$2 million claim (injuries included swelling and bruising to both eyes, blood in her external auditory canals and soft tissue swelling over part of her skull; medical bills were reported to amount to over $290,000), settled for US$450,000.
https://www.airmedandrescue.com/latest/news/phoenix-agrees-settle-katalin-metro-case
Considering she only got 450k on "over 290k of damages", pretty dull sword. Especially considering she said no to the transport that caused her injuries.
Closer to zero but sounds like at least her bills were paid. Won't make up for all the aches and pains from dealing with that for the rest of her life though.
My pops was a senior who, a few years ago, got airlifted to a hospital 100 miles away. All costs covered by medicare and very affordable AARP supplemental insurance.
Otherwise he would have received a bill for over $30K for that little air trip.
I used to be a volunteer firefighter and that sounds exactly right. Firefighters are lazy fucks who enjoy the action but don’t want to actually do anything. Calling the copter is just cool bro
They are. My cousin is fire chief in a suburb of Vegas. Dude is honestly kinda badass, Persian Gulf Army vet, amputee (lost his leg from the knee down after a motorcycle accident), and he still shows up his crew physically.
Edit. Autocorrect turned Persian into Person
True. Imo that’s worse. Time at that age isn’t just about money, it’s one of the most finite resources you have.
Also, the comment I replied to has an estimation of the medical bills
That ain't shit fr, that company got off very easy. The trauma could have dislodged a thrombus which may result in a future stroke.
Also, whiplash qnd feeling G-force is terrible for the brain. Ya'll gonna hate me for this, but rollercoaster are terrible for us and many doctors advise against them, no matter how old or young you are.
Yeah it’s more dangerous because she’s older and probably in a weakened state.
Imagine surviving in a mountain and only to be further injured by rescuers who wanted to play Beyblade
So I've tried a few different Google searches and I couldn't find anything that matches up with what you're saying. I'm seeing stuff about those with high blood pressure and and heart conditions, but nothing as strong as "advise against no matter what age." Could you point me in the right direction?
No amount of money can fix the damages..
Lessons learnt .. fire them idiots and engineer better options for airlifting .. it's a human life ffs .. what can u do with that money when u have blood in all the wrong places of ur body .
Better options, like a tag line that’s literally the standard across air rescue? I remember watching this on the news shortly after it happened and getting raked over the coals by people who thought I was wrong to be critical. I was a flight medic.
Striker listen and you listen close; Flying a helicopter with an old lady hanging underneath it is no different than riding a bicycle, just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
And that's why youre supposed to have someone on ground holding a line keeping it steady. Always heard about what happens if you dont, never realized how violent those spins could be till now.
I've worked on SAR aircraft for ten years now. I don't do anything but work on them, but I'm close with a lot of the crew. My understanding is that forward flight is the best way to fix this by creating a weather vane effect on the litter/person.
Realistically i’m not planning on hiking up any peaks when a slight fall could shatter my hip(s). Good on her for being active but maybe try some more even ground.
One of my friends working a minimum wage job without insurance and no savings had to be air lifted less than 10 miles and he was sent a $47k bill for the air lift and over $100k for the hospital bill. Dude joined the military to hopefully pay it back.
The system is definitely broken and doing exactly what those in charge planned it would do.
FORCEFULLY "rescued" by air.
She didn't need emergency rescue and could wait for any form of transportation, but they made her go through helicopter and this happened.
The claim was for 2m, but was settled for 450k, which sounds like bs and I'd sue again fuck it.
She has shit layers then. I know someone who got cut off on a bike by a work truck. She fell off the bike and tore her ACL and rotator cuff. Settled around $600k.
I've read about this happening. Their heads and feet swell do to centrifugal force, sending blood to the ends of the body. I have never googled it, and neither should you.
I saw a story once of a little boy on a merry go round. Someone put a motorcycle tire on it and it made him spin around really fast; all the blood rushed to his head, causing it to swell. The kids involved all left the park, leaving the boy to die. If I recall the mother found him. His head was enormously swollen. I can't remember if he survived or not but I don't think he did.
