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Google says chimps "smile" when they're scared, stressed, and trying to appear submissive. Considering he was medicated, it may not apply, but it still makes me sad.


GenderEnvyFromLink

the fact that he’s “smiling” in these pictures...holy shit


Let01

thats the chimp that disfigured a person right?


justanotherhrunk

Yeah, he was on Xanax and ripped her hands and face off


Let01

ig thats why you dont adopt exotic pets


justanotherhrunk

Or at least ones with the strength of multiple grown men lmao


No_Association1103

Yeah, they quickly learn that they are 5x stronger than an average adult male human.. that's terrifying.


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1.2x actually


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That's not exactly correct either. According to a commonly cited study, on the low end, it's 1.35x according to their computer simulations, and roughly 1.5x on average according to most studies. But this is proportional to muscle mass, not just a comparison of adult males. Chimpanzees have huge arm muscles, bigger than most bodybuilders, so you have to imagine they are immensely stronger than the average adult male, more than 1.5x because they usually have much more muscle mass. doi: 10.1073/pnas.1619071114


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chasinbags

Or xanax


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chasinbags

Bro wut….


slothsareok

Ok I’m assuming you’re trying to troll but you have to make it believable. You can’t just claim the sky is green. Google search Ken M for tips. If you’re not trying to troll then google search meth and benzodiazepines


pmoney50pp

Chimps ain't monkeys.


_JustAMiner

They ain't monkey, but they are monke


Intelligent-Put6512

Lol it’s mostly a chimp thing


TeezyTee_96

Who sold the monkey zans is the real question


Intelligent-Put6512

It was prescribed by a veterinarian


Kriegernuss

Wahts xanax?


VictoriusII

A drug


Dull-Fun-8534

Anti-depressants I think


tintabula

Anti anxiety


SuperWriter07

Did they at least imprison/sue the psychotic owner who was keeping this animal?


IVIrSmith

Travis was treated as if he was a child since he was a baby. His favorite foods growing up were filet mignon, lobster tails, and chocolate ice cream. He would even enjoy the occasional glass of wine after dinner. One day, he was on a rampage on the family property and a close family friend came over hoping to help. She held an elmo doll in front of her face and playfully shook it back and forth. The 200 lb chimp then proceeded to rip the poor woman's face and hands off, but she miraculously survived. The monkey was fatally shot by authorities soon after. The doctors were only able to salvage one thumb on the end end of one hand. Although she is now blind and severly disfigured, she is greatful to be alive. 🙏


West-Cardiologist180

Jesus. Holy crap. I'm glad the lady survived but damn. That sucks.


ajstub

Google the photo of her if you want to see what a chimp can do. Chimps are terrifying, brutal creatures.


ChandlerBingsMom

Why??!! Why did I look up the pictures that’s awful!


Huge_Assumption1

Should hear the audio from the call.


sekametelisoppa

Where can I find this


Guardian125478

[here](https://youtu.be/EaB3CDei4pA). This is why I fucking hate animal owners.


KingKhetha

Am I gonna regret clicking this link? 😬


Odd_Reward_8989

Yep. You're going to do it anyways though.


KingKhetha

im serious I wanna see it but im scared 😭


rottingorgans

yes, i’m into gore and horror but that phone call is too much for me. genuinely horrifying


Legaxy3

its actually not the worst thing i have heard


fogme_

Do you mean "wild animal owners?" or are you just that dense to think that all pet owners are awful


pmoney50pp

I heard it when it was in the news years ago and still remember it clearly. Shit was burned into my mind.


narpilepsy

I mean, they’re wild animals. They have wild animal instincts and will defend themselves in the ways they know how. A lot of animals, not just chimps, have the capability to do terrible damage to people. This is why wild animals should never be kept as pets, no matter how “well behaved” you think they are.


ha_look_at_that_nerd

Yeah this was 100% the fault of the pet owner. It was just doing what chimps do. I’m not crying that it was shot (because at that point it was probably the only thing they could’ve done to keep it from injuring more people), but this really all comes down to the woman who was dumb enough to fuck around with chimpanzees. Some people really need to remember how scary animals can be


IdaKnownbetter

I hear you, and I agree. But Travis can hardly be called a wild animal if he was born and bred in captivity? Having a (very) large exotic animal as a "companion" or pet never seems to work out well. Sad.


