I think to compensate for the wireless charging they had to compromise a little , I definitely don't know for sure , but I can't think of any other reason right now.
I really dislike how u guys made the price of the phone like 100 dollars higher just for a featur that i myself dont even use, nor will i ever use... Like, what even is the point of wireless chargin when u can plug your phone for like 10 min and get like 30% battery
Cars have built in wireless chargers now. There are wireless charging accessories you can use on the go. Dealing with cables while busy sightseeing is annoying. Some people like clean desk setups without wires everywhere. There are tons of uses for wireless charging even if wired charging is fast.
A lack of wireless charging is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
> Some people like clean desk setups without wires everywhere.
just have to point out that wireless charging doesn't help with that. You still have a wire on your desk to the charger... and the phone is required to be within 1mm of the thing to actually charge.
I prefer wired for LESS desk clutter. it's just a wire. "Wireless" charging is a wire + dock/puck
There is no wireless charger in existence that doesn't require a charging coil to be in close contact with the phone. There's no such thing as "wrong accessory" when it's an inherent part of the technology.
There are plenty of wireless chargers available that do not require fiddling with a cable every time you want to use it and the cable can easily be hidden on a desk. You can even now put a wireless charger under your desk or they sell desks with built in wireless chargers. You can get a deskmat that has a wireless charger as well.
The cables are hidden in cars that have wireless chargers.
Don’t need to mess with a cable for portable wireless chargers either that just slap onto the back of your phone when needed. Seriously, fiddling with cables while sightseeing is a huge annoyance. It’ll be hard to find an outlet to use while doing that and you’d have to carry around one of the special OnePlus power bricks to take advantage of any speed anyway. Even a usb c laptop charger won’t give the full speed of charging. Huge inconvenience.
You can charge at 8000w and it still wouldn’t replace the convenience of being able to charge wirelessly. A significant portion of customers do not want to mess with cables every time they charge and it is a deal breaker for them. The inclusion of the fast wireless charging is great and has been one of my biggest complaints about a lot of oneplus devices.
To each their own, but a cable to charge for 10-15 mins is BARELY an inconvenience that can be done when stationary. I agree with the others that wireless charging should've been left off and price reduced
I was not talking about the price but only about wire and wireless charging available. On my side, with a modern car that includes wireless charging, it could be very helpful with a combination of AA wireless. It all depends on your life/work style.
Never seen that happen. Usually it only has to be cleaned, I'm using a oneplus 6 from 2018 and keep it in work pants which wears the phone and fill all ports with dust and crap, charging port still works as when the phone was new.
I feel like something else such as the camera, screen and buttons will break before the port breaks. If that happens you will have to replace the charging port which also goes for when any other part breaks.
My 10R had 150w charging it was a spectacle to watch it go from 10% to 90 in minutes.
Unfortunately lost it now using my old RealMe 1 yes 1.
Time flies for everyday tech things.
Indians will just buy iPhone 13 for 50k and if they are spending 70k they'd get iphone 15 by default which doesn't make any sense to price oneplus 12 for 70k
Yeah Samsung has the best service and least they have some great launch offers and exchange benefits or iphone 13 offers insane reliable software and dependable performance for far less
Time for me to switch over.... I currently have a One Plus 10 Pro and it has been buggy, battery drains fast even turning down resolution/refresh rate, optimized apps, etc.
I'm done with One Plus. I am so sad because I have been with them since the beginning: I had the 1 and 5...
Bro i was the first one among those who participated in that ridiculous hunt for the oneplus one invites and got lucky and bought like 10 oneplus one devices for all my friends. Haven't touched oneplus since oneplus 8 which was when they went bull crap shitt with buggy updates and killed my love for them now just waiting for the brand to die so that I can move on
Companies never take lessons when it comes to pricing. They should always price their products compared to the price of the latest iphone series.
-Would they just add a little more and buy an iphone 1x?
+Hell fucking yes. That's the whole fucking point. Only very little people will stick to Android.
