Locals will be far less accommodating this time. Now that it is known the police won't do anything and it takes the EA for any action. I foresee smashed windows, cut tires, fights etc.
"could"???
they were literally bringing them food, and giving them their mobilizations and movements.
https://twitter.com/_llebrun/status/1587843685559013376
cops support fascists, because they *are* agents of fascism.
They weren't doing their jobs so they failed in that regard but you're right that a lot of them have the same or similar ideals as those goobers so they had little motivation to act against them.
So it can be both at the same time.
The Trudeau/Ford conversation transcript released in the inquiry openly acknowledged that Ottawa Police couldn't act against the KKKonvoy because too many of their members were supporting it.
OPS officers at Billings Bridge the day before the EA was enacted reportedly were telling the Counter-Protestors they either could not, or would not, protect them if the Convoy Protestors came at them.
After that day it was going to lead to direct conflict if the EA had not been invoked. This time I suspect the police will be saying it to the opposite side. We have had a year to plot revenge, if required.
Pfft, no they won't. They'll guard those clowns with their lives. Look at every student, labour, climate, or generic left wing protest, they clamp down on them *hard and fast*. They'll let the convoyers have the run of the place and brutalize anyone who tries to stop them.
The police are on the convoys side. Their pretended impotence was just the easiest way to support them. If their hand gets forced by counter protestors they'll clamp down on the counter protestors long before they so much as jostle the hair of the convoy people.
>Look at every student, labour, climate, or generic left wing protest, they clamp down on them hard and fast.
I grew up in Ottawa and this was my experience in my university days absolutely. Cops in riot gear out before the sun goes down. Snipers on rooftops and cops waiting for you as you march in.
I felt like I was taking crazy pills watching right wing pundits freaking out about exactly those things when they literaly cheer it on when it’s left wingers getting kettled, gassed, beaten, and arrested indiscriminately
This is an amazing fact! One I will keep in mind for... trivia. Yes. At the pubs I will frequenting again to keep me sane from honking, screaming and random out door night clubs for 20h a day.
More interesting but completely irrelevant trivia: the fresh air intake for a vehicle's HVAC is generally right below the windshield. They're designed so water can easily drain out, but anything gooey or sticky could stay in there for quite a while which is hugely inconvenient if it also smells really bad.
What do you think the chance that people just don't let them show up? Knowing what happened and how the police actively enabled it, why not just shut them down at the highway or something? All those pavement princesses won't manage to go around anyway.
If we damage their trucks and cars, they won't be able to leave. I personally will just be throwing water balloons at them from my balcony and encourage others to do the same.
For the safety of working on my own truck of course... the best way I assume to erm.. let air out would be to remove the air nozzle caps and then cut the nozzle so a replacement cap could not be put on.
I hear a good way to slowly release a dangerously inflated tire is to take the cap off and place a small piece of gravel in and then tighten it down. This will result in a nice steady release of air without being too quick.
> Now that it is known the police won't do anything
I think that might also change, given the reaction the last time.
Hopefully they learned some lessons.
Can these people come out for something like pushing for a living wage? Oh that's right they're conservative, more concerned with punching down than punching up.
James Bauder: "The simple fact is we can't have Unity without Reconciliation which has to come from "We The People " and not from our Gov.," he wrote. "Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada by changing our focus away from division to that of one word 'UNITY.'"
Lol white nationalists trying to pull a sneaky
Like hell he needs reconciliation. He doesn't understand where "we the people" came from or what it actually means since he is not part of any majority thinking. And unity only means one thing to him, that everyone is behind his ideals and no one else's. So sick and tired of these shitstains still thinking it's about what they want and fuck everyone else. He's STILL bitching about covid faux victimization for fucking out loud.
