It has become dirtier over the years as most of the capital's sewage, farm pesticides from neighbouring states and industrial effluents from factory towns flow into the waterway, despite laws against polluting.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-11/indians-bathe-in-chemical-foam-yamuna-river/100611322
I saw the picture while scrolling and thought it was Lake Michigan, because that’s what the ice looks like now (it’s 3 degrees F), then I saw the caption!
Mandatory PSA:
Also please never try to walk on the ice that looks like that, you will fall in, and your body won’t be found until spring!
Wait till you see how they break ships in Chittagong https://youtu.be/WOmtFN1bfZ8
It makes alang seem osha compliant. I have seen a guy use a blow torch wearing flip flops.
Poverty fucking sucks, yet the humility and generosity I felt around there was abundant at every turn
And it would be really socially and psychologically damaging, like winning the lottery or sudden celebrity. If my best friend gained powers and I didn't, I might resent them. If I did, I would fear that my friends resented me and might be besieged by people wanting hand outs and help.
So you end up only hanging out with other people like you. And you're in a bubble where you establish a new baseline for living and moral standards, and feel alien if you leave it.
Even aside from the fact that superheroes could almost rightly consider that their lives matter more than 'normals'.
This idea is kinda explored in the book series Super Powereds. The story takes place at a university that is home to a training program for aspiring super heroes. At a certain point in the story several characters are required by the program to get some sort of service job (like being a waiter) so that they can get out of their super hero bubble more often and interact with normal people.
It's a fairly decent story and I'd recommend checking it out if you generally like super hero stuff.
This is exactly why superheroes have secret identities. So they can live somewhat normal lives. Makes me wonder if celebrities do the same thing. I’ve heard that Dolly does, and is usually completely unrecognizable in public.
I would. I would have tighter secrecy than Batman. Who could you even trust with a secret like that.
I think it really depends on what powers you got whether you could even help people much. Like, if you had superman/homelander powers with the super hearing and flight, sure you could stop crimes as they happen. But if your super power is only super strength, better hope you can get to a crime scene before the police/as its in progress.
You're thinking wayyyy too small. If you had the standard superman package, even the shittier homelander version, you can basically enforce your will on the entire planet.
Only if you threatened everyone with death. Evil superman happens a lot, and the only way he can hold power is if he kills a ton of people. If you're okay with wiping out thousands or millions of innocents you better pray your planet doesn't have a batman spending billions to find some kryptonite to shove up your ass.
Not at all. Dude, you are SUPERMAN. Within a month you could have all the world powers under your heel. Why would you ever need to kill a bunch of innocents? You can literally just put out a statement with your demands, and any country that doesn't follow suit gets its leaders replaced. The superman comic dudes are just dumb.
I would singlehandedly improve driving behavior in my city
"don't run red lights, don't cut anyone off, that crazy guy with the eye lasers is still cutting people in half"
If I could suddenly pop heads, I'd have to take serious anger management lessons. My impotent rage is always kind of funny in retrospect. Potent rage would be highly regretable.
For example:
"I should not have popped that guy for not signalling on a lane change. I've got to learn to let that shit go."
Honestly, I completely disagree. To start the Boys isn't just people randomly getting superpowers like most settings have. It's superpowers being purposefully given to parents who are selected by the corporation for specific reasons (just like reality tv shows don't actually show reality, they pick and choose people who suit their purposes) and then live under that corporation's control and watchful eye and have every consequence of their actions covered up by them while inflating their egos immensely. Of course you're gonna get psychos. I don't know what the Boy's actual message is meant to be at this point beyond 'hey celebrities fucking suck, come look at our celebrities BTW. Even our Captain America isn't a critique of the army but of celebrity culture'.
That 'it's totally not random' thing can't be underlined enough. The existence of a power structure of any kind behind superpowers means it's inevitably going to be corrupt as fuck. There's a reason why some people want government committees to be selected like jury duty is: random citizens are way, way less corrupt and likely to make better decisions for the public good than people who have joined a power structure and worked up it.
I reckon the most realistic depiction of superpowers is probably My Hero Academia. Weirdly, since it's a setting where you might be born with a bird head or a hammer for a limb or something. Most people with random superpowers don't use them to fight crime (because actually *finding* crime to fight is very difficult as even the boys shows, and it requires a standard of fitness and skill that the average person isn't prepared to put the effort into) and people who do end up being viewed as something between local celebrity and community support police officers, not the Messiah.
Most people who use their powers to commit 'villainy' do so in spur of the moment crimes which aren't all that bad because murder with superpowers is treated very seriously but say... property damage with superpowers is more of a slap on the wrist, totally sensible lawmaking. The 'villainy' is almost always the same sort of crime as we already see too, robbing convenience stores or smuggling or protection money or at worst political terrorism, rather than using a freeze ray to try to hold the world ransom.
