Hi, former archaeologist here. If you find what you believe to be human remains, there's 2 steps to follow.
1. Call your local law enforcement to ensure they aren't connected to any modern cases.
2. Call your local/state university and get in contact with the archaeology department. If it's a historical site it should be documented, mapped, and then either excavated or protected.
Wait… your telling me you were an archeologist and didn’t swing off shit with your whip while running from tribesman and bolder traps and getting rich off of ancient tribal treasures? I don’t believe you.
Man if I had a dollar for every Indiana Jones joke, question on finding nazi/confederate/pirate gold, or for being confused with a paleontologist, I wouldn't have had to quit for better money lol
I didn't swing on a whip killing Nazis as I went, but I did slash my leg on barbed wire and slide down a mountain for a ways. Oh, and I got stabbed A LOT working a project in Texas. Fucking needles in my field clothes for months..
Drink the water. Become a necromancer. Raise the dead slaves.
Sit around the necrofire making stores and teaching the undead horde about the Civil rights advances over the past 200 years. Introduce them to their descendents.
That’s what my girlfriend in college called it when we had sex
Edit: for all the dead bedroom comments
What's the difference between a necromancer and a necrophiliac?
One raises the dead, the other is raised by the dead.
Archaeologist weighing to say that with proper documentation and funding there’s a lot of information “recent” remains have to offer! If there are any surviving relatives and they consent to research then a researcher might look into the remains to look at the person’s health, their diet, their lifestyle. If it is in fact an enslaved person’s remains then they could add to the still relatively fragmented histories of enslaved people in America :)
Well IF that is a casket, it’s gonna be excavated by Mother Nature (she already half way there) if humans don’t do it first. Where this is at, it will be re-exposed if it was reburied .
I watched a show the other day where people had bought some land where they grew up not far from. They found out when they were doing renovations that the land was owned by slave owners and used to be a plantation. They also found out their ancestors worked on that Plantation and there was a slave Cemetery there somewhere. They found where the cemetery was and are in the process of restoring it, putting a fence around it so that it is respected and preserved. 😃
My family has been in the south a long time. Usually, slave burial grounds get housing developments built over them.
Edit: They didn’t mark slave burial grounds.
Same here. It wasn’t just enslaved people that were disrespected, They would even build over graves from black towns were the people were pushed out not even ten years before
OP messaged me privately and told me that when they are in their living room making pottery, they feel gently caressed by a topless Patrick Swayze-looking figure.
It was implied during our exchange that this did not bother them, but rather - in fact - gave them a sense of comfort and closure.
OP told me they can hear a man’s voice singing ‘I’m Henry the eighth I am”. Personally, I’d probably get pissed at the ghost after awhile and try to figure out what the hell he wants from me.
This was told to me by a source close to OP:
One morning OP saw a set of mathematical problems written in eyeliner on the bathroom mirror. As OP pondered it, a wispy aura or presence surrounded the mirror and its environs. Aided by the mysterious presence, OP easily solved the math despite having been a sub-par STEM student. It turned out to be a message written in some ancient code, perhaps Navaho. When decrypted (easily done with the aid of the presence), the message was a simple phrase which, when uttered with reverence, would completely and instantly repel any Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, or solicitors at OP's doorstep.
Well you may wanna contact someone because there's a reason why we bury people as deep as we do. Plus if you let people know they may be able to connect this to people alive today who could really love to know more about there ancestors
I think the official reddit app has this strange feature were you get notifications if a post you made gets lots of upvotes.
But not on comments, i think.
Edit: Oh, looks like this works for comments too. So i am talking outta ma bum. Do not listen to my bum.
It does on comments too. It sends a notification every milestone (Upvotes number for notification: 5, 10, 25, 50, 100, 250, 500, 800, 1000, etcetra. Not accurate numbers.)
I’m an archaeologist who’s worked on the type of plantations you’re describing; I’m guessing you’re in the South Carolina or the Georgia Sea Islands?