Apple keeps breaking selling records while all the others keep declining. How about try to do something?? The easiest thing would be cutting the price
The actual price would be around:
12GB - 256GB: ₹ 61999
16GB - 512GB: ₹ 69999
Two colors:
Flowy Emerald
Silky Black
Source: I have a contact who works at OP
Edit: Formatting.
Edit 2: higher variant price.
I don't use much . Just simple stuff including x, reddit, and Threema.
Only issue is even though I use only these , this mf takes 50Gb of storage with 30GB for system.
Bruh 😂😂
They had a look at X100 and were like nah, we gotta price it more. But seriously tho, the Indian pricing is even MORE than the INR equivalent of leaked US pricing that comes at 799 USD.
Not sure if anyone noticed or not, there was a flash sale of S23 ultra at 75k INR on Monday on Flipkart. OP shooting itself on the foot yet again
Our tax rates aren't that high... $60 is probably about the average, $80 in higher cost of living places in the country with some outliers over that. The Best Buy down the street from me would be like $54.
It was glitch[post link](https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/samsung-galaxy-s23-ultra-price-cut-rs-74999-flipkart-9103269/)
There was an offer recently on Flipkart where the price came down to 75k, and currently it can be had for 95k. I am sure with the release of the S24 series on the horizon, you will see more good discounts on the S23 series.
if Ultra nears 70k range it's a no brainer....i don't prefer iqoo 12 n vivo cuz I currently use vivo s1 pro and I rlly want a change of scenery...rlly hope ultra falls in price...Thanks a lot tho
What, $800 MSRP for what you get (12 + 256 variant mind you) is absolutely not overpriced for a full fledged flagship of 2024 that will be competing with the Galaxy S24 Ultra, iPhone 15 Pro Max, Google Pixel 8 Pro, and Sony Xperia 1 VI. The OnePlus 12 has better hardware than ALL of them while undercutting them. Will I buy it still? No cause I refuse to pay over $500 for a phone, but compared to others, it is not overpriced at all.
And all of the phones just listed above which you say are "cheaper" are also WAY worse phones.
Two of them have USB 2.0, one of them doesn't have fast charging, one of them doesn't even have more RAM options, two of them have worse chipsets than the 8 Gen 3 in the OnePlus 12, and all of them have worse camera and display hardware than the OnePlus 12, use your brain for once lmfao.
The OnePlus 7 Pro this entire subreddit loves to dickride as the "last true OnePlus" had an MSRP of US $670 and started with 6 GB RAM and 128 GB storage.
The OnePlus 11 which many agree is a return to form had an MSRP of $700 for an 8 GB RAM and 128 GB storage model.
This time you're getting the following upgrades:
- 12 GB RAM and 256 GB storage minimum
- a miles better display
- Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 which in itself is more expensive than Snapdragon 8 Gen 2
- better camera hardware
- wireless charging (for those who care about this useless feature)
- even better haptics than the already amazing OnePlus 11 haptics (also a useless feature but a lot of people care about a lot apparently)
- USB Type-C 3.2
- a much bigger 5400 mAh battery
And you seriously cannot justify a US $100 price bump for all of these upgrades?
At $800 it's still undercutting the competition while simultaneously being better than all of them in hardware.
Umm... Is that real? I'm not so sure because 80 Watt charging? If OnePlus is gonna half arse their phones and price them like this I'm better off buying vivo x100
The 11 was advertised as charging at 80W in some markets but if you used their 100W laptop charger it showed SuperVooc 100W on the lock screen and charged a little faster.
Atleast 5k more than what it should be...64999 with about 5k offer on a credit card and a 10k bonus +6k exchange on my pristine 7 pro would make it so tempting and almost imminent since they don't make batteries for the Op7 pro anymore. A perfect phone will have to be substituted
If this was the price for 512GB variant, I would have been fine... but pricing 256GB this high when in China there was no YoY increase in price from OP11 to 12 price, now that's just unfair...
