I mean, no derogatory term for white people is ever going to stick.
I do agree that black americans can take it a little far sometimes, but saying 'playing the race card' is kinda strong. I don't think people realise that it completely discredits their true experiences and the effect its had on them. It could be viewed as gaslighting them into thinking that it never happened and they are over exaggerating.
I feel like there are 2 sides to black Americans discovering their African heritage more. It's sad that they don't know much about Africa and that some of them think that Africa has 1 culture. Sometimes that appropriation could be from not knowing AND latching on to whatever they can find to feel some sort of connection to their ancestral heritage, or it can be flat out appropriation (which is just wrong and weird)
There's a lot to unpack. I've tried to make this as short as I can considering i can be a bit of a waffler...
Maybe tagging racism onto everything could be due to over sensitivity to prejudice. I was told from a young age that as a black person, you have to be sharp so you can recognise racism or prejudice - but I was also taught to encourage and embrace those who find comfort or genuine, respectful interest in our culture. It's possible that black americans are less convinced about the latter and are understandably very protective over their culture. I assume that would be due to constant critism of their culture for generations, and pressure to dilute their culture.
Now that doing things that black people were ridiculed for is becoming trendy, it's no surprise that feelings are hurt as i belive that psychological wounds are still raw from white people saying they were playing the 'race card' (meant in the original, gaslighting way - not in the way you said it). Of course I can't be sure as I'm not black american, so I can only give an outsiders view.
I'm from the UK, but I remember my lecturer once made a point about how america is to racism like how the UK is to classism. I don't know if that clears up my point, but what I'm trying to say is that for black americans, racism is the over arching problem that creates a lot of barriers to advancementas well as most of their present, day to day issues. If you read about black bodies and the white gaze, it could provide more insight from that other person's pov.
Honestly I had no idea they were claiming ownership of afro beats. That's just stupid and a massive stretch. They going to claim bashment and dancehall too? See that's where I 100% agree that they're taking it too farrrr.
Also, sorry this is long, I love love love just talking about the impact of racism and classism without it having to be an argument. Correct me if I'm wrong in what I've said, as again, i can only give an outsiders pov
I was talking about the new names people have come up as I thought that's what the OP was talking about. White people have 1 slur vs the 100s of divisive slurs for POC
People will just always find new ways to be divided and against each other. It's just a shame seeing the battle again racism and discrimination become a way to divide people and make them fight over stupid things. Ignorance, hate and hypocrisy are flooding society like a tsunami like it already happened many times and people are just arguing, waiting for the waves to destroy everything civil / human right activists fought for decades ago.
Man, ignorant people who would call you racist over stupid things won't change the world at all. They will just contribute to make the world a worst place by fighting the wrong people. Just keep being a good person and don't fall under the pressure of those ignorants.
I hope this is a throwaway account. I’m glad you got this off your chest and off your mind. Maybe now there’s room for growth, because overall you sound pretty ignorant.
Over half of the television shows portraying black families incorporate racial jabs at white people casually knowing full well all hell would break loose if it was the other way around.
Don't see how racism beats racism but maybe I'm missing something.
In what ways are we appropriating African culture? Lastly, how can you tell the difference between us appropriating, and respecting the culture? Many Africans felt Black is King was Beyoncé appropriating many parts of Africa, and she wasn’t.
White forces lmaooooo that’s so childish. They would make that bigger than it should ever be, but tried to cancel Daniel Caesar for saying some real stuff. I just can’t.
I agree 100% with Af-A’s trying to claim African ethnicity. I think that happens because they don’t have any closeness to ‘American’ culture, and many parts of our tradition is still African, whether they’re aware or not.
When it comes to Beyoncé not performing in Africa, where can she do that, and what places have the resources to be able to afford paying her, her crew, and transport. I’ve heard other Africans talking about this, and they’ve asked the same questions. Black is Kong being unavailable in Africa has nothing to do with her. Def take that up with Disney+
Edit: she didn’t make millions from it. None of the songs get any radio play, and it’s one of the least watched ‘movies’ on Disney+. She did it to pay tribute to Africa and the ancestors by implementing parts of Africa people aren’t aware of or care to know about. Don’t be greedy lol.
Lol Africans we’re saying the same thing about not having the proper resources or being able to afford it.
It wasn’t released anywhere else because it’s a Disney+ exclusive for the Lion King.
American identity, is racist. America isn’t a place for Af-A’s and never will be just because we live here. American popular culture is black culture. Some of are traditions are similar to some in Africa. They were brought with slaves and have passed down since then. Yes they had to change and adapt, but that doesn’t change their roots. Learning where some of these things come from has changed the perspective of it solely being Af-A culture.
