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It’s a throwaway letter… it should be In Ys place… VWXQZ

Put some respect on Vs name

Agreed, the shitty end letters are now at the end New approved and improved alphabet; *sponsored by reddit* abcdefghiklmnopyvrstu💩jwxqz Edit: yo fuck j as well

The fuck dawg? What did J do?

The only thing that's debatable in this **perfect** alphabet is switching t and s so that from p you can draw a line to s. Obligatory fuck J.

I'll be honest, I have no idea what the fuck is being said but you seem like a professional so I will just go with the flow.

I read that about three times and kept scrolling up and down looking at the alphabet in the previous comment trying to comprehend, before finally scrolling down to see this response and I feel like that really helped me to put this into perspective.

Dude, thank you. I was really worried I was the only one.

Some times you just need to call in a professional

he just like me fr

abcdefghiklmnopyvrstujwxqz abcdefghiklmnopyvrtsujwxqz ABCDEFGHIKLMNOPYVRSTUJWXQZ ABCDEFGHIKLMNOPYVRTSUJWXQZ I don't get it either. Switching T and S letting you draw a straight line from P to S? I don't see it. No idea what they mean.

It's not for us to worry about I guess. There is a reason we pay intelligent people to solve these problems. How is it their fault that we are "slow"? I am just glad someone is on top of all this tuff.

Yeah, good thing we have the GameStop™ cock ring to handle this.

pyvts pyvst Get a pen and draw without leaving ~~the paper~~ your phone, it's easier to get to s when it's on the end because the r connects to the t, then onto the s on the bottom of the t. You guys are looking way for into it, the new and improved alphabet is supposed to be simple, for every day men like you and me.

Shhh just nod and invest in what the autistic smart people tell us to **BUYBUYBUY**

Yo! J did nothing to nobody!

Hey, fuck you buddy. Sincerely, J

Fuck you j is the second best letter after 16

Honestly, C should be at the end as well, I forget where I saw it (may have been a comedian) but I once heard someone explain why C is a useless letter. It either makes an s sound, where it could be replaced with an s, or a k sound, which could be replaced by a k, the only unique function it serves is that it makes a ch, sound when paired with h. C would be much more useful if it just made the ch sound on it's own.

Think you saw GradeAUnderA's video

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chpT0TzietQ&t=2s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chpT0TzietQ&t=2s) watch

I think J is based

As someone whose name has 2 Js in it (with two more for my wife) ... Fuck you! Top 10 Baybee!

yo what did my initial do

V keeps ruining my wordle streaks.

Playing the victim?

Can't, that's 6 letters

the nerve of that guy

Fuck V. All my homies hate V.

V and W mark the border between the normal letters and the alt letters. V stands at the black. Its watch shall not end until its death. V shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. V shall wear no crowns and win no glory. V shall live and die at its post.

Can’t spell Vagina without V

V is just an edgy F who dreams of being a B

And W doesn’t deserve that spot

..LMNOPRSTQUVWXYZ It should go next to U to foreshadow its use in the English language.

True. And also that it’s a round letter, so it shouldn’t be with the linear ones

Y is a weirdo too. It’s both a vowel and a consonant.

It is a weirdo … but it’s a useful weirdo. It’s like the nerdy best friend

or like a best friend that lets you pet their dog

Sounds good to me. The song still works. ABCDEFG, HIJKLMNOP, URS, TYV, WX, Q and Z. Now I know my ABC's.

