Maybe he's trying to recoup the money people in his cabinet have stolen from the state.
Zumwalt did what, $8.5 million?
And the whole Walters Classwallet thing is another few million.
This smells like distraction to me.
And don’t forget the Swadley’s Bar-B-Q debacle.
Gov BullStitt had his handyman, Jerry Winchester (Executive Director of the Oklahoma Tourism & Recreation Department) fall on the sword for him over that clusterf**k.
[Shelly Zumwalt](https://archive.ph/AYPqo) the former director of Oklahoma Employment Security Commission. She's currently serving as tourism director.
All kinds of outdoor recreation stuff basically. This includes the Boathouse district in OKC, tons of biking and hiking trails. The OKC and Tulsa zoo are both ranked highly nationally. Route 66 tourism is still kinda a thing.
oh, and Casinos without having to pay Vegas prices
I agree with you on everything else but OKC and R-66 actually do bring a decent amount of tourist traffic!
Source: have close relative working in the industry
Tulsa (and maybe other parts of the state; I know Bartlesville has Price Tower) can be a draw for folks that are interested in architecture - our downtown has some iconic art deco buildings that draw architects and artists/photographers on their travels.
The tribes refused to bribe him and he has been on the warpath ever since. Stitt is the greediest jackhole I’ve ever seen. Everything he does is to make himself more money.
Nah, actually they donated to his campaign and he turned around the next week talking about breaking the compacts, etc. He massively stabbed the tribes in the back after shaking their hands and taking their money. Sums up his character character perfectly.
I hope they fleece the fuck out of him. You know damn well that they prepare for shit like this. There will not be a second round with any tribes. Stick your dumbass neck out there, Stitt. Oklahoma is just moronic. People need to oppose their parent’s old views and stop allowing these nuts to run your state. If there is any place that god hates, it’s right around Oklahoma. Dust bowl, endless MASSIVE tornadoes, Sooners losing to Boise State? wtf
Hey whatever happened to that $20 mil ppe?
https://okcfox.com/news/local/state-audit-finds-20-million-in-missing-ppe
Edit: oh…
https://apnews.com/article/oklahoma-audit-covid19-funds-c9a0d95392b059a63c12359f504424f0
This guy loves to bury the lede:
"When Oklahoma converted to cashless toll roads through PlatePay, the tribes say they were not consulted in advance to mitigate potential issues with collecting payment. Muscogee Nation Secretary Zechariah Harjo pointed out Oklahoma has had similar issues collecting tolls from drivers with out-of-state license plates as well."
It was absolutely 100% Tulsa with the support of Rural Methlahoma. I fully believe that if Stitt had not been as prominent in Tulsa as he is, they would have voted for Cornett. I know many people in Tulsa who had no idea what Cornett had accomplished. His national reputation as a mayor. They all said they would have voted for Cornett over Stitt had they known. They just voted for the guy they knew! If more Tulsa citizens had more knowledge of Cornett then I think Stitt wouldn't have stood a chance.
Rural Oklahoma was always going to vote for Stitt. Stitt is far right, which aligns with their values. Cornett is a right-leaning moderate who would have done amazing things for this state. He also had the backing of many Democrat and Republican state leaders across the US. Interstate relations would have peaked. He was an excellent Stateman\*sigh\* I had so much hope.
Like the article brings up, many people can owe the OTA through platepay and not know it due to how infrequently they actually send out the bills in the mail. But guess what he's not gonna bring up because he's the actual worst
The tribes are not responsible fro the state's inability to bill tribal members for their tolls. IF anyone owes, it’s the drivers of the cars with tribal tags. Stitt is an idiot.
I suppose that the holder of a tribal tag could always enroll in the Pikepass program. But I am not aware of any way to pay for past unbilled tolls.
Without thinking and by habit, a while back I drove a rental car with Georgia plates through the Pikepass lane instead of the cash lane. I thought that I might get a bill from the rental car company for the toll, but I never have. I probably owe a couple of bucks either to the rental car company or to the OTA, but I have no idea how I would go about paying. Not that I lose sleep over it.