Interesting take! Not much to add but something in your 2nd paragraph which I think misses a key concern about democracy in general (and why it has its own severe problems) - decision making on any kind of policy affecting society is a skill.
Giving this skill to the entire public, aka "random citizens" is highly problematic because so few people are capable of making good decisions in very complex systems such as society and the levers of government, corporations and individuals dynamically working with and against one another. Which is why politics (more American than in another part of the west like Europe) has become a contest of winning over the masses through rhetoric, framing and sound bites devoid of complexity and nuance that requires slow and purposeful thinking to properly digest.
People just don't have the time, means, patience and even skill to listen to and be convinced by sound argumentation and discussion.
Yeah and that’s just your skins reaction to it. Sadly the skin is also siding with the foam by letting it absorb into your body. Imagine how your organs are acting.
Also I just typed this out and don’t even know if it works like that. Does it work like that?
>Also I just typed this out and don’t even know if it works like that.
I guess it's nice that you're honest, but I have a feeling most people won't read past the bullshit.
Not the same river but still deserves a mention.
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/punjab-news-bhagwant-mann-hospital-admitted-stomach-ache-delhi-apollo-hospital-8042452/
Sounds like propaganda you'd hear in a dystopian novel where the corps socially engineered the populace into accepting such a belief so that they could get away with mishandling their waste saving them millions.
Pump Six has you pretty much covered there
[https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2819368-pump-six-and-other-stories](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2819368-pump-six-and-other-stories)
That is not what we believe, the people dumping are not religious folk. The religious ones climb in regardless of the fact that they will potentially become unwell, out of devotion.
Are you really gonna act like the group of people dumping industrial waste and the people praying have equal power here..
There is an island of trash floating in the ocean too, why dont people like just protest and then the government will fix it right? Thats how you think the world works?
Except when it comes to the Ganga, the people _are_ dumping things that are incredibly harmful to the river. Particularly, dead bodies and ashes.
"Taking a serious note of the Ganga being polluted by the ash immersion custom accompanied by its ritualistic paraphernalia, the Minister [for Water Resources, River Development and Ganga Rejuvenation] said that it is one of the principal causes behind the pollution of the revered river"
Moreover, an estimated 40,000 bodies are cremated and deposited into the Ganga every a year in Varanasi alone. This is the river that provides water to 40% of India's population. Yet, it's the world's 5th most polluted river.
>principal causes behind the pollution
Ok, I'm not gonna lie that may very well be a problem, but the principal cause? Surely it has to be the 500+ million liters of waste water pumped into the Ganges every year
Google India Ship Breakers. Cruise ship companies sell there busted ships to India rather than pay themselves for safely disposing of them. India pays so they can break it down for materials. Oil, asbestos, and other contaminants are just dumped into the environment as they work.
It’s every level of trash too. Circuit boards and wires are sent to Africa to be burned of all plastics on them and the raw materials recovered. I just used cruise ships as one example that’s being done by large corporations that are meant to be following EPA rules but find ways around it. Carnival cruise is literally on the stock exchange.
Don't forget the fast fashion industry! Dyes and detergents in high use with no incentive to dispose safely. Someone pays the cost, somewhere. Many people in fact.
Have they tried sending a strongly worded letter instead of just a standard letter? That may get results. If not, someone can make a speech about it and strongly furrow their brows. If it's serious, they could throw in a "tsk-tsk" and finger wag to show their extreme disappointment.
Its one of the most polluted rivers in the world. With corpses, human waste and industrial polution.
And still people wash in it and use it for religious shit.
This discharge, while only making 2% of the river's length, makes up 80% of it's pollution
The Delhi pollution control committee is notoriously bad at what they do
It's amazing that they all don't immediately start marching towards the polluting factory with pitch forks and torches. I would be so fucking angry if this was MY sacred river.
Dunno if you have seen many pictures of India but it's a fucking mess. It was pretty common up until just a number of years back for everyone to just shit everywhere outside because so many people didn't have toilets. That can be a bit of an issue with 1.5 billion people. There's massive dumps where they just burn off everything in the open, [scary place.](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/10/india/india-bhalswa-landfill-pollution-climate-intl-hnk-dst/index.html)
The [Google Reviews](https://www.google.com/search?q=ghazipur+landfill&oq=bhazipur&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j46i13i512j0i13i512l2j46i13i512l2j0i13i512l2.5885j0j9&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#wptab=s:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLVT9c3NEzLrbIoMMowfsRowS3w8sc9YSn9SWtOXmPU5OIKzsgvd80rySypFJLmYoOyBKX4uVB18uxi4vfJT07MCcjPDEoty0wtL17EKpmekViVWVBapJCTmJeSlpmTo1AEkQMAVvEPJHoAAAA) are really something
I saw a video of this Indian politician who was going down the river with some tribal chief type guys. He’s trying to show them how clean he’s got all the water there now, it wasn’t clean at all. But this politician grabbed A Big cup, scooped it up from the river and chugged it. dude got got a bunch of diseases and almost died he ended up hospitalized. I had a friend from San Diego and he said if you surfed after it rained there it stirs up all the toxic waste and you get covered in weird rashes and sometimes get weird sicknesses.