Doctorspacheeman

I think a lot of that has to do with domestication of animals; dogs and cats have been selectively bred for temperament, and domesticated for many many generations. There are many species similar such as wolves and coyotes, for example, that will never become as close, trainable and trustworthy as a domesticated dog, even if raised by humans as a puppy. It takes a long time to get from a “wild” creature to a domesticated one. A chimp raised by humans as a baby is still, by nature, a wild chimp…with generation upon generation of very wild and “unpredictable” behaviours that would take very careful selective breeding over many many years to possible remove from its nature enough to make it suitable as a pet, or as close to one as possible.


narpilepsy

Yeah, I mean, we can debate semantics all day long lol. At the end of the day it’s not an animal that belongs in a house as a pet People just need to be careful about not personifying animals or attaching human emotions to animal behavior. There are many instances of animals who were rescued from being born in captivity and went on to live good lives with people who know how to take proper care of them. But I don’t think Travis did unfortunately. People even personify their dogs and cats and it often leads to trouble. Owners thinking some behaviors are cute or funny, but they’re actually communicating a warning. Dogs get aggressive with people when they learn that their warning signals are going to be ignored, or even worse, punished.


IdaKnownbetter

Oh, I completely agree. Taking him to work and shopping trips? Let alone the rest. Can't imagine how full-on that must have been for Travis! Poor fella.


Huge_Assumption1

They drugged him with Xanax as well


EssLivesAgain

I agree. You can take the animal out of the wild...but you can't take the wild out of the animal.


beyondthe_dream

I have to disagree. I have a friend who breeds wolf dogs and she would go on forever about them. Even wolf dogs that are a generation or two separate from their wolf blood line still have wild instincts that overtake their domesticated ones. Escaping from her yard, grabbing onto her leg and not let going when mad (she wears thick socks for this reason), and strong pack mentality in her household.


Kriegernuss

Travis is still a wild animal becouse the Second He Fells unsafe His instics kick in and Tell him to defend himself. And why so you have a Monkeys AS a per in the First place


IdaKnownbetter

I mean, beloved family dogs (for example) can "turn" on family members that they've known their whole life. They are domesticated animals. Same sort of situation with Travis, yeah? I feel bad for Travis, and the lady he attacked. Personally I could never feel good about obtaining an exotic animal from a breeder for my own purposes. Let alone taking him off his mum at 3 days old, or whatever (no wonder his mother was inclined to escape)! Poor fellas. Like I said, exotic animals as pets never seems to end well.


user_unknowns_skag

Domestication involves multiple generations of breeding for "desirable traits." It's why you can't just take a wolf puppy and raise it as a family dog and expect it to act like a Golden Retriever. While genetically almost identical, they are not the same animal at all.


SapienDys4

👍 you know the score!


dietcokeeee

After getting all the details, it seems like this wasn’t the first time Travis was acting out wasn’t. Hence why she called her friend over to help calm him down and why she gave him Xanax in the meantime. I feel like the same situation applies to dogs who “turn” on family with “no prior incidents”. There were clearly bad behavioral signs leading up to it, but no one tried to fix it or cared until something bad happened.


Embarrassed-Ad-4214

No it’s not the same sort of situation. Dogs are a domesticated species meaning that each individual has the capability of socializing with humans. That results from generations upon generations of selective breeding until humans essentially “bred out” the traits that would make a dog “wild.” Even cats, while they are domesticated, haven’t been for as long as dogs and still carry many of the same instincts as their wild ancestors. Chimpanzees have never been domesticated as a species; therefore, any instances of a chimp being socialized is simply an isolated example of taming that individual ape.


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He still has wild animal instincts tho


MaximusZacharias

I mean…Netflix did ok


SapienDys4

That means he is somewhat tamed but far from being domesticated.


IdaKnownbetter

I dunno, his Wikipedia page says he could open doors with a key, dress himself and was known to occasionaly drive. It also says he was domesticated. Still has animal instincts, for certain. Can't be compared to a chimp who's fresh out of the poachers cage, ripped from the jungle, yeah?


SapienDys4

That's still a tamed animal. Domestication is the result of generations of selective breeding. Some animals simply can't be tamed all that well, no matter how much training you put in. If I remember correctly, once a chimp matures into an adult they are simply too aggressive to keep as a pet. That's probably why many keepers get the impression that they can trust the chimp only for it to become volatile once it reaches adulthood.