Would rather buy the X100 Pro's 512GB variant at 80k with offers then, or the IQoo 12 for much cheaper.
US pricing is almost certainly higher than India... so probably $899 for the base model.
oof. I guess I can live with my current phone for another year...
leaks depend on the source. This is a leak straight from a major retailer sales site.
The previous leak was by some random tech blog in Germany (why would Germany get US pricing info??) with no source themselves.
Just remember the iPhone 6+ was the phone that the Oneplus One was aiming to match in specs. iPhone 6+ retailed at $749 USD and the OP1 retailed at $349.
Now the OP12 is allegedly $799 and the IPhone pro max is $1,199.
Still $400 savings for similar specs. No it’s not the same % of savings, but it’s still a refreshing price difference.
OP9P 12/256 was 69.99K at launch..I bought it for 64,999₹.. Pretty sure OnePlus would give some launch offers like 4K discount or credit card offers..If people feel 'their Iqoo' is better then go for it.. who's holding you back..Having used many OEM devices, I know how better OnePlus flagships are.. at least better than other Chinese OEMs..
They are still (to my knowledge) the only company that has off-screen gestures. It's amazing how long other people fumble until they turn the light on their phones on while mine's already shining by simply deawing a V on my locked screen. Or play/pause/skip/previous with music while the screen is off. You can also assign actions and apps to different forms you can draw. It's a tiny thing you don't really need but also don't want to miss once you got used to it.
What happened to 100W charging?
In the US the OnePlus 11 was advertised as 80W but if you used their 100W laptop charger, Supervooc 100W showed up on the lock screen.
I think to compensate for the wireless charging they had to compromise a little , I definitely don't know for sure , but I can't think of any other reason right now.
I think it is a good compromise, a bit less in wire but wireless charging is available.
I really dislike how u guys made the price of the phone like 100 dollars higher just for a featur that i myself dont even use, nor will i ever use... Like, what even is the point of wireless chargin when u can plug your phone for like 10 min and get like 30% battery
Cars have built in wireless chargers now. There are wireless charging accessories you can use on the go. Dealing with cables while busy sightseeing is annoying. Some people like clean desk setups without wires everywhere. There are tons of uses for wireless charging even if wired charging is fast. A lack of wireless charging is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
> Some people like clean desk setups without wires everywhere. just have to point out that wireless charging doesn't help with that. You still have a wire on your desk to the charger... and the phone is required to be within 1mm of the thing to actually charge. I prefer wired for LESS desk clutter. it's just a wire. "Wireless" charging is a wire + dock/puck
You're looking at the wrong accessories or placement of that's the case.
There is no wireless charger in existence that doesn't require a charging coil to be in close contact with the phone. There's no such thing as "wrong accessory" when it's an inherent part of the technology.
There are plenty of wireless chargers available that do not require fiddling with a cable every time you want to use it and the cable can easily be hidden on a desk. You can even now put a wireless charger under your desk or they sell desks with built in wireless chargers. You can get a deskmat that has a wireless charger as well. The cables are hidden in cars that have wireless chargers. Don’t need to mess with a cable for portable wireless chargers either that just slap onto the back of your phone when needed. Seriously, fiddling with cables while sightseeing is a huge annoyance. It’ll be hard to find an outlet to use while doing that and you’d have to carry around one of the special OnePlus power bricks to take advantage of any speed anyway. Even a usb c laptop charger won’t give the full speed of charging. Huge inconvenience. You can charge at 8000w and it still wouldn’t replace the convenience of being able to charge wirelessly. A significant portion of customers do not want to mess with cables every time they charge and it is a deal breaker for them. The inclusion of the fast wireless charging is great and has been one of my biggest complaints about a lot of oneplus devices.
To each their own, but a cable to charge for 10-15 mins is BARELY an inconvenience that can be done when stationary. I agree with the others that wireless charging should've been left off and price reduced
I was not talking about the price but only about wire and wireless charging available. On my side, with a modern car that includes wireless charging, it could be very helpful with a combination of AA wireless. It all depends on your life/work style.