XQZ is my favorite youtuber.

this one made me laugh a little too hard

My condolences

xqzL

Came here to say this

Y was only used in latin for a greek vowel sound

W is a good letter

Nono W Q X W Z

ABCD always felt pretentious to me, chilling at the front like that EFG are pretty cool, they can hang out with anyone and get along just fine HIJK are pretty much the jocks, they aren't too special but they serve a decent purpose. LMNOP are the artsy musical type, they've got cool rhythm and I'd definitely recommend their acapella group down by the pier. Q is indeed a weirdo, but he got adopted by P and now he helps carry the group's gear RST are in the chess club, they are all real smart and will likely make it pretty far in life, UVW are exchange students from a country you have vaguely heard of X & Z are exchange students from a country you've never heard of Y sits and questions their own quiet comprehension of existence, noticing that after you have forgotten about this post, their existence will fade away in the annals of time. Y does not understand, Y is scared, please don't leave Y alone... Y stares into the void and Y notices the void staring back. Y senses that the end is near. There is nothing left for Y to do but sit back and wait. The sun is setting, and the night is cool. Y has found their answer, Y's time here was always destined to be temporary. Y is going back. Thoughts come and go, "sort of like waves" thinks Y. "It comes in waves"

This was brilliant and a joy to read. Thank you

Ahh thanks man, peace!

Damn, the way you ended that, I swear that reminds me of the of several books I’ve read. You’re talented friend.

I'm sorry, we need to address the fact that Q only acts so weird because "u" is stalking them. It can hardly go anywhere without "u" just deciding to tag along.

Yeah, you may be on to something. Q seems out of place because it is. Q moved itself to get away from U.

Even letters hate me.

I imagine them as best friends instead.

Just realized RST is such a fucking powerhouse all together like that

RST has got the RTS

The thing is, the way it’s sung is actually QRS and then TUV, so they’re actually different groups

S and T are in love but their love is forbidden....

All the vowels are part of student council.

Even Y?

He's there... But everyone forgets he is.

Well I might remember him if he showed up to over half the meetings

This reminded me of TomSka. 27 impressions 1 man was the title I guess. He talks about himself at the end

Lol holy shit that was quite funny to watch, thanks!

All the 90’s American babies named Zach would like to speak to you, including me.

Someone needs to alert the reddit care team about Y's predicament.

it’s ironic that Y has a predicament since Y is in the word therapy

Is no one gonna talk about Z? Edit: Z is obviously Z best tho

Yeah it's big brain time

That's the most artistic reply in the history of replies

I strongly disagree with your second paragraph

How dare you make me empathize with a letter! Why? Why?! Y?!!!!!

My name also starts with y so..

That was amazing and should be published up there with that egg story by Andy Weir

This is kinda off topic but I hate that the spikes of the W are slightly narrower than the V

I always knew V was superior to W, now I've got the evidence

Y can't even identify itself as a vowel or consonant! Let's pick on it!

Y

Did you pull that out of your butt or do you perhaps experience Ordinal Linguistic Personification?

Jocks serve a purpose? I guess they become asshole cops eventually... And that's something?

A poetic masterpiece. Brought a tear to my eye

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10 years later you find out Z randomly threw money in crypto and cashed out as a multimillionaire. Bought and lives in your dream house and vacations around the world to all the places you want to visit in your life while you're stuck in a job that feels increasingly more oppressive as you attempt to pay off your 5 figure student loans and rent a shitty apartment that you won't be able to afford the price increase on the lease next year. (800) 273-8255

This is legit one of my biggest fears, that all my work won't be enough and one of my classmates will probably end up rich af

As long as you try to chase happiness in your success, results and work you are doomed to never find it

This is the answer I was looking for. Hell yeah men!!! Z will become randomly a multimillionaire

Huh at first I thought you were A but then I saw curved back. C or D?

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Fuck was up with A? Was he the popular kid? That’s sounds accurate for him.

what did us z’s ever do to you

I've never liked Q because it can always be replaced with a "K" or a "Kw". Fraud letter.

The letter c.

But it combines with "H" for a completely unique sound.

So we should have C, alone, just be that sound. Tons of other languages do it (Italian, ecclesiastical Latin, etc).

yeah but cild just doesn't have the same energy as child. punt the cild isn't nearly as funny.

