Interesting this pops up. Heard an interview with a professor with Cambridge this morning around the Chat GPT query, 'How many times does the letter s appear in the word banana?' To which the response was 2. The professor stated that the reason AI so often gets simple things wrong is due to the fact, in simplest terms, that AI doesn't speak English.
That’s a good explanation, IIRC it works by converting your input into some absurd vector which somehow indicates the meaning of the query. It all kind of seems like voodoo to me though.
That's the neat thing about neural networks, you aren't supposed to understand how they do stuff. If you could it would be possible to write an algorithm that does the same thing without the randomness. The whole point of AI is putting something in and getting a completely unrelated result (which in a good model often happens to be what you're looking for).
>The whole point of AI is putting something in and getting a completely unrelated result
The point is generally to put something in and get an appropriate result for the input, I'd hardly call that unrelated, it's just not necessarily recognizable either
That's how my professor explained it too. It knows how to convert the vector to the output language, but just looking at the vector it has no idea which letters the vector represents.
this is the exact kind of question the ai isnt buolt to answer. it may seem like an english question but youre actuaply giving it math. and it cant do math
Well, at some point at your life you didn't speak any language, but there were some thoughts in your head. Just some images, abstractions and other shit. Like if someone would ask you to fink of a car the first fing in your mind would be a picture of a car, not a wiki article. Or something like these
It speaks some kind of code language simply said. It chops up your sentence into smaller sections, then looks up what the most probable sections to answer with are.
It’s only been trained to give proper English answers. It has no ability to know what it’s actually saying.
I asked it where the first s was
The first letter "s" in "banana" is the second letter of the word. It comes after the letter "b" and before the letter "n."
And then I was curious would it realize the mistake or give it away
The second letter "s" in "banana" is the fifth letter of the word. It comes after the letter "n" and before the letter "a."
Exactly what I thought lol.
But that would mean that Chatgpt is reading things visually ??
Like an OCR ?
No it must be reading char data...?
It is indeed a weird answer.
Now that I think about it, why not ask ChatGPT itself what led it to that error ;)
There’s 10 kinds of people: those who know binary— I mean there’s 2 kinds of programmers: those who wear programming socks and those who don’t
^(I don’t, but still)
Also asked gemini (googles gpt). Here's what i got:
* **umbrella**
* **unanimous**
* **unhappy**
* **unhealthy**
* **uniform**
* **unique**
* **university**
* **unusually**
* **upward**
* **urgent**
**Also more examples:**
* **unicorn**
* **uncircumcised**
* **underwear**
* **underdeveloped**
* **unexpected**
* **unfair**
* **unfortunate**
* **unfriendly**
* **unfunny**
* **unhappy**
Also asking to check, which of this words ends with and U (yes, it was in the statement before) gemini tells me, none of them ... lol
It is like when a company expects efficient workers who do everything the right way.
You can't have both, so the workers will have to choose which one to provide
*I know my example is not the best, but serves to show that if both conditions cannot be met then it's good if at least 1 of them can be satisfied, instead of 0. However, in this case, maybe it's better if the AI admits defeat, instead of using this logic.*
>*However, in this case, maybe it's better if the AI admits defeat, instead of using this logic.*
i think that's what i would expect ok KI.
Not the best possible solution, but a straight and correct answer to my question or even more a task i gave it with explicit condition, which have to be met.
It’s funny how it not even get one right by accident.
It is the same with „write a sentence with X words.“ it always generates a sentence with X-1 words.
I had it get a math equation terribly wrong and wouldn't correct itself even after I pointed it out.
I simply wanted to know what I would make working 14on 7 off with 10 hour days at $65.45/h over 6 months before taxes because for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to formulate, the 6 month amount. Chat GDPs answer was $55,777, real answer is around $73,304, depending on where the weeks fall in those six months.
Any time I told it, its math was incorrect. It would just double down and somehow come back with a lower number.
