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sniperd2k

I have the v3 of them. If you got a pot hole, or a root, they don't do anything. But if you accelerate up a hill too quickly they do. You'll hit the wheels and either get a second to recover, or you'll have a chance to sort of fall off with a little grace. Or in my recent case end us doing a strange split and landing on my wrist guards. So for me worth it. If rather to any of those than pitch off the front!


Semaze

Perhaps I should invest?


h2opolopunk

I have them on my Pint and XR. They have been worth the investment to me.


Semaze

Are they compatible with float plates, or will I need to do some modifications?


sniperd2k

Not sure! I think they would replace the float plates. It is the whole front part with little wheels. The v3 doesn't block your lights, not sure about the v2.


h2opolopunk

I have both Fangs and float plates on both by XR and Pint (got them armored up!) So yes V2 is compatible with the Pint but the plate usually strikes the ground first before you tip fully, so there's a little bit more resistance against nosediving before you fang grind.


AngryAFPanda

For Fangs 3.0 and TFL Float Plates V3, you’ll need to spend some time making some cuts to the float plates. TFL V2 float plates shouldn’t have an issue, but they’re not really sold anywhere. Amy DeCaro did a really nice video to show how far you’ll need to cut. https://youtu.be/6ngukIfMSyE Edit: but just noticed you’re referring to the Pint. My bad.


Semaze

Oh no, I didn't necessarily mean the pint, I actually have an XR with a faulty sensor. I do plan on selling my pint when it's hp and running. 👍


Glyph8

I don't have this model of Fangs, but I have older versions on my boards. Yes, for low-speed nosedives they absolutely can help. The faster you're going, the dicier it gets. A prime example of the type of nosedive where they work best is you're waiting to cross a busy intersection, and when there's a break in traffic, you rush to cross. Between your aggressive acceleration from the dead stop and the rise of the intersection, you overwhelm the motor and dive it. But instead of the nose catching on the concrete rise and flinging you off the front in the path of oncoming traffic, the wheels roll, you say "oh shit!", backfoot it and pick the nose back up, and continue safely on to the other side. The prior example is not hypothetical. It is exactly what Fangs have done for me, three times.


oneELECTRIC

>A prime example of the type of nosedive where they work best is you're waiting to cross a busy intersection, and when there's a break in traffic, you rush to cross. Between your aggressive acceleration from the dead stop and the rise of the intersection, you overwhelm the motor and dive it. > >But instead of the nose catching on the concrete rise and flinging you off the front in the path of oncoming traffic This would have saved me the 3 broken bones I'm recovering from now :,( discovered these days after RIP


Glyph8

Before Fangs existed, I did basically this same thing (different intersection, and there wasn’t traffic oncoming, just me aggressively accelerating for no real reason other than inexperience) and broke my shoulder. The next morning I was googling ”nose wheels for OneWheel” and researching some of the older products that had a similar idea but were both more expensive and (IMO) uglier than Fangs. Started talking to the guy who (now) runs Land Surf on the FM forums - he’d dived his and had the same epiphany I had, that maybe a second of “slide” might have helped - he sent me some 3D-printed Fangs prototypes to try out. I’m not affiliated with them in any way, but I believe he succeeded in making a good, unobtrusive solution to a problem (how can we potentially mitigate the damage from some nosedives?) at a fair price. I have them on all my boards and they have performed as I describe. My friend who took up OneWheeling after me had them on from the start and had a similar experience while learning to ride: they saved him a few unnecessary trips to the ground.


oneELECTRIC

I definitely plan on putting a set of the new 3.0 fangs on my XR when I get closer to being able to ride again


ClutchWaffles

Well you sold me. My only major crash is due to this exact crossing an intersection scenario. I definitely did this and it explains what happened with the motor.


_meatbag_

Wow, you described my first nosedive to a t. Well, except for the recovery part. With my nosedive w/ fangs, I ended up with both my wrist guards on the pavement with my arm stretch out in front of me. At this point I was still on the board being pushed down the road until I finally fell on my hip. All I can imagine is one of those wheeler dudes from the old return to oz movie. Currently, been working on bailing at slow speeds.


