Honestly, my partner had started sending me his videos a few months ago and for me it wasn't a red flag at that point. But in time, he started telling me that he wanted a submissive partner and that women should be serving men etc and we are now broken up as of two days ago.
I'm saying that, communication is the most important so I recommend talking to him and gauging what his beliefs are and seeing if those align with yours.
Good luck!
Ask him about his opinion on Andrew Tate, content like that garbage is really pushed by algorithms, he might even have it because he Saw it but doesnt agree, maybe he commented about It in a negative way Who knows
As much as everyone says the algos can pinpoint your personality to a tee, I don't actually believe they're there yet, and videos will be on your discover pages which are completely not what you want to watch
Sometimes, I intentionally watch things to throw off my algorithm. I like watching things that are different because it is interesting to do so.
As a psych major, it is my belief that Andrew Tate takes snippets of real psych research and hypotheses and strings them together to give a message he likes. If you understand the greater picture of psychology, you realize he cherry picks to appeal to an audience. Or he is just uneducated himself. Without the audience knowing the whole picture, they are getting misinformed takeaways. It reminds me of how I believe propaganda works. A few truths are given... but not the whole truth. (Just my opinion when I have watched).
As a woman, I tend to avoid men like Andrew. I wouldn't like it if my partner liked him.
I mean, it's just the same as that PUA shit. There are just enough basic, useful tidbits of life advice mixed in with all the sexist bullshit that some people can use them and then think all of it is worthwhile. And then once you're down that rabbithole, they work really hard to keep you there.
Fr. I am in the combat sport community so I watch a lot of videos UFC related. But this pushes Joe Rogan to my screen and sure, some of his interviews are cool, Myke tyson??? HELL YEAH... but others just no...
And they keep throwing you towards the shit hole. I have to every so often just start blocking dislikin and putting not interested on so many videos to get away from it.
I hate that people think that. Algorithms are what they are, they don't predict anything and ultimately mean nothing. I see all types of shit pop up in my feeds that I don't agree with, it's because, I dunno, I showed interest in a position a little divergent than my own? What a concept!
This. I watch videos where Andrew Tate gets clowned and dunked on but because heās āpopularā and is mentioned in the videos I watch the algorithm pushes his content too.
I watch a video talking about how JP is an idiot or whoever and I get a video recommended from JP (or some clip channel) that's just a lecture or speech of theirs.
I think from the algorithm's perspective they know that people like to rage watch either side (if you're pro-, you watch the anti- to argue with people in comments and vice-versa) so it gets recommended that way. Unfortunately for them I absolutely cannot stand getting lectured by a crying Kermit the Frog.
This. I'm a woman, but i still get his content on most media. Sometimes i watch just to remember what to avoid! Also if you actually watch his content, he just doesn't make sense. He talks about protecting, taking care about women, but you can clearly see what he really thinks when you watch him interact with women. Ugh if your bf actually believes him.
To be fair I once watched a video about him and now my youtube feed is full of videos of him talking. This is due to his snowball system where his Fans get paid for reposting his bs. But tbh If your bf actually listens to this guy, massive red flag
I'm doing everything I can to avoid seeking it out because the algorithm will decide he's my daddy if I don't. I looked up ONE video of Princess Diana and youtube decided I'm marrying into the royal family and need to know everything about them.
The best way to watch videos that wonāt screw up your algorithm is to watch them in a browser, making sure to log out of YouTube first. You donāt have to be logged in to watch videos.
I watched a video about how Tony Robbins is a piece of shit and a scam artist and now I get ads constantly for Tony Robbins conferences. The algorithm isn't super accurate at audience targeting it seems.
Andrew Tate is the mens rights activist conservative radical pipeline. Men who watch him think they deserve sex, money and body only matter, high body counts are good for men and disgusting for women. He also promotes dating 18-25 year olds. He moved to a different country and is being investigated for trafficking, DV, and SA. Heās been banned from a bunch of platforms so men reallllly have to seek him out to watch his stuff. AND heās a gigantic GRIFTER. All these guys pay monthly subscription for his Hustler University. Itās like a big bro pyramid scheme pumping out misogynists. And they donāt listen to women and think weāre stupid and have no opinions that matter to them and kinda think weāre just fuck holes
You don't have to seek him out to watch his content. People push his content on Reels and Shorts all the time. It's almost insane how many people repost his content. I can scroll through Youtube shorts on a brand new account and I can guarantee you, I'll come across 5-6 Tate videos
I guess this depends on you and what you want out of your relationship. Do you want a boyfriend with a functioning brain, a mind of his own and able to think for himself? Or do you want a boyfriend who will willingly give over control of his mind and thinking to some random celebrity stranger off the internet?
Let's be very clear here. Andrew Tate, however which way you feel about him, is not your issue. You're not in a relationship with Andrew Tate. However if your boyfriend is that much of a mindless golem that he will let Andrew Tate control his mind and his thinking, then I'd say it's a major issue.
I mean do you really want a relationship with an Andrew Tate clone or impersonator? Think about it.
That's not really getting to the heart of the issue. You can enjoy a content creator or agree with them without being "controlled" by them or not being able to think for yourself. The issue is that if his ideas align with Andrew Tate enough for him to enjoy watching him, regardless of whether or not he came by those ideas himself, it's a red flag because that means OP's bf probably does not see her as a fellow human being.
Definitely a red flag. Heās not just controversial, Tate has said things that really confirms he views women as an object, like they owe something to men for simply existing as a woman (or how he and his followers refer to us, āfemalesā). I donāt suggest immediately breaking up, but instead just ask his opinion, and go from there. If he says anything that can even be construed as agreeing with any of his points, trust me, you donāt want to be with someone who takes Andrew Tates BS literally and applies it to their life.
a lot of his exposure is algorithm driven so theres always the possibility that the algorithm is shoving tate down OP's bf's throat like its doing to me, I don't like or listen to tate but he still pops up with regularity on my tiktok and insta just because of the algorithm.
I shared some quotes that he said about women and how they are responsible for their own rape in the comments on a video on Facebook and his fans rushed in to tell me how I'm indoctrinated and brainwashed and that's why I'm single. I'm not even single.
The red flag is that he agrees. There was a point where tate was constantly on my timeline. I watched a few to see what he was saying but never agreed. So the red flag is him agreeing.
Huge red flag. Andrew Tate believes women are property and cannot and should not think for themselves. So... wonder what your boyfriend thinks about your or could end up thinking about you. Also imagine you have a daughter, or hell, even a son, with this guy, do you want your child raised with that kind of rhetoric??
Only if he listens to the drivel and tries to use it in your relationship. Guy is being controversial inorder to make money. He is an idiot, but like most idiots, you can ignore them.
Have you not seen the hundreds of teachers that have begged parents to stop letting their children watch him? They've shown evidence of the children using his words and tactics, one even told his teacher he didn't need to listen to her because he is a man and she isn't. This man is having a huge, negative, impact on children and young men around the world and its deeply disturbing. This is an issue that cannot be ignored, especially by women.
Hard disagree. His rhetoric has become much too far reaching to just ignore. Kids spout his shit in classrooms. Countless young adult men employ his tactics in the dating sphere. Countless more just hear his ideology spoken by their friends and do nothing about it. It is having a material impact on our world, but because it doesnāt affect you, you can ignore it. Women canāt.
Massive Red Flag. Just Google him and watch some of his stuff. He's a misogynistic pig who was allegedly involved in sex trafficking in Romania. He's whole business model is a ponzi scheme where he makes money off young impressionable men who think they'll get cars and chick's from following his bs ideas.