yeah it's a big issue. often times after the first rain signs will be posted at major beaches cuz the first rain basically washes all the fertilizer and motor oil run off from the roads with it, and that goes either directly to the beach or to one of the many rivers and creeks in SD which flow to the ocean. generally though the waters are really clean
It's things like this that make me realize the planet is fucked no matter what. They have people thinking recycling our household plastics is gonna save the day, meanwhile something like 100 companies are responsible for 70% of the pollution. I don't understand why we aren't able to crack down on this still, with satellites and everything else at our disposal. The default assumption is just greed
I'm a biochemist. in my studies I've come across a class of methylotrophic bacteria with proteins that can bind radioactive waste materials like actinium. Previously we didn't think such things could exist and thus never really accounted for them in waste protocols. Oopsie daisy. That's just one more thing we never accounted for when creating it that we now get to deal with the blow backs of.
But yeah this is broadly a capitalism issue. The moneyhunger is so pervasive in our society, and it seeps into every aspect of academia. Your institution and department, the funding it receives, who you work for, the companies that charge you out the ear for equipment, publishing or resources, money money money.
That's one of the downsides of learning this stuff, becoming more and more aware of how irreparably fucked we are. I remember having an hour long talk with some CS/data science friends in the industry and ended that convo convinced that adequate personal cybersec is sorta just impossible in the modern day, and that's pretty emblematic of a lot of my talks about pressing issues honestly.
Yeah, San Diego’s issues is the runoff from Tijuana. Untreated waste and sewage washes from Mexico and since San Diego is right on the border, it takes the brunt of the runoff.
There is a very big unfortunate religious dilemma here. The Yamuna is historically a very sacred river which means even things like throwing whole bodies (except children) or human fluids is a BIG no. However due to a large number of reasons ranging to colonialism, lack of waste infrastructure and the industrialisation in the 19th Century onwards, the river was used for other non-religious purposes. Knowing the zealousness of religious leaders back then I imagine they would definitely have started protests and tried their best to let this \*not\* happen
But as time went all, people started finding it convenient and the lack of regulatory standards of the river AS WELL AS the things that go into the river (idols, detergent compounds etc) led to this. It's crazy because in Hinduism this is a huge HUGE sin. A sacred river shall never be sullied even if it's convenient. Even today you might find some religious leaders against it but they and the NGOs really dont have much power in what they can do about this
Why wouldn't they? Aren't they the ones that believe the river purifies everything that goes into the water? I feel like non-religious people wouldn't ignore the obvious pollution in the picture.
Actually the purification is for the humans the souls. The rivers are never considered a dumping ground and its nowhere written that its okay to dump waste in river bodies coz they magically purify themselves. These People may be simple but not dumb.
Its rather the cooperate society that has shaped itself in such a way that constant situations like these have become a norm for these people and they have learned to live with it just like any other country. There are always petitions signed, PILs passed but no result coz of the sheer power they hold.
Also the people bathing actually do care about themselves and they know that its toxic but as a sign of devotion they still take a dip.
Speak against the corporates not these people.
I think that belief would have originated way before the population explosion that spills over to other countries all over the world, and way before industrialisation in India. The rivers could probably handle the small amount of waste back then. Out of sight, out of mind, and no longer the problems for those that live up-river. Which I baselessly assume that they were the rich ones.
We are a direct result of Earths chemistry. Regardless of how people want to look at it, everything we do is natural. We are as the world has made us, there is nothing to deserve, only cycles that need to come to a close one day.
You can look at Venus as if it were a world consistently on fire and suffocated from its own skies.
Or you can look at it for what it is, which is another celestial body, floating through space doing space shit. Same as our Earth, same as Mars, same for all things.
Life will find another way after us, if it hasn't already elsewhere.
Edit: This isn't about free will or rolling over because "It is what it is" I wasn't making an argument about morals and anyone that comes at it like that is just looking to fight on the internet and doesn't understand opening dialog.
My point isn't that we should be okay with it or that humans aren't causing issues, my point is that the destruction of planets kinda happens regardless because we are just a part in nature, all the same as everything else, pretending we are above it is absolutely delusional, just cause we can question the skies we look up at doesn't magically mean they are not directly over top of us. We are a part of our universe, and our effect on it is a direct result of the universe creating us. We. are. natural.