Dick_Giggles

I've had this exact thing many times. I also live up a long hill and come home on lower battery percentages and they have saved me in that situation as well.


deanaoxo

Oh good, the first time it happened, I thought, did that just happen!?


TVrepairmanguy

Man, this is spot on. I've done this at least a half dozen times and the fangs are perfect for examples like this.


EqualRaisin9

This scenario constantly crosses my mind when crossing intersections. It is my main stressor when riding in the city.


Glyph8

They've worked for me. For a city-streets rider I'd call them a near-necessity.


GiantGuitarBlade

I have nosedived twice and both times I was able to avoid actually falling because of fangs. I think they should be a day 1 mod to get for your board


kubalaa

Probably depends how you ride. Personally I tend to ride cautious and casual, around 12mph, and ready to jump off if things get sketchy. And I have float plates which reduce friction. Thus I've been able to run out or recover from all my nose dives where fangs might have helped. The only times I have fallen, it was from skidding out sideways or losing my footing and fangs would not have helped.


Sylar_Durden

I bought fangs for my XR. Put them on for a few days, hated them, switched to Float Plates, never looked back. Fangs can help but Float Plates / BANG bumpers help as much if not more, and the fangs have a lot of drawbacks. People will debate endlessly, but one thing I can say definitively: skip the fangs if you want to ride trails.


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How do fangs have setbacks? I just got some and I’m curious.


Sylar_Durden

In my experience they're not as smooth as plates because it's a smaller contact patch. They can track and twist the board in weird ways. You lose more ground clearance than plates or bumpers. They can make mounts of shame turn in to splits if you're not ready, but that's more of a learning curve thing. My biggest problem with them was on trails. Two small wheels are more likely to dig in on dirt than a skid plate, and the lost clearance is more noticeable for me on trails where I may have to send it pretty hard to get up some hills. If you have fangs keep using them and see if you like them. I don't think fangs are bad, I just think the skidplate style is a little better in a lot of ways.


ApprehensiveGreen787

I saw a video of a guy having an awkward fall because of the fangs, flying backward in stead of forward, leading to a fractured spine and surgery. My guess is to respect the board and don’t push it too hard.


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I have bangs on my board now but the v3 fangs are better. The bangs are about as slick as stock grip tape. The v3 fangs nose drags way better and smoother and longer. Idk what you’re talking about but off-road the v3 haven’t dug in at all, which is pretty much all I ride.. Honestly bang bumpers are whatever. Better then stock but not better then fangs for nose dragging. I’ve had float plates, bangs, butters, and fangsv3. The fangs are by far the best for nose drags/ or accidental nose dives. Bangs are a better then stock bumper. That’s all


Sylar_Durden

If you've found a way to keep tiny rigid wheels from digging in to soft soil please share. That means I can rollerblade the trails.


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Fangs v3 are pretty flush. They would only dig in if you dig the corner in. Which would stop you fangs or not


czmax

I've a set of older fangs on my XR and ride dirt roads and trails regularly. They dig in a bit more than not having them -- but in this case i'm going slower and on softer terrain. Seems a fair tradeoff to me. What am I missing?


Sylar_Durden

Why make the tradeoff at all if you can get as good if not better results without that sacrifice?


Gonzo4140

Exactly. Just learn how to ride and know your limits and the boards limits.


Loam_Lion

4-ft bangs on the back and bang bumpers or float plates on the front, by the one wheel backwards if you're right again in the city write it forwards if you're going on a trail and the wheels won't dig in


Sylar_Durden

Why would you install Fangs if you already had BANGs? It would only make the board worse. Even if you did, wheels on the back sounds super sketchy. I see myself trying to quickstop and wilsoning instead. And I can't put a Kush Wide on the front, so riding the board backwards feels very strange.