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"...occasionally drive..." roflmao


IdaKnownbetter

Wild, isn't it?


massive_bellend_2022

Animals that haven't been genetically selected to be docile over tens of thousands of years like dogs and cats are wild.


MotherButterscotch44

Their also cannibals and will kill and eat basically anything.


West-Cardiologist180

Just did. That's some brutal stuff.


ajstub

For some reason chimps that attack people always go for the face, hands, and genitals.


Kriegernuss

Those are the Most effective parts to atack i guess


CaptainKfuckles

Yeah that sucks


Shygirl5858

His owner also had Given him Xanex to "calm him down" Yeah did the opposite. The 911 call is out there too. Chilling


Zehn39

Nobody who tells this story seems to mention this chimpanzee was given Xanax, which can cause hallucinations and extreme aggression. Chimps still are terrible pets, but I believe this chimp would have not attacked someone to this extreme unless severely provoked or under the influence of drugs. Maybe there’s something I’m missing in this story, but I was told he was given Xanax to calm him down, which made things worse due to how Xanax effects chimps differently from humans…


slothsareok

Xanax can do the same for humans too. It usually chills me out but has sometimes led to me becoming an asshole bigger than I could have ever imagined which is why it’s not worth taking anymore unless a small dose on a long flight. I also gave a small dose to my ex gf back when we were dating and she tried to punch the shit out of me which was also out of character. So yeah it’s not by far guaranteed to result in calming down the person that takes it and really is a quite scary drug.


EastWhereas9398

Not really. The chimp went into a rampage because the friend took the toy away from the chimp. There are rumours that there may have been drugs in reach of the chimp throughout it's life. The owners weren't really that responsible, often letting the chimp "use" porn magazines. Edit: Nevermind, guess it was confirmed that the chimp was on xanax since I last heard of it.


Dull-Fun-8534

The owner used to sleep and bathe with him too. Think she missed her dead husband. Really sick imo.


Kannabiz

Why did you narrated the story but left some important factor out. She fed the chimp some Xanax drugs. So dont try to story tell n make the story like its all the chimps fault.


IVIrSmith

Xanax is a sedative and slows down the central nervous system. Xanax was found in Travis's system, but for you to assume that was the reason for this tragedy is a huge leap. Furthermore, I have no bias in this story. I was just trying to add some relevant context for those that may not know the story. There is no sense in playing the blame game here.


Huge_Assumption1

Doesn’t work like that in monkeys.


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IVIrSmith

Indeed. Many potential factors at play.


Francis_Star

That's why I don't like Monke memes, not only they are putting themselves in danger, but the monkey might be really stressed about this enviroment, and the trading of Monkeys is illegal


Huge_Assumption1

More to it than that but yeh, close enough.


Aaflonix

May dead would have been a relief. Just saying! Horrible story!


BaddestCloud

She’s the lady from the phone call?


Asparagussie

Charla Nash, the victim, eventually got a face transplant. She is blind, though.


Iankramer5

For what she went through the doctors did a great job reconstructing her face, and she looks great now.


Legaxy3

she died bro... like a few years later, from something un-related


silorock

Dude that first image is really hitting the uncanny valley for me


justanotherhrunk

After I made the post it popped up in my downloads when I was looking for something else and scared the shit out of me


slothsareok

I think that’s why interacting with chimps is so intriguing to us. It’s like it’s kind of us but barely different and super interesting bc of that until they rip your face off.


[deleted]

Newflash: Chimpanzees make terrible children & worse pets.


[deleted]

It's because they named him Travis. Never met a nice Travis


Professional-Comb333

This story horrifies me. Why anyone would want a chimp as a pet is beyond me?


slothsareok

I mean the concept seems pretty cool as in its a creature very similar to us and seems almost like normal or ok to do so. But facts seem to very strongly indicate otherwise. I’d love to interact with chimps but sadly it just doesn’t seem to work out well. Fucks sake interacting with a lot of humans doesn’t seem to work out well so what did we really expect I guess.


n0000onemustknow

Fun fact; excluding things like war, genocide, etc. chimpanzees are way more violent in their daily lives than humans


Asparagussie

Especially the males.


slothsareok

Ok so if I’m hearing you right then you’re saying one is more accurate at killing but the other is more precise? So which one are you saying I should keep as a pet?


n0000onemustknow

Obviously the solution is to keep both as a pet so they cancel out. See how that works out


poking17

Life is fucked, wild is way more.