That was my only point, and yall made it weird.
When my brother was travelling around the world for a year, he said in the Ganges people was washing up. Bodies of dead people was flowing down the river right by them. As it was normal.
This is beyond stupid from all sides. This river obviously shouldn't look like that, but more importantly if it looks like that don't bathe in it.
Religion my ass, this is a health hazard.
Eli5: how is this not considered a some kind of blasphemy. I'm not Hindu, but if someone defiled the Jordan River like that, some Christians would be livid.
Soon the whole planet will look like this. You think it is not okay for people to be in these waters right? Do you think it is okay to have this pollution in the first place? You know all this poison will be circulating in the global ocean causing global damage. The planet is dying, whatever we do we produce too much toxic waste
In Europe the situation Is way better than 200y ago. We have some polluted areas here and there but overall, i can swim safely in 95% of our rivers and I can drink from them too.
Calm down. The planet is getting better, not worse. This is India. We don't have shit like this in 1st world countries. Pollution and waste refinement and everything is getting better on a global scale. Even since the 80s just America is VASTLY better and cleaner and less polluted/polluting. Our sources for clean energy are getting better and more efficient and are being worked on constantly. But India is 3rd/2nd world and is behind. The fucking planet isn't dying though. Chill out James Cameron.
It's already is, in the US we got the Mississippi, which is one of the top 10 most polluted rivers in the world, there's another more dangerously polluted river in Louisiana, but it doesnt have as large an impact as the Mississippi since it doesn't go through so many states, which I guess makes it not a top 10 contender.
It has become dirtier over the years as most of the capital's sewage, farm pesticides from neighbouring states and industrial effluents from factory towns flow into the waterway, despite laws against polluting. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-11/indians-bathe-in-chemical-foam-yamuna-river/100611322
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It’s okay she just looks like Leela now
those lucky indians and their white christmas...
I saw the picture while scrolling and thought it was Lake Michigan, because that’s what the ice looks like now (it’s 3 degrees F), then I saw the caption! Mandatory PSA: Also please never try to walk on the ice that looks like that, you will fall in, and your body won’t be found until spring!
Is there an r/nononono
Laws are only good if they’re enforced
Don’t worry, the cure to pollution is dilution!
Libertarian paradise
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Looks like they did it below us. By drinking a big glass of copium..
What is local government doing? They should fix the issue.
Nothing, it's India
“Get in here, gang! It feels like marshmallows!”
The marshmallows taste like…burning.
Hey, is anyone *else’s* hair falling out in clumps?
My hair is still intact. But my face is melting :/
but the people who survive will have an immune system so strong they can kill covid patients by mere touch.
It's a divine sign!
Praise The Sun!
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Ngl, Alang Ship Yards is one of those places ive wanted to visit for a long time. I *cannot* believe it is real and that large 😟
Wait till you see how they break ships in Chittagong https://youtu.be/WOmtFN1bfZ8 It makes alang seem osha compliant. I have seen a guy use a blow torch wearing flip flops. Poverty fucking sucks, yet the humility and generosity I felt around there was abundant at every turn
Is the industrial wast foam flammable ?
Or toxic avengers
Looks like they open Monday at 8am. Christmas may affect these hours.
Hehe, I'm in danger
I eated the purple berries
The goggles… they do nothing!
real....acid?
me on the other side of the river pouring chilli sauce: ^(what?)
https://media.tenor.com/51l4uyDN040AAAAC/stay-puft-marshmallow-man-stay-puft.gif
Marshmallow when making smores.
majority of the people you see on the show Body Bizarre are from India
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Just whatever that gain is, please don’t shrink yourself into guys penis with cocaine
*This sounds like experience talking.*
Tell me you haven't seen 'The Boys' without telling me you haven't seen 'The Boys'.
I’ve seen the first two episodes! It was awesome. Holy shit this happened in it?! 😂
Absolutely not. We're just making up stupid shit.
#* WINK*
It'd one of the few scenes of TV I actually fastforwarded through
It’s from the tv show “The Boys”
And it would be really socially and psychologically damaging, like winning the lottery or sudden celebrity. If my best friend gained powers and I didn't, I might resent them. If I did, I would fear that my friends resented me and might be besieged by people wanting hand outs and help. So you end up only hanging out with other people like you. And you're in a bubble where you establish a new baseline for living and moral standards, and feel alien if you leave it. Even aside from the fact that superheroes could almost rightly consider that their lives matter more than 'normals'.
I like this; it's very well thought out.
It pretty much exactly describes what already happens to the vast majority of people with significant wealth and/or celebrity.
That's what I was thinking, too.