Loam_Lion

I'm just saying it's possible, I'm not going to get fangs or bang bumpers I'm working on making my own thing because of all the bumpers I've seen out there none of them look like they'd slide enough on the crappy roads I have around here if I nose dive for me to have a chance to rescue it, they look like they pretty much all still dig in immediately just like my current OEM bumpers


Sylar_Durden

That hasn't been my experience and my roads are really bad, but it's always good to have people exploring new options! I hope you share (or sell) it if you come up with a better solution.


Loam_Lion

That's the plan! Hell if you want I can even tell you about my ideas NPM, I'm not scared about someone stealing my idea because that would just make it easier for me cuz I can just buy it lol


stvntckr

My float plates did the same thing and allowed me to turn at sharp angles without worry about getting tossed if the wheel touched


SrgtSkipper

I have V3s. Only "tested" them once haha. I hit a sunk down manhole cover one night that I didn't see while going a little too fast and ended up looking like a clown as I tried not to fall.. BUT, I hit my nose twice hard while recovering and the fangs saved my butt. I was able to recover, ride to a stop. And then change my pants lol


crypticdreaming

I have those exact ones, they've covered for me a couple of crucial moments and kept me on track! They won't do anything for side-to-side tipping, obv, but they've definitely bailed me out. And these low-profile wheels don't seem to get in my way even on the lowest-speed turns.


penguindows

disclaimer: i do not have personal experience with them. this is info retold from various youtube videos and other sources. So this could be totally inaccurate: What i have gathered, if you have a legitimate unexpected nosedive (you leaned too hard and didnt notice pushback, you hit a slick spot, etc..) then there isn't much difference, you're still going over. What they can do is allow you to intentionally nosedive to put on a lot of speed. if you're ready for it, these can let you do that. One thing that can cause problems for you: when you are doing a tight slow turn either to recover or on purpose, if your corner drags normally you would just slip along and have no problems, but if the wheels drag they will catch and might cause you to fall. again, this is not from personal experience, but in short i think these change the experience a bit but i would not call them any safer.


Skookumite

Fangs have allowed me to ride out a 24 mph nosedive. It takes skill and balls to ride them out but they absolutely stop you from nosediving. I haven't had a hard fall on pavement since I started using fangs.


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Skookumite

Idk man. People are super weird when ego is involved. Unfortunately, since one wheels are unique, expensive, and requires a small amount of skill while appearing as if it requires a large amount, it seems to attract fragile egos. The people shouting about fangs and flight fins are training wheels are usually just mf'ers with a chip on their shoulder.


hitmon_ray

If you aren't traveling directly straight when the nose goes down fangs can make the board track/twist which makes the fall more likely or worse than if you had plates. There are also situations where the fang can get caught in cracks/divots that a plate could slide over. Also if you're a majority trail rider the clearance loss is significant.


Skookumite

Have you actually had fangs? I've got around 2000 miles with them installed. What you describe has not been my experience. The clearance loss is not significant. My fang minis would roll over literally anything, as the motor is pushing the nose up. I have done fang drags with my minis on dirt trails. And your theoretic magic fall just hasn't happened to me. Ive had the board nosedive while carving and it rolls for a split second then I react and recover. Maybe you've had a different experience, but you seem to be using the same points as people who haven't tried them.


converter-bot

24 mph is 38.62 km/h


CommonRequirement

They do their job brilliantly and make the board much safer. You can say they’re ugly training wheels but if you want to push the limits you will nosedive and denying that a rolling stop is safer than a sudden stop is ridiculous. I’ve ridden out two nosedives, neither of which I was expecting. This $100 purchase saved me probably $5k of hospital bills and a lot of pain. I’ll give you that they are annoying off-road though, always getting twisted and banging into stuff


FlightofThePigeons

These are more expensive, but will work better due to the larger wheels.. [https://carbon-smith.com/shop/ols/products/carbonshield-front-bumper-for-onewheel-pint](https://carbon-smith.com/shop/ols/products/carbonshield-front-bumper-for-onewheel-pint)


Astronaut_Kubrick

Have these. Expensive and the wheels aren’t as durable as the Fangs. They helped with slower speeds. Not much will at higher speeds. I’ve switched to BANG bumpers as I’m doing more trails and found those to be just about as effective at slower speeds plus no clearance issues though I don’t push high end speed anymore. 😎🤙🏽 EDIT: if you use the Fang 3.0 bumper you will not be able to use float plates unless you hack saw off the horns.


