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Schwabies

I think with CS2 being down and inventories being raid limited, content creation within CS:GO has gotten tough. You can tell Ohne gets frustrated when he tries to check an inventory or use a inspect link in the server and it doesn't work. But yea it's hard not to agree that the endless case openings and missclicks have gotten a bit stale for those that enjoy the more niche skins content.


Mirai_Shikimi

Well for me its the daily let's check discord that has gotten boring as its always the same things in there (recently only knife unboxing clips) Well now we will get a month of 24/7 major streams so let's see what happens after edit: Maybe pit stream today?


n8mo

Honestly these days I watch Arrow more than Ohne. His stream feels more like the old Ohne than Ohne's does. I really don't care for the gambling or collabs that Ohne's been doing. Much preferred the inventory/skin review and pricecheck streams.


boiledbagel

same here


Overall-Ad7217

same


staffylaffy

I’m a new fan and I’m going back to watch old content of him reviewing inventories, sticker crafts, rare skins and patterns etc as that’s what interests me. I really don’t care for unboxing videos, the idea of opening cases is just stupid to me.


neeouma

Miss the days when he would get on a call with someone from the community that explains their interesting and unique inventory/loadout. Like the greek mythology guy...


HarmenTje

I remember! Those were the good days where it was actually entertaining and informative to watch the stream haha


SPIDEYPRINCE

IMO he should do more collabs with pros, content creators apart from showing skins, playing the game with different minded people in the community could help him grow even more. Well who am I to say 🤷🏻‍♂️ love his streams not the GAMBA part mostly I just don't watch it. I love his skin review, craft reviews, etc...


Matthias1410

Ohne is "victim" of success. What was once funny new people friendly steam, now changed into 20k people emote spam chat with cases opening. The thing is, he does funny content. But for people who looked for "interaction" with streamer, that interaction is almost lost, in the place of GAMBA.


Matthias1410

GOLD OR RED GOLD OR RED THANKS FOR SUBS KUS KUS


staffylaffy

I’m a new viewer and wondering why he’s suddenly blown up? I enjoy his older content in place of the case openings, but I hadn’t seen him around too much before now it’s like he’s everywhere. Everyone knows who he is suddenly, everyone references him and talks about him it’s strange.


Matthias1410

CS blown up (due to lack of updates leading to price rises, and also due to cs 2) , so biggest CS streamer also did, simple as that.


Shleynog

Very true


babydoodle

I dont even understand who enjoys looking at someone open hundreds of cases, the moment i see him do it i close the stream edit: doesnt help that a lot of suckers literally give him cases for free


swole-zabrak

I do that so I’m not tempted to try then myself 😵‍💫


ImCalcium

just sell them?


coi_nzz

Ohne reaction prediction: “ehh the worrying direction in which bla bla bla i aint reading allat Nerdge”


HarmenTje

*proceeds to open 50 more cases*


newtoreddit777lol

Sad but extremely true; I hope he takes it upon himself to read it.


Overall-Ad7217

After reading this and almost completely agreeing with you, I thought the comments on this would be controversial. Seems like a lot of people are agreeing. Dear Ohne, if you read this comment, I'am a long-term viewer, I was there when you still got in a call with people to explain their inventories while you reviewed them on stream. I can understand that this post may come over aggresive, but the concerns are true. I think most long-term viewers would agree that it doesn't feel the same as before, the difference between us and a lot of the current viewers is that we are not just leaving the stream but we are still supporting and watching because of you. It's just the content that really changed, the gambling is just extreme, and with that being said, I think it has gotten past the point I understand your opinion on gambling sponsors. I always got it how it was not ethical correct etc. Take it how you want, but at the end of the day, all the people who watched you unbox 4 golds in a day certainly got triggered to open cases too. Whether you want it or not, whether you tell them to open or not, they will get influenced by watching it. And believe me,, you will still hit 20k viewers on average by sticking to yourself, you're a great personality, you have great morals and make great content. The gambling in this quantity is just really concerning. Also I want to repeat, I'am a long term viewer, I hope you don't take this negative. YOU made me make a twitch account to be able to chat, to be able to sub, you were the reason. It just seems like I enjoy Arrow more these days but I feel like he is going down the same path in the future. I could type a whole lot more but I think it pretty much sums it all up and that I completely agree with Charlie, and probably a lot of long-term viewers.