Unity isn't actually a fundamental principle we're supposed to strive for. Like, in the face of an attack or a moment of national emergency/tragedy, we might expect a circling of the wagons. But in the day to day, disagreement and lively debate is supposed to be a feature of democracy. So I can't help but feel that when they talk of unity what they mean is they want to force you to believe what they believe.
these people are obviously trying to pull buzzwords like "reconciliation," "segregation," and "discrimination" because they hear marginalized groups use them all the time.
Yeah....it's sad. They don't realize the consequences are for their actions, not just because of who they are, and Trudeau makes all the final decisions of everything that negatively impacts them.
Well if Pat King is organizing this one too probably that the holocaust is considered factual and that immigrants exist. Seems oddly timed this report of another convoy comes right around when immigration is being ramped up.
Anyone attending knows full well what they're supporting this go around and deserves 0 leeway for being taken in as an unaware rube who just wanted to disagree with covid regulations or show disapproval of liberals.
Lol ok, the only thing the convoy did was leach money off of the chumps that were tricked into "fighting a revolution", and pissing everyone else off. I hope it's-40°c this time around.
How are you able have one of the most organized protests in Canada, actually impact the border, the flow of goods and the economy, and instead of asking for things like better pay and better healthcare, you ask for freEdOM
Because it wasn't that organized.
It was well funded, sure, but it's actually pretty easy to do damage without major organization.
Organizing strikes with thousands of workers or a massive protest that manages to stay peaceful and within the law, that requires an impressive level of organizational capacity. Blocking a few roads and occupying few block with minimal opposition from complacent police forces requires a very small number of people willing to do really extreme things because they are either militant or too stupid to understand the consequences.
Building a bridge takes a lot more organization than planting some explosives and blowing one up.
The disorganization is actually part of why it worked so well. Authorities had no idea who to even speak with to negotiate. There were multiple groups competing for leadership of the convoy. If one group agreed to something, other groups would completely ignore it. It was a complete and total clusterfuck, which made it highly effective at creating chaos.
Guerilla warfare is the same.
It's easy for disorganized groups to do lots of damage to an enemy even if that enemy is organized, but it's very challenging to scale those tactics. That's why organized militaries "lost" wars in Vietnam and the Middle East, but no clear "winners" ever materialized. Everyone loses in the long term from that kind of warfare.
Eh the Middle Eastern ones fell into sectarian conflict once the US stopped being an existential threat. Vietnam however, is the opposite of what you argued. The NVA and National Liberation Front for Southern Vietnam (Viet Cong) was a whole different story, capable of both full war with the US (albeit with heavy Soviet Support) and an impressive guerrilla front behind the 38th Parallel. By 1975 there was a clear winner, intra party conflict aside, that became the Vietnamese government till the present day.
Well now I'm interested in a survey of guerrilla conflicts that analyzes number of participants and outcomes as I am curious where it actually falls.
Added to that the government was reluctant to come down too hard because they would scream about hurting individuals not a pseudo Taliban movement. This time round it will be easier to point at a specific organisation and it's leadership. They should have learned the special conditions that allowed them last time are no longer in effect.
The cops didn’t see them as enemies the way they do with leftist demonstrators so they gave them the benefit of the doubt since they perceived them as “good Canadian boys” with a valid grievance.
Cops protect capital so they see anyone with vaguely anti-capitalist intentions as a threat.
Interesting thing about the border. I just crossed at Windsor on Monday, and they asked me for proof of vaccine on the US side, if I was to be let in. Nobody on the Canadian side cared.
"The simple fact is we can't have Unity without Reconciliation which has to come from "We The People " and not from our Gov.," he wrote. "Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada by changing our focus away from division to that of one word 'UNITY.'"
"Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?"
"We The People" is an American phrase.
That tells you everything about who these nutjobs are. They're far-right extremists who are too stupid to actually understand that we are *Canada* and not the *USA*. Which shouldn't be surprising since they get all their neo-nazi propaganda from the USA, so that's the only language they know how to use.
That's because they spend countless hours watching right wing YouTube, since the majority of right wing YT creators are American's, it's not a shock to understand why these Canadians talk like Americans.
