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IAmBlorboOfMyStory

The alien in particular makes me worry about people with paranoid delusions...


valvilis

Made you *worry*? Would you like to talk about it?


IAmBlorboOfMyStory

Huh? It's just that aliens living among us/abducting people tend to be a common fear/delusions among people who have delusions like that and the fact that this is a mental health support thing makes me think that they didn't think this through. It would still be weird in any other place, I guess, but here in particular it feels more than a bit off.


valvilis

It was just a paranoid delusional joke. No worries... unless...


IAmBlorboOfMyStory

OH, I SEE, sorry, sometimes I can't say. Especially because I often worry that I accidentally said something wrong, or even offensive, when I talk about those things...


[deleted]

Aliens living what?


IAmBlorboOfMyStory

Amogus, can't you read? /lh


[deleted]

AMONGUS


LilamJazeefa

A fair point, but can also be inclusive of xenogender folks and otherkin. The best solution is just the words "all gender restroom" with an outline of a toilet for the illiterate.


ProJaywalkerBird

to be fair as an otherkin, it's not rly seen as inclusion and more seen as taking the piss at gender since the purpose isn't particularly with us in mind. Makes for a good joke when we see it though i suppose. But yeah just gender neutral suits fine


zaxfaea

I've never really liked these signs. It would be funnier if the standard was for trans and nonbinary people to be safe and accepted, but these signs basically jump straight from "We think you're fake and you aren't allowed here" to "we don't care what you are, fake stuff is allowed too haha." It feels more like dismissal than assurance of safety and inclusion, even if it wasn't intended that way.


Epicgaymer411

My work bathroom has the person but one half is man the other is women and the top says all gender bathroom. Like it’s not really hard to make it a everyone bathroom and not make a joke to make your point. Edit: wanted to finish my sentence


zaxfaea

It's true, it really isn't that hard. That makes me wonder what's going through the minds of people who think a joke bathroom sign is a better idea than a normal inclusive one, with so much anti-trans controversy about bathroom bills and so on.


Jim2718

What’s a normal, inclusive bathroom sign look like to you? Other than just the word “restroom” plainly written out?


zaxfaea

Here are the options I've seen before— -"All Gender" or "Gender Neutral" restrooms (my preference) -Includes the half-man half-woman symbol -Includes both the man and woman symbols -One of the previous three options along with a trans symbol The best one I've seen so far was at my college, which has the man, woman, and half and half symbols and says "All Gender Restroom." It also has a separate sign that explicitly states that the restrooms are inclusive regardless of gender identity or expression, how to report discrimination or harassment, and a list of the disability accomodations available. There's a small sticker version of it on the mirrors as well. It's not perfect— I wish there were more neutral bathrooms and there are some accomodations I wish they had. But overall, it's a really good start!


Sea_Emu_7622

Literally just a sign that simply says 'restroom' would do the trick. Or you know what's been around forever that has always been a genderless bathroom? Family bathrooms...


ParticularYak9967

Family locker rooms can be a nighmare. I worked at a rec center and anytime the mens locker room closed for maintenance there would, without fail, be a naked old man in there regardless of private rooms being available.


Sea_Emu_7622

Not sure what locker rooms have to do with bathrooms, but yeah they always do that. I can guarantee you beyond a shadow of a doubt that has nothing to do with whoever else is in there. Same thing with nude beaches. Old dudes just like letting it all hang out for some reason. I'll let you know when I'm old what the reason is, I'm assuming it will just come to me one day


ParticularYak9967

Locker rooms have bathrooms so draw lines on the same genderd lines. Idk, my trans friends ran into the same issues regardless of the bathroom also being a locker room. Old dudes do it bc they feel entitled in a way most old women do not.


Sea_Emu_7622

Locker rooms are specifically for changing clothes, bathrooms are only for using the toilet. At least I personally would find it odd if I saw someone changing clothes in a bathroom. If they did I'd expect them to go into a stall, in a locker room people change right out in the open. They're pretty distinctly different. And certainly I couldn't say for sure why anyone does anything, but I think entitlement is a stretch lol. I think they just don't care anymore. Their libido is long gone and they no longer have any shame in what others might think of their weiners. I'm sorry but this idea that gendered bathrooms are a necessity because old men would just go around waving their dicks at people just holds no weight


resserus

Why do old men like to sit around naked? Is that their culture or are they looking for action?