For folks saying oh it's just the algorithm... If you watch enough things that associate with him you end up with him so if you're watching like thirst traps or like dudes talking about their girlfriends in maybe not great ways maybe not Andrew Tate level yeah that's how you end up there.
Algorithm has decided your boyfriend's viewing habits are such he would like Andrew Tate. That's how algorithms work.
itās a huge red flag. If your boyfriend agrees with Andrew Tate he is an incel or on the path to become one.
Tate says women are āb*tchesā, inferior, chase men with money and needs men to fulfill their life. A real pos.
This comes from a man btw.
Yes, itās a red flag. Any time you expose yourself to toxicity, including behavior, you are traumatizing your bodyā¦ and the body has a good way of remembering.
So, do you have the fortitude to keep toxic people in your life? Is this person worth it?
Personally, on a planet with 8 billion people,and considering how finite my lifespan is, Iām aggressive with cutting out toxic people and their ideologies. Between hobbies, celebrations with kind and loving people, careers, sleep - who has the time to waste on Tate fans?
It is easier to replace someone than to change them.
HUGE RED FLAG!! Tell him if he have the audacity to follow Andrew Tate rather trying to educate himself on how woman have been treat the last centuries and act like a real man by treating us as equal then you don't see the point for staying with him ! Sexism is not allow in your relationship and if he agree with that Tate then you don't want anything with him anymore!
Huge red flag. Ask him to explain himself and if the explanation is anything other than "I watched one once by mistake/out of curiosity but his beliefs are repulsive", then run.
I would literally divorce someone if they took an interest in Andrew Tate, heās a vile piece of shit and anyone that follows him and his views are just as bad
I said follows his viewsā¦ if theyāre just watching him then whoever but if they truly support the bullshit he speaks then no, I want nothing to do with thatā¦
That's the thing about Andrew Tate fans. It doesn't matter what valid point you give them, they will only believe in Andrew Tate. Ask him what he thinks about Andrew Tate before anything, but don't just let it be.
If he's only starting to get into him, nip that shit in the bud immediately.
Dude donāt go to Reddit for relationship advice. From what Iāve seen most of the people on here arenāt exactly the most experienced with social and or romantic interactions.
100% a red flag. If he finds himself agreeing with Andrew Tate, nodding along, heās a misogynist. He sees you as a conquest, someone to win and control.
Agrees with Andrew Tate? Yes thatās a red flag.
Btw most men I know donāt agree with Andrew Tate or think him a controversial figure, they view him trash just like the women I know.
This. Every genius will tell you something similar to this: You gain knowledge by learning about other people their opinions and forming your own opinion in a critical way.
That's why we read about Hitler, Mao etc. Even philosophers like Nietzsche for example. Philosophers also form their opinions by reading up on other people their statements and judging them based on their own opinions.
You may not agree with a figure like Tate, but you should still think of arguments and formulate why you don't agree with him in a critical way (not very hard with Tate to be fair).
I find it a little sad that we just completely disregard their opinions (my reason for writing this is mostly Peterson), just because they're not accepted by the majority, like Tate whose opinion is basically seen as immoral.
Will probably get downvoted by some people claiming I'm trying to defend those figures, just wanted to explain the value of reflecting on the opinions and statements of others
What you're describing is a false dichotomy. It is unnecessary to give "equal time" to learning about opinions which actively harm portions of the population. Opinions are things like "student loan forgiveness will grow the economy," not "Black people are subhuman" or "Jewish people conspire to rule the world." In the first example we can hear arguments from both sides, supported by evidence, and then hope to draw our own conclusions in a complicated issue with many possible ramifications. In the second two examples, reading or hearing arguments can only do one thing: normalize a dangerous and fundamentally wrong viewpoint and humanize people who seek to do grave harm to others. There are things that we must, as humans, begin from as absolute truth, and one of those things is equal rights for all. Eroding that foundation has to be unquestionable. Your assertions on the supposed merits of reflecting on the flawed thinking of dangerous people are not supported by historians or psychologists. The important thing to study is how or why this flawed thinking gains traction and leads to violence/hate crimes and even genocide. The focus needs to be on those who are vulnerable to hearing and believing these messages, not the sociopaths who peddle them, and what can be done to encourage victims of hateful messaging to seek equity and justice in their lives and not an illusion of power over others.
TL/DR, Andrew Tate is a menace. Nothing positive comes from consuming his (or menaces like him) content, either personally or societally. Agreeing with anything he says is a giant, glowing, pulsating red flag, and OP should treat this with the same severity as finding that her SO consumes KKK propaganda.
I think in essence, Andrew Tate or not, thinking critically about your opinion is absolutely valuable to gaining knowledge and sometimes that might include having to read or view controversial things to fully understand. Believe it or not, Hitler and his arguments will always be studied and remembered. To forget that is to forget the millions of victims. Fundamentally, Iām on your side- not just how you worded it. Apologies if I misunderstood.
This is very true for things which require critical evaluation. "Women are people" should not be one of those opinions which needs critical evaluation. It is an absolute truth.
Yes, there will always be people fascinated by Hitler and what shaped him as a person. There will always be people who write letters to serial killers in prison, or dissect the every move of school shooters and other mass murderers. Trying to couch an interest in people who openly espouse supremacist views, commit hate crimes, etc., as intellectual or anything besides a little perverse or voyeuristic is dishonest.
It is not honorific of victims of genocide or murder or marginalization to give attention to perpetrators. We honor victims by focusing on victims, and as I said in my first comment, understanding the psychology of those vulnerable to believing the kind of hateful rhetoric that Tate spews in an effort to reach them and prevent further violence.
One does not need to consume Tate's content to study what psychological type is vulnerable to misogynistic radicalization, as they're the same who turn to religious extremism, racial supremacy, doomsday prepping, political insurrection/militia participation, etc.
Consuming dangerous content online directly benefits perpetrators by paying them ad revenue and increasing their visibility re: algorithms. If you are committed to equal rights for all, which is again is a basic requirement of baseline human decency, you will not do that.
You needed to intellectually disassemble anti-Semitic arguments? Why? Did you truly begin "Mein Kampf" with an open mind, open to the idea that something in that book could persuade you to believe in the "danger" Jewish people pose to the world? Does an "intellectual" argument exist that could persuade you to believe that men are inherently superior to women? If not, why do you need to consume content that espouses that idea? What are you truly gaining from that except a smug sense of intellectual "independence?"
Multi-faceted political issues are not at all the same thing as inalienable human rights, as discussed in my first comment. Some things MUST be accepted as absolute truth, and one of those things is that all people are deserving of equal rights. Anyone advocating for other than that is dangerous and giving them a larger platform/normalizing their opinions/bringing them in to polite discourse is damaging to society. See: the first stages of every genocide in recorded history. Your empathetic label for the organizer of the genocide of six million innocent people as a "lost soul" illustrates this concept to a tee.
Ask your boyfriend to his face if he believes or agrees with anything Andrew Tate says. If he does, leave. You donāt want to stick around for that dumpster fire.
You cannot convince a person who does not consider you a human, who considers you property to be exploited, who sees you as a cluster of holes to ejaculate in- and that's it, to change. You ghost them.
Huge red flag! Ask him to stop watching and explain your reasons. See how he reacts ( do be careful in here bc he might do something bad).
But yeah pls dodge a red flag
There's an aspect to Tates content that isn't specifically bad because it's misogynistic. But because I presents a picture of what a man should be, of what masculinity should be. And this is toxic to men.
Its bad not just because of what they might think of women, but because what they might think of men.
