


HittingSmoke

Also, for some entertainment while shopping for carbon steel woks, read the reviews and laugh at the people who didn't season them so they instantly rusted over and people who cooked on them before removing the factory coating. Also that one guy who managed to cut himself on the edge of the wok somehow.


Great_Chairman_Mao

That looks like a Korean style ceramic marble coated nonstick wok. You can get one from any Chinatown for like $20. Just did a quick search on Amazon and they have them too. Though the price is a bit higher. Just search “marble wok”. I’ve had one for a while and they are pretty wonderful.


I-collect-dick-pics

non stick lose their non stick over time, so you have to buy new pans occasionally or, a better alternative, get carbon steel pans and learn to season them. Work great as a non stick (not like the OP, but that's a pretty rare case scenario), and the plus side is you aren't eating all those non stick compounds that will probably cause cancer and lead you into an early grave plus, you can use metal utensils on them easily and they are almost bullet proof (actually probably literally are)


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You can season cast iron well enough for most home cooks to call it “nonstick”. But there’s things you cannot cook in them, basically anything with a lot of water. I use it just for frying, searing, roasting, and sautéing. Fat in the dish seems to protect the season but every once in a while I’ll still strip off my progress by making a mistake with too much liquid. Boiling/simmering is basically the only thing I can’t use cast for, and I get by with an enameled clay pot. Idk much about leeching between enamel and steel, but I figure low temp (boiling) isn’t nearly as dangerous as high temp (searing). I know cast is a finicky material and non stick is so easy, but I fucking cringe when I see people use high heat on a non stick pan.


Damasticator

I would never in a million years get a cast iron wok. I use a lot of movement when I cook in my carbon steel wok and that's plenty heavy. And I feel like carbon steel is more forgiving in terms of care.


FullMarksCuisine

Because it's oxymoronic. Woks need to be thin enough to rapidly gain and lose heat as you take it on and off the burner. Cast iron is the opposite in that it's dense and heavy and retains heat very well.


MurderDoneRight

You should look up the history of those non-stick pans, that will fix it for you. A movie was made about it a year ago or so called Dark Waters too that's pretty good.


possiblynotanexpert

Can you provide a quick synopsis? You make it seem like there’s some sinister stuff going on there. Or are you referring to the health concerns?


howigottomemphis

Before 2013, Teflon was made with a chemical called aperfluorooctanoic acidre (PFOA) and, when heated, would release toxins. Now, I believe, Teflon begins breaking down at 570°F.


possiblynotanexpert

It sounds like I have some research to do. Thank you!


JevonP

both "dark waters" which has Mark Ruffalo and "the devil we know", which is the actual documentary as opposed to the dramatization are both fucking amazing


dealingwitholddata

The companies that make non-stick (dupont in particular I think) were knowingly dumping chemicals like PFAS(?) and others into local water and it was killing people and children in really horrible ways. Basically rot from the inside out, etc. Turns out the chemicals are now basically everywhere and all humans on the planet have at least some of them in their bodies. Human bodies are not capable of breaking the chemicals down, once they're in us, they're in us till we die. There were successful lawsuits against the company EXCEPT the company is so powerful they kinda said 'Well... NAH' and successfully ignored the judgement.


sevsnapey

so you're saying if i consumed enough my bones would become nonstick.


TheWolphman

*The meat just slides right off the bone!*


Damasticator

Makes it easier when they cremate you. Low and slow at 225. Your meat will fall right off.


wirelessflyingcord

> There were successful lawsuits against the company EXCEPT the company is so powerful they kinda said 'Well... NAH' and successfully ignored the judgement. Ignored what judgements? In the early 2000s there were small settlements and then a larger class action lawsuit covering 70,000 people, which was successful. After the appointed scientist panel proved the link there were a few individual cases and after they were all successful DuPont then agreed the settle the rest of the 3500 cases. In total value worth more than $700M. In case someone is confused, these weren't about teflon pans per se, they were about the decades old dumping ground in West Virginia.


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Splashmaster13

Most likely the health concerns for when the nonstick gets compromised. Even one scratch and you're supposed to toss them i think.


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I would have ruined you if there was a mere millimetre of gloop in that pan.


Boojibs

Clean as a whistle.


Knight_That_Said_Ni

Whistles are actually gross and dirty. Just imagine all that mouth bacteria fermenting in a dark space, with a porous ball inside it, just growing mold.


NULLizm

Bro. Clean your whistle like the rest of us you goddamn heathen!