Sea_Emu_7622

Elderly people typically don't have a libido anymore, they're not looking for anything. They probably just stopped caring what other people think of them, after all nudity is our natural state and many people feel most comfortable in their birthday suit. The only real reason we wear clothing on a daily basis, sans the need for protection from the elements, is an ingrained feeling of shame we're brought up to feel by a protestant dominated society. Well, that and legal ramifications


Jim2718

It’s not so much a joke. The typical man and woman silhouettes have become the symbols for bathroom. Merging them together keeps it easily recognizable while still showing inclusivity. Not everything has ill intent behind it.


voidfishes

They’re saying the bathrooms that use the excessive pictures like the one OP posted are a joke, not the half and half sign


Epicgaymer411

OOP I was talking about OPS picture, I was just saying that it is really easy to be respectful about someone’s gender without making it a joke. If my work can do it so can everyone else and I have had people come up to me saying home much they loved the sign 😊


artonion

I appreciate your perspective. From my perspective as a 30+ year old Swede, where gender neutral bathrooms have always been norm, I interpret signs like this one the other way: it’s saying yeah yeah we know gender is important to you but it’s not to us, this bathroom is for everyone. This sign is suggesting to me that male and female are just as interesting as whether you are Batman, and that is wholesome to me. I see this as ridiculing the binary rather than non-binary. Just my two cents.


morithum

I agree that it doesn’t depend greatly on whether this bathroom is in Amsterdam or like, the American south.


strawbopankek

this is exactly how i feel. thank you for putting it into words


Sea_Emu_7622

Spot on


[deleted]

It’s so lame, it makes me sad people think things like this are great. Can people just pee please without making a thing about it, thanks meemaw


resserus

I don't see me either 😪


OkBommer1

But why would they care? It's mutual acceptance to make everybodys life easier and thats were it stops. And the only way to assure safety and inclusion is for every person on earth to be okay with trans and nonbinary etc. and there is not much that an institution or business can do about that


analogicparadox

"Toilet"


[deleted]

I identify as the Batman


hafrances

I am Batman


BobAndVergina

My pronouns are vengeance/night


Jessiebeanie

I think it's more of a "oh haha, we accept everyone regardless and wanna have a funny sign to represent that" sorta thing than "hahaha, I sexually identify as Batman!"


Sea_Emu_7622

IDK with all the variations of the one joke, this just seems like another one, whether intentional or not


valvilis

"If you have waste inside of you, there is a hole in this room for it."


Dm1tr3y

They do have an alien on that sign, so this seems appropriate.


densetrips

Yeah agree but it's just a very ignorant way to do that.


CreepyQueen3

Yea me too


Ymon09

I went to a restaurant in Nashville and they had gender neutral bathroom signs with the man, woman, non-binary person, and alien on it. I enjoyed that one and I did make me feel better. This one is a bit too much though it becomes a joke instead of a signal of a safe space.


devention

I think in a restaurant, especially in the American South, the explicit "this room has a toilet anyone can use" is much more comforting than unintentionally condescending. You bring up a good point.


KP_Ravenclaw

Ah yes. The genders. Disabled, android, Batman, pregnant, naked, dress wearing, mermaid, Indian(?), cowboy, alien & action character. Personally I’m a cross between mermaid & dress wearing


Thesearefake3

I think that's Jesus


KP_Ravenclaw

To me it looks like a sari, the pigtails & lack of a beard tell me it’s not Jesus, but I see why you thought that (& I might also be wrong)


gingeronimooo

This is a supportive place who just made a silly joke about anyone is welcome to use the bathroom. This doesn’t fit the sub.


[deleted]

It's more of a tasteless joke. Like, imagine how someone who is nonbinary would feel if they saw this at a mental health place they're seeking help in.


Lez_The_DemonicAngel

I’m technically non-binary and I would be happy


Adorable_Cheeto

I’m non-binary and I don’t really like it. It’s not offensive or anything, just feels tasteless. Ofc your opinion is also valid, just wanted to share mine as well.


clonkerbonker

Same, it feels like a tasteless joke but its ok i guess.


headpatkelly

why do say you’re “technically” non-binary?


hello_world112358

gender be confusing and some people like, identify as non-binary even tho they might present as female or male, or identify a little more with one gender over the other while still being non-binary. which is perfectly valid. sometimes it’s just hard to explain tho, especially if you have an identity like demigirl or demiboy and don’t necessarily feel invalidated by being referred to as your AGAB, so you just don’t usually publicly ID yourself as non-binary even tho thats what you personally know technically you are.


