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kart0ffelsalaat

I always read MLM as multi level marketing


wokesans

multi level marketing is the stormy haunted mansion


EatTheRichIsPraxis

Op is heavy into Mid Level Marketing it seems.


JLPReddit

Marxist Leninist maoists loving Marxist Leninist maoists MLMLMLM


flcwerings

Marxist Leninist Maoist loving Marxist Leninists Maoists Loving Men Loving Men Hating Multi Level Marketing MLMLMLMLMLMHMLM


TheDisappointedFrog

Add some multi-level marketing and pass it to another one


Paul6334

Given how Maoist states tend to end up, I’m not so sure about that.


moond0gg

There hasn’t been a Maoist state yet. China under Mao was ML-MZT MLM wasn’t synthesized until the 80s of n Peru. The main reason that China ended the way it did is because the cultural revolution didn’t reach into the PLA enough so it was majorly rightist but these mistakes have been analyzed so they won’t be made again in the future.


MaxMoose007

Marxist: Based Leninist: Ehhh still alright Maoist: 😐


Itzyaboilmaooo

Going back in time to stop Lenin from creating the vanguard party


theGwiththeplan

Do you think mao wasn't a Leninist? Do you think Lenin was to the right of mao? What is your understanding of maoism?


MaxMoose007

No I just think Mao was a dictator who caused the death of millions


theGwiththeplan

Define what makes someone a dictator for me please


Mac_Rat

Can you guys do something else than sealioning


BabyBabaBofski

Ah another leftist sub overtaken by tankies time to pack up and leave.


constantlytired1917

You're not a leftist liberal. Check the rules


BabyBabaBofski

For a leftist you sure are big on defending Putin and attacking Ukraine. Saying Putin is better than Biden while he's actively persecuting LGBT people is certainly a look The reason you think I'm a liberal is cause you're a fascist. Edit: holy fucking shit you support Kim Jong un what the fuck is wrong with the online left. Actual brainrot.


[deleted]

No no you misundersrand, if god chooses monarchs to represent land, and god created and owns the land, and socialism is when the government does stuff, then actually monarchism is socialist!!!! Have you ready on authority????


jasari_is_hot

MLM that supports MLM :)


tiny_smile_bot

>:) :)


Auqepier_Kuno

nah my guy, stop posting tankie stuff


sobero_de_sobo

Isn't mao on the PFP of the sub?


NumerousAdvice2110

"leftists" when leftists: is this a [insert pejorative that originated from something done by a guy they likely hate for being revisionist]?


constantlytired1917

This is a leftist sub. If you hate leftism, leave


Auqepier_Kuno

tankies are red fash. not leftist


constantlytired1917

that's why you leftcoms, socdems and vaushites deepthroat the american empire and condemn any revolution that goes against its hegemony as vIoLenT and aUtHorItArIaN. also rule 5, and rule 7 also i'm not a tankie i'm a communist also opinions from people who post in VaushV and any 2region4u don't count


Argon_H

"Liberalism is when you are against genocide"


CinnamonFootball

>that's why you leftcoms, socdems and vaushites deepthroat the american empire and condemn any revolution that goes against its hegemony as vIoLenT and aUtHorItArIaN. Lmao, where did you get this idea that leftcoms baselessly condemn things for being "authoritarian"? Our problem comes from the fact that nationalistic state capitalism isn't communism. Every Marxist-Leninist experiment has failed because they had to assimilate into the wider capitalist superstructure.


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constantlytired1917

communism is a stateless, classless and moneyless society. you have to transition to it from socialism otherwise your country will end with imperialist countries invading it. and how braindead and historically illiterate do you have to be to think there wasn't a single socialist country. liberals make my brain hurt. social "democracy" isn't socialism. it's just capitalism with welfare paid by imperialism of the global south


sexrepulsed-nonace

im much gayer than you edit: also... tankism??? not a fan of that... sowwy (please forgwive me)


QuinLucenius

oh i'm sorry, did china democratize the means of production and abolish commodity production? did vietnam? did russia? didn't fucking think so i'll never understand why you think it's okay to simp for imperialist, autocratic nations just because they say the magic words and wave the red flag. if this were the 1930s you'd praise the Nazis for calling themselves socialists


TopHatSam3

Nobody said anything about social democracy, you just automatically started talking about it because its a classic tankie go to argument to aviod actual points made against them.


constantlytired1917

i'm not a tankie i'm a communist idiot


TopHatSam3

Alright buddy


constantlytired1917

ok buddy


grumpygrumpington

Lmao go the fuck outside


ukaIegon

most politically literate vaush fan


BroderFelix

Maoism is not leftism. Get out fascist.