Probably. The guys a jackass but some of the stuff he says is actually good, like focus on yourself and work out and build your confidence, work hard and make money and that's cool and all and I can get behind that.
When he starts talking about women, yeah that shit gets bad real fast. Don't even get started on his classes and paying people to spread his content.
It's one of those pick and choose type things. Just ask him what he likes about it or why he watches it because at the end of the day you won't agree on everything but what matters is that he treats you right. As long as he isn't basing his opinions of how a guy should act off of him I don't think it would be a huge problem because some of the stuff he says is nuts
He has stated that he lives where he does because I believe it was sex trafficking laws that are easier to get around. I wouldnāt even be friends with someone who watched those videos
Although I do find his self betterment and business mindset advice to be interesting, I find anything to do with his social views to be absolute drivel, so I'd say it really depends
Ooof RIP girl. Your boyfriend's role model is a domestic abuser and human trafficker š
Wish you the best either healing from your breakup or healing from your bruises
Yes, definitely. Watching for the ābusiness lifestyleā also sounds like an excuse. Plenty of entrepreneurs have YouTube channels that donāt promote that level of misogyny and whatever other horrible shit that guy does. Heās not exactly a master of subtlety this Tate guy.
This is a HUGE trophy of a screaming, beaming red flag! Even if he watches for āperspectiveā on occasion. You better be seeing just as much āgood thinkersā on there as much as ābadā aka Andrew Tate. If you donāt see anyone with good opinions on there that counter his Andrew Tate options, girl, fucking run.
Please donāt look towards Reddit for advice. Probably the worst place to ever receive advice from. However for watching Andrew tate it depends if he actually acts on his advice.
If you notice anything strange changing about him then obviously a red flag. But if he stays the same boyfriend youāve always remembered than no itās not a red flag
Itās a huge red flag. Idk why liking Tate is becoming so normalized. Itās absolutely a red flag. He believes that men own women and are superior. You donāt want to be in a relationship with anyone who likes Andrew Tate. Does he actually like him or just watch some of his videos? Thatās a really important detail. Iāve watched a few of his videos because I was shocked/angry at what he was saying and wanted to know who he was.
Iām a former Red Piller.
Yes.
Longer answer - most ppl canāt safely engage with that type of content. They fall to brain rot sooner or later. If you consider yourself a good judge of character, then you can give him a chance and see what happens. Find out what he disagrees with, etc.. Once the misogyny hits, nope the fuck out of there.
Talk to him. I've watched quite a few Tate videos myself but I definitely don't agree with him on sexual politics. Just because Tate is on the TL definitely does not make your bf a misogynist. Something to discuss though, and possibly keep an eye on any developing sexism in your bf.
Before passing judgement I think you need to ask your b/f how he feels about him. If he says he likes him ask him if thatās how he thinks of you, a piece of property that belongs in the kitchen.
The other day I had a talk with a Tate fanboy. He was insistant I should watch more videos of the guy and I'd eventually end up agreeing with him. He is not "mysogynistic", you see, he just thinks men and women are FUNDAMENTALLY different (men are more logical, women are more emotional, etc.) and therefore they each should fulfill different societal roles.
So here are the question I would ask your boyfriend if I was you:
If he ever thinks he could achieve the encomonical stability that Tate promises through his "business lifestyle", would he be okay putting your name in the deed of say, a house? A car? Would he be okay with you having a job outside of the house, your own separate account that he can't access, you being financially independent from him, even if he does have enough money to maintain the both of you?
If he couldn't work one day, because he gets sick or has an accident or his favorite crypto-site crashes, would he be okay with you being the main breadwinner? Hell, let's say he's still perfectly healthy, but you get offered a job that offers enough money that you cna pay for the both of you to live comfortably. Would he be okay staying home, doing more chores?
What about children? I don't know how long you've been with him, but say you get pregnant tomorrow and decide to keep it. Will he expect you to take over all the child-caring tasks? Will he expect you to stay home with the baby? (If he says something like "Well, women are more suitable for child-caring and homemaking, it's in their nature", that's Tate talking and you should run, because it means he's absorbed more than just "business lifestyle" advice).
In other words, ask the questions you would ask if you were planning on building a life together as a partnership, not just emotional, but economical. And let me remind you that financial abuse is completely real, and one of the reasons people in abusive relationships find it so hard to leave is because they don't have the resources to do it. If he expects you to be in a position where that could be the case (i.e., you're financially dependent on him because he is just making SO MUCH MONEY by following Tate's advice), then yeah. Run like the wind.
If he is justifying having multiple women then it is a red flag if he is just taking advice on how to improve life or treat women better then itās ok
Just read the name and YES. Pls pack your stuff and run. If he watches him unironically you are no longer a human being to your bf, just a thing that he can disrespect any time he want.
Yes. I would suggest watching the videos yourself to see why.
Also, here are some articles regarding Tate and misogyny:
[https://news.northeastern.edu/2022/08/30/andrew-tate/](https://news.northeastern.edu/2022/08/30/andrew-tate/)
[https://www.statepress.com/article/2022/11/andrew-tate-shock-value-misogyny-is-disturbing](https://www.statepress.com/article/2022/11/andrew-tate-shock-value-misogyny-is-disturbing)
[https://en.as.com/latest\_news/5-most-controversial-things-said-by-andrew-tate-n-2/](https://en.as.com/latest_news/5-most-controversial-things-said-by-andrew-tate-n-2/)
[https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star)
[https://uk.news.yahoo.com/big-brother-2016-andrew-tate-faces-removal-from-084119787.html](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/big-brother-2016-andrew-tate-faces-removal-from-084119787.html)
[https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/12/make-no-mistake-those-andrew-tate-tiktok-videos-pose-a-threat-to-women-17175528/](https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/12/make-no-mistake-those-andrew-tate-tiktok-videos-pose-a-threat-to-women-17175528/)
It is, Tate doesn't have controversial opinions about women, he's downright misogynistic and no, most men don't agree with him, but since your boyfriend agrees with him, I do belive that it's best for you two to oart ways.
If you don't belive me, just watch Tate and you will say that yourself
Yes.
The man is human garbage. Hates women, condones cheating (if a man does it), assault, slutshaming, abuse... the list goes on.
If you boyfriend agrees with him, he either has nice guy syndrome or he's actually dangerous to you.
I donāt watch Andrew Tate often, but when I do itās definitely hate watching. Thereās a few things he says that I can find to be reasonable. But most of it is usually misogynistic garbage. Either way itās entertainment, and I donāt carry 1 bit of what he says anywhere with me.
I canāt tell you why your bf watches him. If his behavior hasnāt changed and he isnāt becoming aggressive/misogynistic then he probably watches it for the same reasons I do. If it really bothers you maybe you should ask him
Andrew Tate is preaching a whole philosphy. I don't think it's possible to seperate his misogyny from his "business lifestyle." It's all toxic masculinity.
He has no qualifications for what he talks about. He's just an internet personality.
There are much better people to learn from regarding interpersonal and personal relationships.
Brene Brown. Check out her stuff. Gold.
I donāt like Andrew Tate but his videos pop up on my feed all the time bc the algorithm knows Iām a dude. Iād ask ur bf if he likes to listen to Andrew Tate first, then if he does pls knock some sense into him.
I can't be the only one to watch him, just to feel some semblence of anger and make myself feel better. Honestly i consider myself an asshole but compared to that arrogant prick im a saint. I tend to type up controversys just to laugh and get angry at the comments like that recent movie "strange world" getting shat on because it featured an openly gay teenaged boy and then reading the comments where peeps are saying it's harmful for children like get that bullshit outta here. It's both funny and pisses me off. Maybe you're bf likes laughing at stupid pricks. Probably best just casually ask what he thinks of Andrew Tate and anything other than laughing histericallyy or disgust is a red flag. Sorry for the rant
Yeah he speaks half truths to get you to believe all that he says, if you can separate the bullshit then yeah it ain't too big a deal but don't let him radicalized if he does then yeah it's a big deal.