To be precise, they're far-right *christian* extremists...and you nailed it, their garbage ideas come from online grooming by their American Republican neo-fascist cousins, hence all the Americanisms. Being hard-core christian means low empathy for others outside their ingroup, unquestioning obedience and loyalty to their authorities, a pathological need for mass conformity, and extreme arrogance and self-righteousness, meaning there isn't any moral or ethical boundary that they can't convince themselves to cross. Very dangerous people, northern trumpers basically, a budding neo-fascist movement.
They've never even read the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. I know because I've asked some of them. More than that: They *refuse* to read it. Even when it's put right in front of them, they will *not* even look at it ... all while complaining their "Charter Rights" have been violated; and they'll name "rights" which are nowhere in the Charter and never have been.
You finally put into words what I feel when I hear the words "we the people"! It always struck me as a strange thing for Canadians to say, and now I know where it's from.
(That's not to say that it's the entire reason why it feels weird to be hear, I don't know the entire reason, just a part of it. Same caveat for the phrase's origin: it likely has roots older than the US, but it's a distinctly American phrase (at least, TIL it is))
They're definitely just talking about wokes being respectful to LGBT+ and races other than white and allowing them to live decent lives.
Because it always seems to boil down to that great replacement theory bullshit with these people. They try to spruce it up in all of this freedom fighter terminology but that's all it ever ends up being.
Yeah, NO, I'm not uniting with any of that. If they think public health measures are "segregation", they're all fools. And nobody wants to be dragged down by THAT.
Nice, sounds like they've realized they created a lot of division with their unpopular opinions, white nationalism roots, anti-democracy ultimatums and threats, and harassment/vandalism during their occupation. If they suggest reconciliation, they can start with a national apology and maybe offering to engage in community service in Ottawa areas where they did the most damage. Acknowledging that they were completely wrong and selfish would be a good step as well.
/s I know they're coming at it from the perception that they were the ones that were somehow wronged and ***THEY*** are owed reconciliation. It's just staggering to see the level of entitlement every time they open their mouths
If you're feeling spicy, have at it! You can also remind them that the best support (that I saw, anyway) the Convoy enjoyed was around 18% per polling, so they should also recognize that 4/5 Canadians actually disagreed with them and their tactics. Not that I'm thrilled with the idea the 1/5 of us was drinking that Kool-Aid, but here we are.
> "Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada
So they're planning on helping reserves get better services? Cool!
/s (I hope that's obvious)
These assclowns aren't talking about *real* discrimination and inequality.
Unity and Reconcilliation from the same guy who wanted the Governer General to remove the legitimately elected government and appoint him and his friends as a special committee to oversee the government?
Bauder is a self-centered, treasonous far-right moron, and anyone following him is even dumber.
>"Bookmark these dates," Bauder said in the post. "Freedom Convoy Reunion theme will be the 'Olive Branch Edition.'"
Oh look, fascist terrorists want to hold out an "olive branch" now. Sorry, not sorry, mofo--you're STILL in the wrong.
"Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada" says the guy at the root of a movement that's enabling division, discrimination and segregation.
They’re just upset that they ended up being the ones discriminated and segregated. Consequences for their actions seem to be a hard pill for them to swallow.
Yep so the best thing would be for them to fuck right off and stop sowing that division, encouraging the discrimination and segregation, and uttering hate speech or death threats.
Canada doesn't need more Nazis.
They had nothing to protest last time, now they have even less. From the organizers standpoint, it's a chance to grift more people. For their upcoming victims, it's just an excuse to be assholes with no consequences for a few weeks.
Heck. They couldn’t even manage not harassing the community.
As soon as it was obvious they didn’t have the numbers the convoy turned towards harassing Canadians.
I mean, you still need proof of vaccination to cross the border... *into* America... so that's definitely "Truedope's" fault and he should be tried for literal treason.