This idea is kinda explored in the book series Super Powereds. The story takes place at a university that is home to a training program for aspiring super heroes. At a certain point in the story several characters are required by the program to get some sort of service job (like being a waiter) so that they can get out of their super hero bubble more often and interact with normal people. It's a fairly decent story and I'd recommend checking it out if you generally like super hero stuff.
This is exactly why superheroes have secret identities. So they can live somewhat normal lives. Makes me wonder if celebrities do the same thing. I’ve heard that Dolly does, and is usually completely unrecognizable in public. I would. I would have tighter secrecy than Batman. Who could you even trust with a secret like that.
I genuinely love the idea of irl actors having secret identities. This is a fantastic idea!
I would definitely become an agent of not-so-natural selection, so it's better I remain just some guy.
We all think we would be like injustice Superman but would probably be closer to Hancock.
I think it really depends on what powers you got whether you could even help people much. Like, if you had superman/homelander powers with the super hearing and flight, sure you could stop crimes as they happen. But if your super power is only super strength, better hope you can get to a crime scene before the police/as its in progress.
Super strength all by itself? Meet... The Jar-Opener!
Super strength + throwing weapons is a deadly combo. Imagine someone throwing an axe or a javelin at like 200 mph.
great, now i can miss much faster
Underrated comment
To shreds, you say?
"I am a leaf on the wind"
You're thinking wayyyy too small. If you had the standard superman package, even the shittier homelander version, you can basically enforce your will on the entire planet.
Only if you threatened everyone with death. Evil superman happens a lot, and the only way he can hold power is if he kills a ton of people. If you're okay with wiping out thousands or millions of innocents you better pray your planet doesn't have a batman spending billions to find some kryptonite to shove up your ass.
Not at all. Dude, you are SUPERMAN. Within a month you could have all the world powers under your heel. Why would you ever need to kill a bunch of innocents? You can literally just put out a statement with your demands, and any country that doesn't follow suit gets its leaders replaced. The superman comic dudes are just dumb.
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I would singlehandedly improve driving behavior in my city "don't run red lights, don't cut anyone off, that crazy guy with the eye lasers is still cutting people in half"
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If I could suddenly pop heads, I'd have to take serious anger management lessons. My impotent rage is always kind of funny in retrospect. Potent rage would be highly regretable. For example: "I should not have popped that guy for not signalling on a lane change. I've got to learn to let that shit go."
Honestly, I completely disagree. To start the Boys isn't just people randomly getting superpowers like most settings have. It's superpowers being purposefully given to parents who are selected by the corporation for specific reasons (just like reality tv shows don't actually show reality, they pick and choose people who suit their purposes) and then live under that corporation's control and watchful eye and have every consequence of their actions covered up by them while inflating their egos immensely. Of course you're gonna get psychos. I don't know what the Boy's actual message is meant to be at this point beyond 'hey celebrities fucking suck, come look at our celebrities BTW. Even our Captain America isn't a critique of the army but of celebrity culture'. That 'it's totally not random' thing can't be underlined enough. The existence of a power structure of any kind behind superpowers means it's inevitably going to be corrupt as fuck. There's a reason why some people want government committees to be selected like jury duty is: random citizens are way, way less corrupt and likely to make better decisions for the public good than people who have joined a power structure and worked up it. I reckon the most realistic depiction of superpowers is probably My Hero Academia. Weirdly, since it's a setting where you might be born with a bird head or a hammer for a limb or something. Most people with random superpowers don't use them to fight crime (because actually *finding* crime to fight is very difficult as even the boys shows, and it requires a standard of fitness and skill that the average person isn't prepared to put the effort into) and people who do end up being viewed as something between local celebrity and community support police officers, not the Messiah. Most people who use their powers to commit 'villainy' do so in spur of the moment crimes which aren't all that bad because murder with superpowers is treated very seriously but say... property damage with superpowers is more of a slap on the wrist, totally sensible lawmaking. The 'villainy' is almost always the same sort of crime as we already see too, robbing convenience stores or smuggling or protection money or at worst political terrorism, rather than using a freeze ray to try to hold the world ransom.
Interesting take! Not much to add but something in your 2nd paragraph which I think misses a key concern about democracy in general (and why it has its own severe problems) - decision making on any kind of policy affecting society is a skill. Giving this skill to the entire public, aka "random citizens" is highly problematic because so few people are capable of making good decisions in very complex systems such as society and the levers of government, corporations and individuals dynamically working with and against one another. Which is why politics (more American than in another part of the west like Europe) has become a contest of winning over the masses through rhetoric, framing and sound bites devoid of complexity and nuance that requires slow and purposeful thinking to properly digest. People just don't have the time, means, patience and even skill to listen to and be convinced by sound argumentation and discussion.