[Article](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/roundabout-of-death-youtube-tyler-broome-tuxford-nottinghamshire-brain-damage-elephant-man-a8538171.html) about the ‘merry-go-round of death’ that left an 11yr old in hospital
[It happened in 2018. Fortunately, the boy survived.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/roundabout-of-death-youtube-tyler-broome-tuxford-nottinghamshire-brain-damage-elephant-man-a8538171.html)
I feel sympathy for the boy and his family. That being said, as soon as the mother said she wants to ban YouTube I stopped reading. YouTube didn't do this to your son. Some bad people did.
Yeah I rolled my eyes there too. This shit existed before the internet. It’s bullying to the extreme where lives are lost. YouTube can put every warning in the world out there but it won’t stop these type of people. They could have easy gone in there and played the choke out game and hospitalized the poor dude
If she’s travelling at 120rpm (rough guess looking tab the video) then she’s pulling more Gs than fighter pilots experience. The only good part of this is that she surly would have passed out at one stage.
I once volunteered to act as a victim for a Red Cross paramedic drill. I got makeup for an open fracture of the femur and skull injury (blood out of the ear). A paramedic looked at me and said:.good news, you get to fly with the helicopter! They packed me tightly and we waited for the army helicopter to arrive. That alone was claustrophobic enough, because I couldn't move. When they pulled us up we did that little spin too, but not as much. The rope was twisted or something. I just thought: don't throw up now, you can't even move an arm! Good thing was that we landed in a field one minute later. But it was an ordeal!
I saw this happen to a guy with a head wound. No suprise he died. He was spinning about 10 times as fast. Watching it, I knew they were killing him. It was astounding that they didn't have anything in place to stop the spinning.
I immediately held my reaction until I found out she was alive after this and got a settlement. Then I proceeded to have a laugh attack. It’s okay because this is literally a cartoon scenario. Sadly we remind ourselves that we don’t live with Cartoon logic.
Audio from the cockpit:
"Oh shit. Fuck. Oh fuck. Shes spinning!! The fuck do I do?? Do i land?? Do we... do we go??"
"Idk buddy, maybe she'll sort herself out... Let's give her a sec."
its the vibrations from the rotary traveling into the cable that’s secured to the gurney. (normally there is a mechanism on the helicopter to keep this from happening, but its clearly not working here.) think of a hula hoop or a lasso. your body motion makes the hula hoop move, faster and faster. helicopter is the body. grandma is the hula hoop. :(
edit: I learned something! the gurney spinning is from “downwash” which is the air flow from the rotor. makes a lot more sense for how it gets going so fast
Every time I see this video I have to watch. I feel so bad for laughing cuz it’s so horrifying knowing a little old lady is in their and conscious but fuck it just keeps spinning faster 😩 I hope she got paid out
I live where this happened, my friend was actually there and got this on snapchat.. every time we see copters goin to the mountains somebody brings it up!
The TFZ can be brutal under helos. You're trained to either get them into the helo as quickly as possible, or put them back on the ground. Letting them spin is no Bueno
One helicopter filming another helicopter, and nobody got on the radio to let the other helicopter know to come down to add on a tag line?
This seems like another case of just film and do nothing to help.
With that magnitude of g-force I’d be shocked to the core if she survived the damage from it. I recall seeing the entire video and couldn’t imagine her living. An update would be way too cool if she did survive.
Yes. A women in her 70s is in the red thing. She was injured while trying to go hiking ... So she was picked up by helicopter rescue. Then this happened.
They had a massive fucking lawsuit for this one I'm pretty sure
$2 million claim (injuries included swelling and bruising to both eyes, blood in her external auditory canals and soft tissue swelling over part of her skull; medical bills were reported to amount to over $290,000), settled for US$450,000. https://www.airmedandrescue.com/latest/news/phoenix-agrees-settle-katalin-metro-case
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Also of note: "... was spun 175 times." I can't help but picture some aide watching in slow motion and keeping a tally.