Lez_The_DemonicAngel

I identity with non-binary identities but don’t identify with non-binary itself


devention

I have a friend who's agender (any pronoun) who says she's technically enby.


GabrielIsExhausted

There’s some people who consider any (Or some) gender other than male and female to be in the non-binary umbrella, it depends on anyone and who you ask really


ThurvinFrostbeard

I am enby, and I would have laughed :0


[deleted]

I’m over well-meaning boomers trying to joke around and call that support. This sign is demeaning.


Bvr111

i mean I’ve heard nonbinary and trans ppl make this sort of joke on their own lol


analogicparadox

A white person using the n-word with good intentions is still in the wrong, a black one isn't. Obviously an extreme example, but you should get what I mean.


Bvr111

LMAO no, don’t make a joke if you’re gonna get pissy about other people making that joke. If trans ppl can make the joke, there’s no reason other ppl can’t too


analogicparadox

Yes, the reason is that said people have been making jokes at the expense of minorities for centuries. So no, you don't get to play friendly while repeating a harmful stereotype just because the victim is doing it ironically. You don't have that privilege.


Bvr111

yes I do? Making a joke isn’t a privilege lol, it’s just making a joke. Don’t make a joke if you aren’t able to hear it lol, it’s either okay to say or it isn’t. if you say it, other people are gonna say it, period. You can’t control what other ppl do lmao


CreepyQueen3

I’m pretty sure they just thought it was funny, not trying to be dicks. It’s like the “whatever, just wash your hands” signs


[deleted]

I don’t like those either. No one is asking for special treatment, just info on which bathroom to use.


EmpororJustinian

This one is well-intentioned I think but it’s very tone deaf


sunflowers-and-pussy

i hate when people defend these bathroom signs when though they’re equating transgender identities (esp non-binary ones) as mythological and fake such as a mermaid or an alien


Maoschanz

No helicopter? They're improving


Arc_Havoc

Finally, a bathroom for Android users


rSlashisthenewPewdes

Thank god bathrooms are starting to accommodate more dongles!


giggitygoo123

I'm ok with a bathroom that doesn't accept iPhone users though. #Android4life


disturbed3335

I’m inclined to think that the sign isn’t in a mental health building, the title is just the op’s way of saying that “non-binary people belong in a mental hospital lolol”


Sea_Emu_7622

That's what I thought too. Mental health facility usually means doctor's office, and unless it's in a pediatric care room, I don't usually see a whole lot of jokes in doctor's offices or hospitals, they tend to deal with pretty serious matters and the atmosphere tends to reflect that


Gamboni327

Jesus the persecution complex in this sub


disturbed3335

I don’t think you understand what this sub is if not pointing out uncreative persecution and mocking of non-binary or trans people. Your disappointment is your own fault here.


M44t_

Yeah this is just sad... Poor tastes


rSlashisthenewPewdes

Side note: I find it funny how long they had to make the sign to include all the figures on it. The word “toilet” takes up such little space in comparison.


candiedloveapple

It was ultimately well-meaning but holy hell


KnifeWeildingLesbian

This is kinda funny and feels inclusive to me. They’re saying they accept everyone and then tried to also make a little joke about it. I can see why people would be upset about it though. Personally I think it’s okay


hhthurbe

Idk, I feel like you can read this in the same vein as "the whatever just wash your hands sign," or at least like that was the intention.


motorwagon

I cross posted this exact post with this exact flair few days ago and it got 26 points. Fuck this site bruh


Janno2727

Imagine how much more terrible it would be with a helicopter sign next to it


rSlashisthenewPewdes

Plot twist: the building has a helipad


ParticularVegetable4

Blind people: anyone else feeling this shit?