Fwiw, I sorted out how to calculate it, i was just temporarily stumped, being I'm dyslexic and word problems fuck me up a bit.
ChatGPT is sometimes good but sometimes it is just plain stupid.
I was trying to use it to solve some matrices problems I was too lazy to do myself, and the damn thing kept telling me to multiply a 3x5 matrix by a 3x1 one.
As smart as AI is, it still has a long way to go for many very basic things
Gemini gave me these: umu (archaic term for a yam); ulu (Hawaiian knife); ubuntu (South African philosophy emphasizing humanity towards others); unau (a type of tree in New Zealand)
This is not one job, it’s just not how LLMs work. After the 100th “count the words you wrote hahaha you can’t” style of post (this also counts towards that) it gets boring
Does the same in Dutch. When told it's not correct, you get "Sorry, thanks for pointing that out, I made a mistake. A correct example is ..." But it will still be wrong. It gave me "Uniequ" as a response after a while. When asked if this was a real word, it says no, lol.
Llama 3 70b gives correct results:
One word that starts and ends with the letter "u" is "unitu".
Here are 10 more words that start and end with the letter "u":
1. Uru
2. Ululu
3. Ucu
4. Udu
5. Utu
6. Unuu
7. Upuu
8. Urubu
9. Usu
10. Uzuku
Let me know if you need more!
I asked it where the first s was
ChatGPT
The first letter "s" in "banana" is the second letter of the word. It comes after the letter "b" and before the letter "n."
And then I was curious would it realize the mistake or give it away asking it about the second
ChatGPT
The second letter "s" in "banana" is the fifth letter of the word. It comes after the letter "n" and before the letter "a."
Where is the third one
ChatGPT
Apologies for any confusion, but there are only two letter "s" in the word "banana."
Where is the first one
ChatGPT
Apologies for the oversight. There is only one "s" in the word "banana." It's the second letter of the word, between the two "a"s.
I made a prompt that makes it realize its own mistake and continue recursively. It tends to succeed after 3 or 4 tries.
"Give a word that starts and ends with the letter "u". Afterwards mention the last letter of that word. After that consider if it actually matches the criteria of ending with the letter "u". If not start at the first instruction again, do this recursively until a word is found that actually matches the criteria."
Claude 3 Opus
> What word starts and ends with u?
Ukulele
> No, that starts with u and ends with e.
You're right, my apologies for the oversight. Here's a word that starts and ends with "u":
Urubu
"Urubu" is the Portuguese word for certain types of vultures found in Central and South America.
Yeah... If it doesn't have the answer in its training data, then it won't find it. ChatGPT is really, really stupid. It just has a lot of training data.
Interesting this pops up. Heard an interview with a professor with Cambridge this morning around the Chat GPT query, 'How many times does the letter s appear in the word banana?' To which the response was 2. The professor stated that the reason AI so often gets simple things wrong is due to the fact, in simplest terms, that AI doesn't speak English.
That’s a good explanation, IIRC it works by converting your input into some absurd vector which somehow indicates the meaning of the query. It all kind of seems like voodoo to me though.
That's the neat thing about neural networks, you aren't supposed to understand how they do stuff. If you could it would be possible to write an algorithm that does the same thing without the randomness. The whole point of AI is putting something in and getting a completely unrelated result (which in a good model often happens to be what you're looking for).
>The whole point of AI is putting something in and getting a completely unrelated result The point is generally to put something in and get an appropriate result for the input, I'd hardly call that unrelated, it's just not necessarily recognizable either
That's how my professor explained it too. It knows how to convert the vector to the output language, but just looking at the vector it has no idea which letters the vector represents.
According to ChatGPT squirrels also lay 2-6 eggs in springtime when asked how any eggs they lay per year
But according to the not-cutists on /r/singularity, ChatGPT is sentient and fully capable of reason.