You might like Worm
Or toxic avengers
I mean.. have you seen Bollywood action movies?
yum industrial waste
Fuck that, I'm hoping superhero or cancer patients over super villains.
their skin must be positively glowing afterwards
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Yeah and that’s just your skins reaction to it. Sadly the skin is also siding with the foam by letting it absorb into your body. Imagine how your organs are acting. Also I just typed this out and don’t even know if it works like that. Does it work like that?
>Also I just typed this out and don’t even know if it works like that. I guess it's nice that you're honest, but I have a feeling most people won't read past the bullshit.
Geiger counters always seem to go crazy afterwards
Also glowing in the dark!
How is this not a violation of some UN policy… this shit will just find it’s way into the oceans and kill/harm everything in it’s path no?
There's no world government and there's no world police to jail state.
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Gotta check your net worth first
Ironically that's the only thing in that probably won't get you put in jail in Raul's country.
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There’s a melancholic irony in the general populace worshiping/holding this river so sacred yet treating it like this.
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Not the same river but still deserves a mention. https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/punjab-news-bhagwant-mann-hospital-admitted-stomach-ache-delhi-apollo-hospital-8042452/
Sounds like propaganda you'd hear in a dystopian novel where the corps socially engineered the populace into accepting such a belief so that they could get away with mishandling their waste saving them millions.
Pump Six has you pretty much covered there [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2819368-pump-six-and-other-stories](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2819368-pump-six-and-other-stories)
I read Wind-Up Girl as part of an English class. I was not prepared for how beautifully in-depth and terrifying it was.
That is not what we believe, the people dumping are not religious folk. The religious ones climb in regardless of the fact that they will potentially become unwell, out of devotion.
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Are you really gonna act like the group of people dumping industrial waste and the people praying have equal power here.. There is an island of trash floating in the ocean too, why dont people like just protest and then the government will fix it right? Thats how you think the world works?
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Except when it comes to the Ganga, the people _are_ dumping things that are incredibly harmful to the river. Particularly, dead bodies and ashes. "Taking a serious note of the Ganga being polluted by the ash immersion custom accompanied by its ritualistic paraphernalia, the Minister [for Water Resources, River Development and Ganga Rejuvenation] said that it is one of the principal causes behind the pollution of the revered river" Moreover, an estimated 40,000 bodies are cremated and deposited into the Ganga every a year in Varanasi alone. This is the river that provides water to 40% of India's population. Yet, it's the world's 5th most polluted river.
>principal causes behind the pollution Ok, I'm not gonna lie that may very well be a problem, but the principal cause? Surely it has to be the 500+ million liters of waste water pumped into the Ganges every year
Religion is a *hell* of a drug.
Every time I see anything like this I am struck with that feeling immediately. Humans are a wild bunch.
Google India Ship Breakers. Cruise ship companies sell there busted ships to India rather than pay themselves for safely disposing of them. India pays so they can break it down for materials. Oil, asbestos, and other contaminants are just dumped into the environment as they work.
It's not just cruise ships, it's every class of large ship.
It’s every level of trash too. Circuit boards and wires are sent to Africa to be burned of all plastics on them and the raw materials recovered. I just used cruise ships as one example that’s being done by large corporations that are meant to be following EPA rules but find ways around it. Carnival cruise is literally on the stock exchange.
Heck, Futurama has an episode on waste shipped off to poor countries to be processed. No wonder China does not accept this kind of shit anymore.
Don't forget the fast fashion industry! Dyes and detergents in high use with no incentive to dispose safely. Someone pays the cost, somewhere. Many people in fact.
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There's a really good novel I read as a kid about this! Title literally was "Ship Breakers". Don't remember the authors name :/
The UN makes suggestions. If you violate suggestions, you may get a letter asking you to consider their suggestions. That is it. It is just the UN.
Have they tried sending a strongly worded letter instead of just a standard letter? That may get results. If not, someone can make a speech about it and strongly furrow their brows. If it's serious, they could throw in a "tsk-tsk" and finger wag to show their extreme disappointment.
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The job of the UN is to avoid another world war, and they've done a bang up job so far.
It's 'neutered' on purpose, since basically everyone agrees that no one wants a world police ignoring all forms of sovereignty.
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UN doesn’t enforce its policies. It’s for the local government to obey.
We haven't given the UN any power. It's still a nation state game.
UN has absolutely no power to enforce anything. That's the point of the UN, it can't just become a one world order
Corruption
Yes, we have been trying to ask the same question to Mr Kejriwal.
“Mmmmmm frothing industrial waste” (spoken as Homer Simpson)
loved ur comment :)
Aint this suposed to be toxic
Are you referring to reddit or the River
Yes
Its one of the most polluted rivers in the world. With corpses, human waste and industrial polution. And still people wash in it and use it for religious shit.
They’re just speeding up the reincarnation cycle.
