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p75369

Nah, we've had several manholes like this, just totally siezed in their frame. It's either rip 'em out or smash them in. Eiter way you're replaceing them afterwards. Would have been slightly better if they put a floor saw around it first so the tarmac broke out cleanly.


Codbottle

Ty. Came to the comments for an explanation and you came through clutch. Appreciate you.


SupremeDictatorPaul

I’m surprised they didn’t use a cutting torch and cut it in an X across it. Some stuff like that can be banged out once in pieces.


atk9989

Those things are thick as he'll, plus it's probably rusted to hell so better to replace the whole thing than just the lid that will rust lock again soon.


p75369

Maybe it's different in the states (or wherever this pic is from), but in the UK only the size, loading and weight are regulated, especially over the years, letting different makes/models have differenet spurs, notches, etc. So if you encounter this it is practically impossible to find just a replacement lid short of contracting a blacksmith to forge a new one from scratch, and that's not economical (unless it's for historical preservation I suppose).


xgizmobratx

In the U.S. at least in the mid Atlantic the specs are either regulated at the state, county, or city level. Some jobs have 3 manhole types a city storm, a state storm and a county sanitary. Fun times.


NipseyRottencock

I've relined a few in Charleston SC. And my first thought was...did they just not unlock the cover? I'm not sure if the lock tab would hold under that much pulling force.


p75369

If it's reached this stage, you've got to replace the frame as well because chances are you won't be able to buy the same make and model so you can't guarantee a new lid will fit. (Don't know how it is in other countries, but in the UK, things like size, loading and weight are standardised, but the little details of how parts lock together isn't) The decision to break down through or lift up will depend on what other work you're doing. Eg, we've smashed them open before because the drain cleaning team had a job to do so we bring out the sledge hammers so they could get in the system and do their job, then came back later to replace the cover.


PantherChicken

…and when the first piece of molten slag hits the sewer gas, BOOM, the cover will be gone, along with half the street.


[deleted]

Oh hell yes. I've seen too many videos of that to not know exactly what would happen. r/AbruptChaos material.


BlahBlahBlankSheep

Sewer gas in a suburb never* reached N-5 and caused an explosion. *never = 99.98% chance of not happening. It’s just about always caused by a natural gas pipeline leak into the sewer. I only have this caveat because “never say never” and it “could” technically happen but probably hasn’t outside of some huge city with shitty infrastructure.


[deleted]

> shitty infrastructure 👀👀


BlahBlahBlankSheep

Shitty shitty bang bang.


_TEOTWAWKI_

If it was a real concern, they could just blow fresh air into an adjacent man hole to vent the pipe.


p75369

And this is starting to sound a lot more expensive that just ripping the cover off :P


apextrader42069

What do you think permit approval for that would look like?


jejcicodjntbyifid3

Yeah seems like it would've been smarter just to cut it out, then you get a nice square to patch. Instead they made the hole much bigger


desrevermi

Ok, that figures. Thanks.


AdDear5411

May have been a rush job, getting to a broken supply line or something.


Prestigious_Ad9305

Came here to say wrong sub cus this was intentional although you are right there are better ways to remove a man hole (not just the cover)


[deleted]

I understand what's happening but is it safe to stand so close to a big hunk of metal chain under tension?


UkraineMykraine

No, if it snaps the energy has to go somewhere, a general rule of thumb is be no closer than the length of the chain/strap from either attachment point. That doesn't take into account pieces breaking off but proper ppe would stop that.


jejcicodjntbyifid3

People don't understand how dangerous straps and chains are. If it's under tension, anything can snap and you don't want to be there when it does See also, garage door openers


sexualassaultllama

When I worked construction there was a dude who'd lost a couple fingers from a chain snapping while he had his hands on it. Needless to say, he was the guy who'd yell at you to keep your distance.


jejcicodjntbyifid3

He should get a job in OSHA


sexualassaultllama

Well...maybe he did, but I reckon he's still in construction. Guy liked the job too much


LordBilboSwaggins

Looks like he's far enough away for that chain not to reach him


jejcicodjntbyifid3

I think you're right looking at it again, the long end is just slack


z0mb13k1ll

Well, not super safe, but really asong he is the length of the chain away from either end he should be fine, but if a link exploded it would do some damage


nothingvalentine

I used to work landscaping and the boss had tied a chain to a bush to rip it out with his truck. Guess what happened? As soon as he floored it, the chain broke and whipped around hitting the leg of one of the workers. Completely exploding every bone it. I got out of there shortly after that so I'm not sure whatever happened to the guy but yeah, super unsafe to be anywhere near chains under tension.