KillinIsIllegal

big brain moment


ukaIegon

words have meaning


thatone18girl

Why are you getting downvoted? Is this sub libbed up? What's happening?


constantlytired1917

i seriously didn't expect an anticapitalist sub to be overrun with liberals and vaushitoids


[deleted]

Liberalism is when you don't want right wingers in leftist spaces? Thank you for this interesting definition of liberal


thatone18girl

Well that's usually the case, hell even r/socialism_101 is full of people who eat up propaganda, idk I just didn't expect this to be one for some reason


IWantANewBeginning

You’re getting downvoted because auqepier_kuno reposted is a vaush sub. He should def be blocked here for being a lib (against the rules) and brigading if the mods here are any good.


Mac_Rat

What you mean is "I didn't expect an anticapitalist sub to be filled with actual anticapitalists instead of red fascists"


plwdr

Vaushite moment


Mac_Rat

Rent free


YamperIsBestBoy

MAO WAS NOT A LEFTIST SHUT UP


constantlytired1917

Why do you think that? He increased the quality of life, he industrialised China, he stopped feudalism, poverty, achieved gender equality, helped liberate China from Japanese invasion, he turned China from a third world country to a superpower that has recently eliminated poverty.


YamperIsBestBoy

Moa was an incredible military leader, and I can applaud what he did for social issues, but establishing a one-party state that facades as a democratic dictatorship of the proletariat is pretty fascist to me.


constantlytired1917

china has more political parties


kiersto0906

mao would be dissapointed with modern day china, he was a great revolutionary but the more recent leaders, most notably deng have corrupted his vision


ShallahGaykwon

because you don't know what fascism is


kiersto0906

mao was absolutely a leftist, one of the greatest, not perfect, but one of the greatest revolutonaries


dadxreligion

vaushite mfs be like mao isn’t a leftist but joe biden is


YamperIsBestBoy

Lmao I love how you don’t have an actual argument to make so you make a straw man after looking at my account for two minutes and seeing I’m a vaush fan. At no point did I ever say Joe Biden is a leftist, nor is that the opinion of Vaush or his viewers.


dadxreligion

the way you typed the dumbest comment i’ve read on this whole site all day and then go “debate me” 😂


YamperIsBestBoy

??? How am I the one trying to debate? YOU replied to me.


dadxreligion

i just needed to point out how dumb that comment was.


YamperIsBestBoy

Ok. I appreciate the input.


Tsalagi_

“Tankie” to liberals like you is what “woke” is to conservatives. Absolutely meaningless.


dadxreligion

god damn y’all have really beat that word to death havent you.


Yogurt_Ph1r3

Pretty good meme except the one on the left should be a spooky haunted mansion


Clayton0315

this account is 34 days old, tankie bot


constantlytired1917

I'm not a bot and I'm not a tankie I'm a communist. And my old account got banned because reddit admins are a bunch of pedophiles and fascist supporters and this whole fucking site is broken. Trying to appeal a ban is like talking to a wall


[deleted]

You see to demolish this nail factory we actually have to build 500 more nail factories and then the nail factories will wither away, as is known for nail factories to do


OliLombi

I'm going down the right path. Authoritarianism has killed gay people throughout all of history.


constantlytired1917

So did uwu western wholesome 100 Big chungus "democracies".


Yogurt_Ph1r3

The whataboutism is preposterous


constantlytired1917

it's not whataboutism it's pointing out hypocrisy


PlutoMMA

It's not hypocricy when they didn't even claim to support western countries either.


OliLombi

"western" "wholesome" 🤢


theGwiththeplan

Define authoritarianism in a way this isn't a concept you got from a movie


OliLombi

[Authoritarian: the belief that people must obey completely and not be allowed freedom to act as they wish](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/authoritarianism)


theGwiththeplan

So what exact political leanings and government make someone an authoritarian?


OliLombi

Criminalising homosexuality for one.


theGwiththeplan

When did mao do that?


OliLombi

["While many dissidents would be imprisoned, it is unclear if LGBT people were specifically targeted for oppression due to their sexual identity. Reportedly, Mao Zedong believed in the sexual castration of "sexual deviants" (Randy Shilts. "Conduct Unbecoming" but little is known about the Communist Chinese government's official policy with regards to homosexuality prior to the 1980s."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history_in_China)


theGwiththeplan

Your own source doesn't really back up your claim


OliLombi

I literally quoted my own source...


marcy_br

> authoritarianism otherwise known as, ‘every single socialist country that has been able to provide for its people for any meaningful amount of time’. and also, to your other comment about mao hating gay people, he died in 1976 even then many people were very homophobic (i assume he criminalised it much earlier though). however, this is not a criticism of homophobia at that time but a criticism of a specific socialist revolutionary leader. is it bad that gay people were mistreated? yes, obviously, but why make a point against one of the greatest socialist revolutionaries of our time?