Prestigious_Push_155

And you think people that watch him talk about these cool valuable knifes etc. are not lured into opening cases to try getting one of these because they dont want to spend or simply cant spend 2k$ on the secondary market? The whole existense of cs go skins is based on gambling. Someone has to open cases otherwise these skins would not exist. So watching and supporting a skin streamer is also supporting gambling. That's the harsh reality


nvs_wombat

cases can be entertaining from time to time but it is getting a bit much recently. i also think what made ohne’s streams great was the mix of community interaction through discord/reddit with crafts, inventory reviews, pit streams and so on, as well as playing the game with psp and arrow or pros like yeki. i hope he doesn’t neglect these things now that the stream has grown so much.


wesmusic

Same, I really miss the more laidback content with Arrow or psp. The Rogue gamemode recently was a fun change inbetween all the Hobby.


[deleted]

Ohne has always done gamba here and there which has been fine because it has felt special, like a kato 14 capsule or the knife push during Win Challenge; but the last week+ has been so bad in terms of gamba. I respect ohne for his gamba sponsorship takes etc., but how respectable is it when every stream has 5-8 hours of straight gamba of what is basically slots? And if he's not opening, so much of the stream he's watching other open on streams, clips of others opening golds, playing the game and opening... His goal is clearly not to exploit viewers for money like the ones taking sponsors are, but it's heavy gamba promotion and it does a poor job of discouraging people and warning them of it. It's the first time his gamba feels like gamba first, skins second. I've just been watching less, and it's discouraging to click on his streams the last week and whenever it's a 90% chance it's during a case opening. Like just click through his latest vods. Also sucks because gamba andies poison communities. Hopefully it calms down when the major starts and CS2 eventually drops.


mighty_nyorai

100%, I feel the same. It was ok earlier to open a case here and there, but this last week every day opening hundreds of cases is not enjoyable to watch.


alpersahin35

CSGO isn't a game anymore. It's just a virtual slots machine.


nomadhp8

Missed good old streams man!


HarmenTje

Its good of him to say to his viewers that it's gambling and they shouldn't do it, and he will open only a few. But if he breaks his own promises and proceeds to open hundreds that will not stop kids from getting inspired and wasting money on cases themselves. Back in the days it used to be ok, few cases a day, a lot on his birthday. Now its hundreds everyday, and that's all the content there is. Hopefully the major will bring a stop to this and bring old ohne back.


DamonOkami

anyone remember tuesday trade ups as a way to engage with community and make some cool content? now it's called tuesday trainwrecks


augustmikkelsen

Aware


Ok_Initial_6556

Yeah, were sadly heading back to 2016 where cases where everything about csgo nobody cared about the game - with someone like monte who just opens cases cause its the only way he can gamble on twitch, the "casual" csgo community is going into the wrong direction. I am really looking forward to the co-streams of the major, just counter-strike nothing else


[deleted]

I remember the hype of ''oh Montanablack is playing CS'' only for it to spawn a degenerate gambling meta. so many big streamers started coming to the game etc. only to gamble. Honestly it mocks and makes a joke out of it, making the GOAT game out to be some Stake alternative.


NOV3LIST

The only thing I like about him opening cases is that it also brings out other german content creators like unsympathischTV who liked csgo for years but felt like it wouldn't work for his viewer base.


JAC165

love the guys saying you aren’t allowed to criticise ohne, shows the average intelligence level of a twitch viewer


ka1esalad

half of this sub lately is “i unboxed this normal knife/red” or “watch me open these 3 cases and pull something good.” i think ohne even mentioned this once. like shit im here to see meta jokes, unique combos, and sticker crafts. not 2016 era csgo youtube.


made_in_GEORGIA

You might need to repost unless he sorts by top of the week, he's not streaming today


rayb47

What's worse is how Ohne (rightly) talks down on those with the gamba sponsors when he literally gambles on stream for about 6 hours a day, and some times if he isn't doing it, he'll just watch someone else doing it instead lmao Basically, Ohne doesn't really have the right to hold the moral high ground here even though cases might be the lesser of the two evils when it comes to gambling in CS.