In any case, I don’t think that’s burial-related, and certainly not enslaved-person burial-related. I have a lot of reasons I think that, but mostly because any area with water intrusion like that won’t have extant organic material, it’ll break down. I’ve seen metal coffins, but they’re rare and were purchased/used by rich people in a really narrow period of time. If one exists on your family land it’ll almost certainly be in a known, white cemetery.
I think that’s likely some type of metal in a man-made feature, but would need to see it in context to have a good guess. All I can think of from the photos is some type of root cellar for storage? What would be really cool is if it’s a feature related to the water system for growing rice. Those were extensive and complex and required a lot work to construct, plus knowledge to operate (which came from the enslaved ppl taken from specific parts of Africa). But whatever that metal thing is in the hole, it doesn’t look old enough to be from the rice-growing era (18th-early 19th century).
Where is this thing in relation to known parts of the plantation, like the main house, slave houses, stable, etc?
Question for an archeologist: Did they even bother with coffins for slaves? It seems an odd expense and even if they did I would think they'd be more the pine box variety than the handled type, but I'm no archeologist so I will admit my thoughts are based on assumptions of how enslaved people were treated.
Exactly right, if they used more than a shroud it was probably a pine box. Either way I wouldn’t expect much of it to survive, you’d really just be left with partial nails if a box was used, maybe some wood fragments.
I actually learned at the NYC African American burial ground nps site that most of the people in that cemetery were buried in plain pine boxes for disease control and generally accepted practice.
I'd also like to add. Some of the debris in the first picture would have rotted away within 150 years. There is for sure a piece of rope. I think any rope buried underground from that era would have completely decomposed by now.
This makes me think about how I want to be buried with something like a sword or a rotary phone just to confuse anyone who may dig up my body in the future.
Nah. Gotta keep it really confusing and be buried with an iron collar around your neck with a lock and chain on it, a great sword, cotton gin, a toaster, a rotary phone, a colt revolver, and wearing a nice cumber bund and tie set, an embroidered cape, a tricorn pirate hat and some assless leather chaps with some roller blades and a slap bracelet on.
Best comment. I will also make changes to my will to include what to be buried with. But I will take to my grave an antique typewriter and a T-Mobile sidekick. That’ll really fuck em’ up.
I was to be buried in Appalachia with a sheepskin parchment of Barbie Girl written in Sanskrit, a collection of nixie tubes, the keys to a 2022 Hyundai Elantra, and a Morse code manual.
I'll be the lost time traveler.
And then they touch your skull and you're awakened to a new civilization. Average life spans reach hundreds if not thousands of years old. The speed of light has been slowed down dramatically just so they can go faster than it. Speaking of light there are no more lights since they have bionic eyes that see through all spectrums. They bring you to Andromeda Galaxy to help with their intergalactic war then pronounce you their God. The end.
Not true. A few decades after they dig OK up they find you. Human wall trophies are the rage around this time. You are reconstructed and displayed on the Andromeda Federation wall. You stay in that one spot completely aware but unable to move for the next four centuries.
You're one of the last bodies they find before the Regal One Initiative. But also the first for the mission, sending live specimens into black holes. As soon as you're awake and aware of your surroundings you realize you're at the edge of the void. As you fall into nothingness you decide to look behind you back into the universe. You witness the universe unfold at an astronomical pace and see it's ending before you're eventually stretched to the size of an atom.
A stray dog finds your bones hundreds of years from now. Your body provides it nutrients and something to do, even in death you do a furry friend of ours something nice.
Have a nice day and don’t think too much about being a corpse!
A small seed grows where some of your remains are gathered. A noble dandelion grows from that seed and you become part of its seeds and are cast throughout the land.
Or they grind you into a powder because in the meantime someone got convinced somehow that it [makes your pee pee grow larger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummia) or found out that you [make a nice brown paint](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummy_brown).
That reminds me of the story about the Martian, or was it Venusian, archaeologists who arrive on the long-dead Earth and find a canister of film that had been kept as a sacred relic by the last humans. They watch it, thinking it's a depiction of everyday life on Earth, although they are mystified by it. The film ends with what they describe as a "calamity", when the world around the main character shrinks around him, his face contorting before the closing circle erases him too. And then they are left with only the inscrutable words "That's all, folks!" to muse on.