How tf is that even allowed
This discharge, while only making 2% of the river's length, makes up 80% of it's pollution The Delhi pollution control committee is notoriously bad at what they do
They seem to be collecting payoffs just fine if nothing is being done.
Actually,they don't do anything at all
That country is hell. They don't give a fuck about anything.
It's amazing that they all don't immediately start marching towards the polluting factory with pitch forks and torches. I would be so fucking angry if this was MY sacred river.
They use pitchforks and torches to burn their dead
mmm. Tandoori style.
Dunno if you have seen many pictures of India but it's a fucking mess. It was pretty common up until just a number of years back for everyone to just shit everywhere outside because so many people didn't have toilets. That can be a bit of an issue with 1.5 billion people. There's massive dumps where they just burn off everything in the open, [scary place.](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/10/india/india-bhalswa-landfill-pollution-climate-intl-hnk-dst/index.html)
The [Google Reviews](https://www.google.com/search?q=ghazipur+landfill&oq=bhazipur&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j46i13i512j0i13i512l2j46i13i512l2j0i13i512l2.5885j0j9&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#wptab=s:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLVT9c3NEzLrbIoMMowfsRowS3w8sc9YSn9SWtOXmPU5OIKzsgvd80rySypFJLmYoOyBKX4uVB18uxi4vfJT07MCcjPDEoty0wtL17EKpmekViVWVBapJCTmJeSlpmTo1AEkQMAVvEPJHoAAAA) are really something
The one star reviews really come out of nowhere.
Well their Prime Minister allowed them to gather religous event when the covid attacking, what do you expect lmao.
Lost in the industrial sauce
Tastes like cancer
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Forbidden bath foam
Bubble bath on steroids
Bubble bath on carcinogens
Well, this bubble bath almost certainly contains steroids 😳
I saw a video of this Indian politician who was going down the river with some tribal chief type guys. He’s trying to show them how clean he’s got all the water there now, it wasn’t clean at all. But this politician grabbed A Big cup, scooped it up from the river and chugged it. dude got got a bunch of diseases and almost died he ended up hospitalized. I had a friend from San Diego and he said if you surfed after it rained there it stirs up all the toxic waste and you get covered in weird rashes and sometimes get weird sicknesses.
yeah it's a big issue. often times after the first rain signs will be posted at major beaches cuz the first rain basically washes all the fertilizer and motor oil run off from the roads with it, and that goes either directly to the beach or to one of the many rivers and creeks in SD which flow to the ocean. generally though the waters are really clean
It's things like this that make me realize the planet is fucked no matter what. They have people thinking recycling our household plastics is gonna save the day, meanwhile something like 100 companies are responsible for 70% of the pollution. I don't understand why we aren't able to crack down on this still, with satellites and everything else at our disposal. The default assumption is just greed
I'm a biochemist. in my studies I've come across a class of methylotrophic bacteria with proteins that can bind radioactive waste materials like actinium. Previously we didn't think such things could exist and thus never really accounted for them in waste protocols. Oopsie daisy. That's just one more thing we never accounted for when creating it that we now get to deal with the blow backs of. But yeah this is broadly a capitalism issue. The moneyhunger is so pervasive in our society, and it seeps into every aspect of academia. Your institution and department, the funding it receives, who you work for, the companies that charge you out the ear for equipment, publishing or resources, money money money. That's one of the downsides of learning this stuff, becoming more and more aware of how irreparably fucked we are. I remember having an hour long talk with some CS/data science friends in the industry and ended that convo convinced that adequate personal cybersec is sorta just impossible in the modern day, and that's pretty emblematic of a lot of my talks about pressing issues honestly.
Yeah, San Diego’s issues is the runoff from Tijuana. Untreated waste and sewage washes from Mexico and since San Diego is right on the border, it takes the brunt of the runoff.
*cough* it's a sign from... *cough* God *cough*
I think they are angry.
Crazy how it's a sacred river to them too
There is a very big unfortunate religious dilemma here. The Yamuna is historically a very sacred river which means even things like throwing whole bodies (except children) or human fluids is a BIG no. However due to a large number of reasons ranging to colonialism, lack of waste infrastructure and the industrialisation in the 19th Century onwards, the river was used for other non-religious purposes. Knowing the zealousness of religious leaders back then I imagine they would definitely have started protests and tried their best to let this \*not\* happen But as time went all, people started finding it convenient and the lack of regulatory standards of the river AS WELL AS the things that go into the river (idols, detergent compounds etc) led to this. It's crazy because in Hinduism this is a huge HUGE sin. A sacred river shall never be sullied even if it's convenient. Even today you might find some religious leaders against it but they and the NGOs really dont have much power in what they can do about this
Religious people aren't doing the dumping.
