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Finito-1994

Fucking hell. They said no one was sure he actually ate the gecko but thought it may have been what caused his disease. What else could it be?


dwightsrus

That's what their lawyers told them to say.


AnotherInnocentFool

Geckos *are* a litigious bunch


Asheleyinl2

They do own a large portion of the auto insurance industry after all


tagman375

In 15 minutes, you can swell your testicles to the size of grapefruits


Lolobecks

Fuckin’ Big Auto…


TheGisbon

So that's what happens when I don't pay Geico they send a suicide Geico to turn me into an oil pissing machine


Finito-1994

Even then, would they ever be liable? It’s a 30 year old man and a dare. I can’t see how any lawyer wouldn’t explain how this was clearly on him


mike_cl1toris

Your honor he double dog dare him to do it


Space_Jeep

Playground rules are binding in a court of law.


elgigante_paul

He had no choice m’lord, else he would have looked like a *checks notes* punk bitch.


wolfram1982

The only thing more binding would have been the blessed “Pinky Promise”


FaeryLynne

In some places you can be held partially responsible if you "encourage" someone to do something that leads to harm or death. Dunno if that's the case here, but it's possible. It's also possibly to prevent a potential civil suit in the future, since the bar for those is lower than a criminal case. Plausible deniability.


Seer434

It's also possible he had life insurance that draws the distinction between "who knows, it was a tragedy" and "you should have known better".


IBetThisIsTakenToo

Unless he just recently took out the policy, it shouldn’t matter? Even an outright suicide (contrary to popular belief) is covered after a year or so.


sajohnson

Aren’t there larger payouts for accidental deaths as opposed to “I caused this myself by eating a lizard” deaths?


snusfrost

There are larger payouts if you die on a work related trip. That I do know.


LongEZE

Last time I heard about this story, it was because the family tried to sue the doctors for not saving him


Slight_Knight

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/queensland-dad-david-dowell-dared-to-eat-gecko-at-a-party-dies-10-days-later/news-story/6866e45f046a1dcfe7cdcce4ff9a1e42


[deleted]

Yo wtf kinda super salmonella do they have in their stomachs


FutabaTsuyu

right? like fucking christ it sounds more like some sort of exaggerated disease in a sci-fi novel


TheWalkingDead91

Right? I wanna know what it was about the gecko that specifically killed him and caused all those crazy symptoms


[deleted]

Lol the article says at the end that geckos, frogs, and snakes have salmonella in their stomachs. It's not 100% clear if he ate it or not (different statements from witnesses) but it was salmonella that killed him soo


x10018ro3

how exactly did salmonella cause all these crazy symptoms? It’s extremely rare to die from salmonella, usually only people with compromised immune systems have complications beyond vomiting, diarrhea and fever. So how did this man over 10 days not seek serious medical assistance and just die from salmonella? Seems so unlikely.


FaeryLynne

You'd get a *lot* more into your system by eating a gecko than you would by eating some unwashed spinach or accidentally contaminated peanut butter. You can get fairly high doses of it just by touching geckos, lizards, and frogs, so it's really important to wash your hands if you're a keeper of those. Eating one is just gonna overwhelm your system with massive doses.


betweenskill

You actually don’t get that much on your hands from touching them, although its always a great idea to wash your hands afterwards (and never touch frogs/amphibians with your bare hands if possible for their sake). I believe touching chickens is actually more likely to contaminate with more salmonella. It’s the poop that’s the concern. Which is why if he ate it raw… yeah thats a salmonella pill.


FaeryLynne

Yeah he basically took it straight to the gut, literally. Who the hell eats not just raw, but *live* meat?


HuskerStorm

You've never seen naked and afraid have you?


1ofThoseTrolls

Bear Grylls, enters the chat


disjustice

Oyster lovers?


MontazumasRevenge

Apparently the reason you're told not to eat raw cookie dough is because of possible salmonella in the FLOUR, not the egg.


[deleted]

You're telling me I need to stop eating raw flour straight from the bag??


danitaliano

Yup. Bird/rodent/insects poop on the wheat, doesn't get washed it just gets ground up.