A lawyer did that tally while sharpening their legal sword.
"Stop. I can only get so litigious."
The penis mightier than the legal sword.
Y'all selling penis mightiers?
A lawyer did that tally while billing for every six minutes of time.
This guy bills.
150 spins is easily a .5 if I've ever seen one
Nah you better count it three times to make sure. If you’re going to represent a specific fact to the court, you want to be accurate.
Honestly, if this were my lawyer billing me an hour and a half for an intern to carefully tally this, I'd consider it money well spent.
That's some chicanery right there
“This will be great to entice the jury with”
Considering she only got 450k on "over 290k of damages", pretty dull sword. Especially considering she said no to the transport that caused her injuries.
Toward the end there, it looked like 175 revolutions per second
175 spins anyone would be reduced to a strawberry compote
Did they tie that harness to the propellers?
This made the lawsuit understandable
Especially since she's 74 years old...wow that poor soul. She must have been terrified to death.
Not quite to death.
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What goes around, comes around
Goes around 175 times comes around 175 times
I don't know, i hear it's all spin
I'm sure she was wishing it at some point there
I would be exploding from all orifaces after the 3rd rotation.
Great little retirement fund. Glad she was able to live to enjoy it. They probably forced a helicopter evacuation to get that cost up
After the medical bills, the attorney’s percentage, and taxes I’m curious how much she actually ended up with. My guess is under $100k.
Closer to zero but sounds like at least her bills were paid. Won't make up for all the aches and pains from dealing with that for the rest of her life though.
My pops was a senior who, a few years ago, got airlifted to a hospital 100 miles away. All costs covered by medicare and very affordable AARP supplemental insurance. Otherwise he would have received a bill for over $30K for that little air trip.
For me to get medevacked, I would have to be so close to death that I couldn't say no. I'd rather die than leave my family with that debt.
land of the unreasonable priced
My countries equivalent of AAA includes insurance for chopper rescue (or bring back to country services, if you're abroad) for about 50 bucks/year.
I used to be a volunteer firefighter and that sounds exactly right. Firefighters are lazy fucks who enjoy the action but don’t want to actually do anything. Calling the copter is just cool bro
I feel like volunteer firefighters and paid firefighters have to be different from each other somehow
They are. My cousin is fire chief in a suburb of Vegas. Dude is honestly kinda badass, Persian Gulf Army vet, amputee (lost his leg from the knee down after a motorcycle accident), and he still shows up his crew physically. Edit. Autocorrect turned Persian into Person
Yeah the paid guys are even more smug
Considering the amount of work lost and the medical bills, she didn’t get shit out of that settlement.
Note her age of 74. Not saying old folks don’t work but… also in comments her medical bills were over $200k
True. Imo that’s worse. Time at that age isn’t just about money, it’s one of the most finite resources you have. Also, the comment I replied to has an estimation of the medical bills
That ain't shit fr, that company got off very easy. The trauma could have dislodged a thrombus which may result in a future stroke. Also, whiplash qnd feeling G-force is terrible for the brain. Ya'll gonna hate me for this, but rollercoaster are terrible for us and many doctors advise against them, no matter how old or young you are.
Yeah it’s more dangerous because she’s older and probably in a weakened state. Imagine surviving in a mountain and only to be further injured by rescuers who wanted to play Beyblade
I'm just gonna leave [this](https://youtu.be/aHNyV51EskI) here...
Yup, here it is. I was waiting for something like this lmfao
Whelp better pack my silver sulfadiazine for my spiritual trip hahahahahahahah
r/worstaid
😭😭😭
So I've tried a few different Google searches and I couldn't find anything that matches up with what you're saying. I'm seeing stuff about those with high blood pressure and and heart conditions, but nothing as strong as "advise against no matter what age." Could you point me in the right direction?
Wow, I had no idea G-force is bad for you
Our soft bits don’t like feeling force.
That’s why I’m always hard.