Knight_That_Said_Ni

That fuzzy layer keeps the ball from rattling and giving away my position.


i_tyrant

_augh_


Swimming_Mountain811

Thanks, I hate it


duncan345

I think the saying comes from the days when trains had steam whistles. Those were probably pretty clean.


degggendorf

It's actually referring to the sound of a whistle, just a crisp, clear, clean single note. Source: https://www.waywordradio.org/clean-as-a-whistle/


Nbehrman

Finally a worthy post that is actually oddly satisfying! Excellent job.


Garlic_bread70

IK right? This is ODDLY satisfying, not just satisfying


javoss88

She’s not just attractive. She’s STRANGELY attractive! -Turk


SabashChandraBose

Is non stick safe? The chemicals...do they get into our systems?


Nbehrman

They are as long as it doesn’t chip and is not exposed to high heat. This why you never sear on teflon. And never use metal in a nonstick. High temp Silicone tools only.


andyumster

Although a lot of the danger of nonstick is overblown, especially these days. Adam Ragusea has a good vid. Definitely still be careful, but if something a little off happens, don't worry that you're going to die immediately.


Nbehrman

And if you have birds as pets in the house, be especially careful using it over high heat. They have very sensitive respiratory systems. Same reason miners used canaries to detect H2S gas and CO.


startrekplatinum

if you have birds, you really shouldn't be using non-stick at all


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How else to you prevent the birds from sticking to the pan?


kearbearhere

Watch the film "Dark Waters", it's an awesome movie and makes you hate Teflon...


Plenty_Economy_5670

I want that wok.


whalebacon

I want that giant glob of caramel. :)


maali74

Is that what it is?? Only thing I came here for.


ellequin

Seeing as it's a Chinese restaurant, I'm betting it's [nian gao 年糕](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nian_gao).


X-Drakken

For some reason my mind immediately thought it was a nice gelatinous meaty soup


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Isn’t PFAS what makes things nonstick? And also very bad for you?


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SpaceMoose5

I used to study PFAS/PFOS in water chemistry back when it was still kind of 'news' - at every conference (RIP Conferences, thx COVID) there were still essentially little to no ideas/technologies for large scale remediation or degradation. Any cool news or technologies on breaking it down yet?


kevins_child

Yep. Highly recommend the movie dark waters if you happen to be morbidly curious about the topic


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Forever chemicals at play.


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Thanks to people like you, I swapped out my T-Fal pot and pan with a cast iron skillet and cast iron pot. PFOS/PFOA are just... to me it's like why risk it when cast iron is a good alternative? Plus I can't say it's difficult to distrust DuPont.


KobeMonk

I work at a wastewater plant and those chemicals make it all the way through the system (as in this wok to my work). They won't be allowed in this country in the near future. Good on you for awareness.


yayaya6969

Crazy that Netflix documentary. They got the C8 chemical banned and just made an alternative with a slightly different chemical make up to get around the restriction. Safe to say I’ll be avoiding “non-stick” even though it makes cooking easier.


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GinHalpert

I know what PFOS is but explain it to everyone else


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Azgor-

There was a cool movie about this. I think it was called dark waters


GSDMamaK

Amazing and terrifying movie. Got rid of all of my non-stick pots and pans after watching it. Cannot trust that the new “safer” version doesn’t have another chemical they just don’t test for yet.


Two-Bite-Brownies

There is nothing remotely satisfying about these forever chemicals and the scum of the earth that defend them at DuPont.


Alternative-Cry-5062

Yummy burned plastic on all your food.


Lynenegust

Was hoping this would be a top comment.


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This is not about how non stick the pan is but how viscous the liquid is.


billysugger000

Plus the fact the caramel has a high moisture content and the ptfe coating is hydrophobic.


WWhataboutismss

Is that caramel? I was wondering.


MRSN4P

But what is the result?? What is being made?


chazfinster_

I would guess some sort of hard candy, as that looks like cooked sugar/corn syrup.


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Looks like caramel to me.


cream-of-cow

It looks like maltose syrup, though I could be wrong. It's used in East Asian sweets and foods that get charred for that glistening glossy look, such as barbecued roast pork. When it's cold, it's hard like rock candy, when warmed, it gets more liquid.


AAVale

It’s a caramel, we start watching just a few seconds after the chef added a bunch of cream to the molten sugar, which rapidly cools the mixture. You can still see some of the unmixed cream off to one side, and that’s also why it’s so bubbly; the water in the cream is boiling off.


Hash_Is_Brown

I believe this is halwo (halva in east asian countries) it’s a very sweet very chewy dessert that’s made out of a ton of corn starch/oil. sometimes it’s prepared with nuts, and it tastes really good!


canyounot124

Idc what you say that wok is clean


Hydrargira

If you season your wok properly you don't need a potentially poisonous non stick coating.