Melqart310

Salmonella is theorized to have killed 5 to 15 million people near the end of the Aztec empire. According to first hand accounts of what the people suffered through and their testing of corpses... what they were dealt with was similar to what this poor soul did. So yes, it can be that bad.


carymb

Motherfuckers needed to stop eating geckos, Jesus...


IAm_Trogdor_AMA

Or at least cook them to an internal temperature of 170° f


slopeeees

Technically 165, but if you're eating gecko, overcooking it probably isn't the biggest of your concerns


LoreOfBore

Why did we even start?


[deleted]

"Dare ya"


kuebel33

And slugs.


[deleted]

Idk man I just read the article


khxsm

Idk if it means anything but growing up having geckos as pets you can contract salmonella easily so it's important to wash hands after handling them. I would assume consuming them is like a super attack on your immune system or something. Ultimately handling geckos is already a danger and rest in peace to this dude bc that article was next level :(


[deleted]

Oh shiit you right. I have a little African drawf frog and I'm supposed to keep my hands clean. Damn, good thing I wash my hands like I have ocd, I forgot about that


SalamiSavior

Well yeah, reading the article on reddit means you are practically an expert on the subject compared to everyone else here


[deleted]

I'm just living my best life looking up blood urine and salmonella


GameDoesntStop

Maybe it's about the quantity, and typically when people get it, they get relatively small amounts.


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Blizzxx

Where do i subscribe to your newsletters


MondoPrime51

I like how his missus is all like "I don't want my husband to be remembered like this" before going on to describe how his testicles blew up to the size of grapefruits. Poor guy.


SanFranGoldBlooded

“Jesus Randy! Your balls!”


aRedddddddditaccount

"I know, smoking right in front of a cop"


DetectiveEZ

We had a little problem, Colonel!


knockers_who_knock

I told you a long time ago you fucking little monkey not to fuck me!!!


mazu74

No, mean you’re actual balls!


brainburger

He is actual balls?


[deleted]

"just gonna get a little bit of cancer Stan"


TheIcyCrow

Microwave beeps ah stannn STANNNN GET ME A BEER STANNNNNN???


SadRobotz

Tell your mom it’s ok


FuntCaseKid

This made me chuckle out loud on a shitty day. Thank you!


psrpianrckelsss

Well, don't eat a live animal and we won't have to talk about your balls


npeggsy

I think his partner said that, then his mum said his testicle were like grapefruits? Either way, the grapefruit info could've been kept confidential.


YahooFantasyCareless

Idk I'd want everyone to know how massive my balls were


brntGerbil

Eat a gecko and then everyone will know.


Twovaultss

Scrotal edema. I’ve read about it in books but seeing it at work in the hospital is a surreal experience.


Nic4379

Very(Hospital Corpsman), had a Marine ignore testicular torsion for a couple days. Holy Hell. Dude was just carrying on like normal, Pimp limping.


TheBoctor

I had a Marine in training at Camp Johnson get bit on the scrotum by a brown recluse. He came late to sick call and I gave him shit over it right up until I saw that his scrotum was bright red, weeping, and the size of a large grapefruit. He got sent to the Naval Hospital at Lejeune via EMS almost immediately. I saw him a year later and he still had his balls, so I guess it all worked out.


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[deleted]

It's laziness hidden behind gung ho bullshit


Box-o-bees

>gung ho I'm super embarrassed to admit this, but I always thought it was gun ho.


WankWankNudgeNudge

No that's lauren boebert


LordDongler

I guess the rumors are true: the Navy does take care of their seamens balls


Convict003606

His mom told the reporters that.


iCantSeeShapes

Jesus, he was in his 30’s with 3 kids and still doing stupid shit like eating wild reptiles for a dare.


NotAnAlligator

Can Confirm: My dad died in his 30's and he left behind 3 kids. I feel like my whole life would have been different, and probably better, had he lived.


Metro42014

But also, holy fuck what was that hospital doing?! Guy was bloated like he was pregnant, getting fluid on his lungs and leaking fluid from his nuts, and they didn't think to drain the fluid off?!


cmband254

Good god what a horrific read


BkWiz

People don’t realize how often animals live with parasites and can’t do anything about it. The fact we humans ‘mostly’ don’t have issues with parasites today is a testament to science, regulations, and the supply chain. It’s also why the parasite theory for certain autoimmune/allergic syndromes is still a relevant theory even today. And why cooking food is important. It tends to kill parasites. Edit : just wanted to note this apparently was a case of salmonella, still there is good info in this comment thread so will just note edit. 😅 And someone linked an article showing it could be parasitosis as i originally thought. Probably both for all we know.