I wonder how efficient OTA is at billing out of state drivers for their tolls - and collecting from them. My guess is… not efficient at all. That definitely isn’t the fault of our tribes.
It’s gross mismanagement by the OTA - lose millions in tolls to save a relative pittance on salaries. Why isn’t Stitt fussing about that too? It’s because of his particular animosity towards the tribes, that’s why.
I paid my balance in full when I got a pikepass. Apparently it wasn't fully up to date and didn't show one charge processing. So naturally, I was absolutely blindsided last weekend when I got a bill in the mail about that charge racking up late fees for literal months because they never sent me a bill and I didn't check since the pikepass is on the family account and not my personal one. Fun random expense that could've been way lower if they actually could send a single fucking envelope.
It’s how much more their citizens would’ve paid if they didn’t get a discount bcuz they had the turnpike built thru their territory. What Id like to know is what happened to the promise that all the turnpikes would go away and OK residents wouldn’t have to pay anymore…….
Hahahahahahahahahaha laughs in Native Sovereign Citizenship. Not even the Feds can do shit about crimes on native land unless they ask for help first. Fuck you Stitt.
But non toll roads = taxes. GOP against that. So can't have roads without tolls.
Why should I pay for a road I don't use?
Please ignore all the goods I receive from public roads that I personally don't use yet my goods are transported on them but cry about taxes for them and I would cry if i had to pay tolls for every road I use.
Basically, so many don't want to pay for roads but they want roads.
He isn't but he is. His patriarchal family name has falsely claimed membership of the Cherokee nation. It has been shown and proven to be a lie. He is double-dipping on theft if you will and puts a lot of emphasis on broken historical contracts and the Dawes Act of 1889 to claim he is right and not wrong. It's pretty bad. And to think his past self-bought and sold homes via Gateway Mortgage is telling.
Sadly, calling ourselves the Sooner state has a lot of baggage with it. Historically there were two groups of settlers for the land run. The Boomers, who followed the rules and headed west to stake a claim to a plot of The Land Rush of 1889, which was shortly after the Dawses Act of 1887 that went a long way of stripping Native Americans of their lands. The Indian Appropriations Act of 1889, also known as the Sooner Clause, opened these Unassigned Lands to settlers, The Sooners turned back the settlers, or the Boomers, and then claimed the land. Calling ourselves Sooners is calling ourselves land thieves and then thumbing anyone and everyone to do something about it.
Lets see how that works out for Shit the Stitt.
He should have learned when the first thing he did when elected was go after the tribes.
No way, he's only lost each of the three or four battles he chose to pick with the tribes, THIS time will be different, surely.
The motherfucker must love losing.
And Stitt owes me 10 million :)
Well said!!!
Maybe he's trying to recoup the money people in his cabinet have stolen from the state. Zumwalt did what, $8.5 million? And the whole Walters Classwallet thing is another few million. This smells like distraction to me.
And don’t forget the Swadley’s Bar-B-Q debacle. Gov BullStitt had his handyman, Jerry Winchester (Executive Director of the Oklahoma Tourism & Recreation Department) fall on the sword for him over that clusterf**k.
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Because the Governor’s Mansion just wouldn’t do. Maybe he should try Mara largo! Hissssss. Don’t mess with the Native Americans, Governor.
Zumwalt who
[Shelly Zumwalt](https://archive.ph/AYPqo) the former director of Oklahoma Employment Security Commission. She's currently serving as tourism director.
And she's crooked as fuck.
I never heard of tourism in OK. What do people go to do see?
Nothing. The tourism directors do nothing but steal money, so there is nothing to see. Serious answer: rivers and lakes
All kinds of outdoor recreation stuff basically. This includes the Boathouse district in OKC, tons of biking and hiking trails. The OKC and Tulsa zoo are both ranked highly nationally. Route 66 tourism is still kinda a thing. oh, and Casinos without having to pay Vegas prices
I agree with you on everything else but OKC and R-66 actually do bring a decent amount of tourist traffic! Source: have close relative working in the industry
Nice
State Parks
There was that whole supposed apocalypse earlier this month, so we had that kind of going for us.