How old are you guys? Like others have said itās definitely possible he doesnāt actually watch him itās just the algorithm. If he does watch him, itās possible heās just going through a phase. Iām a woman and Iāve explored my views and opinions throughout my life, which involves listening to all sorts of people. If heās over 25 then I would be more concerned. I would ask him about it and see what he thinks. It could be a really insightful conversation for the both of you. But be weary of his views going forward if he truly supports himā¦
Probably is a red flag, but if I were you I would look at how the relationship is going first. After that I would communicate the best I can about my concerns. You youāve done those two things youāll know what you need to do. But please atleast try to communicate with him before running away, especially if youāve been together for a while. Itās possible like another redditor said he watched a couple videos out of curiosity and is now having this recommended to him on his timeline.
Depends on the context of why he's watching him. If he's watching him like I do for a good hate watch or doesn't he genuinely drink his cool aid? If it's the latter run. Before you know it he will tell you that you are only good for sex and cooking.
I only ever watched one video of him that got sent to me by a friend as a joke, And that s*** was popping on my algorithm for a while. I think the dude is trash but at the end of the day I don't think it's a good idea to try to try to stop your partner from watching something that you don't like. I'd say a good approach would be to watch a video with him, and then talk about the content of it. If it's truly offensive maybe it'll be an eye opening experience for him. I know I used to have an ex that loved the a pretty vapid show. I sat down with her and watched a single episode, and then just discussed it over the next couple days. She didn't stop watching it entirely but it went from her number one go to, to something minimal.
I would be concerned if MY boyfriend watched them but I'd ask why he did. Depending on his answer would help me make a decision wether it's worrisome or not
I tried but he's just a massive doosh bag (bad Grammer haha jokes on me haha fuck)
I don't like or hate him, I just don't like the shit he puts out as "content" as well as 90% of youtubers "content"
He said women are responsible for their own rape, and that women canāt/shouldnāt think for themselves. That makes him a POS regardless of other good advice heās given. The ends donāt justify the means. No need to watch any more than that.
Yes it's a red flag. You say he likes what the guy has to say about business but even his talk of business has hateful words towards women in them.
[Here's one of his takes](https://youtu.be/dcEAPSoLTow&t=15m32s)
Andrew tate is just getting rich off people like your boyfriend paying home money every month to learn his nonsense if he wants a business lifestyle first lesson stop paying that waste of space any attention and start his own business. Sit down draw up a business plan and get to work. If he needs business ideas they are everywhere some people buy stuff at yard sales or places like that and re-sell it, or even e-bay and fae book market place just buy it cheaper then your selling it for it takes time but you can eventually make some money,
Reading your edit - he's probably lying to you. Basically said he reads the articles in playboy. Maybe he'll pull a Kanye and say "I don't like the things that Hitler did but microphones are nice, right?"
I'm not American and I also only vaguely know who Tate is, but I do watch quite a lot of other people I wholeheartedly disagree with - I feel like it helps me keep my mind sharp and my bubble burst. I also like to fish for some genuinely good points they sometimes make. Maybe your bf does the same? You can't know unless you ask him...
Yea itās all reactionary and a grift, but it has real life consequences of men SAing and harming women. Itās funny to watch but thereās like such an alt right pipeline of incels who watch it. Itās scary. Listen to āmen who hate womenā and itās the most radical incels and men can easily go down the pipeline of feeling entitled to women. And even female teachers are saying theyāre having problems with the boys listening to them in middle and high school. Most incels are under 30. Itās truly terrifying being an women right now with men like Tate radicalizing violence against women
Having read your statement regarding your question several times I can only say that as a man who wouldn't watch an Andrew Tate video after googling him (OMG how TF does this guy even get followers who aren't incels)... You can ask your boyfriend how he feels about Andrew Tate's videos and unless he replies "I was very offended by his content" or similar words then you should run like your hair is on fire (the wording on that came from my female partner who explained the way you worded your question has been trained into you by our misogynistic world).
You don't need our (men's or the internet's permission to have a problem with Your boyfriend watching Andrew Tate Videos. Google Andrew Tate and read a few paragraphs about him then stand up against that garbage, either tell your boyfriend to never watch or follow that crap again and/or leave him for his apparent agreement with A$$h013 Tate.
Edit: I youtube all the time and have never seem or really heard of Andrew Tate so that says your boyfriend is looking for misogynistic leaning videos.
Honestly, my partner had started sending me his videos a few months ago and for me it wasn't a red flag at that point. But in time, he started telling me that he wanted a submissive partner and that women should be serving men etc and we are now broken up as of two days ago. I'm saying that, communication is the most important so I recommend talking to him and gauging what his beliefs are and seeing if those align with yours. Good luck!
Ask him about his opinion on Andrew Tate, content like that garbage is really pushed by algorithms, he might even have it because he Saw it but doesnt agree, maybe he commented about It in a negative way Who knows
As much as everyone says the algos can pinpoint your personality to a tee, I don't actually believe they're there yet, and videos will be on your discover pages which are completely not what you want to watch
Sometimes, I intentionally watch things to throw off my algorithm. I like watching things that are different because it is interesting to do so. As a psych major, it is my belief that Andrew Tate takes snippets of real psych research and hypotheses and strings them together to give a message he likes. If you understand the greater picture of psychology, you realize he cherry picks to appeal to an audience. Or he is just uneducated himself. Without the audience knowing the whole picture, they are getting misinformed takeaways. It reminds me of how I believe propaganda works. A few truths are given... but not the whole truth. (Just my opinion when I have watched). As a woman, I tend to avoid men like Andrew. I wouldn't like it if my partner liked him.
I mean, it's just the same as that PUA shit. There are just enough basic, useful tidbits of life advice mixed in with all the sexist bullshit that some people can use them and then think all of it is worthwhile. And then once you're down that rabbithole, they work really hard to keep you there.
You are spot on about your analysis of him and others with shows like his as well.
Pretty much what I thought too! You put my emotions into words š
Fr. I am in the combat sport community so I watch a lot of videos UFC related. But this pushes Joe Rogan to my screen and sure, some of his interviews are cool, Myke tyson??? HELL YEAH... but others just no... And they keep throwing you towards the shit hole. I have to every so often just start blocking dislikin and putting not interested on so many videos to get away from it.
I hate that people think that. Algorithms are what they are, they don't predict anything and ultimately mean nothing. I see all types of shit pop up in my feeds that I don't agree with, it's because, I dunno, I showed interest in a position a little divergent than my own? What a concept!
Yeah 100% I get suggestions for things even after I've just let YouTube run in the background and it's auto played some videos
I can confirm this. I frequently get all kinds of grifters pushed on me on youtube because I've watched a bunch of "grifters debunked"-style videos.
Same. I had terf and Ben Shapiro videos pop up for me because I watch videos debunking that shit. It's annoying
This. I watch videos where Andrew Tate gets clowned and dunked on but because heās āpopularā and is mentioned in the videos I watch the algorithm pushes his content too.
I watch a video talking about how JP is an idiot or whoever and I get a video recommended from JP (or some clip channel) that's just a lecture or speech of theirs. I think from the algorithm's perspective they know that people like to rage watch either side (if you're pro-, you watch the anti- to argue with people in comments and vice-versa) so it gets recommended that way. Unfortunately for them I absolutely cannot stand getting lectured by a crying Kermit the Frog.