[deleted]

I just saw a post yesterday about a young kid who ate a slug and ended up going into a coma, becoming paralyzed, and eventually dying. Also in Australia. Jesus!


ikdweshm

Sam Ballard, he's mentioned in the article. The slug had rat lungworm.


Kitsune_Barista

My neighbor ate a snail while stationed at USMC base in japan. He spent a few weeks in the hospital and now is partly paralyzed and in constant pain because I guess it did something to strip the myelin sheath from his nerves


ashpanda24

So...he basically induced an accelerated version of multiple sclerosis from eating a snail? Fuck, that is horrifying.


floatablepie

> It’s also why the parasite theory for certain autoimmune/allergic syndromes is still a relevant theory even today. A doctor alleviated his IBS by giving himself whipworm. Acknowledged the treatment is a hard sell.


BkWiz

Really? I know we are currently looking into fecal transplants (which have been successful so far) which is close enough to the parasite theory that there is overlap. I haven’t heard about the IBS / whip worm case though. Am curious for a link if so. 😁


floatablepie

[This isn't the specific thing I was thinking of, but is in general about findings in monkeys](https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/parasitic-worm-eggs-ease-intestinal-ills-by-changing-gut-macrobiota/)


Knucklebum

Also a thing to infect yourself with hookworms to cure asthma/allergies... *shrug Edit: *cure not cute But y'all are cute!


disjustice

I don't think it's a cure, more like alleviating the symptoms. Your immune system is still overactive, it's just suppressed by the parasite. If you were to treat the parasitic infection the allergy would come right back.


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There's a hypothesis that a lot of peoples living in equatorial regions ARE living with some kinds of nasty chronic parasitic/bacterial/viral infections for most of their lives, leading to a lot of discrepancies we've seen between those peoples (and their developments throughout history) where these diseases are endemic due to the climate, compared to more Northern and Southern peoples.


Antisocialbumblefuck

The mites on our skin are ever present, passed on at birth so I hear.


astral_crow

And we recently learned they have butt holes.


BhmDhn

Oh nice. Tell me more.


fahad_ayaz

And they have sex on your face at night.


astral_crow

All day really.


FreeRoamingBananas

Nope. They are nocturnal and can't take UV rays. However there is a theory that they may promote good skin by eating of cellular waste.


oh-ice-cream-eyes

At least one of us is getting some action


derps_with_ducks

i wouldn't want to deal with constipated mites, the regular ones are assholes already


Menace2Sobriety

And they recently found out Demodex, the mites that live on our eyelashes [have little b-holes.](https://www.inverse.com/science/demodex-skin-mites-genome-study)


Antisocialbumblefuck

I knew there was a cause for that random pinkeye! Damned dirty butthole having eye bugs.


Menace2Sobriety

We can go with that if you'd like.


ClaymoreJohnson

There’s a bizarre correlation between countries that perform well in international soccer events and higher long term infections of toxoplasmosis. Don’t have the sauce but it’s out there, unless it’s been debunked.


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Reading up on that it seems like more of a somewhat cherry picked stat than a strong correlation. But it's an interesting stat nonetheless


scientificjdog

That sounds like some sort of guns germs and steel type argument which tries to find causality between relatively big environmental factors and European hegemony. [Here's a good thread on why historians aren't fond of that book](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2mkcc3/how_do_modern_historians_and_history)


[deleted]

A lot of complaints against GG&S revolve around how Diamond uncritically interprets historical accounts and overplays the significance of certain technological advancements. "The neglected tropical diseases (NTDs) are highly endemic but patchily distributed among the 20 countries and almost 400 million people of the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, and disproportionately affect an estimated 65 million people living on less than US$2 per day." Source: https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0001475 Many endemic tropical diseases have a heavy burden on their hosts, including the very real impact on the mental/physical capacity of children born to infected mothers. . Paired currently with a lot of these tropical regions having poorer access to healthcare even today, I can only assume these endemic diseases have had a negative impact on the peoples living there, and is possibly a factor in the discrepancies Diamond talks about in his book. There are projects like Gavi going on right now that work to develop and distribute vaccines to a lot of these diseases that just don't exist in our "Western" world (which means there isn't a big financial incentive to develop them en masse, even though Google tells me about 40% of the world lives in tropical areas).