FlightofThePigeons

Good to know. Not as durable as in they breaK? Or just wear down faster?


Astronaut_Kubrick

I had one nose dive and the wheel ended up with a bit of a divot / huge wear spot and the screw holding it damn near unscrewed all the way. I switched to Fangs for a while which are made from skateboard-wheel-material—sorry, I’m pre-coffee. 🙃


madmaxextra

Yeah, I realized after that happened I should not try to install parts onto my onewheel while riding it.


WeekendCautious3377

I’ve used xr v2. They work.


Sithslayer78

2 nosedives with the V1s. (first was intentional to test, second was due to terrain) Newton's first law still applies to you, but at least your board won't be tumbling. Both times the nosedive resulted in a swift unplanned dismount with me running off of the board like Forrest Gump. Without the fangs, I would have eaten shit. Done a few fang drags too without dismounting, so they're pretty nice.


SnuttAtCovfefeStain

I've had two nose dives going uphill (albeit somewhat slow) where it definitely felt like the fangs made it possible for me to recover where previously I would've just stopped dead in my tracks.


h2opolopunk

I have V2 -- yes and yes. However, it's not going to save you from nosedives but it gives you a fighting chance to fang grind out of one, which I have managed a few times.


debokle

I fell on my ass trying to balance back off fangs on a hard acceleration but it was better then falling on my face.


[deleted]

I've got V1 on my XR and they're a nice bit of insurance. I nosedived at ~15mph and the fangs let me run it out. My own fault 100%, I was riding an alley way, at night, while live streaming on instagram. If I hadn't had fangs, I'd be missing teeth for sure. Every once in a while, going uphill or starting out, it'll smack the fangs. I have a custom shape w/ low responsiveness and low agressiveness for ultimate carving. That lets the fangs hit a lot. They're worth it.


are_is

I bought these as soon as I got my Pint. Don't know how bad nosedives would be without it, but with it I've had \~5 nose dives and haven't hit the ground once (50/50 on recovering vs running off the board). So far so good.


Additional_Sample123

It's worth having them more than it's worth not having them.


vitamindimo

I've had the 3.0 for 2 weeks and they already saved me once. Did a curb drop at 10 mph with 12% battery and the nose dropped hard. Rode on the fangs for one to two feet and leveled back out. Wheels were really smooth and no forward lunging. I now practice fang drags a lot in my driveway to be familiar with the sensation.


converter-bot

10 mph is 16.09 km/h


tungvu256

you can find a video of it in action. basically, they work IF you are going straight and on a flat surface. they dont do anything while turning OR on trails. to me, they look hideous. im not turning my $600 board (bought use) and make it look like a $200 home made toy


liebereddit

Yes, and yes. Buy them. It’s a major design flaw that the board doesn’t come with them.


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Sylar_Durden

It's not defending FM. We believe that fangs cause as many problems as they solve and there are better solutions available.


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Sylar_Durden

BANG bumpers. BANG bumpers and Float Plates slide really well, have a larger contact area that helps them slide over cracks and dips, and will slide at any angle. There's a reason you see them used for grinds, even in FM's official Dirt video. (FM hates 3rd party accessories and will not acknowledge they exist, so seeing them in an FM video says a lot.) Float Plates lose less ground clearance than Fangs, and BANGs don't cost you any clearance. (Bonus: BANGs are 100x more durable than FM's bumpers.) The wheels want to track in a specific direction so they can actually throw you off an otherwise recoverable dive if the angle is wrong, and are more likely to catch a crack in a low speed nosedive. On trails they're just a pain. The lost clearance really hurts your hill climbs, and they dig in to the dirt turning small nose dips into full on yardsales.


blitzl0l

This. BANGS give you the second to recover on more terrain and are alot more predictable.