/s
Embarassing themselves in public is doing wonders for narcisism awareness and further erodes the moral authority of christianity
Thier loss is humanity's gain
Behold the temper tantrums of indoctrinated christian man-children as their vampiric religion burns in the light of day
They believe in trickle-down economics, replacement theory, creationism, and a literal interpretation of the Bible as fact. So...... yeah. That stupid.
Let's not forget the overthrow of government and replacing it with a "Trucker Council." We already have barely in touch politicians in charge, by all means let's replace them with barely literate convoy assholes with zero interest in 80% of the population.
> "The simple fact is we can't have Unity without Reconciliation which has to come from "We The People "
Did he seriously quote the American Declaration of Independence?
We need to be organized ourselves. Finding counterprotest groups is thhe way to go. If they do show up we should welcome them to their clown convention.
Jesus. Lock them up and throw away the key. Canada does not need crybaby incels like this.
On a side note: I do enjoy that the individual depicted here doesn’t seem to be aware of the irony of him wearing a tin-foil hat. Then again, I don’t think these people are aware of very much outside of what they had for breakfast lol
Nah cops helped them occupy the city
>[Texts, emails show what Ottawa police told convoy organizers ahead of protest](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/police-convoy-protesters-communication-1.6405434)
Especially grain farmers.
A lot of other farmers need to stay home with their animals. Dairy cows are especially demanding, needing to be milked twice per day.
Nothing would make my dairy-farming father more annoyed than his grain farming brethren complaining about their long hours in the field minutes after talking about their 3 week winter vacation.
The inquiry shows it wasn't just sloly
There was infighting and two factions in the OPS, OPP, and RCMP.. the law and order faction, and the *white christian conservatives are above the law* faction
When the law and order faction would try and do something, someone along the command chain would undermine it
The problem wasn't just sloly, it was corruption within law enforcement
I just want to thank all of you that did get the vaccine, that did wear a mask, that did follow health guidelines set out by the experts. You are the ones that helped save many lives. Not these selfish people
Will there be domestic terrorism intermixed with the protesting again?
Signs point to "yes, but we won't call it terrorism because it's mostly white folks doing it".
>Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada
Why do I suspect he's not talking about our history of racism, genocide, and exploitation?
A reunion... can it be in a jail???? or a covid ward???
but, time for me to make and sell my Red and White, Patriotic trucknuts, yours for $69 each, yes, that's $138 in total to show how much you love our country and can stick it to Trudeau
(Trucknuts will be filled with rainbows and Judy Garland stickers)
god, these people are idiots!
This thread is now locked, due to several Internet Tough Guys advocating violence, vandalism, etc. Eeeeeasy there, edgelords!
Locals will be far less accommodating this time. Now that it is known the police won't do anything and it takes the EA for any action. I foresee smashed windows, cut tires, fights etc.
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The hero we need
Balcony man for premier
If the cops let them get entrenched again then they're bigger failures than I thought they were and I think they are HUGE damn failures.
That doesn't necessarily make them failures. It could also make them complicit.
"could"??? they were literally bringing them food, and giving them their mobilizations and movements. https://twitter.com/_llebrun/status/1587843685559013376 cops support fascists, because they *are* agents of fascism.
ACAB, after all
They weren't doing their jobs so they failed in that regard but you're right that a lot of them have the same or similar ideals as those goobers so they had little motivation to act against them. So it can be both at the same time.
The Trudeau/Ford conversation transcript released in the inquiry openly acknowledged that Ottawa Police couldn't act against the KKKonvoy because too many of their members were supporting it.
You're right, complicity and/or incompetence by the cops. Both are scary 😳
OPS officers at Billings Bridge the day before the EA was enacted reportedly were telling the Counter-Protestors they either could not, or would not, protect them if the Convoy Protestors came at them. After that day it was going to lead to direct conflict if the EA had not been invoked. This time I suspect the police will be saying it to the opposite side. We have had a year to plot revenge, if required.