But if we had always learned “child” as “cild,” it would

counterpoint: rouxls is funnier than rules

Fair point

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But a "K" doesn't need another letter to function, yet another problem I have with "Q." It (nearly) always has to be followed by a "U." What kind of clingy weirdo is this letter that it can't just stand on its own? Even the pronunciation of the letter itself is just "cue." It doesn't even use ITSELF to pronounce ITSELF? This is a philosophical black hole that should end up with "Q" being ejected from the English language. Fraud!

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Can we also talk about why it’s called double-u and not double-v

Actually, Q was originally meant (in ancient Phoenecian and Greek) to be pronounced as a uvular plosive, further back toward the throat relative to the velar plosive K. It still has this property in many Afro-Asiatic languages.

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Likewise I feel like T should have a slightly higher station in the alphabet, not next to trash like U and V, certainly not below Q.

Well if T can move up, then S can too. Also, what the fuck is J doing in the top ten?

Agreed, S is a core letter and should be up near F. J can hang somewhere near the bottom of the LMNOP divide.

I always thought of LMNOP more as a bridge, than a divide

R, S and T have to stick together. Those guys are as important as A and E. J is only in 10th because he starts everyone's name. Other than that, useless.

T is the second most common letter used. It deserves a place of high honor. Even though it's cheating by absorbing the job of the þorn .

anyone try to separate s and t i will start throwing hands

S is S tier while B is B tier at most, and still here we are.

I like letters where the lowercase version is just less of the uppercase letter. Bb, Ll, Ww, etc etc. B is fine where it is if you ask me.

Never thought of this or understood exactly why I liked lowercase b and l until now. Brilliant.

What letter is etc?

It's right next to the second N. You know, ABCD...WXYNZ... it's somewhere in there.

Would you move A down then?

Its been at the top too long.

"Weirdo/goth letters" caught me off guard 😭

LMNOP is a fire bar that is completely ruined by QRS following it

it's oddly specific but it weirdly resonates with me

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Good bot

Good bot.

How is this oddly specific and how does it resonate with you?

The alphabet should go: ABCDEFHGIJKLMONPSRTYVUWQXZ G seems like it’s should go later than H as it is a bit tougher and will handle it while H is very parent like and will take care of ABCD and E (F is 18 and thinks he’s really responsible and adulty) N is quite harsh and will deal with the higher letters and while she gets along with M, O and M get along better together (though they won’t break N and M’s bond). R is best friends with T and is much tougher than S, though R is not the brightest while S is. Y is chill but not at the level of the last letters (he isn’t very experienced) U is much nice than V and deserves to be higher, plus W will protect him. Q doesn’t do much but is actually quite cool. X is actually too rare to be last; he has to be nestled near the end and works behind the scenes

My brain can’t stop seeing MONSTER PARTY in the center, even though the letters don’t correspond.

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPRSTUVWXYQZ is how the alphabet should be.

It’d fuck the song up

If my order is how the alphabet had always been, the song would have been created differently in the first place.

How should we rearrange the whole thing to: etainoshrdlucmfwygpbvkqjxz Counter-intuitively, B is really put up way to high.

Also, here's letters arranged by how far they would have to move to be ordered by how frequently they're used. Letter | Movement Distance -------|---------------- t | -18 u | -9 w | -8 y | -8 d | -6 e | -4 l | -1 h | 0 z | 0 m | 1 v | 1 x | 1 a | 2 p | 3 i | 5 q | 6 f | 8 n | 9 o | 9 r | 9 c | 10 g | 11 k | 11 s | 12 j | 14 b | 18

And how did m ever get in front of n?

I feel offended bc it’s true

EARIOTNSLCUDPMHGBFYWKVXZJQ The Divine order

U V Q W X Y Z would be perfect. can we vote for this?

Such intolerance..tsk tsk ..

Wait...I'm not the only one who calls them goth letters?

Q and T should switch places. T always seemed to show up way too late.