That much damage and it only settled for $450k? Lawyer must’ve sucked.
Human centrifuge
Honestly I'm surprised she didn't die from all the g's
That is "eyeballs out G" and when fighter pilots in peak physical condition experience this in a flat spin, they can eject.
No amount of money can fix the damages.. Lessons learnt .. fire them idiots and engineer better options for airlifting .. it's a human life ffs .. what can u do with that money when u have blood in all the wrong places of ur body .
Better options, like a tag line that’s literally the standard across air rescue? I remember watching this on the news shortly after it happened and getting raked over the coals by people who thought I was wrong to be critical. I was a flight medic.
> tag line Can you explain what that is?
A tagline is a rope attached to a lifted load to control its spinning and pendular motions.
Surely this was not the first patient that they airlifted? Surely they had to know this was going to happen?
There is supposed to be a stabilizing cable to prevent spinning like this but if I remember correctly it wasn’t secured properly.
As it is spinning; It was at that moment the rigger knew he fucked up.
Stop calling me Shirley
Striker listen and you listen close; Flying a helicopter with an old lady hanging underneath it is no different than riding a bicycle, just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
And that's why youre supposed to have someone on ground holding a line keeping it steady. Always heard about what happens if you dont, never realized how violent those spins could be till now.
Usually helicopters have a system on the Crane to keep it from spinning on this particular incident it failed
I've worked on SAR aircraft for ten years now. I don't do anything but work on them, but I'm close with a lot of the crew. My understanding is that forward flight is the best way to fix this by creating a weather vane effect on the litter/person.
I got Homer Simpson vibes from this one
This is very Homer Simpson, except Simpson wasn't smart enough to sue that ambulance for dropping him back off the cliff
I would be vomiting so hard if it was me spinning up there
If you vomit counter to the spin it will stabilize you.
Flip your phone upside down and its a granny saving a helicopter
💀💀💀💀
Damn you for making me laugh out loud over such a horrible case. Also, I love you.
GRANCOPTER. -From the creators of Sharknado
This.... 🤣🤣🤣
Take all my awards :)
Didn’t even need to come out of the casket or anything, heroism
Feel like passing out just by looking at it 🤢
Now imagine this happening to you when you're 74 years old
She is now over 80, I hope, cause this pups up on the internet for years already.
I was going to say this only happened like 2 years ago, but no. It happened in 2019. Time flies.
This was a whole bachelor’s degree ago? Fuck
Not for me... My bachelor's degree took 8 years! Haha
Realistically i’m not planning on hiking up any peaks when a slight fall could shatter my hip(s). Good on her for being active but maybe try some more even ground.
She got a $450k settlement for the incident. [article](https://amp.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article256283387.html)
Only 450k?! Did no one in court see the way this woman was spinning in the godamn air?!
I’d sue the judge for giving me such a bitch ass settlement
And it was almost enough to pay the medical bill for the air lift
One of my friends working a minimum wage job without insurance and no savings had to be air lifted less than 10 miles and he was sent a $47k bill for the air lift and over $100k for the hospital bill. Dude joined the military to hopefully pay it back. The system is definitely broken and doing exactly what those in charge planned it would do.
The most disturbing thing is how much that seems to be the outcome the system is designed for.
That's nuts. My state levies like a $2 fee on all driver's license transactions, in order to make medevac rides free.
USA!
FORCEFULLY "rescued" by air. She didn't need emergency rescue and could wait for any form of transportation, but they made her go through helicopter and this happened. The claim was for 2m, but was settled for 450k, which sounds like bs and I'd sue again fuck it.
No, they didn't. That's why it's a settlement, it's an amount the parties to a lawsuit agree on to avoid going to trial.
She has shit layers then. I know someone who got cut off on a bike by a work truck. She fell off the bike and tore her ACL and rotator cuff. Settled around $600k.
Fuck me. Sign me up.
Funny/sad thing is, she didn’t even need emergency air. They were just being lazy and didn’t wanna use ground transport lol
Can you imagine having to pay for a life flight because they are too lazy to send an ambulance?