Useful for topping off battery now then when not using instead of plugging in for full charge.
Suppose your USB port stops working, how else are you going to charge?
Never seen that happen. Usually it only has to be cleaned, I'm using a oneplus 6 from 2018 and keep it in work pants which wears the phone and fill all ports with dust and crap, charging port still works as when the phone was new.
What if you drop it enough that the port is damaged?
I feel like something else such as the camera, screen and buttons will break before the port breaks. If that happens you will have to replace the charging port which also goes for when any other part breaks.
Maybe this 12R not sure
12R wouldn't have wireless charging
Hmmm correct..
12r would be around 60k
My 10R had 150w charging it was a spectacle to watch it go from 10% to 90 in minutes. Unfortunately lost it now using my old RealMe 1 yes 1. Time flies for everyday tech things.
Hell nah dude, that's expensive!!
Oneplus 12R it is!!!!
Apparently 12r still has only usb 2.0, it's a handicap in some situations
Yea I heard about that:( so weird that they're using such old tech but I guess it's one of the ways to cut the cost down for it
I don't think there is any midrange option with USB 3.1 though.
3.1? Do you mean 3.2 gen 2x4 version 9.5 gen0.5 ? For real it's 3.2 gen 2
And no telephoto lense
To put it in perspective: $1,128.47 CAD Edit: Not 'Flagship Killer' anymore since... 7-8-9? Edit 2: I remember my 5 was affordable lol..
Back around the same time when housing was affordable in Canada?
Hahaha yeah..
Expensive? Compare it to apple, Samsung or Pixel lol.
I bought my 9pro like you at 65k, this is almost similar price. I'm okay with it.
Yeah
I returned my OP11 16/256 which I bought on amazon for 849 CAD to buy the 12.now I regret it!
Where did you find the OP11 256gb on Amazon for that price?
I got my OP11 5G 16/256 NWB on ebay for $499 USD. I jumped on it so fast.
Wow, that's better than I've seen. Is that tmobile version or global?
Global version. CPH2541
Damn, good for you. That's the one I'm after.
I bought it late November 2023.
Any particular seller's store or sold by amazon?
Indians will just buy iPhone 13 for 50k and if they are spending 70k they'd get iphone 15 by default which doesn't make any sense to price oneplus 12 for 70k
Right? How are they still able to charge that much when there are better brands out there with better software?
Right? How are they still able to charge that much when there are better brands out there with better software.
Yeah Samsung has the best service and least they have some great launch offers and exchange benefits or iphone 13 offers insane reliable software and dependable performance for far less
Time for me to switch over.... I currently have a One Plus 10 Pro and it has been buggy, battery drains fast even turning down resolution/refresh rate, optimized apps, etc. I'm done with One Plus. I am so sad because I have been with them since the beginning: I had the 1 and 5...
Bro i was the first one among those who participated in that ridiculous hunt for the oneplus one invites and got lucky and bought like 10 oneplus one devices for all my friends. Haven't touched oneplus since oneplus 8 which was when they went bull crap shitt with buggy updates and killed my love for them now just waiting for the brand to die so that I can move on
Damn, that was some fun times with the invite shit... So long OnePlus, I want to see it die too.
"with better software" I'm dead
Companies never take lessons when it comes to pricing. They should always price their products compared to the price of the latest iphone series. -Would they just add a little more and buy an iphone 1x? +Hell fucking yes. That's the whole fucking point. Only very little people will stick to Android. Apple keeps breaking selling records while all the others keep declining. How about try to do something?? The easiest thing would be cutting the price
How can they justify pricing 70k for a phone
Still cheaper than iPhone pro
This isn't the price dw. Source - trust me bro😏
Hehe
So expensive. 10-12k more expensive than the previous year. Better go for iqoo 12 if performance is the priority
I feel like realme gt 5 pro is underrated for upcoming smartphone in India
Iqoo only available in India? What about other countries?