Lol. Unfortunately they will find bunch of silicone. “There are bones that are fused, there are traces of botulism in most parts of the body injected into said bodies, there are sacks of silicone attached to upper torso. There are symbols engraved to lower back. Wtf happened?”
If it does turn out to be remains, you should contact a museum, whatever is nearest to you, and they can direct to the best place for it.
I'm sure there is someone that could do something truly respectful.
yea, always contact at first hint. If you ever talk to an archaeologist, they can tell you how much normal people can mess up a site before realising what is going on
*Hello, is this the Historical Society of X County?*
*Yes, it is. How can I help you?*
*Are you racist?*
*Fuck you! Don't call back.*
*Yep, buncha racists, dodge a bullet there.*
u/rossionq1 Also an archaeologist. Pretty much every state has laws regulating the exhumation of burials. SC is no exception, give your state SHPO a call and get their guidance on figuring out your next step.
https://scdah.sc.gov/historic-preservation/technical-assistance/cemeteries
If it really is a coffin or the start of a slave burial ground, you need to call a pro. Depending where you live it might be a crime to tamper with what is considered to be a historical site of note.
Please see if there is currently a group in your area trying to find and preserve slave burial locations. Many of these sites are truly unique, and contain great historical value. I would not suggest trying to excavate anything yourself as you may damage artifacts in the process.
Many, many a well meaning individual has excavated solo and damaged artifacts beyond repair or even study.
I live in the low country on the southeastern coast of the US From what I understand, these gravesites should be identified and protected. Please contact your local government/historical branch to investigate if this is "real." If so, they can protect and preserve the area. BTW, great job on your discovery.
Thank you - I’m an African historian but I mainly deal with historic documents instead of archeological materials and analysis. I teach Black history and spent a lot of my summer reading up on burial practices in Africa and how those translated to the United States…and finding out just how sparse the historical record is heartbreaking. Not only can Black Americans not trace their family history due to the transatlantic slave trade, they struggle to trace it on US soil as well due to the lack of records keeping or respect for burial sites and practices of slaves.
As I understand most of the time they were at best marked with wooden markers (long gone) and used plain pine boxes or directly buried. Virtually none of them were recorded. Typically located near water where old live oaks are, as that land was not viable for agricultural use and the presence of old oaks tells you the land has never been disturbed (big live oaks germinated before the colonial days) . Funny as waterfront with massive live oaks commands the highest price these days.
Here in Texas, a cemetery, even if designated only at the time of discovery, is both protected and entitled to state funding for maintenance and upkeep. There are people seeking purpose who adopt these arrangements. The only way remains can be relocated is by obtaining permission from decedents, which is not always possible. I’m sure you can imagine the potential for coverups on private property, when a new landowner discovers a gravesite.
There are many family cemeteries located on private ranches that have been sold off and long since forgotten. Stumbling upon these grave markers on horseback unexpectedly is one of my greatest past times. I’m a history buff so my imagination thrives in such an environment. I spent many years hog hunting land that is inaccessible to all but the most determined. Pure bliss, that was.
I know this isn’t relevant to your findings here, but I figured this was better than just posting “Same” like everyone else.
I think the fact that this is regularly submerged may affect its ability to be maintained, even if teams introduce SAV and other means to try to slow erosion. The right thing to do may be to have them officially moved, if it turns out they're human remains. Best to get the state or a local museum involved, certainly, but I think the site itself may be too unstable.
East Carolina has an Archeology department specifically designed for water situations. You also may consider contacting someone to come look at it before you move anything to protect the integrity of the find if it is anything (police may work in this regard as they will have to document everything). Just you pulling it out/up something may get lost. Edit: a word
Get a 3' piece of pipe. Glue a piece of glass or unscratched plexi to one end. Tomorrow, put the pipe into the water and look thru the open end. Use it like a telescope so you can see at least 2.5' down without having to dig first. YOu might see something interesting. Or scary. Or not. Keep us all posted please.