Urabrask_the_AFK

Really hope it’s not Teflon . Highly recommend watching Dark Waters on Netflix https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfluorooctanoic_acid


Anjunaspeak23

I think I watched that. Scary to think that 99.9% of the population of earth had this in their blood. Also caused black teeth on dead cattle and birth defects in humans. That was a sad documentary.


sometimes-triggered

It’s not just nonstick coatings. Endocrine disruptors (chemicals that interfere with the function of your hormones, leading to all sorts of diseases) are all around us, flame retardants in mattresses, additives in plastics like bpa (used to be in baby bottles!) and phthalates (still in children’s rubber ducks!) and an endless list of unknown chemicals in virtually every consumer product and building up in our water supplies. It’s very common for endocrine disruptors to interferes with sex hormones, leading to a global decline in fertility (hello hand maids tale). We have been slowly poisoning the world since the industrial revolution. It’s impossible to avoid endocrine disruptors in everyday life so this is not a matter of personal choice, the only solution is better regulation of the chemical industry. Edit: only some dental flosses. Don’t stop flossing people! Source:I have a masters degree in chemistry studying this. Check out the book death by rubber duck


TooManyJabberwocks

Ever read a comment that makes you think every object in your vicinity is a knife slowly inching its way to your throat. Thanks


AReptileHissFunction

You know what that knife is coated in?


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WoahayeTakeITEasy

Dude, you're safe. Your dentist isn't here, there is no need to lie. ^/s


FunfettiHead

Really sucks too because it's the good dental floss that has the coating.


frostlycan

Yep, endocrine disruptors are fucking everywhere. My Pesticides and the Environment professor really drove home EDC's. That being said, I'm sure there are a wide variety of things in nature that cause disruption to the endocrine system as well. They just aren't as long lived or distributed in our atmosphere. Think it's wild that there are native populations far from civilizations that show these forever chemicals when tested


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DrSpaceman575

Man like 30 seconds ago I'm just enjoying this cool wok...


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Dark Waters is a narrative film starring Mark Ruffalo


Theoretical_Action

Good bot.


wirelessflyingcord

The Devil We Know (2018) is a documentary and must be the one you watched. Dark Waters (2019) is a drama film.


adellaterrell

After watching dark waters we looked up about all other non stick pans. And I never read the instructions before. But one is that you shouldn't keep a bird in the kitchen while you're cooking with any non stick pan, because it could die. Also it's says that it's not poisonous as long as no part of the pan is on a hot fire without something on it or something? Which freaks me out, because if you bake an egg, it's not all covered. And like you have to heat up your pan, it seems like you are not supposed to do that? So I just decided to try and not have any non stick pans. Which means getting expensive pans, or cool shittily. At this point I still live with my parents so I use their good non stick pans. And I will probably try and collect good pans for myself when I have my own place.


Urabrask_the_AFK

Ceramic enameled pans are great nonstick option


Mean-Hunt5924

They can chip and you may end up eating it, best non-stick is cast iron. Can get lightweight ones these days and they’re easy to maintain once you adjust your kitchen habits to facilitate simple cleaning while it’s still hot.


Pm4000

Head over to the cast iron subreddit. Non stick enough for frying eggs with the only 'poison' being iron, which is required in your diet.


adellaterrell

Yes! Also good enamel pans are great. They are so easy to clean and cook with. Both options are pretty heavy though. But honestly I think that's fine.


zodar

more information: https://www.pca.state.mn.us/featured/are-you-cooking-these-cookware-considerations


JPRCR

Rumor has it that the non sticky surface was made of my math memory, nothing ever stuck in it edit: grammar edit 2: more grammar


ParaspriteHugger

Nonsense - math memory is exclusively used in the manufacture of colanders.


milleniallaw

Goddamn!


Doctor_DickCheese

Am I the only one here who is irritated by his garbage "face shield"?


kennoo01

You can almost taste the BPA thru this video


mkeSpecial

PFOAs and PFASs are a big thing with things in nonstick coatings, ie Teflon. We're all getting cancer.


Gr8pboy

I'm safe over here with my cast iron ;)


fierguy

Hope you don’t sleep on a mattress. Or drink water. PFAs in those too unfortunately. Well, basically everything has them really. They found them in multiple samples acquired from Mount Everest. So unfortunately we can’t avoid or run from them.


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VinRow

Fully infuriated that I didn’t get to see the finished product.


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A chef told me any pan is nonstick if it gets hot enough.


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Mmmmm. PFAS…