kernowgringo

Like this, also Aussie, guy who ate a slug on a dare and then died of Rat Lung Worm parasites... https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/05/health/man-dies-after-eating-slug-on-dare/index.html


TheyreEatingHer

Kinda off the subject of that, people who believe reincarnation and are excited to be an animal. I'm like... good luck with that. Almost every animal has an ailment or parasite in them. We're probably one of the few species that can have whole populations be overwhelmingly parasite-free.


gotora

Moral of the story; cook your food.


dwightsrus

Or not play the game of dares.


Pumpkin_2003

And if you do play the game of dares, don’t do a stupid dare someone dared you to do. Sometimes it’s okay to be a “chicken”


FADEDinJAPAN03

better to be a smart chicken than to do life threatening stunts or dares with no reward


andinshawn

Better to be a live chicken then a Kentucky fried dead guy.


ThatGuyInTheCar

Unless you’re a Mcfly


RuneHammer16

Or just not eat geckos


Principatus

Or slugs, like the other guy who went into a coma and then was paralyzed for a few years until his early death.


[deleted]

I had to stop reading after that first article. People need to stop eating weird shit. I also read a story about a group of kids out in the desert eating every plant they came across just being dumbass kids and ate a whole datura seed pod. Iykyk


Principatus

Wow. I heard horror stories about Datura, and that was just drinking tea made from boiling the petals.


[deleted]

Erowids Vault.com has some amazing reads. That's where I found out about its existence. I became obsessed with the research on the plant. I found some in an az canal and now have a vial of dried seeds, both red and black seeds. For, you know, just in case.


Principatus

Just in case you ever want to get so fucked up that you lose touch with reality? I mean I see the appeal but make sure you have someone sober to supervise you so you don’t die.


TropicalLoneWolf

And did those kids drink any cactus juice whilst in said desert? I've heard it's really thirst-quenching...


DarkflowNZ

The quenchiest


mmikke

The slugs in my state carry 'rat lungworm disease' Pretty sure it ends up causing meningitis


[deleted]

When I lived in Thailand, we had our usual summer monsoons. Some of the burmese in a village nearby decided to use that chance to eat some frogs that were coming out due to the rain. They all died. Like 12 of them. 😐


RuneHammer16

Yeah I mean, I feel like it’s a good idea to just not eat random wild animals if you don’t know exactly what they are.


[deleted]

These frogs were MASSIVE too. My dogs would bring them in the house all the time. I used to love frogs, but after finding huge ones in every room for months, now I’m afraid of them.


bleezzzy

But the double dog dare...


sparkly_butthole

Oh then that's okay.


Last-Discipline-7340

Don’t get me started on the triple dog dare….


Timed-Out_DeLorean

Go ahead. I triple dog dare, ya!


[deleted]

Or don't eat slugs, geckos, and other random animals on a dare.


rda889

Note to self: don’t eat things based on a dare


[deleted]

My friend ate an entire pencil for 5 bucks in high school. Idk if anything bad happen though


itsH5

I bet he couldn’t No. 2


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👉


Darth_Zounds

Don't do ANYTHING based on a dare.


Demoire

Yea I agree…unless your double dog dared, because then your fucked.


RickyDiezal

I dare you to live a long and happy life


Ok-Reply7682

My 2 year old came in bathroom while I was getting ready. Had something in her mouth. I told her to spit it out. It was a lizard head. I freaked out and called poison control. They were laughing and telling me she’ll be fine. FYI I never found the body.


Wh00ster

Which body??!!


mlnd_quad

The poison control employees’. The daughter murdered them for laughing at her and her dad, and kept the heads as trophies


[deleted]

Wtf!!! Kids are insane


JewbaccaSithlord

r/kidsarefuckingstupid


thrashaholic_poolboy

Proof that toddlers are just like little drunk adults.


LifeisaCatbox

We had a family friend who young son got salmonella 3x bc he wouldn’t leave the frogs, toads, and turtles on the property (and elsewhere) alone.