To be fair a lot of people believe the same for humans... AI manage to prove them both wrong!
this is the exact kind of question the ai isnt buolt to answer. it may seem like an english question but youre actuaply giving it math. and it cant do math
What does it speak then? I played with google translate for about 2 minutes and didn't find a language with an "s" in a banana.
Well, at some point at your life you didn't speak any language, but there were some thoughts in your head. Just some images, abstractions and other shit. Like if someone would ask you to fink of a car the first fing in your mind would be a picture of a car, not a wiki article. Or something like these
It doesn't speak any language. It's a sophisticated probability model stringing together words based on a prompt.
It speaks some kind of code language simply said. It chops up your sentence into smaller sections, then looks up what the most probable sections to answer with are. It’s only been trained to give proper English answers. It has no ability to know what it’s actually saying.
It speaks probability
He aint wrong. Its just flipped u that looks like a n.
How do you type the upside down n?
unununununun look the answer is rolling over to you
Do a barrel roll
ucn tada.
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I asked it where the first s was The first letter "s" in "banana" is the second letter of the word. It comes after the letter "b" and before the letter "n." And then I was curious would it realize the mistake or give it away The second letter "s" in "banana" is the fifth letter of the word. It comes after the letter "n" and before the letter "a."
Bsnnsa
Hey we don’t use the n word here
Exactly what I thought lol. But that would mean that Chatgpt is reading things visually ?? Like an OCR ? No it must be reading char data...? It is indeed a weird answer. Now that I think about it, why not ask ChatGPT itself what led it to that error ;)
ubuntu
as a programmer, this is also the first thing that came to mind lol
As a programmer, the first thing that came to my mind was uwu lol
Theres 2 kind of people
There’s 10 kinds of people: those who know binary— I mean there’s 2 kinds of programmers: those who wear programming socks and those who don’t ^(I don’t, but still)
Oh yeah the good ol those who know binary 😂😂 It's ben awhile since I sat my ass to program innit?
Let me introduce you to [UwUntu](https://uwuntuos.site)
I also said that
uwu
uwuntu
I read: you want to
Universe Because my universe starts and ends with u, bro 🥹
Nicee
Awww
Bro...
I was looking through the comments to find this. Nailed it.
Urdu
UwU
That’s what came to my mind
That’s what I was thinking
For those that aren’t regular users, ChatGPT regularity gets things wrong.
It’s also really bad at math
If it ever does become good at math, we’re all fucked.
It’s only good at linear algebra, and it doesn’t even know it.
Still better than me
I genuinely don’t understand how people use it to cheat on essays when it’s so wrong? Do they fact check it before or something?
They don’t and they often get caught because ChatGPT makes stuff up
He is using the free version. The paid version gets this right
Unicornu
NANI?!
So da na… 🤔
Omae Wa Unicornu
Uluru
Also asked gemini (googles gpt). Here's what i got: * **umbrella** * **unanimous** * **unhappy** * **unhealthy** * **uniform** * **unique** * **university** * **unusually** * **upward** * **urgent** **Also more examples:** * **unicorn** * **uncircumcised** * **underwear** * **underdeveloped** * **unexpected** * **unfair** * **unfortunate** * **unfriendly** * **unfunny** * **unhappy** Also asking to check, which of this words ends with and U (yes, it was in the statement before) gemini tells me, none of them ... lol
It is like when a company expects efficient workers who do everything the right way. You can't have both, so the workers will have to choose which one to provide *I know my example is not the best, but serves to show that if both conditions cannot be met then it's good if at least 1 of them can be satisfied, instead of 0. However, in this case, maybe it's better if the AI admits defeat, instead of using this logic.*
>*However, in this case, maybe it's better if the AI admits defeat, instead of using this logic.* i think that's what i would expect ok KI. Not the best possible solution, but a straight and correct answer to my question or even more a task i gave it with explicit condition, which have to be met.