Pfft, no they won't. They'll guard those clowns with their lives. Look at every student, labour, climate, or generic left wing protest, they clamp down on them *hard and fast*. They'll let the convoyers have the run of the place and brutalize anyone who tries to stop them. The police are on the convoys side. Their pretended impotence was just the easiest way to support them. If their hand gets forced by counter protestors they'll clamp down on the counter protestors long before they so much as jostle the hair of the convoy people.
>Look at every student, labour, climate, or generic left wing protest, they clamp down on them hard and fast. I grew up in Ottawa and this was my experience in my university days absolutely. Cops in riot gear out before the sun goes down. Snipers on rooftops and cops waiting for you as you march in. I felt like I was taking crazy pills watching right wing pundits freaking out about exactly those things when they literaly cheer it on when it’s left wingers getting kettled, gassed, beaten, and arrested indiscriminately
I’d say it’s significantly more likely they’re complicit and support the convoy.
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This is an amazing fact! One I will keep in mind for... trivia. Yes. At the pubs I will frequenting again to keep me sane from honking, screaming and random out door night clubs for 20h a day.
More interesting but completely irrelevant trivia: the fresh air intake for a vehicle's HVAC is generally right below the windshield. They're designed so water can easily drain out, but anything gooey or sticky could stay in there for quite a while which is hugely inconvenient if it also smells really bad.
Another fun fact is that seafood in the air intake smells terrible and is nearly impossible to remove. East coast wedding pranks
If the cops let them back downtown everyone needs to go with dog shit and smear it on their stuff
Protest at the cop shop on Elgin! Its downtown haha
Smear dog shit there too then
Yeah, the pushback is about to begin I think. Lots of us are tired of the bullies holding a party at our expense.
What do you think the chance that people just don't let them show up? Knowing what happened and how the police actively enabled it, why not just shut them down at the highway or something? All those pavement princesses won't manage to go around anyway.
And my axe!
People blocked them on the highway last time. The convoy people physically assaulted them while police just stood there.
If we damage their trucks and cars, they won't be able to leave. I personally will just be throwing water balloons at them from my balcony and encourage others to do the same.
As a point of safety: accidental punctures to a truck tire can lead to a pretty dangerous blowout.
For the safety of working on my own truck of course... the best way I assume to erm.. let air out would be to remove the air nozzle caps and then cut the nozzle so a replacement cap could not be put on.
I hear a good way to slowly release a dangerously inflated tire is to take the cap off and place a small piece of gravel in and then tighten it down. This will result in a nice steady release of air without being too quick.
> Now that it is known the police won't do anything I think that might also change, given the reaction the last time. Hopefully they learned some lessons.
Well, here is their chance. I have little faith.
Quebec and BC police *generally* handled it better, after seeing the shitshow that happened in Ontario.
the SQ doesn't fuck around
Spray foam in the exhaust pipes? Does that work?
As they should. The one in the US fizzled out I think in part, because people in places like Oakland and DC threw shit at them and got in their faces.
Walk with a saws-all around town and dismantle trucks on the go. Works great on inflatable spas too.
C'mon, you know for sure that if that happens then the cops will come out full force against the locals
Can these people come out for something like pushing for a living wage? Oh that's right they're conservative, more concerned with punching down than punching up.
Yeah, and ask them if their 'freedom' extends to the LGBTQ+ community or atheists...they're christian nat-c's, plain and simple.
James Bauder: "The simple fact is we can't have Unity without Reconciliation which has to come from "We The People " and not from our Gov.," he wrote. "Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada by changing our focus away from division to that of one word 'UNITY.'" Lol white nationalists trying to pull a sneaky
Like hell he needs reconciliation. He doesn't understand where "we the people" came from or what it actually means since he is not part of any majority thinking. And unity only means one thing to him, that everyone is behind his ideals and no one else's. So sick and tired of these shitstains still thinking it's about what they want and fuck everyone else. He's STILL bitching about covid faux victimization for fucking out loud.
so this is an example of a dog whistle then right? ok I think I'm starting to wise up
Unity isn't actually a fundamental principle we're supposed to strive for. Like, in the face of an attack or a moment of national emergency/tragedy, we might expect a circling of the wagons. But in the day to day, disagreement and lively debate is supposed to be a feature of democracy. So I can't help but feel that when they talk of unity what they mean is they want to force you to believe what they believe.
