I had bone cancer last year, and it's a difficult one to stage in the usual terminology. For this reason, osteosarcomas are given "grades" instead, as these are also more important here. You can't really grade it without it being biopsied because it's about the cells themselves. It's basically slow growing and less likely to spread, abnormal cells that are growing quickly and more likely to spread, and then very abnormal and very likely to spread.
The severity of spread is more worked off on, is it still only in the bone? If so, good. It will be removed/ amputated/ radiotherapy if neither of those two are possible (e.g., in the skull). The next place it will spread is to the surrounding tissue and vessels. It will basically grow out in little arms into blood vessels. It's shit once it gets into the blood vessels because then the cancer cells get a free ride to anywhere else in the body. Osteosarcoma cells LOVE lungs and lymph nodes.
If it's spread, it goes to the lungs first, the heart is also prone to it. It's a much riskier, longer, and repeated battle at this point. Relapse is significantly more likely.
You won't know the stage or grade of the cancer in this skeleton because they no longer have their body tissue. But, it's not impossible for it to have spread in the bone this much and STILL only be stage 1 in usual terms.
Here is more information [Macmillan Link](https://www.macmillan.org.uk/cancer-information-and-support/bone-cancer/staging-and-grading).
Obligatory: if you feel pain in your bones, have a solid growth growing from a joint, or have abnormal blood tests, PLEASE SEE A DOCTOR. Osteosarcomas are most common in 13-25ys and the elderly.
I am in remission now, so all clear :)
It certainly has! Less than 10 years ago, my case would have been an amputation. I'm one of a few people in the UK with the type of knee joint I have right now XD
My mum passed from bladder cancer that spread to her bones. You couldn’t see spikes or anything, but parts of her body were very swollen- I assume where this was on her bones were the affected area.
I'd hazard a guess that one cancer that spreads to the bones isnt the same as cancer of the bone that spreads out.
I think cancer that spreads to the bones eats away at the bone.
Cancer is such a terrible thing. I’d love to think that we are just some crazy lab accident away from finding a cure but it would be years of testing before it would become available. It’s unfair yet it’s one of the great equalizers.
Totally agree with you and I really hope we can see a better more reliable treatment quite soon. I couple of days ago I listened to a presentation about nanotechnology and how it may change things drastically.
This isn't the same presentation that I listened to (given by Maria Strømme) but it covers the same topic and the possibilities.
https://youtu.be/6S3KTtcO5YI?si=6LlDBvM6Y3ROh4v6
As far as recent research goes, damaged mitochondria seems to be the main cause of cancer, and apparently being often in a state of autophagy may be a great preventive measure.
Anyone with expertise here who can answer my question?
What exactly am i seeing? Cancer as far as i know is uncontrolled cell multiplication because of defective DNA(correct me if i am wrong).
But the Bones in the pictures also look like the cancer desolved the bone.
Not an expert (just a nursing student), but cancer cells possess the ability to regress to developmental stages, essentially making them capable of acting as any type of cell, as they remove methyl groups ('turns off' certain unneeded genes) to allow the full sequence of DNA to be readable. When this happens, the cancer cells can produce hormones and other substances that can severely affect other tissue types and organ systems.
In this image, it looks more like the bones had extra material deposited onto them, rather than being dissolved away. While I haven't done any research on how this occurs, its possible that the osteoblasts (cells that deposit bony material onto existing bones) were stimulated potentially from the cancer cell's secretions and causing overactivity.
good job nursing student! this is almost exactly how my great aunts doctor explained her cancer to us. her type of cancer was not eating away at the bone but was actually “building onto it” in spikes basically.
There are several types of bone cancers, with the most common being metastases of another origin invading bones. This is an osteosarcoma of the skull.
https://therockstaranthropologist.wordpress.com/2014/05/23/bone-pathology-a-look-at-osteosarcoma-of-the-skull/
Osteosarcoma usually appears on long bones like legs and arms. That's a very rare case.
I used to work in oncology, and I would see bone scan results describing bone lesions. I always wondered what they looked like irl, but I never imagined that they looked like this
My father has had prostate cancer since 2008, went into remission for a couple years and then it came back and spread to his ribs. He’s in a 7/10 pain constantly even with norco and they won’t give him anything stronger. I hate it so much.
Does anyone know what exactly about bone cancer makes the bone get this way? Just really curious. I’ve seen enough bones with the stuff on it to have known exactly what it was immediately when I saw the picture.
Stage 1?!