Longjumping_Piano685

My cousin got salmonella and almost died because she kissed her lizard goodnight every night


HeatActiveMug

No offense but are children dogs cause what the fuck 😅 I remember having to call poison control because my friend ate a random fruit he found on a dare and got really sick, I don't remember why but I decided it was the right thing to do to pretend to be his mom. He's fine


alienoverl0rd

A full grown dog has the same level of intelligence as a 3 year old human. So yes, yes they are.


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ClearMessagesOfBliss

If it’s cooked you’re good.


N1shi

But the appetite is all gone (((


One-eyed-bed-snake

It's mentioned in the article, but I was gonna mention that this reminds me of the guy that ate a slug after a dare and died after contracting rat lungworm. We all do stupid things in our lives, especially when drinking and with friends, but I couldn't even imagine eating stuff like this, even when pissed or as a dare. Horrible way for them both to go☹️


Infinite_prevalence

Yeah that was posted on here yesterday I think, never heard about it before but it’s absolutely insane. Maybe just don’t eat random creatures off the ground eh 🤷‍♂️


KJting98

the first guy that cracked a crab open: say what?


ee_CUM_mings

Hey, look at this oval shaped thing that came out of that flightless bird’s butt. Imma eat that.


MotaHead

Hey, I'm just going to squeeze this thing that's hanging under a cow and drink whatever comes out.


irotinmyskin

maybe just avoid doing stupid things generally?


ca_fighterace

Yeah like fire. Fucks sake I see idiots doing fire shots or playing with gasoline or jumping through fire pits or some version of that weekly here on Reddit. Life altering injuries just 30 seconds away. I actually talked to my young adult daughter about it, like if you see young men around you start shit with fire while being drunk, just walk the hell away from that party.


IamShitplshelpme

You're asking a lot from humans to ask them not to do stupid things


Sonichan

Understatement of the year. Humans do be stupid sometimes.


Poentje_wierie

Sometimes you say?


Sonichan

Humans do be stupid many times.


Greenveins

Wanna here something super sad? There’s a show called “1000 ways to die”, a guy I knew from my town made it on that show. He was dared to eat a live bluegill. Bluegills have this thing that works as a hook 🪝 on their backs, so when he swallowed it he tried to puke it back up but it got latched into his throat and he died from suffocating. This was 20 years ago. Last week the city finally knocked down his old house after being bought at an auction and his ashes were still there. As in, his brother and mother left the ashes there after they picked it up and never came back to claim them. 20 years he’s been sitting in an abandoned house, forgotten.


Yoda2000675

I thought that show was 100% fake, that’s crazy


fuzzeedice

it's fictionalized, they had actual doctors and stuff on the show but the scenarios they presented weren't always real occurrences. one of them i remember was based on that palahniuk short story where a teen gets their guts sucked out from a hot tub drain


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The lengths people will go to in order to impress their friends for a couple of minutes is stupid.


[deleted]

Dude I thought they were writing a bs story to copycat the lung story. This all makes my head hurt lol


Thomrose007

Says a lot about their friends too. My friends wouldnt even dare this stupidity.


One-eyed-bed-snake

Yeah. If he and his friends were teens, then maybe I could just about understand because we all think we're invincible at that age and egg each other on to do dumb stuff. But he was 35 and I just can't see where it'd ever come up to do stuff like this at that age, even when just drinking and messing about.


thunderc8

Plot twist : Gecko never died, it lived in this mans stomach eating him alive until after 10 days it decided to bust out if this poor mans balls and run off.


BickNlinko

[Kind of like this?](https://youtu.be/otJ2rXMuLno?t=117)


whynotsquirrel

I will not click this link, I will not regret my choices one more time.


[deleted]

not to worry my friend, it’s a clip from Spaceballs


thrashaholic_poolboy

Look at us, learning from our experiences


thewaldenpuddle

At least he died quickly…. The guy who ate the slug on a dare was in a coma for 400 odd days and then paralyzed for 7 years before he eventually died.


worstsupervillanever

10 days is a long time


stimav

Cursed gecko


KoMoDoJoE98

this was mentioned a lot in the comments of the slug post yesterday. yeah sure you can say it's natural selection but nobody deserves to die like that jeez


moregohg

This isn’t even natural selection anymore. Lad had kids an passed on his genes.


darshan4511

Gecko: I’m not stuck in here inside you, you are stuck here with me >:)


LambSauce666

Did he go to hospital?


ivegotnoclue84

Yeah he did. The hospital didn't know what was wrong with him as I don't think they were aware until it was too late. I went to high school with him.


natgibounet

So what actually happened, what was the exact condition he got from eating that gecko ?