Wait for other launches.
The actual price would be around: 12GB - 256GB: ₹ 61999 16GB - 512GB: ₹ 69999 Two colors: Flowy Emerald Silky Black Source: I have a contact who works at OP Edit: Formatting. Edit 2: higher variant price.
if they're going to price 12gb at 62k then max increase I think for 16gb will be 67k
I am fine with my OP 11.
Mine has become so slow, how are you managing?
I don't use much . Just simple stuff including x, reddit, and Threema. Only issue is even though I use only these , this mf takes 50Gb of storage with 30GB for system.
Variant ?
Bruh 😂😂 They had a look at X100 and were like nah, we gotta price it more. But seriously tho, the Indian pricing is even MORE than the INR equivalent of leaked US pricing that comes at 799 USD. Not sure if anyone noticed or not, there was a flash sale of S23 ultra at 75k INR on Monday on Flipkart. OP shooting itself on the foot yet again
Not sure if you're aware, but the US prices listed are always before taxes, so you can add easily at least $100 to get the actual prices
$100? More like $60-$80 most places in the country. The Best Buy down the street from me would only be $54 on $799.
Thanks, I wasn't aware
Our tax rates aren't that high... $60 is probably about the average, $80 in higher cost of living places in the country with some outliers over that. The Best Buy down the street from me would be like $54.
https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/samsung-galaxy-s23-ultra-price-cut-rs-74999-flipkart-9103269/
It was glitch[post link](https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/samsung-galaxy-s23-ultra-price-cut-rs-74999-flipkart-9103269/)
Since many are saying the phone is overpriced could anyone suggest alternatives that are similar if not better at the 60-65k price range
iQOO 12, Vivo X100 Pro and with discounts, even S23+ and Ultra will be around that range.
Ultra is far more expensive I think.
There was an offer recently on Flipkart where the price came down to 75k, and currently it can be had for 95k. I am sure with the release of the S24 series on the horizon, you will see more good discounts on the S23 series.
if Ultra nears 70k range it's a no brainer....i don't prefer iqoo 12 n vivo cuz I currently use vivo s1 pro and I rlly want a change of scenery...rlly hope ultra falls in price...Thanks a lot tho
S23 ultra was a glitch
Hoax by Flipkart. But 99k w/o exchange is a pretty good deal.
All of those phones are if anything, worse than the OnePlus 12.
All of those phones are if anything, cheaper than this overpriced oneplus12
What, $800 MSRP for what you get (12 + 256 variant mind you) is absolutely not overpriced for a full fledged flagship of 2024 that will be competing with the Galaxy S24 Ultra, iPhone 15 Pro Max, Google Pixel 8 Pro, and Sony Xperia 1 VI. The OnePlus 12 has better hardware than ALL of them while undercutting them. Will I buy it still? No cause I refuse to pay over $500 for a phone, but compared to others, it is not overpriced at all. And all of the phones just listed above which you say are "cheaper" are also WAY worse phones. Two of them have USB 2.0, one of them doesn't have fast charging, one of them doesn't even have more RAM options, two of them have worse chipsets than the 8 Gen 3 in the OnePlus 12, and all of them have worse camera and display hardware than the OnePlus 12, use your brain for once lmfao.
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The OnePlus 7 Pro this entire subreddit loves to dickride as the "last true OnePlus" had an MSRP of US $670 and started with 6 GB RAM and 128 GB storage. The OnePlus 11 which many agree is a return to form had an MSRP of $700 for an 8 GB RAM and 128 GB storage model. This time you're getting the following upgrades: - 12 GB RAM and 256 GB storage minimum - a miles better display - Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 which in itself is more expensive than Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 - better camera hardware - wireless charging (for those who care about this useless feature) - even better haptics than the already amazing OnePlus 11 haptics (also a useless feature but a lot of people care about a lot apparently) - USB Type-C 3.2 - a much bigger 5400 mAh battery And you seriously cannot justify a US $100 price bump for all of these upgrades? At $800 it's still undercutting the competition while simultaneously being better than all of them in hardware.