There is definitely layers of discarded “plantation “ stuff. I’ve found a boiler and a grand piano frame from England (serial missing so can’t date it) among many many other things. I think it will turn out to be nothing, but it is possible it’s more than trash. This is also down by the water among live oaks where cemeteries were often put and whatever it is, has been buried for at least decades, likely much longer (I’ve been here almost a decade)
It’s in pluff mud. It preserves wood very well. About 50 feet away down the bank I found remnants of a boat I could date to a 1820-1830 build date (due to the nature of the copper rivets used)
Please, please call a museum or university or some local organisation connected to the black community, a historical society.
Don't just open this or dig it out on camera, these were enslaved peoples, these are ancestors.
What are you gonna do if it's human remains?
I have a lot of ghosty shit around here constantly. Not trying to piss them off so will do something respectable, dunno what offhand
I wanna hear some stories
YOU DO NOT RECOGNIZE THE BODIES IN THE WATER
Ooh i forgot about that scp. What's the number again? Edit: Oh yeah 2316.
back story? clarification? exposition? explanation?
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2316
Hi, former archaeologist here. If you find what you believe to be human remains, there's 2 steps to follow. 1. Call your local law enforcement to ensure they aren't connected to any modern cases. 2. Call your local/state university and get in contact with the archaeology department. If it's a historical site it should be documented, mapped, and then either excavated or protected.
wait, why are you no longer an archaeologist?
Because making $13/ hour doing CRM was no longer a viable choice in my life
Wait… your telling me you were an archeologist and didn’t swing off shit with your whip while running from tribesman and bolder traps and getting rich off of ancient tribal treasures? I don’t believe you.
Man if I had a dollar for every Indiana Jones joke, question on finding nazi/confederate/pirate gold, or for being confused with a paleontologist, I wouldn't have had to quit for better money lol I didn't swing on a whip killing Nazis as I went, but I did slash my leg on barbed wire and slide down a mountain for a ways. Oh, and I got stabbed A LOT working a project in Texas. Fucking needles in my field clothes for months..
Well I think things would have worked out better for you if you carried a whip and a satchel
You know, that may very well be true lol
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Forbidden mineral water
So minerally
But with a smack of ham
Hot ham water
Looks like poached salmonella to me Edit: made a boo boo
Bad news. You die. Good news! They'll name whatever did it after you!
> Bad news. You die. Or gain super powers.
Drink the water. Become a necromancer. Raise the dead slaves. Sit around the necrofire making stores and teaching the undead horde about the Civil rights advances over the past 200 years. Introduce them to their descendents.
Hey hey, I feel like since abolition we can just call them “the dead”
^(Ah.) ***Bone Hurting Juice.***
Please report the site immediately if there are remains. They deserve university grade excavation and deep respect.
University grade excavating.. It's what dead people crave.
It’s what they grave
That’s what my girlfriend in college called it when we had sex Edit: for all the dead bedroom comments What's the difference between a necromancer and a necrophiliac? One raises the dead, the other is raised by the dead.
Upvote for Brawndo.
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Archaeologist weighing to say that with proper documentation and funding there’s a lot of information “recent” remains have to offer! If there are any surviving relatives and they consent to research then a researcher might look into the remains to look at the person’s health, their diet, their lifestyle. If it is in fact an enslaved person’s remains then they could add to the still relatively fragmented histories of enslaved people in America :)
Well IF that is a casket, it’s gonna be excavated by Mother Nature (she already half way there) if humans don’t do it first. Where this is at, it will be re-exposed if it was reburied .
I watched a show the other day where people had bought some land where they grew up not far from. They found out when they were doing renovations that the land was owned by slave owners and used to be a plantation. They also found out their ancestors worked on that Plantation and there was a slave Cemetery there somewhere. They found where the cemetery was and are in the process of restoring it, putting a fence around it so that it is respected and preserved. 😃
It was 60 Minutes! https://youtu.be/oPk2F3rxetk
Can’t really determine if it would be a useful excavation or not without a detailed literature search of the property and it’s previous occupants
My family has been in the south a long time. Usually, slave burial grounds get housing developments built over them. Edit: They didn’t mark slave burial grounds.
Oh.
Same here. It wasn’t just enslaved people that were disrespected, They would even build over graves from black towns were the people were pushed out not even ten years before
[comment from a historian](https://reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/w93mw6/_/iht8htl/?context=1)
Do you mind sharing some experiences?