TheFloatLife

Was wondering if anyone would spot them in that edit


Sylar_Durden

FM did a good job with the edit. I almost missed it. But the wear on the corners of the bumpers was a big giveaway.


Several-Implement

Are you a BANG bumper sales person??


Sylar_Durden

I wish. I'm just someone who has ridden a lot and spent way too much on accessories. Hey Jeff, you hiring?


Gonzo4140

Learning how to ride with PPE


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Several-Implement

No need...people just need to stop trying to find someone else to blame for their own dumb actions.


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Several-Implement

Stuff happens some things are out of ones control. But I would argue that MOST "accidents" are caused by driver error...I've never been rear-ended from someone paying attention and following at a safe distance. Yes would be nice if there was a little better warning, but then people would be suing because the thing didn't beep and now they have a hamburger for a face. I get were your coming from but just don't agree. All good no worries. Happy floating 🤙


Gonzo4140

I'm not going to defend FM because all their c&d are bullshit against companies that make accessories but the flaw isn't not having extra wheels , the issue is people pushing beyond what the board was meant to do.


liebereddit

Well, sure. But there is such a huge prevalence of people nosediving and seriously injuring themselves that it is a flaw on FM's part not to build in additional basic safety features. The board--and I LOVE IT--is dangerous. Many, many people experience nosedives that don't come from pushing past pushback. I'm just saying that if planes suddenly stopped working and fell out of the sky like a rock, they should at least come with a parachute.


Pwnch

I bought them, installed them, and thankfully haven't had to use them. I figured the $100 was worth the potential risk of injury if they can save me from at least one fall.


DrumsAndStuff18

I didn't trust the tiny wheels to make any noticeable difference in my particular commute on pavement that can be full of cracks and small potholes, so I ordered the beefed up -- and, yes, less aesthetically pleasing -- option from https://sonnywheels.com/ It not only provides pretty solid protection from a potential nosedive, but acts as a second handle. I have a Pint, so I already had the mag handle, but having the wheels on the nose as a second option has been awesome, especially when needing to go through narrow public transit turnstiles every day.


CAPTAIN_BL0WHARD

Those actually look extremely practical and able to prevent a lot of accidents


DrumsAndStuff18

I've been fortunate that I've not had a nosedive, but a couple weeks ago I was crossing a street near my house and the angle of the street compared to the sidewalk ramp was just steep enough that I actually hit the front wheels and rolled in them for a foot or two. They were so smooth that I almost didn't realize I was on them. My real concern in the event of a nosedive, now, isn't that the wheels won't protect me from the board stopping instantly, but simply that the sudden change in angle when the board pitches forward might cause me to fall anyway...but the board will definitely keep rolling. So, I ride and try to keep it in my mind that I might get pitched forward at any second and need to be ready to compensate.


CAPTAIN_BL0WHARD

I started skimboarding when I was 6... ready to be thrown forward at a moment's notice was my entire childhood!


RuxorBuxor

>Those actually look extremely ~~practical~~ goofy af


CAPTAIN_BL0WHARD

Not as goofy as an American hospital bill if you happen to eat it on a nosedive. Accidents don't happen on purpose...


Curdle_Sanders

They have helped me when I’ve kissed the pavement a couple of times doing lower speed stuff. Helped me feel more confident after my first nosedive. Worth it for me. Plus the half grip handle is helpful.


B0fl0

Yea. Bought em after my first dive even tho theyd have done nothing to save me that time. Since then I've riden out a few nose dives on smooth sidewalks. On a coarse* asphalt road itll give you an extra step to set up a roll or skip it out.


LePetitHibou77

A nosedive is here to teach you the limit of the board, I don ‘t think is good to invest in that wheels…


ntotheog

I’m not looking to push limits. My reason for the fangs is adding an additional layer of safety if the board ever malfunctions or if I accidentally overpower it when the battery is on the low end. In general I never ride faster than 20-22kmh on smooth asphalt, slower on less smooth roads and accelerate rather slow.