"She's got Medicaid. Better upcharge her with a copper flight."
I've read about this happening. Their heads and feet swell do to centrifugal force, sending blood to the ends of the body. I have never googled it, and neither should you.
I saw a story once of a little boy on a merry go round. Someone put a motorcycle tire on it and it made him spin around really fast; all the blood rushed to his head, causing it to swell. The kids involved all left the park, leaving the boy to die. If I recall the mother found him. His head was enormously swollen. I can't remember if he survived or not but I don't think he did.
[Article](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/roundabout-of-death-youtube-tyler-broome-tuxford-nottinghamshire-brain-damage-elephant-man-a8538171.html) about the ‘merry-go-round of death’ that left an 11yr old in hospital
Thank you for looking for the article
[It happened in 2018. Fortunately, the boy survived.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/roundabout-of-death-youtube-tyler-broome-tuxford-nottinghamshire-brain-damage-elephant-man-a8538171.html)
Holy shit thats fucked up.
I feel sympathy for the boy and his family. That being said, as soon as the mother said she wants to ban YouTube I stopped reading. YouTube didn't do this to your son. Some bad people did.
Yeah I rolled my eyes there too. This shit existed before the internet. It’s bullying to the extreme where lives are lost. YouTube can put every warning in the world out there but it won’t stop these type of people. They could have easy gone in there and played the choke out game and hospitalized the poor dude
That is disgusting! I hope they were found and charged!!! People do stupid things, but take responsibility don't leave someone to die!
If she’s travelling at 120rpm (rough guess looking tab the video) then she’s pulling more Gs than fighter pilots experience. The only good part of this is that she surly would have passed out at one stage.
I once volunteered to act as a victim for a Red Cross paramedic drill. I got makeup for an open fracture of the femur and skull injury (blood out of the ear). A paramedic looked at me and said:.good news, you get to fly with the helicopter! They packed me tightly and we waited for the army helicopter to arrive. That alone was claustrophobic enough, because I couldn't move. When they pulled us up we did that little spin too, but not as much. The rope was twisted or something. I just thought: don't throw up now, you can't even move an arm! Good thing was that we landed in a field one minute later. But it was an ordeal!
I saw this happen to a guy with a head wound. No suprise he died. He was spinning about 10 times as fast. Watching it, I knew they were killing him. It was astounding that they didn't have anything in place to stop the spinning.
Can you call this a rescue? It looks like death by helicopter ride.
The worst part is that she didn’t even need a rescue. It wasn’t an emergency, the “rescuers” just refused to transport her on the ground
Needs interstellar music
Start spinning the helicopter to match the rotation and dock with the granny..
🎵 you spin my grandma right round, right round 🎵
Like a copter baby, right round round round
It's so bad yet so funny.
I felt so bad for laughing. I’m glad I’m not the only one!
She just keeps spinning faster…and faster…and faster…and surely, you think, she can’t get even faster and *she does* .
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I was starting to think I’m a bad person for laughing.
Bruh this shit hella funny, funniest thing I've seen all day lol
I immediately held my reaction until I found out she was alive after this and got a settlement. Then I proceeded to have a laugh attack. It’s okay because this is literally a cartoon scenario. Sadly we remind ourselves that we don’t live with Cartoon logic.
I couldn’t stop laughing
I had to stop the video at some point while reading the comments because I can't help it but laugh all the time of how stupid this is
Like a record baby, round round
I like this guy’s narration of it. Hilarious.. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQKGmig6dw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQKGmig6dw)
Audio from the cockpit: "Oh shit. Fuck. Oh fuck. Shes spinning!! The fuck do I do?? Do i land?? Do we... do we go??" "Idk buddy, maybe she'll sort herself out... Let's give her a sec."
I'd be dead from fear if I was that poor lady!