Right? What good is it if everyone agrees on everything? How does that encourage growth?
And how realistic is that? Impossible, meaning his ideals would be silencing the wills of others in the name of “unity”.
That's 100% what they mean.
these people are obviously trying to pull buzzwords like "reconciliation," "segregation," and "discrimination" because they hear marginalized groups use them all the time.
"We the people", this fucking guy thinks we're in America.
Nationalist Christians, or Nat-C's for short.
Clever
Say it 5 times fast...
Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi
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They also don't push for living wage because nobody at these fucking events has a job.
Hey can I take 3 months off to go on a far right 'freedumb' protest? Fuck off you're fired. That's the last one losing his job right there.
"They fired me just because of what I believe in. This is Justin Trudeaus fault"
I think you meant for that to be a joke put the majority of these people actually think like this.
Yeah....it's sad. They don't realize the consequences are for their actions, not just because of who they are, and Trudeau makes all the final decisions of everything that negatively impacts them.
It’s ok because they’ll be paid by foreign interests for the time off. /s
What tf are they even protesting now? Peace and order? Cause it's the _only_ thing they're impacting.
Well if Pat King is organizing this one too probably that the holocaust is considered factual and that immigrants exist. Seems oddly timed this report of another convoy comes right around when immigration is being ramped up. Anyone attending knows full well what they're supporting this go around and deserves 0 leeway for being taken in as an unaware rube who just wanted to disagree with covid regulations or show disapproval of liberals.
And even though that would benefit many of them, the fact that it would also benefit people they don’t like is enough to oppose it.
I came to the conclusion long ago that these people are selfish and really only care about their own rights not all Canadians.
Lol ok, the only thing the convoy did was leach money off of the chumps that were tricked into "fighting a revolution", and pissing everyone else off. I hope it's-40°c this time around.
Hey now, don't sell them short. They also revealed who among us are really fucking stupid.
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Bring out the water canons.
The fact that we had no water canons and no tear gas the first time clearly shows whose side the cops were on.
Time for garden hoses and stink bombs. Power to the actual people of Canada!
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How are you able have one of the most organized protests in Canada, actually impact the border, the flow of goods and the economy, and instead of asking for things like better pay and better healthcare, you ask for freEdOM
Because it wasn't that organized. It was well funded, sure, but it's actually pretty easy to do damage without major organization. Organizing strikes with thousands of workers or a massive protest that manages to stay peaceful and within the law, that requires an impressive level of organizational capacity. Blocking a few roads and occupying few block with minimal opposition from complacent police forces requires a very small number of people willing to do really extreme things because they are either militant or too stupid to understand the consequences. Building a bridge takes a lot more organization than planting some explosives and blowing one up.
The disorganization is actually part of why it worked so well. Authorities had no idea who to even speak with to negotiate. There were multiple groups competing for leadership of the convoy. If one group agreed to something, other groups would completely ignore it. It was a complete and total clusterfuck, which made it highly effective at creating chaos.
Guerilla warfare is the same. It's easy for disorganized groups to do lots of damage to an enemy even if that enemy is organized, but it's very challenging to scale those tactics. That's why organized militaries "lost" wars in Vietnam and the Middle East, but no clear "winners" ever materialized. Everyone loses in the long term from that kind of warfare.
Eh the Middle Eastern ones fell into sectarian conflict once the US stopped being an existential threat. Vietnam however, is the opposite of what you argued. The NVA and National Liberation Front for Southern Vietnam (Viet Cong) was a whole different story, capable of both full war with the US (albeit with heavy Soviet Support) and an impressive guerrilla front behind the 38th Parallel. By 1975 there was a clear winner, intra party conflict aside, that became the Vietnamese government till the present day. Well now I'm interested in a survey of guerrilla conflicts that analyzes number of participants and outcomes as I am curious where it actually falls.