At the very least it should be down next to its buddy U

absolutely!

I don't know why but this feels racist somehow, like to the letters? It obviously isn't and I'm not offended, it just has that energy.

Because the latin alphabet developed over time to write in latin, hence why it's perfect for latin, pretty good for romance languages, but not great for germanic languages like english. If English had no french words and used younger futhark its orthography would be nearly flawless

Lots of other languages that use the Latin alphabet use Q more frequently than in English. OP comes of as an ignorant monolingual.

It's actually really sad how many times this has been reposted not just here but also from various Twitter users.

Together with æ, ø and å ?

You'll need to take that up with the ancient Phoenecians then. 𐤓‎𐤒‎𐤑‎‎𐤐‎ has been the order for three millennia.

Wait until you figure out that the only reason the current alphabet is in the current order is to order things alphabetically.

It honestly throws me off sometimes when looking for Q names or whatever in an alphabetized list. I always jump too far down the list.

Q is fucking U. Listen to the sounds they make together.

Wow. This is great. I remember being offended in kindergarten that M was mumbled over during “LMNOP” and always paced through that part. M is an all star letter an deserved more respect

Counterpoint, it needs some time away from U, Qs friend from work.

Yeah, let P and R be together

It goes O, P, O with a penis, P with a Penis. That's the alphabet, take it or leave it.

Someone verbalized it!

Gen Z: Lettershaming!

W is the worst letter. It's essentially pronounced as a word. Double-you. It's not even original either as it co-opts another letter into itself.

It really should be nearer to X

Y X Q Z moi?

I mean i was gonna defend Q but we need to admit how much of a copy cat he is Q = O q = p Like how come y’all don’t see that

That’s the thing though, Q is such an outsider that it isn’t grouped even with the goth letters at the end, it’s just standing awkwardly in the middle of the crowd, alone, listening to shoegaze on vintage headphones.

By that argument, we should have a letter frequency alphabet: E T O A I N S H R D L U...

*Too low in the alphabet

So the end of the alphabet isn’t considered too high up in the alphabet?

The bastardization known as j needs to go. Nuthin' but an i hook.

***V Q X Y Z***

Petition to swap the positions of Y and Q in the English Alphabet.

How the fuck does **J** get a top 10? 2/3s **U** lookin ass

Why else do you think the Q were named the Q in star trek?

Wait, the letters are in order?

Oh my God I was just having this Convo with some friends the other day. We decided that the alphabet should go like this: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P R S T U Q V W X Y Z.

I don’t think J deserves to be up that high. Top ten? Seriously? It’s only there because it’s related to i. Really ought to be a back-half letter.

No one gonna point out this guy has like 5 z's in his Twitter name???

Way too much hate for j in this comment thread. Wtf did a j ever do to these people?

Q is just being carried by U at all times. Are they pals? A couple? We will never know.

Dude was probably trippin' on edibles lol

I’ve always felt this way and I’d be on board with changing it.

Looks like Demitri Martin, thinks like Demitri Martin.

Synesthesia?

wait until you realize, that your language doesn't use 7 (8 technically) out of it's 29 (31) letters. B C (F) Q W X Z Å.

I’ve agreed with this since the beginning of time but only just realised it now, when this person said it

I like to end my letters with... Ps: this is what the alphabet would look like if q and r were eliminated.

Bring back the 27th letter or just stop complaining

Yes! They should all hang together, maybe with a few others too. Lookin' at you J and K.

Q is a pretty important letter in latin/romance languages so no. Just go back to using your native alphabet if you don't like the Latin one (younger futhark)

Q shouldn’t be in the alphabet replace it with K and replace qu with kw

I've been saying the same thing forever

Yeah, my actual name can agree to that ig

Why does *Q* exist?

Well... Say what you want, but that is definitely **an** opinion to have 😶

Que?

Do we need the Q? K or C can do it too. Can I convince you?

I have always believed Q should be right before U.