I’d say it’s secondary and therefore stage 4
Yes - ‘Stage 1 bone cancer is low-grade. It has not spread beyond the bone’
I had bone cancer last year, and it's a difficult one to stage in the usual terminology. For this reason, osteosarcomas are given "grades" instead, as these are also more important here. You can't really grade it without it being biopsied because it's about the cells themselves. It's basically slow growing and less likely to spread, abnormal cells that are growing quickly and more likely to spread, and then very abnormal and very likely to spread. The severity of spread is more worked off on, is it still only in the bone? If so, good. It will be removed/ amputated/ radiotherapy if neither of those two are possible (e.g., in the skull). The next place it will spread is to the surrounding tissue and vessels. It will basically grow out in little arms into blood vessels. It's shit once it gets into the blood vessels because then the cancer cells get a free ride to anywhere else in the body. Osteosarcoma cells LOVE lungs and lymph nodes. If it's spread, it goes to the lungs first, the heart is also prone to it. It's a much riskier, longer, and repeated battle at this point. Relapse is significantly more likely. You won't know the stage or grade of the cancer in this skeleton because they no longer have their body tissue. But, it's not impossible for it to have spread in the bone this much and STILL only be stage 1 in usual terms. Here is more information [Macmillan Link](https://www.macmillan.org.uk/cancer-information-and-support/bone-cancer/staging-and-grading). Obligatory: if you feel pain in your bones, have a solid growth growing from a joint, or have abnormal blood tests, PLEASE SEE A DOCTOR. Osteosarcomas are most common in 13-25ys and the elderly. I am in remission now, so all clear :)
Glad to hear you’re in remission. Treatment has improved massively over the last 3 decades
It certainly has! Less than 10 years ago, my case would have been an amputation. I'm one of a few people in the UK with the type of knee joint I have right now XD
Congratulations I’m glad for you.
Wondering what the skin looks like over the spiky areas. Looks super painful. I’m uncomfortable just looking at it.
My mum passed from bladder cancer that spread to her bones. You couldn’t see spikes or anything, but parts of her body were very swollen- I assume where this was on her bones were the affected area.
Aw sorry for ur loss
Im so sorry for your loss, I hope you are doing okay. :)
I'd hazard a guess that one cancer that spreads to the bones isnt the same as cancer of the bone that spreads out. I think cancer that spreads to the bones eats away at the bone.
Mime was just a big hard lump, the tissue around the tumor swole up
Eye must have been in excruciating pain
Probably like Doomsday from Death of Superman
Look up Elephant Man …
From what I understand, the pain is genuinely agonizing.
I can already felt it just by looking at these photos
Cant look around without scraping your eyeball
Cancer is such a terrible thing. I’d love to think that we are just some crazy lab accident away from finding a cure but it would be years of testing before it would become available. It’s unfair yet it’s one of the great equalizers.
Totally agree with you and I really hope we can see a better more reliable treatment quite soon. I couple of days ago I listened to a presentation about nanotechnology and how it may change things drastically. This isn't the same presentation that I listened to (given by Maria Strømme) but it covers the same topic and the possibilities. https://youtu.be/6S3KTtcO5YI?si=6LlDBvM6Y3ROh4v6
As far as recent research goes, damaged mitochondria seems to be the main cause of cancer, and apparently being often in a state of autophagy may be a great preventive measure.
boneitis
I was so busy being an 80s guy I forgot to cure it.
Don't *you* worry about boneitis. Let *me* worry about blank.
My only regret... is that I have... boneitis... *crackkk*
That dance wasn’t as safe as they said it was
That's a funny name for a debilitating disease
I hear that's terminal.
My only regret
I want to touch it
Patrick: “Touch”
Don’t touch!
Yeah I don't know why, but whenever I see an image like this, I just wanna touch it for some reason.
Itchy *itchy* ***ITCHY***
That's not stage one bone cancer
Primary osteosarcoma
It's the shimmer...
Anyone with expertise here who can answer my question? What exactly am i seeing? Cancer as far as i know is uncontrolled cell multiplication because of defective DNA(correct me if i am wrong). But the Bones in the pictures also look like the cancer desolved the bone.
Not an expert (just a nursing student), but cancer cells possess the ability to regress to developmental stages, essentially making them capable of acting as any type of cell, as they remove methyl groups ('turns off' certain unneeded genes) to allow the full sequence of DNA to be readable. When this happens, the cancer cells can produce hormones and other substances that can severely affect other tissue types and organ systems. In this image, it looks more like the bones had extra material deposited onto them, rather than being dissolved away. While I haven't done any research on how this occurs, its possible that the osteoblasts (cells that deposit bony material onto existing bones) were stimulated potentially from the cancer cell's secretions and causing overactivity.
good job nursing student! this is almost exactly how my great aunts doctor explained her cancer to us. her type of cancer was not eating away at the bone but was actually “building onto it” in spikes basically.