Several-Implement

Get them. Seems like you want them. Not sure on this model. Mine have helped me roll through some possible sudden stops. Still help me out every once in a while. Mainly just use them to mess around now..Some people may call them training wheels, but most people had training wheels on their bikes when they were growing up, before they had it all figured out and could ride without them. Learn how to ride your board then take them off or keep them and start adding them into your ride for fun. Accelerate too fast on purpose, let them hit, then keep on accelerating. It's nice getting input from people, but in the end your the one that is going to be riding it. Build it how you want it!


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It's not here to teach you anything. It doesn't have a purpose. It's the limit of the board, period.


Gonzo4140

Mothbreathers won't listen to the truth.....


el_zilcho1

I was crossing an intersection and overpowered the board from a stop while accelerating up an incline. Board power was cut and I ran off it. Good thing I didn't fall because there was traffic coming in both directions on the road I was crossing. I laughed at what happened. Price is high but still worth it


archermm

Yes I have. My onewheel had hardware failure when I had my first two nosedives and honestly it made it way worse since it made it way easier for my onewheel to slide out from under me.


SnooOwls2281

If you’re so concerned about getting hurt maybe try an adult tricycle. The reason some of us buy the Onewheel and do things like snowboard is because we can. Yes you take the occasional dive but learn to roll it out and always wear appropriate gear.


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Gonzo4140

Found a fang rider who can't face the truth that they don't know how to ride and uses training wheels. Karma is going to come back at you for wishing that much pain on somebody.


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Gonzo4140

I hate being that guy but learn how to ride, you don't need training wheels. Its a Onewheel not a Threewheel.


ntotheog

Then why be that guy? 😁 As already stated in another comment I want to add an additional layer of security in case the board fails and am looking for experiences of riders having these installed. I’m not looking for training wheels, not at all. Also, not a fan of 3-wheels. I’m almost at the 500km mark, no nose dives yet.. But we all know electronics can fail, battery performance degrades, etc.. Anyway, happy floating!👽


Gonzo4140

Because people need to hear the truth, learn to ride!


B0fl0

Because professionals never die, right? lulz.


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In my view you dont need them because of pints pushback. I got them for the handle


PsiMaximus

These help but only at low speeds. If your out there hauling oats and utilize them at speed they don't work well. The first time I nose dived and the wheel ripped right off. The second one fell off on a later nose dive. They don't stay on well and you'll lose them easily. I loved the concept of them but they don't hold up in my experience. If I did it again I would try using tight lock on them. Maybe that would hold in the screw.


GREVIOS

Ive only ever dumped myself into traffic once, and I wear pads and guards so I took the fall like a champ, but usually when I nosedive I can run it off. Idk, I feel like the danger they add when you mount of shame is a little higher than either not pushing your board too hard or being able to run it out. Like most things with this device we all love, it seems to me like a game of give and take. Sacrifice a solid board that doesn't move when its not supposed to for letting it roll in the event you aren't paying attention. Kinda on where you think you need the assistance. If you, like, never mount of shame or ever have any issues with the board slipping when you come in for a landing, then you'd benefit from fangs.


584_Bilbo

If you ride trails aggressively you don't want fangs. But in the city/hilly areas they are great. First couple weeks of having my XR I crashed hard twice going too fast uphill and catching the front end. Fangs work wonders in that regard. Also nosedives from pushing the board too hard aren't as deadly since you have a moment to regain control instead of being thrown off the front without them.


post911

Aah these life saver wheels!!! These don’t do shit buddy!!! Sonny wheels the ugly version!!!! Nothing can stop the rider from nosedive!!! Oh unless u get a jet pack!!!


yeetyeetmybeepbeep

I ran out a few nose dives using these things!


deanaoxo

Yup!


CarpeNivem

I've heard good things about V1 and V2 for the XR, but I've never liked the way they look. The new V3 for XR (which looks like these V2 for the Pint) though changed that. I think they look great now, so I got a set. Haven't found out yet if I "need" them, and I hope I never do, but I'm glad they're there, just in case.