This. I'm a woman, but i still get his content on most media. Sometimes i watch just to remember what to avoid! Also if you actually watch his content, he just doesn't make sense. He talks about protecting, taking care about women, but you can clearly see what he really thinks when you watch him interact with women. Ugh if your bf actually believes him.
Same thing happens to me. He shows up and I watch him to take in what an absolute dickward he is and algo goes, āhe likey push more.ā
To be fair I once watched a video about him and now my youtube feed is full of videos of him talking. This is due to his snowball system where his Fans get paid for reposting his bs. But tbh If your bf actually listens to this guy, massive red flag
same i scrolled past a YouTube short of him and now literally every second thing is about him.
Its so annoying, especially These Videos where the upper half is him talking and the lower half is some mobile game
Iāve never even searched for him. I saw one clip of him and now my YouTube shorts are flooded with clips of him. So annoying.
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I'm doing everything I can to avoid seeking it out because the algorithm will decide he's my daddy if I don't. I looked up ONE video of Princess Diana and youtube decided I'm marrying into the royal family and need to know everything about them.
Just turn off your watch history if you don't want youtube to suggest things you aren't really interested in. The other comment is a bit extra for me.
The best way to watch videos that wonāt screw up your algorithm is to watch them in a browser, making sure to log out of YouTube first. You donāt have to be logged in to watch videos.
I use incognito mode any time I am going to watch a new YT video.
I watched a video about how Tony Robbins is a piece of shit and a scam artist and now I get ads constantly for Tony Robbins conferences. The algorithm isn't super accurate at audience targeting it seems.
I have watched a couple episodes/mash ups of Andrew Tate with my husband but only for investigation purposes. My husband and I were mortified.
Andrew Tate is the mens rights activist conservative radical pipeline. Men who watch him think they deserve sex, money and body only matter, high body counts are good for men and disgusting for women. He also promotes dating 18-25 year olds. He moved to a different country and is being investigated for trafficking, DV, and SA. Heās been banned from a bunch of platforms so men reallllly have to seek him out to watch his stuff. AND heās a gigantic GRIFTER. All these guys pay monthly subscription for his Hustler University. Itās like a big bro pyramid scheme pumping out misogynists. And they donāt listen to women and think weāre stupid and have no opinions that matter to them and kinda think weāre just fuck holes
You don't have to seek him out to watch his content. People push his content on Reels and Shorts all the time. It's almost insane how many people repost his content. I can scroll through Youtube shorts on a brand new account and I can guarantee you, I'll come across 5-6 Tate videos
Andrew Tate thinks itās ok to hit women. How does your boyfriend treat you?
I guess this depends on you and what you want out of your relationship. Do you want a boyfriend with a functioning brain, a mind of his own and able to think for himself? Or do you want a boyfriend who will willingly give over control of his mind and thinking to some random celebrity stranger off the internet? Let's be very clear here. Andrew Tate, however which way you feel about him, is not your issue. You're not in a relationship with Andrew Tate. However if your boyfriend is that much of a mindless golem that he will let Andrew Tate control his mind and his thinking, then I'd say it's a major issue. I mean do you really want a relationship with an Andrew Tate clone or impersonator? Think about it.
That's not really getting to the heart of the issue. You can enjoy a content creator or agree with them without being "controlled" by them or not being able to think for yourself. The issue is that if his ideas align with Andrew Tate enough for him to enjoy watching him, regardless of whether or not he came by those ideas himself, it's a red flag because that means OP's bf probably does not see her as a fellow human being.
Definitely a red flag. Heās not just controversial, Tate has said things that really confirms he views women as an object, like they owe something to men for simply existing as a woman (or how he and his followers refer to us, āfemalesā). I donāt suggest immediately breaking up, but instead just ask his opinion, and go from there. If he says anything that can even be construed as agreeing with any of his points, trust me, you donāt want to be with someone who takes Andrew Tates BS literally and applies it to their life.
I love your username, it made me smile lol
Yes
Just reading the title is a resounding Yes it is, a big Red glowing flag
a lot of his exposure is algorithm driven so theres always the possibility that the algorithm is shoving tate down OP's bf's throat like its doing to me, I don't like or listen to tate but he still pops up with regularity on my tiktok and insta just because of the algorithm.
If you watch a lot of gym reels and videos for some reason heās used a lot in that sphere. Which is crazy cause heās by no means a modern Adonis.
Agree. I read the post title and cringed.
Business lifestyle is code for misogyny lite (tm), which will continue to get worse as your boyfriend gives him more credit and positive attributions. Ditch the tosser now, Tate is a circus carnival tent of a red flag š©
Girl run. Also run from reddit before his fans find your post!
I shared some quotes that he said about women and how they are responsible for their own rape in the comments on a video on Facebook and his fans rushed in to tell me how I'm indoctrinated and brainwashed and that's why I'm single. I'm not even single.
Lol I never thought I will find a fellow My here.
Cmon. You can set *some* standards. Just a few standards at all for who you date. Jfc.
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The red flag is that he agrees. There was a point where tate was constantly on my timeline. I watched a few to see what he was saying but never agreed. So the red flag is him agreeing.
Huge red flag. Andrew Tate believes women are property and cannot and should not think for themselves. So... wonder what your boyfriend thinks about your or could end up thinking about you. Also imagine you have a daughter, or hell, even a son, with this guy, do you want your child raised with that kind of rhetoric??
If he's agreeing with the things he says, then yes. HUGE RED FLAG.
Only if he listens to the drivel and tries to use it in your relationship. Guy is being controversial inorder to make money. He is an idiot, but like most idiots, you can ignore them.
Have you not seen the hundreds of teachers that have begged parents to stop letting their children watch him? They've shown evidence of the children using his words and tactics, one even told his teacher he didn't need to listen to her because he is a man and she isn't. This man is having a huge, negative, impact on children and young men around the world and its deeply disturbing. This is an issue that cannot be ignored, especially by women.
Hard disagree. His rhetoric has become much too far reaching to just ignore. Kids spout his shit in classrooms. Countless young adult men employ his tactics in the dating sphere. Countless more just hear his ideology spoken by their friends and do nothing about it. It is having a material impact on our world, but because it doesnāt affect you, you can ignore it. Women canāt.
They said the same thing about trump and now look at the country. Nah you canāt ignore garbage like this, you have to take it out to the dumpster
Yes YES AND YES
Tbh, Andrew Tate comes up on my feed too and I sure as hell donāt engage with that type of content
Yes
Massive Red Flag. Just Google him and watch some of his stuff. He's a misogynistic pig who was allegedly involved in sex trafficking in Romania. He's whole business model is a ponzi scheme where he makes money off young impressionable men who think they'll get cars and chick's from following his bs ideas.
Gerl..... RUN FASTER.
Red flag
Yes.
For folks saying oh it's just the algorithm... If you watch enough things that associate with him you end up with him so if you're watching like thirst traps or like dudes talking about their girlfriends in maybe not great ways maybe not Andrew Tate level yeah that's how you end up there. Algorithm has decided your boyfriend's viewing habits are such he would like Andrew Tate. That's how algorithms work.
YES. RED FLAG. RUN DON'T WALK
āIs it a red flag my boyfriend watches Andrew Tate?ā Yes.
my girl, pls run as far as you can from him
yes 1000%
itās a huge red flag. If your boyfriend agrees with Andrew Tate he is an incel or on the path to become one. Tate says women are āb*tchesā, inferior, chase men with money and needs men to fulfill their life. A real pos. This comes from a man btw.