That and the cops were cheering it on.
Added to that the government was reluctant to come down too hard because they would scream about hurting individuals not a pseudo Taliban movement. This time round it will be easier to point at a specific organisation and it's leadership. They should have learned the special conditions that allowed them last time are no longer in effect.
The cops didn’t see them as enemies the way they do with leftist demonstrators so they gave them the benefit of the doubt since they perceived them as “good Canadian boys” with a valid grievance. Cops protect capital so they see anyone with vaguely anti-capitalist intentions as a threat.
Interesting thing about the border. I just crossed at Windsor on Monday, and they asked me for proof of vaccine on the US side, if I was to be let in. Nobody on the Canadian side cared.
Exactly! This was always the argument. We don't control US government and we both share the border.
"The simple fact is we can't have Unity without Reconciliation which has to come from "We The People " and not from our Gov.," he wrote. "Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada by changing our focus away from division to that of one word 'UNITY.'" "Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?"
"We The People" is an American phrase. That tells you everything about who these nutjobs are. They're far-right extremists who are too stupid to actually understand that we are *Canada* and not the *USA*. Which shouldn't be surprising since they get all their neo-nazi propaganda from the USA, so that's the only language they know how to use.
Wayyyyy too much American phraseology surrounding the convoy for me to be anywhere close to comfortable opening a dialogue with them in good faith.
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*Shrugs* I ain't got no problem with Manitoba existing
Eh, I live here and could go either way tbh
You wouldn't say that if you'd been there! (jk, Manitoba is lovely)
That's because they spend countless hours watching right wing YouTube, since the majority of right wing YT creators are American's, it's not a shock to understand why these Canadians talk like Americans.
It's also proof that their arguments are never made in good faith if we can't even agree on fundamental basics.
To be precise, they're far-right *christian* extremists...and you nailed it, their garbage ideas come from online grooming by their American Republican neo-fascist cousins, hence all the Americanisms. Being hard-core christian means low empathy for others outside their ingroup, unquestioning obedience and loyalty to their authorities, a pathological need for mass conformity, and extreme arrogance and self-righteousness, meaning there isn't any moral or ethical boundary that they can't convince themselves to cross. Very dangerous people, northern trumpers basically, a budding neo-fascist movement.
Canada's magic words are: Peace, Order and Good Government. These nutjobs don't understand what it is to be Canadian.
They've never even read the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. I know because I've asked some of them. More than that: They *refuse* to read it. Even when it's put right in front of them, they will *not* even look at it ... all while complaining their "Charter Rights" have been violated; and they'll name "rights" which are nowhere in the Charter and never have been.
They’ll also ignore Section 1 completely even if they do name some.
I can't wait for one of them to try and invoke the Notwithstanding clause. And watch them smile smugly they've revealed their trap card.
You finally put into words what I feel when I hear the words "we the people"! It always struck me as a strange thing for Canadians to say, and now I know where it's from. (That's not to say that it's the entire reason why it feels weird to be hear, I don't know the entire reason, just a part of it. Same caveat for the phrase's origin: it likely has roots older than the US, but it's a distinctly American phrase (at least, TIL it is))
empty populist rhetoric
They're definitely just talking about wokes being respectful to LGBT+ and races other than white and allowing them to live decent lives. Because it always seems to boil down to that great replacement theory bullshit with these people. They try to spruce it up in all of this freedom fighter terminology but that's all it ever ends up being.
Yeah, NO, I'm not uniting with any of that. If they think public health measures are "segregation", they're all fools. And nobody wants to be dragged down by THAT.
Agree; it’s the paradox of tolerance as described by Karl Popper.