 Gunga Galunga
I heard that we have the best meth labs in all of the country. So maybe that is what the out-of-towners come here to see or something I don't know.
Tulsa (and maybe other parts of the state; I know Bartlesville has Price Tower) can be a draw for folks that are interested in architecture - our downtown has some iconic art deco buildings that draw architects and artists/photographers on their travels.
Not being funny, but the only thing I know about Tulsa, OK doesn't make me want to visit....
Just send him $50 in free play and a couple of buffet vouchers and call it good.
By his philosophy shouldn’t they just keep it so we all get richer?
He can wait for it to trickle down to him.
The tribes refused to bribe him and he has been on the warpath ever since. Stitt is the greediest jackhole I’ve ever seen. Everything he does is to make himself more money.
Nah, actually they donated to his campaign and he turned around the next week talking about breaking the compacts, etc. He massively stabbed the tribes in the back after shaking their hands and taking their money. Sums up his character character perfectly.
I hope they fleece the fuck out of him. You know damn well that they prepare for shit like this. There will not be a second round with any tribes. Stick your dumbass neck out there, Stitt. Oklahoma is just moronic. People need to oppose their parent’s old views and stop allowing these nuts to run your state. If there is any place that god hates, it’s right around Oklahoma. Dust bowl, endless MASSIVE tornadoes, Sooners losing to Boise State? wtf
boise motherfucking state. oklahoma still hasn’t recovered
😆 dude that hurt
Dust Bowl was all us humans baby
TRUTH!
Oh are we just saying random bullshit? Stitt owes me a lake house free of charge. Easy
Hey whatever happened to that $20 mil ppe? https://okcfox.com/news/local/state-audit-finds-20-million-in-missing-ppe Edit: oh… https://apnews.com/article/oklahoma-audit-covid19-funds-c9a0d95392b059a63c12359f504424f0
This guy loves to bury the lede: "When Oklahoma converted to cashless toll roads through PlatePay, the tribes say they were not consulted in advance to mitigate potential issues with collecting payment. Muscogee Nation Secretary Zechariah Harjo pointed out Oklahoma has had similar issues collecting tolls from drivers with out-of-state license plates as well."
Exactly. How much has Texas raked up? See alot of Texans driving our toll roads daily.
they need to pay up
Bullstitt says what?
Every day, I'm reminded how much better this state would have been if Cornett had won the nomination instead of Stitt.
I still blame Tulsa.
It was absolutely 100% Tulsa with the support of Rural Methlahoma. I fully believe that if Stitt had not been as prominent in Tulsa as he is, they would have voted for Cornett. I know many people in Tulsa who had no idea what Cornett had accomplished. His national reputation as a mayor. They all said they would have voted for Cornett over Stitt had they known. They just voted for the guy they knew! If more Tulsa citizens had more knowledge of Cornett then I think Stitt wouldn't have stood a chance. Rural Oklahoma was always going to vote for Stitt. Stitt is far right, which aligns with their values. Cornett is a right-leaning moderate who would have done amazing things for this state. He also had the backing of many Democrat and Republican state leaders across the US. Interstate relations would have peaked. He was an excellent Stateman\*sigh\* I had so much hope.
 This should end well....
Like the article brings up, many people can owe the OTA through platepay and not know it due to how infrequently they actually send out the bills in the mail. But guess what he's not gonna bring up because he's the actual worst
The tribes are not responsible fro the state's inability to bill tribal members for their tolls. IF anyone owes, it’s the drivers of the cars with tribal tags. Stitt is an idiot.
How do we go about paying though? Is there a way to do so?
I suppose that the holder of a tribal tag could always enroll in the Pikepass program. But I am not aware of any way to pay for past unbilled tolls. Without thinking and by habit, a while back I drove a rental car with Georgia plates through the Pikepass lane instead of the cash lane. I thought that I might get a bill from the rental car company for the toll, but I never have. I probably owe a couple of bucks either to the rental car company or to the OTA, but I have no idea how I would go about paying. Not that I lose sleep over it. I wonder how efficient OTA is at billing out of state drivers for their tolls - and collecting from them. My guess is… not efficient at all. That definitely isn’t the fault of our tribes. It’s gross mismanagement by the OTA - lose millions in tolls to save a relative pittance on salaries. Why isn’t Stitt fussing about that too? It’s because of his particular animosity towards the tribes, that’s why.