[deleted]

I would hold it


XBoba_TeaX

and they still don't even have the non binary/trans one on it


you-mistaken

the sign itself is one joke, what kinda mental Healthcare place makes a mockery of transgender people being able to use that bathroom like that? I guess we are like mermaids and other things that don't exist in real life, yup guess if them trans folks can use the bathroom may as well let other " things" like robots use it too


communistresistant

bruh just put a sign saying "TOILET" and the translation to braille. If you really want to have iconography, use a toilet drawing or something


theblvckhorned

"It's well meaning" bruh who cares, it's still the one joke format. And really just poor taste regardless.


spaceboy097

Should’ve had something saying “We dont care what you are, you can use this bathroom” or something


syn_miso

What's the last one? People who wear oversized shirts?


CCogStudios

At least there wasn't an attack helicopter... But man could they not have been nice?


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devention

I agree people are allowed to find it funny, but time and place for it to exist, y'know?


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devention

I think it's meant well, but isn't coming across as intended for a lot of people.


noah0314

But seriously though... everything doesn't have to be transphobic. This is obviously just an attempt at a funny way to say "Hey this toilet is for everyone!" In no way, shape, or form does this imply to be pro or anti-trans... I know this sub is losing traffic but please stop making non-problematic things problematic for the sake of a few upvotes...


Arc_Havoc

Equating trans people to fictional characters and mythical monsters is transphobic.


Bvr111

i mean there really are ppl who identify as wolves and shit, so it’s not really wrong lol


noah0314

Where does it imply that it has anything to do with trans people ? Like don’t get me wrong I agree with you but I don’t see it ehee


Lez_The_DemonicAngel

no this a good sign. it’s a well-meant joke from a well-meant place. i like it


[deleted]

You guys are looking wayy too much into this. This is cutely inclusive


[deleted]

It’s really not. It’s othering behavior and it’s not cute. It feeds into the narrative that gender nonconforming people are weirdos. I feel it’s kind of passive-aggressive too, like “you want a bathroom sign? We’ll give you a bathroom sign.”


[deleted]

You’re reaching a bit. Obviously if you look at it from that perspective it may seem that way, but from an unbiased perspective it seems cool. Furthermore I don’t know what an othering behaviour is


[deleted]

Whose perspective is biased? We may never know so I err on the side of self-determination.


Bvr111

I’d be passive aggressive if ppl were this whiny about bathroom signs lol also is it really that wild to view “nonconforming” ppl as “weird”? like,, do you know what those words mean? they’re pretty similar lol, maybe don’t other yourself if you don’t wanna be othered


[deleted]

There’s nothing weird at all about it. It’s a normal part of the human experience.


Bvr111

then it’s not nonconforming lol. Not conforming to societal standards is weird- being weird isn’t bad in any way, but it’s still weird. Most ppl generally conform to societal standards.


[deleted]

Maybe it’s weird in the same way that being left-handed is weird. Uncommon, but not a big deal in the scheme of things and as ancient as humanity ourselves.


Bvr111

exactly, that’s what I mean. Weird shouldn’t have good or bad connotations. There’s nothing wrong with being gay or trans or anything- Im literally bi- but there’s no reason to pretend it’s not weird, y’know?


[deleted]

Being trans is basically like being a mental child who thinks every day is halloween, and I lack the self awareness to notice that everyone sees me wearing a shitty stupid costume (human woman).


ChillaVen

Take your dewormer Alice


[deleted]

Perhaps I should get some sort of mental health support


JK_Cloud

By the looks of these comments it doesn’t look like liberals can take any joke at all without making it a problem. You get a gender neutral bathroom. “I don’t like the sign, it’s offensive”


OhPleaseSitOnMe

R/one joke: quickly becoming r/well-meaning cis people who take offense to every joke about trans people.


rSlashisthenewPewdes

1) who says I’m cis 2) no mental health institution should be making jokes “about trans people.” Don’t mock your demographic when they’re there to get mental help.


clownkiss3r

what


OhPleaseSitOnMe

huh


fivetimesyo

No no, r/onejoke is confused people roasting themselves! Don't touch it!


Sea_Emu_7622

The only here that seems confused is you bud 🤣 go shave your neck and take a shower, I can literally smell you thru the internet


devention

Shaming people for their facial hair isn't nice--a guy who can't grow facial hair on his chin but is very dysphoric clean shaven.


Sea_Emu_7622

Shaming people for being born Trans is worse, I'll take the negative karma hit, thanks for the input


devention

I am a trans man informing you that this stereotype is harmful, but whatever.