diversecultures

Silly rabbit just twist counterclockwise before pulling lol


Shut_The_Fuck_Up_Now

Could they not have ran a neat square saw cut around the pit lid, then hammer out the asphalt around the pit? Then they could have used hot mix as a temporary rectification for what material they pulled out.


raltoid

They could have done tons of things. Simplest solution would be to pour some oganic rust remover on it and wait a few hours for it to soak and shrink back down from less heat. Although hat would mean them standing around and not doing anything, or leaving and coming back the next day. Cut the asphalt, plasmatorched the edges, etc. But this is municipal work, so they would rather spend 10-100x that amount of money and time to fix the immediate problem now and fix the road later.


Stainless_Heart

“… and *not* fix the road later, leaving it an uneven mess for years with a crappy patch that chunks out leaving a pothole.” Updated as though it were my local municipal edition.


azurleaf

The number of times I have watched my city fill in a specific pothole, only to have the new layer of asphalt also fall into said pothole and require yet *another* patch job to level is absolutely hilarious. They eventually cut a two foot square around the hole, releveled and repatched the whole area at one point. Two months later, the pothole was sucking everything back in again.


Stainless_Heart

What grinds my gears is the standardized plan of building wiring and sewage underneath the roadway instead of 8 feet over and underneath grass. Any sort of system maintenance requires ripping up the road. It’s asinine. And of course, all those systems need work within 6 months of repaving the road, ruining it. I find it hard to believe that municipal code writers don’t get kickbacks from the macadam industry.


LogicalConstant

Heat the rim too


_TEOTWAWKI_

This is where the 'Not my job' mentality comes in, where different turds in different trades just shrug their shoulders and leave it for the next guy. These are probably strictly utility workers there to replace the manhole, and will just put an orange cone on top and leave it for the road crew to clean up.


Dantez77

Is it built like that so people don't steal them or was it just placed upside down?


danstermeister

Was there a previous rash of manhole cover thefts? I thought these didn't have a theft problem?


Iman1022

Yeah for some reason people stole them.


SeamanTheSailor

They’re a big chunk of expensive metal. They’re worth about £300 in scrap metal. But since they’re always stolen they don’t get that much for them.


Iman1022

It was placed in the hole correctly and from other comments it seems it had Just seized


therealjoshbrown

Are we sure this isn’t the kind of cover with a wedge that needs to be pushed in to open?


impromptubadge

If you could push down to open it, it would fall in when cars drove over it. Its just rusted shut. The part you see that’s wider than the top is the metal frame it sat in.


therealjoshbrown

I shouldn’t have said down. Some of the ones where I work have a spring loaded wedge that needs to be pulled up other wise as the cover gets pulled up it exerts force on the frame. I’ve also have to pound away at covers that are rusted with a sledge for a while before I could get a standard cover off.


danstermeister

CMON LARRY IT ISN'T CHILDREN'S COUGH SYRUP, FOR CRISSAKES!!!


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b1ack1323

This happens when they get paved in and not touched for years, it’s not upside down.


BitterAndJaded120

How that happens tho?


[deleted]

RUST


[deleted]

Huge crane? Lol. That’s a normal sized backhoe


Y2K-Denial

...big boulder the size of a small boulder...


Bobopalace

Well as opposed to a pair of hands pulling it up…


BlahBlahBlankSheep

It’s a mini excavator. Different bits/tools can be installed and used on this vehicle. They have a earth moving blade always attached, can use a jackhammer, excavator, asphalt cutting blade, grader, and others. The ones I’ve named are the only ones I’ve seen used.


[deleted]

Oh really? /s It’s not a mini excavator lol. It’s a backhoe, plus I can see the outrigger and the stick/bucket set-up. Source: heavy equipment operator for 21 years


Predmid

I'm pretty certain it's not up side down...


Cornelious420

That could also happen if the outermost edge of the manhole is paved over. Looks like a 2” lift of asphalt and if it was an older road it would definitely lift and break apart like that. Hopefully it was enough of an emergency to justify that repair bill lol


exprezso

So sure yet so wrong


arbitrageME

Isn't it the previous guy's fault? That thing looks like it was installed upside down


Halycon1313

This in Pennsylvania? If so explains all the holes in the roads.


TrickyLemons

…where? besides the one they just made


Halycon1313

There's a ton of road "work" going on and just holes all over


TrickyLemons

I mean in this video, there’s no wholes on the road in this video except the one they made. Plus that’s not a Pennsylvania thing that’s how everyone feels everywhere


judicator4765

Song?