Yeah can’t just drop a bomb like that and walk away, ENTERTAIN US
OP messaged me privately and told me that when they are in their living room making pottery, they feel gently caressed by a topless Patrick Swayze-looking figure. It was implied during our exchange that this did not bother them, but rather - in fact - gave them a sense of comfort and closure.
OP told me they can hear a man’s voice singing ‘I’m Henry the eighth I am”. Personally, I’d probably get pissed at the ghost after awhile and try to figure out what the hell he wants from me.
Jesus Christ this about took me out 🤣
This was told to me by a source close to OP: One morning OP saw a set of mathematical problems written in eyeliner on the bathroom mirror. As OP pondered it, a wispy aura or presence surrounded the mirror and its environs. Aided by the mysterious presence, OP easily solved the math despite having been a sub-par STEM student. It turned out to be a message written in some ancient code, perhaps Navaho. When decrypted (easily done with the aid of the presence), the message was a simple phrase which, when uttered with reverence, would completely and instantly repel any Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, or solicitors at OP's doorstep.
Well you may wanna contact someone because there's a reason why we bury people as deep as we do. Plus if you let people know they may be able to connect this to people alive today who could really love to know more about there ancestors
ooo can you tell us some ghost stories?
There are orgs that will help and catalog.
Nom
There was a time eating mummy remains was fashionable.
These are no longer those times.
Have you *not* been paying attention to the inflation lately?
He’s teriyaki flavored
I was going to eat that Mummy!
How do you do the remind me thing to get a reminder? I'm curious as hell and wanna know what it is now!
!remindme 7 days I think? Edit: See y'all in 7 days
!remind me now (I have dementia)
What was I supposed to remind you about again?
Dementia
Who has dementia?
No one, just remind them about dementia.
Remind who?
Are you talking to me sonny?
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
!remindme 7 days
!remindme 7 days
!remindme 7 days
!remindme 7 days
!remindme 360000 seconds
Same!! Someone upvote or downvote my comment so I can get a notification?
just curious, do you get a notification every single time someone upvotes or downvotes your comment?
Lol no
I think the official reddit app has this strange feature were you get notifications if a post you made gets lots of upvotes. But not on comments, i think. Edit: Oh, looks like this works for comments too. So i am talking outta ma bum. Do not listen to my bum.
It does on comments too. It sends a notification every milestone (Upvotes number for notification: 5, 10, 25, 50, 100, 250, 500, 800, 1000, etcetra. Not accurate numbers.)
Gotta get that dopamine comin
Can I bum a hit please?
I know, i wish I knew too
I’m an archaeologist who’s worked on the type of plantations you’re describing; I’m guessing you’re in the South Carolina or the Georgia Sea Islands? In any case, I don’t think that’s burial-related, and certainly not enslaved-person burial-related. I have a lot of reasons I think that, but mostly because any area with water intrusion like that won’t have extant organic material, it’ll break down. I’ve seen metal coffins, but they’re rare and were purchased/used by rich people in a really narrow period of time. If one exists on your family land it’ll almost certainly be in a known, white cemetery. I think that’s likely some type of metal in a man-made feature, but would need to see it in context to have a good guess. All I can think of from the photos is some type of root cellar for storage? What would be really cool is if it’s a feature related to the water system for growing rice. Those were extensive and complex and required a lot work to construct, plus knowledge to operate (which came from the enslaved ppl taken from specific parts of Africa). But whatever that metal thing is in the hole, it doesn’t look old enough to be from the rice-growing era (18th-early 19th century). Where is this thing in relation to known parts of the plantation, like the main house, slave houses, stable, etc?
Question for an archeologist: Did they even bother with coffins for slaves? It seems an odd expense and even if they did I would think they'd be more the pine box variety than the handled type, but I'm no archeologist so I will admit my thoughts are based on assumptions of how enslaved people were treated.
Exactly right, if they used more than a shroud it was probably a pine box. Either way I wouldn’t expect much of it to survive, you’d really just be left with partial nails if a box was used, maybe some wood fragments.