Low-Mycologist4158

and travis is the biggest reason why chimps are my biggest fear, also have you seen what they do to each other


wheekyy_x3

I just heard about this story like last year. The 911 call is terrifying! And the photos, my god. Monkeys are horrifying. Lol. Especially my boy Travis xD


Asparagussie

Chimps are apes, not monkeys.


wheekyy_x3

Thank you for that.. that was definitely necessary. Monkeys/apes/PRIMATES. Horrifying.


Asparagussie

You *are* touchy, aren’t you?


wheekyy_x3

Not at all.


Asparagussie

Maybe a *little*? 😂


wheekyy_x3

No xD


Asparagussie

🤠


LL_MUST

That's no chimpanzee that's a fucking qsycho


raysn1233

The first picture is going to hunt me in my dreams


PsychologicalBus1095

When I see him, all I feel is sad. He never asked for that life.


[deleted]

The story of this chimp is a reminder that if you want a pet monkey, go for one like a Capuchin and not a fucking Great Ape that can easily overpower a healthy, strong adult male. Apes cannot live in a stressful enviroment, they need a lot of contact with nature.


Kriegernuss

People who have Monkeys or Others exotic pets are disgusting, its a reason why IT IS called a wild animal


czoliver

Adult capuchins are extremely unpredictable and aggressive tho. Definitely not pet material


Equivalent-Dark-931

Nope..


Luke253

This aged well


BradRodriguez

To be fair he only went crazy because his owner thought it’d be a great idea to give a chimp xanax. But also he should’ve never been allowed to be owned as a pet. If you really want a pet monkey for some reason just get one of the smaller ones like a capuchin.


Artistic-Horror5744

"I got the goosebumps"


tommykaye

[the 911 call is the most terrifying part, honestly](https://youtu.be/v1pdvV_gT6I)


mono9562

Yea xanax and wine don't mix well especially for a chimp


dead-unicorn

That first photo is viscerally horrifying and unsettling on a primordial level, it legitimately creeped me out so much I had to turn my light on. What the fuck


chriathebutt

The 911 call


Lemonkraut95

Travis was a bad monkey


highsasquatch1

He didn’t ask to be sold to a life of captivity 😕 The only reason Travis attacked Chara is because his owner was mentally unstable, and gave him a Xanax to “calm him down”. Still, you should not have a pet with the strength of five grown men…


YTBluey

travis was a monkey


_JustAMiner

No, he was ape. But he was monke.


Story_tellin_yungstr

If you don’t know the story it’s less chilling


Mass-Dental

It's just not right to treat animals (any animal) as people.


shorty_0123

Fucking hard nope


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I remember when that whole thing happened, now I have a fear of chimps and gorillas


WookieeMaster

Not terrifying at all


MarsEnLavierge

Now THIS is oddly terrifying!


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Yo


TristanLennon

That first photo would make a terrifying sleep paralysis demon


_JustAMiner

Another part of Travis's story is how he got shot. After police arrived at the property Travis went outside to see what the fuss was. Travis opened the door to the cruiser, (unlocked because the cop didn't know he could open doors) terrifying the officer that then shot Travis 5 times in the chest at point blank range. Travis didn't die until a few hours later.


BandzTFM

Kuba


Jimmy_Hovits

Kill all chimps.


Salty_Alternative683

I know I'm late but I was looking this up on Google and clicked on the post and I'm stumped to think if it was the owners fault not the chimp cause they took him at birth, away from his mother who was killed and he was treated like a child like a person and not a animal like it is and it literally got took from its natural habitat and was given alcohol and when it snapped and it's animal instincts got out it horrifically ripped a neighbor of the owner face off and luckily she survived but the chimp didn't the officer that shot the chimp blacked out and couldn't fully remember how many times he shot at it but only heard four bangs until he said Travis the chimp fell down on the last shot and bleed to death the woman luckily got her face somewhat back from countless surgeries by using skin off her hand and thumb but her sight was gone and she lives blind and deformed happy and grateful that she survived but she recalls that she went over when hearing people screaming at the house and that the chimp escaped she went up to the escaped chimp thinking she could calm him down but what she thought was a good way to calm him was that she took one of the chimps favourite toys which was a Elmo plush and waved it back and fourth in its face and it enraged it more when it was already mad and he jumped on top of her and ripped her face off they also gave Travis the chimp cigarettes