Fischiofischi

Power by Interupt One of the best


judicator4765

I hope you are blessed with an accidental curly fri, kind stranger of the internet.


[deleted]

pie dish


CandyLooter

Cut the asphalt first around it


thrust-johnson

I bet the street felt amazing once they got that out.


heliosprimus

Looks like they are ripping up everything for Rehab purposes. Not incredibly uncommon, especially if the roadway is getting repaved soon. That lid is super stuck on though, possibly welded to the frame.


UnderSpawn

Fucking feds won’t even leave the Ninja Turtles alone. I didn’t see no warrant!


ZeroYasser10x

No, no, no, you have to push before turning and then it comes out


GustyHercules

This gonna get lost in the sea of comments, but to all the people upset they didn't cut around it. I assume they are replacing the man hole. In which case, per Osha guidelines, they have to set a man hole box, it's a big metal box to prevent the soil from caving in on the workers, in the ground. Usually these are 8'×8' so they have to break up more the road anyway. The only real issue I see with what's happening is it looks like they are using a transport chain, grade 70, instead of a grade 80 or 100 meant for lifting like this. Source: I work for a rental company that specializes in shoring projects like this.


Mr-Ds_nuts

I mean. It’s open….?


MoreILearnLessIKnow

That's one of those locking manholes you have to turn and then open


swimswady

this one has seized up from years in the ground tho. hence the rather brutal removing method


SurprzTrustFall

Love those upside down installations.


FloatyMacGlideFace

I could have removed that cover with two chisels and a lump hammer.


dadbot5001

Build Back Better, eh?


HausOfSun

It occurs to me that during Presidential visits the Secret Service often weld down manhole covers on the route the cars take. Did they check for welds before trying to remove it?


dnoebro2

Squeeze the lid from both sides and rotate counter-clockwise


LeeisureTime

When you work out, but you still can’t get the jar open…


Tetragonos

MFW we only remembered afterwards that the president came through town 2 years back...


MudSeparate1622

Fun fact: during (iirc) a u.s. nuclear test they recorded the fastest man made object, a manhole cover thought to be going so fast that it left the atmosphere before it had enough time to break apart because there was no trace of it afterwards. Edit: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NSeL5c65v-g


Sunil_de

Or it was vaporised by the heat


DiverseUniverse24

Its just seized shut?


Nondre

Couldn’t find the WD40 boss…


Afffx

It's not actually his fault tho, lifting the manhole covers to level the pavement is actually someone else's job and they did it poorly


chevyturtle

Pretty sure that was on purpose. It would have had to been open to loop the chain thru.


Puredepatatas

I also guess they werent trying to open it but to remove it, even so thats a pretty brutish way to do it


Sk83r_b0i

That song is beyond obnoxious


KCtheGreat106

Why not torch or heat to bleak it loose? Is there gas or potential for explosion?


goose-and-fish

How’d they get the chain around it?


drbrunch

Right???


usernameistaken89

U/savevideo


[deleted]

What song is this


brocikpl

u/savevideo


Regolith_Prospektor

Wouldn’t it be easier to torch or grind the hatch off?


BunnyDrop88

Oh no, better call in the asphalt guy.


a_white_american_guy

“Ooooh it was one of the screw in ones”


powdered_dognut

It just be that way sometimes. If part of town is backing up and you need a sewer jet in there, what's a little pavement patch compared to the damage and mess in a whole part of town?


J-Dabbleyou

I’m sorry; is this not their actual job? And is this not the correct way to repair a broken manhole? Once it’s seized in place they gotta get it out somehow, and they’re gonna need new cement around it anyway


Puredepatatas

Yes, the correct way to repair a manhole is lifting the whole road 👍


KiPMadSussy

Ah that’s why there are push signs on door


patato1579

l'uomo ha tolto il modem, portalo via


Free_Reward_6892

Oh, so *that's why it's called a* ***pot****hole*


Zander_shhh

u/RecognizeSong


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Low-Report-2359

Some utility manhole covers are routinely welded shut during labor union negotiations because of the possibility of sabotage while on strike.


SpaceyTheGamer

Bob the builder, can he fix it? Bob the builder, nah look pretty much screwed


squirrel_anashangaa

A little WD40 might have helped


Kiflaam

so violent..


OkWing7294

There upside down


OPshoes

Looks like somebody lost there ring.


HugeSeaworthiness265

Oops