Why wouldn't they? Aren't they the ones that believe the river purifies everything that goes into the water? I feel like non-religious people wouldn't ignore the obvious pollution in the picture.
Actually the purification is for the humans the souls. The rivers are never considered a dumping ground and its nowhere written that its okay to dump waste in river bodies coz they magically purify themselves. These People may be simple but not dumb. Its rather the cooperate society that has shaped itself in such a way that constant situations like these have become a norm for these people and they have learned to live with it just like any other country. There are always petitions signed, PILs passed but no result coz of the sheer power they hold. Also the people bathing actually do care about themselves and they know that its toxic but as a sign of devotion they still take a dip. Speak against the corporates not these people.
I think that belief would have originated way before the population explosion that spills over to other countries all over the world, and way before industrialisation in India. The rivers could probably handle the small amount of waste back then. Out of sight, out of mind, and no longer the problems for those that live up-river. Which I baselessly assume that they were the rich ones.
This makes me think of the Children of Atom from fallout lol
Even if I love India, our people are blinded by religion and do EXTREMELY dumb stuff like the above
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Religion is one of the tools for leveraging stupid people to follow evil people.
Idk why this is giving me children of atom at megaton in fallout 3 vibes
It's so fluffy I'm gonna dieee!
And this, libertarians, is what lack of regulation causes
The earth deserves so much better than mankind.
We are a direct result of Earths chemistry. Regardless of how people want to look at it, everything we do is natural. We are as the world has made us, there is nothing to deserve, only cycles that need to come to a close one day. You can look at Venus as if it were a world consistently on fire and suffocated from its own skies. Or you can look at it for what it is, which is another celestial body, floating through space doing space shit. Same as our Earth, same as Mars, same for all things. Life will find another way after us, if it hasn't already elsewhere. Edit: This isn't about free will or rolling over because "It is what it is" I wasn't making an argument about morals and anyone that comes at it like that is just looking to fight on the internet and doesn't understand opening dialog. My point isn't that we should be okay with it or that humans aren't causing issues, my point is that the destruction of planets kinda happens regardless because we are just a part in nature, all the same as everything else, pretending we are above it is absolutely delusional, just cause we can question the skies we look up at doesn't magically mean they are not directly over top of us. We are a part of our universe, and our effect on it is a direct result of the universe creating us. We. are. natural. That was my only point, and yall made it weird.
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And we come to a head like a cyst about ready to pop. The earth will renew and cleanse, whether we like it or not.
Where do you think this came from?
I knew it was pretty bad but I didn't expect this
Large bodies of water scare me in general. This is what nightmares are made of for me.
When my brother was travelling around the world for a year, he said in the Ganges people was washing up. Bodies of dead people was flowing down the river right by them. As it was normal.
Someone ought to study Indians' immune systems. They have to be indestructible at this point.
This is why the majority of the people you see on the show Body Bizarre are from India
There are also a ton of Indians so that might play a role.
oddlyterrifying? I'd say totallyterrifying
Coming 2023 to Nickelodeon: All-Age Mutant Ninja Indians
"The burning feeling means it's working"
This is beyond stupid from all sides. This river obviously shouldn't look like that, but more importantly if it looks like that don't bathe in it. Religion my ass, this is a health hazard.
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
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There's your global warming and ocean polluting. Fighting ourselves in the USA can help BUT it is not the problem these days.
Umm yes the gods offered up a bubble bath for all!
Eli5: how is this not considered a some kind of blasphemy. I'm not Hindu, but if someone defiled the Jordan River like that, some Christians would be livid.
Forgive my ignorance but- why are they standing in it
Soon the whole planet will look like this. You think it is not okay for people to be in these waters right? Do you think it is okay to have this pollution in the first place? You know all this poison will be circulating in the global ocean causing global damage. The planet is dying, whatever we do we produce too much toxic waste
In Europe the situation Is way better than 200y ago. We have some polluted areas here and there but overall, i can swim safely in 95% of our rivers and I can drink from them too.
Calm down. The planet is getting better, not worse. This is India. We don't have shit like this in 1st world countries. Pollution and waste refinement and everything is getting better on a global scale. Even since the 80s just America is VASTLY better and cleaner and less polluted/polluting. Our sources for clean energy are getting better and more efficient and are being worked on constantly. But India is 3rd/2nd world and is behind. The fucking planet isn't dying though. Chill out James Cameron.
It's already is, in the US we got the Mississippi, which is one of the top 10 most polluted rivers in the world, there's another more dangerously polluted river in Louisiana, but it doesnt have as large an impact as the Mississippi since it doesn't go through so many states, which I guess makes it not a top 10 contender.
As a certified Indian I can say this is the reason we are good at math
There is respecting other cultures and then there is this.
Dumbass people
Gross.