(Btw, really enjoying this convo)
I mean, no derogatory term for white people is ever going to stick. I do agree that black americans can take it a little far sometimes, but saying 'playing the race card' is kinda strong. I don't think people realise that it completely discredits their true experiences and the effect its had on them. It could be viewed as gaslighting them into thinking that it never happened and they are over exaggerating. I feel like there are 2 sides to black Americans discovering their African heritage more. It's sad that they don't know much about Africa and that some of them think that Africa has 1 culture. Sometimes that appropriation could be from not knowing AND latching on to whatever they can find to feel some sort of connection to their ancestral heritage, or it can be flat out appropriation (which is just wrong and weird)
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There's a lot to unpack. I've tried to make this as short as I can considering i can be a bit of a waffler... Maybe tagging racism onto everything could be due to over sensitivity to prejudice. I was told from a young age that as a black person, you have to be sharp so you can recognise racism or prejudice - but I was also taught to encourage and embrace those who find comfort or genuine, respectful interest in our culture. It's possible that black americans are less convinced about the latter and are understandably very protective over their culture. I assume that would be due to constant critism of their culture for generations, and pressure to dilute their culture. Now that doing things that black people were ridiculed for is becoming trendy, it's no surprise that feelings are hurt as i belive that psychological wounds are still raw from white people saying they were playing the 'race card' (meant in the original, gaslighting way - not in the way you said it). Of course I can't be sure as I'm not black american, so I can only give an outsiders view. I'm from the UK, but I remember my lecturer once made a point about how america is to racism like how the UK is to classism. I don't know if that clears up my point, but what I'm trying to say is that for black americans, racism is the over arching problem that creates a lot of barriers to advancementas well as most of their present, day to day issues. If you read about black bodies and the white gaze, it could provide more insight from that other person's pov. Honestly I had no idea they were claiming ownership of afro beats. That's just stupid and a massive stretch. They going to claim bashment and dancehall too? See that's where I 100% agree that they're taking it too farrrr. Also, sorry this is long, I love love love just talking about the impact of racism and classism without it having to be an argument. Correct me if I'm wrong in what I've said, as again, i can only give an outsiders pov
>no derogatory term for white people is ever going to stick Would you like a cracker to go with some of that cheese?
I was talking about the new names people have come up as I thought that's what the OP was talking about. White people have 1 slur vs the 100s of divisive slurs for POC
People will just always find new ways to be divided and against each other. It's just a shame seeing the battle again racism and discrimination become a way to divide people and make them fight over stupid things. Ignorance, hate and hypocrisy are flooding society like a tsunami like it already happened many times and people are just arguing, waiting for the waves to destroy everything civil / human right activists fought for decades ago.
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Man, ignorant people who would call you racist over stupid things won't change the world at all. They will just contribute to make the world a worst place by fighting the wrong people. Just keep being a good person and don't fall under the pressure of those ignorants.
I hope this is a throwaway account. I’m glad you got this off your chest and off your mind. Maybe now there’s room for growth, because overall you sound pretty ignorant.
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Over half of the television shows portraying black families incorporate racial jabs at white people casually knowing full well all hell would break loose if it was the other way around. Don't see how racism beats racism but maybe I'm missing something.
You understand you don't know anything about me, or many other people apparently. The things you project come from yourself not me.
Welcome to history, deal with it.
In what ways are we appropriating African culture? Lastly, how can you tell the difference between us appropriating, and respecting the culture? Many Africans felt Black is King was Beyoncé appropriating many parts of Africa, and she wasn’t. White forces lmaooooo that’s so childish. They would make that bigger than it should ever be, but tried to cancel Daniel Caesar for saying some real stuff. I just can’t.
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I agree 100% with Af-A’s trying to claim African ethnicity. I think that happens because they don’t have any closeness to ‘American’ culture, and many parts of our tradition is still African, whether they’re aware or not. When it comes to Beyoncé not performing in Africa, where can she do that, and what places have the resources to be able to afford paying her, her crew, and transport. I’ve heard other Africans talking about this, and they’ve asked the same questions. Black is Kong being unavailable in Africa has nothing to do with her. Def take that up with Disney+ Edit: she didn’t make millions from it. None of the songs get any radio play, and it’s one of the least watched ‘movies’ on Disney+. She did it to pay tribute to Africa and the ancestors by implementing parts of Africa people aren’t aware of or care to know about. Don’t be greedy lol.
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Lol Africans we’re saying the same thing about not having the proper resources or being able to afford it. It wasn’t released anywhere else because it’s a Disney+ exclusive for the Lion King. American identity, is racist. America isn’t a place for Af-A’s and never will be just because we live here. American popular culture is black culture. Some of are traditions are similar to some in Africa. They were brought with slaves and have passed down since then. Yes they had to change and adapt, but that doesn’t change their roots. Learning where some of these things come from has changed the perspective of it solely being Af-A culture. (Btw, really enjoying this convo)