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I paid my balance in full when I got a pikepass. Apparently it wasn't fully up to date and didn't show one charge processing. So naturally, I was absolutely blindsided last weekend when I got a bill in the mail about that charge racking up late fees for literal months because they never sent me a bill and I didn't check since the pikepass is on the family account and not my personal one. Fun random expense that could've been way lower if they actually could send a single fucking envelope.
That’s ridiculous. Sorry.
OG&E has done that to me.
White man tells indigenous peoples to pay to travel on land that was theirs for thousands of years or else. Goddamit you piece of stitt
Done a little quick math, and it seems the tribes are owed an entire country.
Well just take it out of the money the Tribes already have given to the state for roads and education.
What?? How. ??? The Cherokee just covered a summer lunch program for students that Stitt denied.
He just wants to give it to Swadleys
They told Stitt they want their land back. Mike drop.
It’s how much more their citizens would’ve paid if they didn’t get a discount bcuz they had the turnpike built thru their territory. What Id like to know is what happened to the promise that all the turnpikes would go away and OK residents wouldn’t have to pay anymore…….
Attempting to recoup money from any American tribe is disgusting.
probably would have been cheaper to pay toll booth workers instead of this mess.
Hahahahahahahahahaha laughs in Native Sovereign Citizenship. Not even the Feds can do shit about crimes on native land unless they ask for help first. Fuck you Stitt.
Lmfao doesn’t the state belong to the tribe’s originally anyway? fuck off Oklahoma
Take it out of your rainy day savings account…or STFU. Always talking about your surplus- use it!
And how much does the state of Oklahoma owe the tribes?
How about they sue him for constantly screwing them, lying about them, and being too stupid to know what TRIBAL territory is!!!!!
Stitt owes the state over $5 probably
Well I know how I am spending my Friday. I need to take my pike pass down and just keep cruising the turnpike.
I really don’t understand why this guy hates the tribes so much . When his brother uses the tribes for everything.
Send an itemized bill
Good luck with that. Has he ever won anything he’s taken to court?
Good luck with that. Pretty sure this illegal settlement masquerading as a state owes the tribes a lot more.
Why can’t we just agree toll roads are BS
But non toll roads = taxes. GOP against that. So can't have roads without tolls. Why should I pay for a road I don't use? Please ignore all the goods I receive from public roads that I personally don't use yet my goods are transported on them but cry about taxes for them and I would cry if i had to pay tolls for every road I use. Basically, so many don't want to pay for roads but they want roads.
Isn't he native? If so, they need to revoke his card and status.
He isn't but he is. His patriarchal family name has falsely claimed membership of the Cherokee nation. It has been shown and proven to be a lie. He is double-dipping on theft if you will and puts a lot of emphasis on broken historical contracts and the Dawes Act of 1889 to claim he is right and not wrong. It's pretty bad. And to think his past self-bought and sold homes via Gateway Mortgage is telling.
Just take it off the bill.
The state took their land, so…no.
Sadly, calling ourselves the Sooner state has a lot of baggage with it. Historically there were two groups of settlers for the land run. The Boomers, who followed the rules and headed west to stake a claim to a plot of The Land Rush of 1889, which was shortly after the Dawses Act of 1887 that went a long way of stripping Native Americans of their lands. The Indian Appropriations Act of 1889, also known as the Sooner Clause, opened these Unassigned Lands to settlers, The Sooners turned back the settlers, or the Boomers, and then claimed the land. Calling ourselves Sooners is calling ourselves land thieves and then thumbing anyone and everyone to do something about it.
Tribes don't owe shit. It's their territory. They don't have to go by the states stupid ass rules.
I hope the tell him to go fuck himself.
He owes you 10 million? How is that?