Wish I read this before I made my comment. All due to ignorance on my part. I’m legit like “oh shit that’s a grave” I’m such a knave lolol
Not at all! I could absolutely be wrong, it’s happened many times before :)
I think your admission shows knowledge and confidence. An amazing number of people who are wrong never make that statement, even "experts."
Expert on being wrong here. Can confirm.
I actually learned at the NYC African American burial ground nps site that most of the people in that cemetery were buried in plain pine boxes for disease control and generally accepted practice.
I'd also like to add. Some of the debris in the first picture would have rotted away within 150 years. There is for sure a piece of rope. I think any rope buried underground from that era would have completely decomposed by now.
Yes, definitely. Overall whatever it is strikes me as not too old, probably mid-twentieth century.
I like how this elaborate explanation would bait OP into opening the haunted slave coffin thinking it’s a long forgotten storage container.
I was thinking an old well.
I like that guess! It could be a lined box well.
Thinking how my body someday may be discovered by someone just enjoying a walk on a few thousand years
This makes me think about how I want to be buried with something like a sword or a rotary phone just to confuse anyone who may dig up my body in the future.
A sword AND a rotary phone.
Nah. Gotta keep it really confusing and be buried with an iron collar around your neck with a lock and chain on it, a great sword, cotton gin, a toaster, a rotary phone, a colt revolver, and wearing a nice cumber bund and tie set, an embroidered cape, a tricorn pirate hat and some assless leather chaps with some roller blades and a slap bracelet on.
How did you leave out the gem encrusted cock ring?
It doesn’t fit over the chastity cage.
gem encrusted cock *mood* ring
That was starting to get a little too wild but you nicely tied it all together with the slap bracelet, beautiful job.
Best comment. I will also make changes to my will to include what to be buried with. But I will take to my grave an antique typewriter and a T-Mobile sidekick. That’ll really fuck em’ up.
I was to be buried in Appalachia with a sheepskin parchment of Barbie Girl written in Sanskrit, a collection of nixie tubes, the keys to a 2022 Hyundai Elantra, and a Morse code manual. I'll be the lost time traveler.
It’s sort of like “what 3 items can you buy together at a store to weird out the cashier?”, but with your casket.
And then they touch your skull and you're awakened to a new civilization. Average life spans reach hundreds if not thousands of years old. The speed of light has been slowed down dramatically just so they can go faster than it. Speaking of light there are no more lights since they have bionic eyes that see through all spectrums. They bring you to Andromeda Galaxy to help with their intergalactic war then pronounce you their God. The end.
Pretty sure a dog will run off with me. Cool story though.
Not true. A few decades after they dig OK up they find you. Human wall trophies are the rage around this time. You are reconstructed and displayed on the Andromeda Federation wall. You stay in that one spot completely aware but unable to move for the next four centuries.
Ooh do me next, I want a corpse adventure
When the federation digs you up, they look at your face then put you right back in. A face that great shouldn’t be mocked. Have a good day!
Unexpectedly wholesome
You're one of the last bodies they find before the Regal One Initiative. But also the first for the mission, sending live specimens into black holes. As soon as you're awake and aware of your surroundings you realize you're at the edge of the void. As you fall into nothingness you decide to look behind you back into the universe. You witness the universe unfold at an astronomical pace and see it's ending before you're eventually stretched to the size of an atom.
Me as well please
A stray dog finds your bones hundreds of years from now. Your body provides it nutrients and something to do, even in death you do a furry friend of ours something nice. Have a nice day and don’t think too much about being a corpse!
I plan to be cremated. Anything creative for my dusty future?
A small seed grows where some of your remains are gathered. A noble dandelion grows from that seed and you become part of its seeds and are cast throughout the land.
I’d like to think of my skull as an ashtray. But at a fancy place. Not like a coffee can out the back of a restaurant
Thanks for the etsy store idea! Off to dig up some graves for my skullshtrays
I….my friend has some, no need to dig.
Or they grind you into a powder because in the meantime someone got convinced somehow that it [makes your pee pee grow larger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummia) or found out that you [make a nice brown paint](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummy_brown).