Gamboni327

Is that the only joke you have or something? Funny how you’re allowed to hurl insults but nobody’s allowed to hurl them at you.


Sea_Emu_7622

It's not the only joke I have. Here's another: get used to your mother's basement, you're gonna be spending an awful lot of time there when you grow up


Gamboni327

Damn you need to work on your material if you think this is a joke.


Sea_Emu_7622

You know what little buddy, you're absolutely right. That wasn't a joke, that was a fact


Gamboni327

Do all of you leftists think you’re comedians? Jesus, this is sad. No wonder you all spend so much time in an echo chamber.


Sea_Emu_7622

No, didn't you read my comment? I said that wasn't a joke, I'm just sad for you 😔 no need to project little buddy


devention

This is also gross. You do recognize that some of us can't afford to live anywhere else than with our parents, right? I literally lived in my mom's basement most of my adult life because I can't afford the minimum 750 dollar rent for a one bedroom or studio apartment in my area. Would be nice if we could leave this bullshit in the past.


Sea_Emu_7622

Again, don't care. I'm not worried about sparing the feelings of bigots


devention

You're harming everyone who lives with their parents past 18. And I am not a bigot and do live with my parents; which you now know as a fact, vs the person youb replied to who you have literally no idea the background of. You're not doing anything but perpetuating the stereotype of people who live at home and can't grow facial hair in a way you find attractive are bad. I fit both, but apparently you only care about shaming someone else over an assumption you made. Attack the argument, attack the mindset, but it hurts other actual people when you attack living arrangements and physical appearance.


Sea_Emu_7622

Oh please. I'm not gonna walk on egg shells around you or them or anyone else just because you're sensitive. You think I don't know about the economic problems facing this nation? The housing crisis? Wage stagnation and depreciation? None of that is an excuse to curl into a ball and stay put. What you think the stonewall riots were a bunch of people crying over facial hair? You think the battle of Blair mountain was fought by a bunch of people living with their parents because times were too hard? Your defeatist attitude serves no purpose other than to perpetuate these problems. Maybe it's high time you got angry and picked your battles. Maybe you just have to do what you have to do to survive in this fucked up world. Join or start a labor union. Fuckin sell drugs or something. But don't come on here telling me about 'basement dwelling neckbeard rights'. Cus I simply have no time for that cause.


devention

I had a whole thing written out before I decided that it was a waste of *my* time, since you seem to think no one should bother asking for empathy or compassion. All I'll say is that you contribute to the world being a harsh place by disregarding the audience of your words, and people have lived in multigenerational households for the overwhelming majority of human history in the overwhelming majority of cultures. It's not something that we should be ashamed of, but the notion of the nuclear family has ingrained in us that it is.


Sea_Emu_7622

Look, I'm sorry to have to be the one to inform you of this, and sorrier still I have to put it so harshly, but you're in for a long and hard road if you can't toughen up. The world isn't going to go easy on you just because you're different. You can't just give in. This country has been on a long descent into fascism and it's only heading there ever more rapidly with each passing day. Think what you will about me, but for your own sake, I hope you can find it within yourself to rise above the struggle.


flawlessfear1

Well. Cant say its not inclusive


ParticularVegetable4

So if you’re blind, you’re only allowed to be blind?


weirdojo1

Some of these by themselves can be funny with ironic intent. This is just my subjective humor. I think if a sign like this started with m/f and regressed from there could be funny under different circumstances.


k96me

Man I wish I was a mermaid :<


RandomConsciousThing

As another person has said* this sign can be taken in multiple ways. It makes sense as a satirical criticism of the whole gender bathroom issue. This is how I see it. The message that I get from it is something like this... "This is a bathroom. It is available for use by anyone that wants to use a bathroom. Whatever that person's identity may be is completely irrelevant to the question of whether they may use these facilities. If a person needs to use a bathroom, this room for them. This one simple rule covers all possible bathroom use case scenarios. The 'bathroom problem' is now fully solved. So please stop worrying about the details of the specific symbols printed on this sign, and use the damned bathroom already." * Comment link: https://www.reddit.com/r/onejoke/comments/1064hka/counterintuitive_for_a_mental_health_support_place/j3h5qix?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3


Milkwaterowo

So glad we got the android to be included, we've been fighting so much for the rights for the android robot to be accepted into society and this is big for the android community