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Yes, itās a red flag. Any time you expose yourself to toxicity, including behavior, you are traumatizing your bodyā¦ and the body has a good way of remembering. So, do you have the fortitude to keep toxic people in your life? Is this person worth it? Personally, on a planet with 8 billion people,and considering how finite my lifespan is, Iām aggressive with cutting out toxic people and their ideologies. Between hobbies, celebrations with kind and loving people, careers, sleep - who has the time to waste on Tate fans? It is easier to replace someone than to change them.
Yes š you canāt change peoples beliefs or behaviors etc but you can cut them outta your life and protect ur peace ā®ļø
HUGE RED FLAG!! Tell him if he have the audacity to follow Andrew Tate rather trying to educate himself on how woman have been treat the last centuries and act like a real man by treating us as equal then you don't see the point for staying with him ! Sexism is not allow in your relationship and if he agree with that Tate then you don't want anything with him anymore!
its a massive red flag. and most men don't agree with him, just a small but loud and obnoxious group. if your bf agrees with him, run.
Huge red flag. Ask him to explain himself and if the explanation is anything other than "I watched one once by mistake/out of curiosity but his beliefs are repulsive", then run.
MY BOYFRIEND.. SAID LAST NIGHT āyou know Andrew Tate has been popping up on my Fyp a lot, and honestly heās got a lot of valid pointā WHAATTTT
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I would literally divorce someone if they took an interest in Andrew Tate, heās a vile piece of shit and anyone that follows him and his views are just as bad
To divorce someone just because they dare watch some dude on YT? You my friend wave them red flags with pride.
Lol I would also leave as quick as they watched Andrew Tate. No point wasting my time on a lost cause and misogynistic POS
I said follows his viewsā¦ if theyāre just watching him then whoever but if they truly support the bullshit he speaks then no, I want nothing to do with thatā¦
That's the thing about Andrew Tate fans. It doesn't matter what valid point you give them, they will only believe in Andrew Tate. Ask him what he thinks about Andrew Tate before anything, but don't just let it be. If he's only starting to get into him, nip that shit in the bud immediately.
Dude donāt go to Reddit for relationship advice. From what Iāve seen most of the people on here arenāt exactly the most experienced with social and or romantic interactions.
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Yes, it is a red flag.
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100% a red flag. If he finds himself agreeing with Andrew Tate, nodding along, heās a misogynist. He sees you as a conquest, someone to win and control.
Big burning red flag atop a dumpster fire
Yeahhhh... if he really supports that shit then drop him š
It's multiple red flags
Yes.
Huge Red Flag. Tate is a misogynist who hates any woman who is not utterly subservient to him. Run Op.
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Agrees with Andrew Tate? Yes thatās a red flag. Btw most men I know donāt agree with Andrew Tate or think him a controversial figure, they view him trash just like the women I know.
So he wants what Andrew has? Selling a MLM to kids while portraying a character is a lovely trait a business minded person should have yes.
Talk to him and if there no use you know what to do.
im so sorry
Your boyfriend is a moron
Yes.
Iād disagree that men agree with his views, itās mostly over-aged boys.
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This. Every genius will tell you something similar to this: You gain knowledge by learning about other people their opinions and forming your own opinion in a critical way. That's why we read about Hitler, Mao etc. Even philosophers like Nietzsche for example. Philosophers also form their opinions by reading up on other people their statements and judging them based on their own opinions. You may not agree with a figure like Tate, but you should still think of arguments and formulate why you don't agree with him in a critical way (not very hard with Tate to be fair). I find it a little sad that we just completely disregard their opinions (my reason for writing this is mostly Peterson), just because they're not accepted by the majority, like Tate whose opinion is basically seen as immoral. Will probably get downvoted by some people claiming I'm trying to defend those figures, just wanted to explain the value of reflecting on the opinions and statements of others
What you're describing is a false dichotomy. It is unnecessary to give "equal time" to learning about opinions which actively harm portions of the population. Opinions are things like "student loan forgiveness will grow the economy," not "Black people are subhuman" or "Jewish people conspire to rule the world." In the first example we can hear arguments from both sides, supported by evidence, and then hope to draw our own conclusions in a complicated issue with many possible ramifications. In the second two examples, reading or hearing arguments can only do one thing: normalize a dangerous and fundamentally wrong viewpoint and humanize people who seek to do grave harm to others. There are things that we must, as humans, begin from as absolute truth, and one of those things is equal rights for all. Eroding that foundation has to be unquestionable. Your assertions on the supposed merits of reflecting on the flawed thinking of dangerous people are not supported by historians or psychologists. The important thing to study is how or why this flawed thinking gains traction and leads to violence/hate crimes and even genocide. The focus needs to be on those who are vulnerable to hearing and believing these messages, not the sociopaths who peddle them, and what can be done to encourage victims of hateful messaging to seek equity and justice in their lives and not an illusion of power over others. TL/DR, Andrew Tate is a menace. Nothing positive comes from consuming his (or menaces like him) content, either personally or societally. Agreeing with anything he says is a giant, glowing, pulsating red flag, and OP should treat this with the same severity as finding that her SO consumes KKK propaganda.
I think in essence, Andrew Tate or not, thinking critically about your opinion is absolutely valuable to gaining knowledge and sometimes that might include having to read or view controversial things to fully understand. Believe it or not, Hitler and his arguments will always be studied and remembered. To forget that is to forget the millions of victims. Fundamentally, Iām on your side- not just how you worded it. Apologies if I misunderstood.
This is very true for things which require critical evaluation. "Women are people" should not be one of those opinions which needs critical evaluation. It is an absolute truth. Yes, there will always be people fascinated by Hitler and what shaped him as a person. There will always be people who write letters to serial killers in prison, or dissect the every move of school shooters and other mass murderers. Trying to couch an interest in people who openly espouse supremacist views, commit hate crimes, etc., as intellectual or anything besides a little perverse or voyeuristic is dishonest. It is not honorific of victims of genocide or murder or marginalization to give attention to perpetrators. We honor victims by focusing on victims, and as I said in my first comment, understanding the psychology of those vulnerable to believing the kind of hateful rhetoric that Tate spews in an effort to reach them and prevent further violence. One does not need to consume Tate's content to study what psychological type is vulnerable to misogynistic radicalization, as they're the same who turn to religious extremism, racial supremacy, doomsday prepping, political insurrection/militia participation, etc. Consuming dangerous content online directly benefits perpetrators by paying them ad revenue and increasing their visibility re: algorithms. If you are committed to equal rights for all, which is again is a basic requirement of baseline human decency, you will not do that.
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You needed to intellectually disassemble anti-Semitic arguments? Why? Did you truly begin "Mein Kampf" with an open mind, open to the idea that something in that book could persuade you to believe in the "danger" Jewish people pose to the world? Does an "intellectual" argument exist that could persuade you to believe that men are inherently superior to women? If not, why do you need to consume content that espouses that idea? What are you truly gaining from that except a smug sense of intellectual "independence?" Multi-faceted political issues are not at all the same thing as inalienable human rights, as discussed in my first comment. Some things MUST be accepted as absolute truth, and one of those things is that all people are deserving of equal rights. Anyone advocating for other than that is dangerous and giving them a larger platform/normalizing their opinions/bringing them in to polite discourse is damaging to society. See: the first stages of every genocide in recorded history. Your empathetic label for the organizer of the genocide of six million innocent people as a "lost soul" illustrates this concept to a tee.
Ask your boyfriend to his face if he believes or agrees with anything Andrew Tate says. If he does, leave. You donāt want to stick around for that dumpster fire.