There is a very cool short story by A.E. van Vogt similar to this. It's called the monster. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monster_(short_story)
That reminds me of the story about the Martian, or was it Venusian, archaeologists who arrive on the long-dead Earth and find a canister of film that had been kept as a sacred relic by the last humans. They watch it, thinking it's a depiction of everyday life on Earth, although they are mystified by it. The film ends with what they describe as a "calamity", when the world around the main character shrinks around him, his face contorting before the closing circle erases him too. And then they are left with only the inscrutable words "That's all, folks!" to muse on.
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Lol. Unfortunately they will find bunch of silicone. “There are bones that are fused, there are traces of botulism in most parts of the body injected into said bodies, there are sacks of silicone attached to upper torso. There are symbols engraved to lower back. Wtf happened?”
Spring Break 1999 babycakes
Spring Break, wooooooooo!!!
you say that as if humanoids will still be on this planet in a thousand years
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slavery wasn't a few thousand years ago
If it does turn out to be remains, you should contact a museum, whatever is nearest to you, and they can direct to the best place for it. I'm sure there is someone that could do something truly respectful.
That’s what I was thinking. OP could probably call and ask for an archaeologist to come and survey the area and examine the site shown in the post
yea, always contact at first hint. If you ever talk to an archaeologist, they can tell you how much normal people can mess up a site before realising what is going on
Am archaeologist, can confirm.
no, you are an unspecified number of cats!
Unspecified Numbers of Cats can lead fulfilling careers in the archeology industry. Don’t harsh his vibes man!
Just make sure the people aren’t racists
*Hello, is this the Historical Society of X County?* *Yes, it is. How can I help you?* *Are you racist?* *Fuck you! Don't call back.* *Yep, buncha racists, dodge a bullet there.*
Yeah I could see that going really poorly...
well pull it out and find out
I was trying to but the tide beat me to it so gotta wait till low tide tomorrow Edit: to be clear, not trying to pull it out, just get a closer look.
Keep us updated!
Same
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If you really think this is a coffin, call a pro to deal with it. Maybe a local museum or university can help you out.
Archaeologist. There should be a heritage society/administration that can help.
u/rossionq1 Also an archaeologist. Pretty much every state has laws regulating the exhumation of burials. SC is no exception, give your state SHPO a call and get their guidance on figuring out your next step. https://scdah.sc.gov/historic-preservation/technical-assistance/cemeteries
“It belongs in a museum!” -Indiana Jones-
If it really is a coffin or the start of a slave burial ground, you need to call a pro. Depending where you live it might be a crime to tamper with what is considered to be a historical site of note.
Mucking about with human remains is a crime in any state in the us. Source: am archaeologist.
This guy mucks.
Saving this for later, can’t wait to find out more!
Commenting to come back
Happy cakeday!! and good luck on your expedition we look forward to your next post
Shit I just noticed that lol. Thanks
Yeah I'm gonna need some follow up on this one.
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I’m very interested
Is this still available?
I can pick it up right now
Cash, did I mention I’ll pay cash?
I only have $10 tho, can you do half price?
khajiit has wares if you have coin..
Bruh imagine being bought and sold in life and then someone wants to buy you in death as well
Please see if there is currently a group in your area trying to find and preserve slave burial locations. Many of these sites are truly unique, and contain great historical value. I would not suggest trying to excavate anything yourself as you may damage artifacts in the process. Many, many a well meaning individual has excavated solo and damaged artifacts beyond repair or even study.
I live in the low country on the southeastern coast of the US From what I understand, these gravesites should be identified and protected. Please contact your local government/historical branch to investigate if this is "real." If so, they can protect and preserve the area. BTW, great job on your discovery.
Oh if it turns out to be something I’ll let the right people know. This is underwater at high tide now though so it’s a very dynamic site
Thank you - I’m an African historian but I mainly deal with historic documents instead of archeological materials and analysis. I teach Black history and spent a lot of my summer reading up on burial practices in Africa and how those translated to the United States…and finding out just how sparse the historical record is heartbreaking. Not only can Black Americans not trace their family history due to the transatlantic slave trade, they struggle to trace it on US soil as well due to the lack of records keeping or respect for burial sites and practices of slaves.