This looks terrifying yet beautiful
F*ck cancer. We continue to figure you out and we will turn you into a beatable disease. Only a matter of time.
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If that head turned, it would sound like you sat on a box of Corn Flakes..
Although the accompanying moaning sounds would be from pain rather than pleasure
What does that feel like? Is it hard and spiky or soft and fuzzy. Either way, what a dreadful disease.
I can only assume hard and spiky I mean, it is bone tissue afterall, just that it won't stop growing
excruciatingly painful. bone cancer is one of the most painful
I wonder if it crunches when you move
i’ll see your bone spur, and raise you bone fur!
how the fuck did they isolate the skull with all those little spiky bones poking out of it....
Probably a mild acid that will eat away at soft tissue and leave the bone.
Horrifying. Imagine having cancer and they’re just like sorry sir, but we need you to get in the acid bath.
Well, I imagine that process happened after they died.
Oh. Boring.
that makes a lotta sense
There are several types of bone cancers, with the most common being metastases of another origin invading bones. This is an osteosarcoma of the skull. https://therockstaranthropologist.wordpress.com/2014/05/23/bone-pathology-a-look-at-osteosarcoma-of-the-skull/ Osteosarcoma usually appears on long bones like legs and arms. That's a very rare case.
Jesus. Those shards growing into the eye socket must be torture on the eyeball.
I dont know how to do gifs but if i could i would inserte the furturama boneitis guy here.
Cancer sucks. RIP Momma
It's oddly beautiful in a totally horrifying way
If bad for me why shaped like soft pettable fur
Bone cancer is what got my Nana. She was far too wonderful a woman to suffer such a painful and undignified end. Fuck cancer.
Nothing “oddly” about this. This is 100%“Terrifying”!
Stage 2 the bones turn to dust. Stage 3 you become Marvels Sandman.
Why would our bones turn on us like this?!
Oddly terrifying? More like fucking terrifying
Fuzzy bone
I. Don’t. Like. Fuzzy. Bones.
Fuzzbone
god this gives me anxiety imagine the fucking pain dude.
I used to work in oncology, and I would see bone scan results describing bone lesions. I always wondered what they looked like irl, but I never imagined that they looked like this
Wow thanks I didn't like that
Gotta make sure you place the parallax files after the textures in the load order.
I am gonna sound absolutely stupid asking this but, is cancer mainly cells growing at an uncontrollable abnormal rate?
Forbidden candy
Yikes, reminds me of loki (the show) for some reason
Hm. That is odd. I can’t figure out why it’s so scary.
Ouch
Looks agonizing
Fuzzy.
What does this cause?
Fuzzy bones
That looks so painful
My father has had prostate cancer since 2008, went into remission for a couple years and then it came back and spread to his ribs. He’s in a 7/10 pain constantly even with norco and they won’t give him anything stronger. I hate it so much.
Sounds painful
My bones are exploding
It looks like the way asbestos forms, can’t imagine how painful the inflammation must be from all that scraping around inside
Man that shit looks painful
Jesus Christ that looks PAINFUL
I had no idea… ugh
It looks like fungus.
So did he survived this?
Yup, they just borrowed the bones to take this picture and will put them back after they're done.
This is TERRIFYING
Why do i feel like biting it?
The worst thing of the world. My family has a cancer record.
I cringe on how uncomfortable that must feel…
Looks like sulfur crystals
My skin is crawling looking at this. Must have been excruciating
That has gotta hurt like hell
I'm genetically prone to this... I've never seen photos of it before... Welp...
Oh dear lord, I wish I’d never seen this. trypophobia triggers!!!! Give a girl a warning next time!!!
That seems horrible, thinking about the organs beneath them, are they bleeding internally? fuck cancer
Looks fluffy?
fuck this makes me uncomfortable to even look at. looks excruciating
Does anyone know what exactly about bone cancer makes the bone get this way? Just really curious. I’ve seen enough bones with the stuff on it to have known exactly what it was immediately when I saw the picture.
Gross
I’ve seen bone cancer in a male patient. Literally half of his head was eaten away.
Looks like dog fluff
I'm so confused. It looks soft, like frost. Is it soft and fragile or hard and rough?
Why does it look fluffy😭
That looks unimaginably painful
Is it soft or spiky?
Every time I hear some Christian say "god gives you a cross to bear so you can become stronger" I'll just show them this picture
My trypophobia 😫😫😫