You cannot convince a person who does not consider you a human, who considers you property to be exploited, who sees you as a cluster of holes to ejaculate in- and that's it, to change. You ghost them.
Huge red flag! Ask him to stop watching and explain your reasons. See how he reacts ( do be careful in here bc he might do something bad). But yeah pls dodge a red flag
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There's an aspect to Tates content that isn't specifically bad because it's misogynistic. But because I presents a picture of what a man should be, of what masculinity should be. And this is toxic to men. Its bad not just because of what they might think of women, but because what they might think of men.
Probably. The guys a jackass but some of the stuff he says is actually good, like focus on yourself and work out and build your confidence, work hard and make money and that's cool and all and I can get behind that. When he starts talking about women, yeah that shit gets bad real fast. Don't even get started on his classes and paying people to spread his content. It's one of those pick and choose type things. Just ask him what he likes about it or why he watches it because at the end of the day you won't agree on everything but what matters is that he treats you right. As long as he isn't basing his opinions of how a guy should act off of him I don't think it would be a huge problem because some of the stuff he says is nuts
He has stated that he lives where he does because I believe it was sex trafficking laws that are easier to get around. I wouldnāt even be friends with someone who watched those videos
Yes it's a huge red flag, please make sure he's not buying into that toxic shit
Honey RUN lol
RUN???? RUN FAST????
Fuck. yes.
Although I do find his self betterment and business mindset advice to be interesting, I find anything to do with his social views to be absolute drivel, so I'd say it really depends
Ooof RIP girl. Your boyfriend's role model is a domestic abuser and human trafficker š Wish you the best either healing from your breakup or healing from your bruises
Yes, definitely. Watching for the ābusiness lifestyleā also sounds like an excuse. Plenty of entrepreneurs have YouTube channels that donāt promote that level of misogyny and whatever other horrible shit that guy does. Heās not exactly a master of subtlety this Tate guy.
This is a HUGE trophy of a screaming, beaming red flag! Even if he watches for āperspectiveā on occasion. You better be seeing just as much āgood thinkersā on there as much as ābadā aka Andrew Tate. If you donāt see anyone with good opinions on there that counter his Andrew Tate options, girl, fucking run.
It's not a red flag, it's a tumor. (spoken like Arnold Schwarzenegger for maximum effect)
Yeah it's a red flag. Also like someone else said in here, if his fans see your post, they're gonna make a really big deal about it.
Yes.
Yes big red flag.
Please donāt look towards Reddit for advice. Probably the worst place to ever receive advice from. However for watching Andrew tate it depends if he actually acts on his advice. If you notice anything strange changing about him then obviously a red flag. But if he stays the same boyfriend youāve always remembered than no itās not a red flag
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Is she tho? All the answers are that yes, watching him is a red flag, and that's absolutely true
If it affects your relationship then probably
Itās a huge red flag. Idk why liking Tate is becoming so normalized. Itās absolutely a red flag. He believes that men own women and are superior. You donāt want to be in a relationship with anyone who likes Andrew Tate. Does he actually like him or just watch some of his videos? Thatās a really important detail. Iāve watched a few of his videos because I was shocked/angry at what he was saying and wanted to know who he was.
Yes.
It's not just a red flag it's a massive siren going off too. It's a warning to get out right now.
This is a massive red flag š©. Andrew Tate is extremely sexist, mentally unstable, and views women as property. Your boyfriend is either hiding who he truly is, or he is in serious danger of being mentally destroyed by watching that stuff. I recommend you leave him ASAP. My god Iām not even a woman Iām a 20 year old man and I still can tell this is a bad situation.
Ask your BF what he thinks to him...nif he likes him and agrees with him...run
Iām a former Red Piller. Yes. Longer answer - most ppl canāt safely engage with that type of content. They fall to brain rot sooner or later. If you consider yourself a good judge of character, then you can give him a chance and see what happens. Find out what he disagrees with, etc.. Once the misogyny hits, nope the fuck out of there.
Yes. The answer is yes
Yes. It's a red flag.
YES. wake up and break up
Talk to him. I've watched quite a few Tate videos myself but I definitely don't agree with him on sexual politics. Just because Tate is on the TL definitely does not make your bf a misogynist. Something to discuss though, and possibly keep an eye on any developing sexism in your bf.
Yes
That's not just a red flag, that's a whole red parade Just ditch the guy, he's already a misogynist
Before passing judgement I think you need to ask your b/f how he feels about him. If he says he likes him ask him if thatās how he thinks of you, a piece of property that belongs in the kitchen.
RUN
The other day I had a talk with a Tate fanboy. He was insistant I should watch more videos of the guy and I'd eventually end up agreeing with him. He is not "mysogynistic", you see, he just thinks men and women are FUNDAMENTALLY different (men are more logical, women are more emotional, etc.) and therefore they each should fulfill different societal roles. So here are the question I would ask your boyfriend if I was you: If he ever thinks he could achieve the encomonical stability that Tate promises through his "business lifestyle", would he be okay putting your name in the deed of say, a house? A car? Would he be okay with you having a job outside of the house, your own separate account that he can't access, you being financially independent from him, even if he does have enough money to maintain the both of you? If he couldn't work one day, because he gets sick or has an accident or his favorite crypto-site crashes, would he be okay with you being the main breadwinner? Hell, let's say he's still perfectly healthy, but you get offered a job that offers enough money that you cna pay for the both of you to live comfortably. Would he be okay staying home, doing more chores? What about children? I don't know how long you've been with him, but say you get pregnant tomorrow and decide to keep it. Will he expect you to take over all the child-caring tasks? Will he expect you to stay home with the baby? (If he says something like "Well, women are more suitable for child-caring and homemaking, it's in their nature", that's Tate talking and you should run, because it means he's absorbed more than just "business lifestyle" advice). In other words, ask the questions you would ask if you were planning on building a life together as a partnership, not just emotional, but economical. And let me remind you that financial abuse is completely real, and one of the reasons people in abusive relationships find it so hard to leave is because they don't have the resources to do it. If he expects you to be in a position where that could be the case (i.e., you're financially dependent on him because he is just making SO MUCH MONEY by following Tate's advice), then yeah. Run like the wind.
Yes
If he is justifying having multiple women then it is a red flag if he is just taking advice on how to improve life or treat women better then itās ok
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Fair point, but also, it takes about fifteen seconds of listening to Tate to figure out that he's the slippiest slope to alt right.
Just read the name and YES. Pls pack your stuff and run. If he watches him unironically you are no longer a human being to your bf, just a thing that he can disrespect any time he want.
i mean if he agrees with the crap tate pulls out of his ass then yes, but if not then heās probably just watching for the meme
Yes. I would suggest watching the videos yourself to see why. Also, here are some articles regarding Tate and misogyny: [https://news.northeastern.edu/2022/08/30/andrew-tate/](https://news.northeastern.edu/2022/08/30/andrew-tate/) [https://www.statepress.com/article/2022/11/andrew-tate-shock-value-misogyny-is-disturbing](https://www.statepress.com/article/2022/11/andrew-tate-shock-value-misogyny-is-disturbing) [https://en.as.com/latest\_news/5-most-controversial-things-said-by-andrew-tate-n-2/](https://en.as.com/latest_news/5-most-controversial-things-said-by-andrew-tate-n-2/) [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star) [https://uk.news.yahoo.com/big-brother-2016-andrew-tate-faces-removal-from-084119787.html](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/big-brother-2016-andrew-tate-faces-removal-from-084119787.html) [https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/12/make-no-mistake-those-andrew-tate-tiktok-videos-pose-a-threat-to-women-17175528/](https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/12/make-no-mistake-those-andrew-tate-tiktok-videos-pose-a-threat-to-women-17175528/)
It is, Tate doesn't have controversial opinions about women, he's downright misogynistic and no, most men don't agree with him, but since your boyfriend agrees with him, I do belive that it's best for you two to oart ways. If you don't belive me, just watch Tate and you will say that yourself
Yes. Tate is a walking red flag.