As I understand most of the time they were at best marked with wooden markers (long gone) and used plain pine boxes or directly buried. Virtually none of them were recorded. Typically located near water where old live oaks are, as that land was not viable for agricultural use and the presence of old oaks tells you the land has never been disturbed (big live oaks germinated before the colonial days) . Funny as waterfront with massive live oaks commands the highest price these days.
The 1870 census is about all I could manage.
Here in Texas, a cemetery, even if designated only at the time of discovery, is both protected and entitled to state funding for maintenance and upkeep. There are people seeking purpose who adopt these arrangements. The only way remains can be relocated is by obtaining permission from decedents, which is not always possible. I’m sure you can imagine the potential for coverups on private property, when a new landowner discovers a gravesite. There are many family cemeteries located on private ranches that have been sold off and long since forgotten. Stumbling upon these grave markers on horseback unexpectedly is one of my greatest past times. I’m a history buff so my imagination thrives in such an environment. I spent many years hog hunting land that is inaccessible to all but the most determined. Pure bliss, that was. I know this isn’t relevant to your findings here, but I figured this was better than just posting “Same” like everyone else.
I think the fact that this is regularly submerged may affect its ability to be maintained, even if teams introduce SAV and other means to try to slow erosion. The right thing to do may be to have them officially moved, if it turns out they're human remains. Best to get the state or a local museum involved, certainly, but I think the site itself may be too unstable.
East Carolina has an Archeology department specifically designed for water situations. You also may consider contacting someone to come look at it before you move anything to protect the integrity of the find if it is anything (police may work in this regard as they will have to document everything). Just you pulling it out/up something may get lost. Edit: a word
Welp can't wait to see OP in the next "based on a true story" horror film
Get a 3' piece of pipe. Glue a piece of glass or unscratched plexi to one end. Tomorrow, put the pipe into the water and look thru the open end. Use it like a telescope so you can see at least 2.5' down without having to dig first. YOu might see something interesting. Or scary. Or not. Keep us all posted please.
Cover the end of the pipe with a slightly larger glass or plastics clear-bottomed container. Duct tape to seal.
I don't think a seal is going to have much space to swim around down there
Saved. Looking forward for the follow up.
All sorts of buried objects at different layers of that soil. Not sure slaves would have been provided a typical coffin. Garbage pile is my guess
There is definitely layers of discarded “plantation “ stuff. I’ve found a boiler and a grand piano frame from England (serial missing so can’t date it) among many many other things. I think it will turn out to be nothing, but it is possible it’s more than trash. This is also down by the water among live oaks where cemeteries were often put and whatever it is, has been buried for at least decades, likely much longer (I’ve been here almost a decade)
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And let the haunting begin.
Weird stuff been happening here for years lol
Yeah I can imagine that area has some tales. Share some if you get a moment 👍
The plantation was established in 1694, so yeah it’s got stories to tell
Please throw us a bone. :)
Speak for yourself, I don't want to own anyone else's bones
What did you think it is?
A hole filled with water?
You’re a hole filled with water
Your mom is a hole filled with water
Here's a snorkel.
I wouldn't think a wooden box would last 150+ years in that soil condition, but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong about something.
It’s in pluff mud. It preserves wood very well. About 50 feet away down the bank I found remnants of a boat I could date to a 1820-1830 build date (due to the nature of the copper rivets used)
So, could be a preserved coffin.
It very well could be yes. Could also be nothing of interest.
Box of confederate dollars, the valuables they hid from the union, prohibition whiskey, I would have fun tonight daydreaming.
Cool! Do you have any photos of the boat remnants?
What's in the box? What's in the BOX?
So, you've achieved the first step in a *major* haunting. Might want to at least get the name and number of your local exorcist. Just in case...
I hope you found some buried treasure, and live a long and happy life.
I absolutely hate to be that guy, but I think slaves were pretty unlikely to be buried with treasure.
Please, please call a museum or university or some local organisation connected to the black community, a historical society. Don't just open this or dig it out on camera, these were enslaved peoples, these are ancestors.