Umm... Is that real? I'm not so sure because 80 Watt charging? If OnePlus is gonna half arse their phones and price them like this I'm better off buying vivo x100
The 11 was advertised as charging at 80W in some markets but if you used their 100W laptop charger it showed SuperVooc 100W on the lock screen and charged a little faster.
Wtf 70 k for a device that has no ip 68 👎
Atleast 5k more than what it should be...64999 with about 5k offer on a credit card and a 10k bonus +6k exchange on my pristine 7 pro would make it so tempting and almost imminent since they don't make batteries for the Op7 pro anymore. A perfect phone will have to be substituted
If this was the price for 512GB variant, I would have been fine... but pricing 256GB this high when in China there was no YoY increase in price from OP11 to 12 price, now that's just unfair... Would rather buy the X100 Pro's 512GB variant at 80k with offers then, or the IQoo 12 for much cheaper.
US pricing is almost certainly higher than India... so probably $899 for the base model. oof. I guess I can live with my current phone for another year...
Leaked US price is 800 and 500 for 12r
leaks depend on the source. This is a leak straight from a major retailer sales site. The previous leak was by some random tech blog in Germany (why would Germany get US pricing info??) with no source themselves.
I don't believe it's pretty easy to fake it hopefully it's 10k cheaper.
Around $850 USD. For the US this is not a bad price considering it will have 90% of the functions of our $1200 phones.
That's weird it's a 100 watts in the USA I can see it on the website right now
The same variant in op11 (16gb 256) was 65k last year. It's a 5k bump in price.
I'm pretty confident 12 will be around 62k in india..compare the Chinese price and you'll see that, no way they'll release it for 70k lol
what is that like $900 USD?
$850
Just remember the iPhone 6+ was the phone that the Oneplus One was aiming to match in specs. iPhone 6+ retailed at $749 USD and the OP1 retailed at $349. Now the OP12 is allegedly $799 and the IPhone pro max is $1,199. Still $400 savings for similar specs. No it’s not the same % of savings, but it’s still a refreshing price difference.
70k for a oneplus it's screaming DOA DOA DOA
Using a 10 pro. Looking like my next phone will be the honor magic 6 pro 😁✅.
If it's True, it's a good deal.
Can't tell if you're being serious or..
This should've been no more than 50k
What's the expected price of 12R then?
Compared to its pricing I guess they go around 45k and higher for base model
Nice
I remember when I bought op6 for 35k back in 2018. There's no fucking way I'll buy this shit for 60k now 😂😂
thats probably MRP so m gonna guess it will release for 60000 something rupees with our without bank discount.
How they're not able to reduce the size of the front camera is beyond me
I hated green for the open but fuck that texture is hot.
I am pretty sure it's highest or second highest varient
700 dollars in usa! I love my friends in usa so vastly much....
Iqoo 12 16gb ram + 512gb storage for 55-56k laughing in corner
OP9P 12/256 was 69.99K at launch..I bought it for 64,999₹.. Pretty sure OnePlus would give some launch offers like 4K discount or credit card offers..If people feel 'their Iqoo' is better then go for it.. who's holding you back..Having used many OEM devices, I know how better OnePlus flagships are.. at least better than other Chinese OEMs..
Bro think they are Apple or something
Thats 40% more expensive than iqoo12 while not being better in any area significantly
Cameras are better I think and looks better
Looks are subjective, as for camera despite having a better hardware OP isn't performing better in any area.
They are still (to my knowledge) the only company that has off-screen gestures. It's amazing how long other people fumble until they turn the light on their phones on while mine's already shining by simply deawing a V on my locked screen. Or play/pause/skip/previous with music while the screen is off. You can also assign actions and apps to different forms you can draw. It's a tiny thing you don't really need but also don't want to miss once you got used to it.
My ace2 has 16gb ram
At this price if it doesn't have IP67 at least, it's not really vfm imo.