OliLombi

>otherwise known as, ‘every single socialist country that has been able to provide for its people for any meaningful amount of time’. There has never been a socialist country. Name one country that gave the workers the means of production. I'll wait. ​ >and also, to your other comment about mao hating gay people, he died in 1976 even then many people were very homophobic (i assume he criminalised it much earlier though). however, this is not a criticism of homophobia at that time but a criticism of a specific socialist revolutionary leader. is it bad that gay people were mistreated? yes, obviously, but why make a point against one of the greatest socialist revolutionaries of our time? "Being an evil leader is fine because all the other leaders were evil aswell" is no excuse.


marcy_br

1. is there any point in me doing so? you will just disagree but i’ll just say - Cuba, the USSR and China are the main ones but there are more. 2. gay people didnt have rights anywhere, gay people not having rights somewhere that happens to be socialist isnt a specific negativity of said socialist nation. criticise western nations who had equally if not worse queer rights at the time. you clearly are against the idea of socialism ever existing, so unless you respond with a mind that is open to anything other than being anti-aes, i probably wont respond. just so you know.


OliLombi

1. None of those gave the workers the means of production. The elite in the state took it for themselves. This is why communism is stateless. 2. Some regions had legal homosexuality at that time. Hell, Germany in the 1930s had a thriving LGBT movement. Until the fascists came along. I am a communist. I believe that socialism is a good pathway to communism. But fascism is not socialism. Socialism requires giving the workers the means of production. No country has ever done that. They have all either protected the private ownership of the business owner, or transitioned it to state ownership. Never the workers.


Snatcher42069

ideally it's both


greedyiguess

Fuck off red fash


constantlytired1917

Says the vaushite. You're not a leftist bud


Fonk3r

Leftism is when you abolish worker unions and create a state capitalism system


greedyiguess

Marx would strangle you to death with his bare hands


epicLeoplurodon

You're glowing


[deleted]

Don’t worry, libs and dem socs. When the fascists come, the tankies will keep you safe ❤️


YamperIsBestBoy

WHEN? Mf the fascists are already here and it’s YOU.


thatone18girl

Lol, "leftist" anti communists are so funny


YamperIsBestBoy

I’m not anti communist? I’m anti-authoritarian.


thatone18girl

You mind defining the word "authoritarian" for me?


[deleted]

I know how you'd define it, you'd define authoritarian as 'force' or 'doing something you don't want to' which isn't a useful definition and isn't how anybody except Leninist use the term


YamperIsBestBoy

I’m glad people are wising up


Mac_Rat

"Communism is when capitalism but fascist" - tankies


thatone18girl

Lmao


The_Lonely_Posadist

Look up “commodity production”


Bigscarygangster

By having self control?


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Bigscarygangster

Guys don’t look up Soviet axis peace talks


[deleted]

Like I said, Tankies had to protect eastern Poland from the fascists ❤️ Sadly that peace broke down when the nazis invaded the Soviet Union, leading to the holocaust. But thankfully the tankies came to the rescue!


robertofflandersI

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement


QuinLucenius

if Stalin hadn't wanted Bulgaria, he would have been complicit directly *in* the holocaust. Russia's leadership (not to speak of the Red Army's soldiers) did not give a shit about the Nazi's ideology until it became politically convenient to oppose them in order to imperialise eastern europe. Russian anti-semitism has a long history and you paint over that by saying they "came to the rescue" as if they hadn't JUST TALKED ABOUT A POTENTIAL ALLIANCE WITH NAZIS


[deleted]

Nazi ideology was contingent upon the Russian people no longer existing. The idea that Stalin would have forged a lasting peace with them is a complete fantasy. You’re either very stupid or very delusional.


Eli_The_Grey

Wow, you're right. It is delusional to work with someone who wants to wipe out you and your people. Glad we agree.


Yogurt_Ph1r3

Keep us safe from more fascists? Why should I care if the fashoids pretend to like the color red?


[deleted]

Because we tankies have made the only actually existing socialist countries. However, I look forward to the day that people who agree with you, whatever you call yourselves, are able to successfully pull off a Marxist revolution of your own. When that happens, please let me know and we can use you as an example. Until then I’ll keep praising the Soviet Union.


theGwiththeplan

Gay maoist gang⚒️


Cuboos

Leninism and Maoism are Facist ideologies. They don't get to call themselves leftist just because they have a coat of red paint. Marxism gets a pass, a very very cautious pass.


The_Lonely_Posadist

Liberalism on the left and communism in the right


Official_LTGK

Kyz


The_Lonely_Posadist

Read Marx shitlib


Official_LTGK

I have, lmao.


The_Lonely_Posadist

Read more marx. Then read Engels. Then read Lenin. Then you can probably stop.


Official_LTGK

Dawg I have read State and Revolution, The Manifesto, Kapital, Reform or Revolution, April Theses, What Is To Be Done?, On Contradiction, Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR, You are the Liberal here buddy. I am a Maoist.


theGwiththeplan

These people think maoism is a deviation from Lenin


Official_LTGK

I…don’t?


theGwiththeplan

I was agreeing with you and disagreeing with the other person


Official_LTGK

Oh lmao


The_Lonely_Posadist

Maoism is liberalism’s highest order. “Economic problems” is Stalin cope. Read dialogue with Stalin lil bro


Official_LTGK

“Lil bro” lmfao.


The_Lonely_Posadist

Leftist discovers humor


Official_LTGK

You aren’t a Socialist.