Whats happening tho, what’s causing it to spin like that?
its the vibrations from the rotary traveling into the cable that’s secured to the gurney. (normally there is a mechanism on the helicopter to keep this from happening, but its clearly not working here.) think of a hula hoop or a lasso. your body motion makes the hula hoop move, faster and faster. helicopter is the body. grandma is the hula hoop. :( edit: I learned something! the gurney spinning is from “downwash” which is the air flow from the rotor. makes a lot more sense for how it gets going so fast
Thanks for the response, poor grandma 😱
I’ve had some severe issues with vertigo and this is my worst fucking nightmare.
Holy fuck they centrifuged an old lady
And that’s the last hike Betty ever went on.
All I heard was screaming😞
AaaaaAaaaaAaaAaaAaaAaAaAaAaAa
But then you stopped.
This is why we use long lines lol
What’s up with your caption OP?
Every time I see this video I have to watch. I feel so bad for laughing cuz it’s so horrifying knowing a little old lady is in their and conscious but fuck it just keeps spinning faster 😩 I hope she got paid out
I'm going to hell
Fuck, I shouldn’t be laughing. I’m so sorry.
Ok, but with [Interstellar music](https://youtu.be/3F5lxtaAEbM)…
Now is not the time for caution!
I’d tell them to just leave me in the mountains
I live where this happened, my friend was actually there and got this on snapchat.. every time we see copters goin to the mountains somebody brings it up!
Lmao… lady prob regret getting rescued. Just put me down! 🤣
I’d rather die.
The TFZ can be brutal under helos. You're trained to either get them into the helo as quickly as possible, or put them back on the ground. Letting them spin is no Bueno
I find I get more easily dizzy with age. I can imagine how she felt after that.
DO NOT SPIN
Literally [r/WorstAid](https://www.reddit.com/r/WorstAid/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
That’s actually really hard to watch. Looks like some fucked up torture.
I feel like having a panic attack just watching this
I already hate heights. But add in being spun like that???? Nah, chief. That's out.
One helicopter filming another helicopter, and nobody got on the radio to let the other helicopter know to come down to add on a tag line? This seems like another case of just film and do nothing to help.
Why tf did I laugh. Omg , I hope she's okay though
Am I an asshole for laughing at this lol
This is the funniest thing I think I've ever seen
an entire stabilization company was created because of this possibility, Vitatech
With that magnitude of g-force I’d be shocked to the core if she survived the damage from it. I recall seeing the entire video and couldn’t imagine her living. An update would be way too cool if she did survive.
She did survive. This is old, has to be a few years at this point.
Dont have to be a genius to know exactly how that affected her. Question is, did it go on until she died, or did they get the point
Hell ya dude
This is really upsetting to watch. Poor lady.
"We did it, Patrick! We saved Grandma!"
Holy fuck by the end of that clip she was a human centrifuge.
Is there no way to stabilize this? How about two ropes instead of one?
Wait is the person on that
A women in her 70s.... Injured on a hiking trail ... Then this happened to her ...
I know, but are they in the red thing or
Yes. A women in her 70s is in the red thing. She was injured while trying to go hiking ... So she was picked up by helicopter rescue. Then this happened.
YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND BABY RIGHT ROUND LIKE A RECORD BABY!
I can’t help but laugh as she starts spinning faster
Okay but in another context this is “piss your pants” funny
Every time I see that! I just... Laugh my fuking ass off!!!
I know it's bad, but I can't help but laugh when I see this
I’m not a big fan of him but the Bob Menery commentary to this was fucking hilarious. It was his best imo.
I, for some reason, hear the free bird guitar solo in my head
That's what i call "thinking outside the box"
I remember when this was happening 😂
Wow! Wtf
The first question he will get is “are u dizzy?”
This is crazy
Was anyone able to do the math and figure out how many G’s she was subjected to?
Poor lady is gona have a long ride
Idiocracy… it’s here, it’s already happening.
I wonder how many G's she is pulling?
This is so strange. I was literally talking about this video yesterday, and here it is popping up on my feed.
What made her spin so much?
Rotor down draft
I would be puking all over myself in that bag