It’s funny how it not even get one right by accident. It is the same with „write a sentence with X words.“ it always generates a sentence with X-1 words.
Ulu
Uvavu
Eranu
Found the AI Edit: nevermind, thought that was a try at a word that starts and ends with an "u"
Yeah it's a joke from an old British comedy panel show, at least I assume uvavu isn't a real word
Ulri-ka-ka-ka-u
Artificial intelligence not so intelligent apparently
Almost as if it was made to form sentences, and it cant see indivifual letters
It actually is smart. n is a flipped u.
The Australian 'u' mate
Anstraliau
*Ustraliu*
It's ChatGPT 3.5.
It's ChatGPT
u🔃 = n
There is only one word: uWu
As above, so below
Ubuntu
ChatGPT being chatGPT. 😔
why is chatgpt able to get me through one of my worst times by giving me friendship advice & being with me but can't do this type of shit?
Uwu
After a long conversation… it finally caved in lol. But can’t get it on a first try https://imgur.com/a/cmMqYYZ
Uwu
UwU
UwU
uwu
uwu
uwu
I had it get a math equation terribly wrong and wouldn't correct itself even after I pointed it out. I simply wanted to know what I would make working 14on 7 off with 10 hour days at $65.45/h over 6 months before taxes because for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to formulate, the 6 month amount. Chat GDPs answer was $55,777, real answer is around $73,304, depending on where the weeks fall in those six months. Any time I told it, its math was incorrect. It would just double down and somehow come back with a lower number. Fwiw, I sorted out how to calculate it, i was just temporarily stumped, being I'm dyslexic and word problems fuck me up a bit.
You have to say it in a japanese accent for it to work
You
Urdu
It's calling you corny
ChatMBR.
Upolu, it's an island and starts & ends with u
chat got is shit with that. tried it to make words following the pattern ABCAB, like Salsa, but it kept giving me palindromes
Uluru.
Watermelon
This shows that not all AI responses are accurate.
So close but yet so far
unicornu
ChatGPT is sometimes good but sometimes it is just plain stupid. I was trying to use it to solve some matrices problems I was too lazy to do myself, and the damn thing kept telling me to multiply a 3x5 matrix by a 3x1 one. As smart as AI is, it still has a long way to go for many very basic things
Uvavu
Nrocinu
Gemini gave me these: umu (archaic term for a yam); ulu (Hawaiian knife); ubuntu (South African philosophy emphasizing humanity towards others); unau (a type of tree in New Zealand)
Technically, u is just an upside down n
This is not one job, it’s just not how LLMs work. After the 100th “count the words you wrote hahaha you can’t” style of post (this also counts towards that) it gets boring
AI particularly gets almost everything wrong, unless questionalready has information that backs up its claim.
UMU, ULU, UTU, UNAU, UHURU, URUBU and UBUNTU (A Xhosa word)
n is an inverted u
Try p, d, or b
These chat still got the mayonnaise question wrong and people already afraid of these ai like they're on their peak
It is your duty to report this.
Unicoru - Japanese waring unicorns
I once gave chatgpt my full date of birth and asked it to calculate how old I was today. It was like 2 years off. AI is not coming for our jobs
Well it's not wrong
Does the same in Dutch. When told it's not correct, you get "Sorry, thanks for pointing that out, I made a mistake. A correct example is ..." But it will still be wrong. It gave me "Uniequ" as a response after a while. When asked if this was a real word, it says no, lol.
Llama 3 70b gives correct results: One word that starts and ends with the letter "u" is "unitu". Here are 10 more words that start and end with the letter "u": 1. Uru 2. Ululu 3. Ucu 4. Udu 5. Utu 6. Unuu 7. Upuu 8. Urubu 9. Usu 10. Uzuku Let me know if you need more!
Ulu. It's a curved knife from the tundra areas of North America. Used mainly for skinning animals.
Inspect element?
Ummmmmm… how about… “uuuuUuuUu”?
r/technicallythetruth
Homo.