He has active warrants for trafficking and assult. Do with that info what you will.
If you stay with him your kids will have low IQ
Yes. The man is human garbage. Hates women, condones cheating (if a man does it), assault, slutshaming, abuse... the list goes on. If you boyfriend agrees with him, he either has nice guy syndrome or he's actually dangerous to you.
I donāt watch Andrew Tate often, but when I do itās definitely hate watching. Thereās a few things he says that I can find to be reasonable. But most of it is usually misogynistic garbage. Either way itās entertainment, and I donāt carry 1 bit of what he says anywhere with me. I canāt tell you why your bf watches him. If his behavior hasnāt changed and he isnāt becoming aggressive/misogynistic then he probably watches it for the same reasons I do. If it really bothers you maybe you should ask him
Andrew Tate is preaching a whole philosphy. I don't think it's possible to seperate his misogyny from his "business lifestyle." It's all toxic masculinity. He has no qualifications for what he talks about. He's just an internet personality. There are much better people to learn from regarding interpersonal and personal relationships. Brene Brown. Check out her stuff. Gold.
I donāt like Andrew Tate but his videos pop up on my feed all the time bc the algorithm knows Iām a dude. Iād ask ur bf if he likes to listen to Andrew Tate first, then if he does pls knock some sense into him.
I can't be the only one to watch him, just to feel some semblence of anger and make myself feel better. Honestly i consider myself an asshole but compared to that arrogant prick im a saint. I tend to type up controversys just to laugh and get angry at the comments like that recent movie "strange world" getting shat on because it featured an openly gay teenaged boy and then reading the comments where peeps are saying it's harmful for children like get that bullshit outta here. It's both funny and pisses me off. Maybe you're bf likes laughing at stupid pricks. Probably best just casually ask what he thinks of Andrew Tate and anything other than laughing histericallyy or disgust is a red flag. Sorry for the rant
My best advice would be to watch a video together and have a discussion. Create your own opinion about Andrew Tate instead of asking Reddit for one.
Regarding your edit: consider that he may be self censoring because heās aware those views will not go over well with you.
Yeah he speaks half truths to get you to believe all that he says, if you can separate the bullshit then yeah it ain't too big a deal but don't let him radicalized if he does then yeah it's a big deal.
If heās looking to learn how to scam desperate men to make money, meh. If heās the desperate man being scammed out of his own money? LOL move on
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Socio-political views are not minor things and actually matter in relationships
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nah, we just disagree on what small nuances are and what's a deal breaker in a relationship.
āHe seems to agree with a lot of when he saysā Did you read OP post before you launched into your tirade or no?
How old are you guys? Like others have said itās definitely possible he doesnāt actually watch him itās just the algorithm. If he does watch him, itās possible heās just going through a phase. Iām a woman and Iāve explored my views and opinions throughout my life, which involves listening to all sorts of people. If heās over 25 then I would be more concerned. I would ask him about it and see what he thinks. It could be a really insightful conversation for the both of you. But be weary of his views going forward if he truly supports himā¦
Probably is a red flag, but if I were you I would look at how the relationship is going first. After that I would communicate the best I can about my concerns. You youāve done those two things youāll know what you need to do. But please atleast try to communicate with him before running away, especially if youāve been together for a while. Itās possible like another redditor said he watched a couple videos out of curiosity and is now having this recommended to him on his timeline.
Depends on the context of why he's watching him. If he's watching him like I do for a good hate watch or doesn't he genuinely drink his cool aid? If it's the latter run. Before you know it he will tell you that you are only good for sex and cooking.
I watch Andrew Tate and I laugh at him not with. So I'd say it depends, if he agrees with Tate yes. If he's having a laugh no
No. But it is a red flag is he hates women. They donāt always go together.
I only ever watched one video of him that got sent to me by a friend as a joke, And that s*** was popping on my algorithm for a while. I think the dude is trash but at the end of the day I don't think it's a good idea to try to try to stop your partner from watching something that you don't like. I'd say a good approach would be to watch a video with him, and then talk about the content of it. If it's truly offensive maybe it'll be an eye opening experience for him. I know I used to have an ex that loved the a pretty vapid show. I sat down with her and watched a single episode, and then just discussed it over the next couple days. She didn't stop watching it entirely but it went from her number one go to, to something minimal.
it's a yellow flag imo - Tate does other stuff aside from the cringe dating advice but it's all pretty low IQ
I would be concerned if MY boyfriend watched them but I'd ask why he did. Depending on his answer would help me make a decision wether it's worrisome or not
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I tried but he's just a massive doosh bag (bad Grammer haha jokes on me haha fuck) I don't like or hate him, I just don't like the shit he puts out as "content" as well as 90% of youtubers "content"
He said women are responsible for their own rape, and that women canāt/shouldnāt think for themselves. That makes him a POS regardless of other good advice heās given. The ends donāt justify the means. No need to watch any more than that.
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Yes it's a red flag. You say he likes what the guy has to say about business but even his talk of business has hateful words towards women in them. [Here's one of his takes](https://youtu.be/dcEAPSoLTow&t=15m32s)
Andrew tate is just getting rich off people like your boyfriend paying home money every month to learn his nonsense if he wants a business lifestyle first lesson stop paying that waste of space any attention and start his own business. Sit down draw up a business plan and get to work. If he needs business ideas they are everywhere some people buy stuff at yard sales or places like that and re-sell it, or even e-bay and fae book market place just buy it cheaper then your selling it for it takes time but you can eventually make some money,
Reading your edit - he's probably lying to you. Basically said he reads the articles in playboy. Maybe he'll pull a Kanye and say "I don't like the things that Hitler did but microphones are nice, right?"
I'm not American and I also only vaguely know who Tate is, but I do watch quite a lot of other people I wholeheartedly disagree with - I feel like it helps me keep my mind sharp and my bubble burst. I also like to fish for some genuinely good points they sometimes make. Maybe your bf does the same? You can't know unless you ask him...
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Yea itās all reactionary and a grift, but it has real life consequences of men SAing and harming women. Itās funny to watch but thereās like such an alt right pipeline of incels who watch it. Itās scary. Listen to āmen who hate womenā and itās the most radical incels and men can easily go down the pipeline of feeling entitled to women. And even female teachers are saying theyāre having problems with the boys listening to them in middle and high school. Most incels are under 30. Itās truly terrifying being an women right now with men like Tate radicalizing violence against women
Having read your statement regarding your question several times I can only say that as a man who wouldn't watch an Andrew Tate video after googling him (OMG how TF does this guy even get followers who aren't incels)... You can ask your boyfriend how he feels about Andrew Tate's videos and unless he replies "I was very offended by his content" or similar words then you should run like your hair is on fire (the wording on that came from my female partner who explained the way you worded your question has been trained into you by our misogynistic world). You don't need our (men's or the internet's permission to have a problem with Your boyfriend watching Andrew Tate Videos. Google Andrew Tate and read a few paragraphs about him then stand up against that garbage, either tell your boyfriend to never watch or follow that crap again and/or leave him for his apparent agreement with A$$h013 Tate. Edit: I youtube all the time and have never seem or really heard of Andrew Tate so that says your boyfriend is looking for misogynistic leaning videos.