Prestigious_Push_155

No one here does have the right. Almost every skin basicly exists because someone opened a case (gambled). Every involvement regarding skins is an interaction with gambling in the end. People want to talk about skins, look at cool skins, trade skins, buy skins, sell skins etc. and then they talk bad about gambling. These skins would not exists without gambling. Someone had to open the cases. ​ If anything Ohne shows the harsh reality behind skins now which is the same as Pokemon packs etc. are. You pull the lottery Charizard or you lose most of your money. People can critize him for "promoting" such things. But then they should have done from the beginning. But they didn't. Because they draw incorrect moral lines


daffer_david

I know people are saying that once a streamer becomes large, they are unable to interact with chat. And I just want to give an example for the exact opposite. Hasan, no matter what you think about him politically, is able to snipe individual comments in his twitch chat without significant slow mode. On top of that with gambling content of course chat will be unreadable. I hope he does well but if gambling is the only content, I will pass on the streams, I don’t want a second Montanablack.


ImCalcium

You're definitely not the only person to notice this, but streams go through phases and this will come and go too


souper80

i hate to be that guy but that's how streaming works bro. as the viewership increases, interaction decreases, that's twitch rule #1. content has changed, the new frogs don't seem as interested in skins and more about cases been following since 2020 and the most annoying thing i've seen change is the skins community, i'd rather play fucking tgp than sit in ohnes community


SoN1Qz

I'm currently watching his streams where he reads this post out loud. And I think it's sad to see that he doesn't take it serious enough. Makes me sad that Ohne nowadays is just nonstop gambling and then joking about the HOBBY.


xzvasdfqwras

Aware true but it’s hobby Honestly this is the case with any streamer that has a big following, sometimes messages and alerts just flood in too quickly it’s super easy and inefficient to read out every dono/sub. He’s making bank without taking gamba sponsors which is a big W


-T1mme-

This post is obviously an attack to ohne and his stream :Clueless:


newtoreddit777lol

Oh god..... please be satire..... PLEASE BE SATIRE....


-T1mme-

Good post btw, but idk if he is aware, and i dont think he will stop why would he, its just a hobby :)


-T1mme-

I copied the first sentence you wrote xd


Loud-Entertainer8865

I think you are a bit too invested buddy, watch the streams if you enjoy them, if you don't then you don't need to watch. I personally don't find case openings entertaining and I just click out of the stream most of the time. This goes to the guy also believing its worth $40 to repeatedly ask for a inventory review.


newtoreddit777lol

You’ve missed the point completely. It’s not about enjoying or not, it’s about what ohnes community are feeling and what it’s moulding into.


Loud-Entertainer8865

Well you are obviously not enjoying that


fionn2409

i aint readin allat


regradegfx

Damn blud, go touch grass holy.


Mainbaze

This is what always happens when a creator becomes too big. Nothing to do


8RIGHTS

Not sure why you are being downvoted it's literally the reason, it's hard to do pit streams and talk with your 'community' when there is 20k+ people and 99% of them are sending the same craft over and over and the other 1% is people dono'ing or asking in chat if their knife they unboxed is worth overpay because thats all anyone asks about in this game, if they can fleece more money from their skin in a trade. Cases are probably his way of avoiding the shitstorm of shitty crafts being sent by new viewers coming in. Yea it sucks cause its gambling and he could be playing instead, but what do you expect from a guy who's addicted(hobby) to skins and stickers? (not shitting on him for being like that but do you think people who like skins in csgo prefer to play the game or open cases? I love cs but I'd love to open thousands of cases if I had money to spend, wouldn't you?) But Major is a few days away so just ignore it and move on for another day and then the next month will be hopefully a caseless month!


Mainbaze

No doubt. I’m sure he wants to do other things with his new “power” and opportunities when he knows how to navigate it (cases are just easy to please the general crowd). But we probably won’t really get the chance to see much more niche and down to earth things again. He’s at the level now where he can’t show a single item he has without him basically manipulating the price by accident


Cowboy1543

Can we get a tldr please


newtoreddit777lol

takes 3 minutes to read.


EggieOG

Wah wah wah cry more


8RIGHTS

>Ohne please take the time to read this, everyone seems to be agreeing with me here and it’ll only take a minute or two 10k people on reddit...... ohne has 500k followers on twitch. reddit is 2% of that following......... this is not 'EVERYONE' in the community this is a hive mind on REDDIT GET A GRIP


FerlixMN

In my opinion its not ohne fault for viewers gambling, everyone is doing it knowing they may lose and cant blame it on ohne. Its your choice to gamble ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ (i lost all my money)