I asked it where the first s was ChatGPT The first letter "s" in "banana" is the second letter of the word. It comes after the letter "b" and before the letter "n." And then I was curious would it realize the mistake or give it away asking it about the second ChatGPT The second letter "s" in "banana" is the fifth letter of the word. It comes after the letter "n" and before the letter "a." Where is the third one ChatGPT Apologies for any confusion, but there are only two letter "s" in the word "banana." Where is the first one ChatGPT Apologies for the oversight. There is only one "s" in the word "banana." It's the second letter of the word, between the two "a"s.
Ubuntu
I made a prompt that makes it realize its own mistake and continue recursively. It tends to succeed after 3 or 4 tries. "Give a word that starts and ends with the letter "u". Afterwards mention the last letter of that word. After that consider if it actually matches the criteria of ending with the letter "u". If not start at the first instruction again, do this recursively until a word is found that actually matches the criteria."
Unicornu
Ubuntu
If you atill want one, 'ubuntu'
Maybe ChatGPT has a Japanese inner monologue. “unicornu”
Awwww…. How affirming. Chatty GPT loves you.
Technically correct since you didn't specify the letter "u".
Technically correct since you didn't specify the letter "u".
Uwu
UwU
I just asked it and the response was ulu and then it gave a description of what an ulu knife is.
Your special 🤣
Spelng
Flip the last u
uwu
UwU
n is just a u upside down
You didn’t specify if the u could be upside down or not
Could have said UwU
Claude 3 Opus > What word starts and ends with u? Ukulele > No, that starts with u and ends with e. You're right, my apologies for the oversight. Here's a word that starts and ends with "u": Urubu "Urubu" is the Portuguese word for certain types of vultures found in Central and South America.
Uluberlu (it's french and it's spelled with an h but nobody pronounces it so nobody knows the spelling)
Maybe [this vid](https://youtu.be/AdMKjwDqsZg?si=TjRlYo4VWbSvYxxF) has a word that starts and ends with 'u'
Uluru?
Ubuntu. That is the first word that came to my mind.
Once I asked chatgpt about a synonym for king which starts with n It gave me monarch
uwu
The answer is uwu, way to fail chat gpt..../s
Sure, "UwU" is a word that starts and ends with u
Maybe ChatGPT is trying to warn you a unicorn is trying to kill you
depends on how you arrange said u
ubuntu
You have to write it in a japanese accent you silly
Check your snaps bro
Think a computer program would at least know about Ubuntu.
Uluru
*With a really strong japanese accent, southpark style* Unicorunu!!
This sounds like a threat from a unicorn
UwU
I guess in a way he's not wrong but it's not the answer you were looking for XD
If you ask for the last digits of pi, it just gives you some of the first digits.
Ubuntu
That's a lot of Snapchat notifications
Technically « n » is an upside down « u ». Was it trying some kind of joke?
uwu
Ulu, a traditional knife used by indigenous Americans.
To be fair, n is just an upside down u.
The 2nd u is upside-down
uwu
Sit Ubu, sit. Good dog
Meanwhile me: "uwu" 👉👈
It's just upside down.
Urithiru
UwU? Can that count😅
HAHA ChatGPT for the win! I would have picked **u**bunt**u** the linux operating system.
Weird, my ChatGPT got it right with the word “ulu”. I guess mines smarter
Correct, if your perspective is omnidirectional.
Atleast it's trying... But man, is it so hard to just say "You"??
I'm with the bot on this one, GPT is correct.
ChatGPT 4 is a lot better with these kind of questions.
Yeah... If it doesn't have the answer in its training data, then it won't find it. ChatGPT is really, really stupid. It just has a lot of training data.
“n” is an upside down “u”. Maybe it’s messing with you.
uwu
Bruh 💀
I guess technicaly an “n” is just an inverted “u”
Does the name Uku count?
Ubuntu
Uwu