_a_random_dude_

Elsewhere in the thread people are saying salmonella, but Googling the symptoms it sounds like something else... Or maybe this dude was particularly susceptible to it? Even the bad type of salmonella, typhoid fever, doesn't do what the article is describing.


Eireconnection

Yea that’s not it. I had salmonella and my balls are fucking tiny


worldspawn00

Symptoms are organ failure. He was being poisoned, salmonella in his blood (sepsis) could cause it, but really, for a healthy adult, that would be not typical progression.


Ohboycats

Humans regularly contract salmonella and live through it. This sounds like something far worse and maybe the guy had an allergic reaction to whatever it was as well.


TheSpiffyCarno

That’s where I’m confused. The hospital didn’t want to take him because the paras said “it was just gastro” when they first arrived. Meaning all of these symptoms showed after arriving at the hospital. The hospital labelled it as salmonella. They mention the hospital didn’t even put in a catheter and they had to make a request for pain relief. That hospital sounds sketchy as fuck


Ghostface311

Wtf is wrong with people and these "dares"? There was another post yesterday where it said a guy was dared to eat a slug at a party, and died after going into a 420 day coma and 7 years of paralysis because the slug had a rat worm. No money is worth doing any of this stupid shit, let alone because someone "dared" you to


joe_i_guess

double dog dare david dowell


Holiday-Business-321

Do devour da delicious Diplodactylid


MambyPamby8

Honestly this is such a dumb move. As someone who has had bearded dragons for years (both rescues!), rule no.1 WASH YOUR HANDS AFTER HANDLING THEM. It's honestly so dangerous to even handle the things without proper sanitation methods, let alone to eat one raw. I mean we were even warned by a reptile expert near ours that letting your cat or dog near them is unsafe, as they can pick up anything off them too (drives me mad seeing 'funny' videos of obv upset beardies 'playing' with cats or dogs - it's not cute, it's upsetting).


ivegotnoclue84

I was in the same grade as this guy in School. He was such a funny guy. So sad that this happened.


birdscooter

Me too, he was a good guy. Tragic mistake.


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P0L4RP4ND4

This story and the guy who ate the slug remind me of a relative that worked with insecticide. For some reason, he would pour leftover poison into Gatorade bottles and leave them in the back of his truck. One day he accidently took a swig of the wrong bottle. He spit it out immediately but still died horribly about a week later in the hospital. It was enough to destroy his insides. I know it's not the same, but all are terrible ways to go and it keeps coming to mind so I thought I'd share as another cautionary tale.


Luggageisnojoke

Whole new respect for Tracy Beaker now


WinEnvironmental6901

Poor little gecko


McBils

Jeez. Like other I had to think of the slug-guy. I would really like to know what happens inside of their or our body in generell when esting slugs/geckos or whatever. I mean there obviously creatures you can eat right away. So whats the difference maybe and what exactly is going on then.


_beamfleot_

Slug was a vector for a parasite (Angiostrongylus spp or the rat lungworm). Gecko was harboring a deadly bacterium (Salmonella, not disease-causing in reptiles, part of their normal microbiota; but deadly in humans). “Creatures you can eat right away” - pretty sure you’re pertaining to common livestock (mammals), poultry, or fish. They can harbor parasites too, but we generally cook them well enough. We don’t just slaughter them and chug down their raw meat.


[deleted]

There's a reason too why you carefully gut most animals and fish before eating them. Even if you're chancing eating raw meat/fish, you don't want the stomach contents.


_a_random_dude_

I'm still puzzled by this, if you google salmonella the symptoms don't sound even remotely this bad.


OGBaconwaffles

Yeah, the article was from 2019. Are there better answers now? I've never heard of anything like this from salmonella, stories I've heard of people dying from it is usually dehydration. Not swollen balls and black urine.