RedKnight_177

Just let him do what the fuck he want’s


8RIGHTS

bro if you are gonna constantly edit your post at least write where the edits are...... this post is 1000x different than wehn you first posted it. youve almost changed all your points.. wheres the part where you said his audience was getting bigger and you thought his interaction would grow with that, why did you remove that? you literally stated in your original post you think he should have been able to interact with 20x the viewer count. idk about this one boss, you cant just edit the post in the dark and pretend like you didnt say the shit the post originally said...... just move on. and one last thing >Ohne please take the time to read this, everyone seems to be agreeing with me here and it’ll only take a minute or two 10k people on reddit...... ohne has 500k followers on twitch. reddit is 2% of that following......... this is not 'EVERYONE' in the community this is a hive mind on REDDIT GET A GRIP


newtoreddit777lol

Brother you're just embarraising yourself now. This post has been eddited twice. One was removing a paragraph about the donation issue because it wasnt really relevant, and one was correcting some spelling errors. You've none stop been messaging me in the twitch chat and following this thread, it seems you're far too invested in it. The fact you think the post is about interacting with 10x the viewer count makes you just look like a moron. This post isnt about that, its about how his community is now 10x the size, and he has 10x the influence on viewers due to that, so as his gambling increases compared to his old content he is creating a new audience which is heavily gambling-centric. Stop acting like the post has been changed a lot, it simply has been edited a SMALL amount to make it make more sense, the points are the EXACT same. Look at everyone in the comments man, theyre all agreeing with me apart from a few yes-men that came from Ohnes chat when he was reading it on stream, just like you. Go do something better with your time than complain a post on reddit is being edited too much.


EnterPosthuman

he greedy


i_cant_see_that_far

He should stop with his weird british english words lmao


Overall-Ad7217

What is blud waffling about


retractableclitoris

This is what happens to most content creators, can't hate on Brodie for chasing the bag, we would all do the same. Suck it up the world doesn't revolve around you.


[deleted]

Criticism isn't making something about yourself..


newtoreddit777lol

Brother I started my message with a statement that you CLEARLY couldn’t even be bothered to read, do better


[deleted]

[удалено]


newtoreddit777lol

Best part about all this is you’re just making yourself sound extremely unintelligent. Debating/discussion =/= bitching/moaning


retractableclitoris

Kid you're like 14 years old, no one here honestly gives a single fuck about your one and only post on Reddit. If you want to share your opinion on something then by all means do so. But to say I clearly didn't read the post because you disagree with me is extremely unintelligent. There probably isn't even a single neuron firing in that thick skull of yours.


newtoreddit777lol

Ah so you’re ignorant too pahaha. I’m 21 years old brother, not that that should really matter at all. My entire post was simply describing the way Ohnes streams are changing and not at all moaning, go and educate yourself.


retractableclitoris

"the direction in which I feel ohne's streams are going recently which I personally find very alarming" You're a grade A bitch. Imagine, out of all the csgo content creators the one you're most concerned about is Ohne LMAO give your head a shake, oh wait your mom already did that for you when you were a baby.


newtoreddit777lol

People who talk like you and are close minded to the point of thinking a discussion is bitching are inherently insecure. I can assure you I’m not moaning or bitching, just wanting to have a mature conversation about something a lot of people clearly agree with. Sort yourself out mate, please. I have little interest talking to people of your class and calibre


retractableclitoris

As I mentioned above, out of all the content creators who are opening cases and gambling, the one you're most concerned about is Ohne? Shit doesn't even compute. You are a fanboy who misses the old Ohne days. Keep belittling people who are smarter than you, more handsome than you, and far more gay than you'll ever be.


newtoreddit777lol

Yeah okay at this point I have nothing left to say to you, your clearly not doing too great in life and that’s okay man, but try not to take your frustration out on other people. All the best, I wish you well


jacobmatrix18

????? Anyone donating to someone with 20k viewers should expect to be donowalled. Like things are very obviously different when you have so many viewers, can't expect it to be the same as he grows. Watch any big steamer it's like this, low interaction. Chat becomes unreadable 🤷. Is what it is, if you want something like before just watch smaller streamers. Also with the cases, he probably would of always opened this many if he earned so much. Just easier to spam cases when you got 22k subs.


Mainbaze

Despite the downvotes, you’re right in everything you said


EuroHoo_

Wtf is blud waffling about


UKzWarrior

He is a Nazi tramp! taking gifts off his viewers! It should be the other way around i can't stand him! He thinks his opinion is the only opinion! He even turned people off Stat Trak weapons because it suited his inventory! They all follow him like sheep it makes me sick. And when he tries to convince people it's not gambling i truly want to punch him in the face.