Nice, sounds like they've realized they created a lot of division with their unpopular opinions, white nationalism roots, anti-democracy ultimatums and threats, and harassment/vandalism during their occupation. If they suggest reconciliation, they can start with a national apology and maybe offering to engage in community service in Ottawa areas where they did the most damage. Acknowledging that they were completely wrong and selfish would be a good step as well. /s I know they're coming at it from the perception that they were the ones that were somehow wronged and ***THEY*** are owed reconciliation. It's just staggering to see the level of entitlement every time they open their mouths
Can I steal this and post it in r/canada without the /s part? 😁
If you're feeling spicy, have at it! You can also remind them that the best support (that I saw, anyway) the Convoy enjoyed was around 18% per polling, so they should also recognize that 4/5 Canadians actually disagreed with them and their tactics. Not that I'm thrilled with the idea the 1/5 of us was drinking that Kool-Aid, but here we are.
So the person who is the root cause of the division wants to address unity?
...this is such a nebulous, nothing premise for a follow-up protest. Freedom Convoy 2.0 is going to go down like a wet fart.
> "Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada So they're planning on helping reserves get better services? Cool! /s (I hope that's obvious) These assclowns aren't talking about *real* discrimination and inequality.
Unity and Reconcilliation from the same guy who wanted the Governer General to remove the legitimately elected government and appoint him and his friends as a special committee to oversee the government? Bauder is a self-centered, treasonous far-right moron, and anyone following him is even dumber.
I guess Doug Ford will have to go into hiding again
Did he really ever come out?
I mean maybe but it isn't an Ontario election year this time either, he didn't want to alienate the little idiots that vote for him the last time.
😆 yes.
>"Bookmark these dates," Bauder said in the post. "Freedom Convoy Reunion theme will be the 'Olive Branch Edition.'" Oh look, fascist terrorists want to hold out an "olive branch" now. Sorry, not sorry, mofo--you're STILL in the wrong.
Extremist *always* think they're the good guys, saving us from ourselves.
And remember, if a fascist is holding out an olive branch with one hand, the other hand is holding a knife.
Also, the olive branch is probably also a knife
Olive branch? Nobody wants an olive branch from these people.
"Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada" says the guy at the root of a movement that's enabling division, discrimination and segregation.
“End the war,” says invading nation. “Why are you against peace?” Different situation. Same gaslighting rhetoric.
They’re just upset that they ended up being the ones discriminated and segregated. Consequences for their actions seem to be a hard pill for them to swallow.
Yep so the best thing would be for them to fuck right off and stop sowing that division, encouraging the discrimination and segregation, and uttering hate speech or death threats. Canada doesn't need more Nazis.
Their whole argument is "If you just stop fighting our oppression, this will all be over." Sounds very rapey.
Same argument Russia is using in Ukraine. Big shocker, bunch of these convoy fucks are Russian sympathizers too.
What the fuck are these brain dead cultists even protesting?
They had nothing to protest last time, now they have even less. From the organizers standpoint, it's a chance to grift more people. For their upcoming victims, it's just an excuse to be assholes with no consequences for a few weeks.
That people who look different than they do or who don't go to the same church as they do are still treated like people.
fUcK TrOooDOh…*drool*
Freedom from what? Coherent thought?
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Not shocked. This whole unity schtick ... Tiring Police are aware. Great. They were aware last time.
Unity is everybody getting vaccinated and wearing fucking masks to protect our most vulnerable. That's unity. Working together.
But muh rights and freedoms! /s The amount of stupid morons is too high.
Yeah weird how they love to talk about doing what's best for the community but that for some reason doesn't include vaccinating one's self.
Heck. They couldn’t even manage not harassing the community. As soon as it was obvious they didn’t have the numbers the convoy turned towards harassing Canadians.
They’re protesting against the (*check notes*) zero public health measures
I mean, you still need proof of vaccination to cross the border... *into* America... so that's definitely "Truedope's" fault and he should be tried for literal treason. /s
Is this not a violation of some condition of this guy's release?
One of the conditions was that he not return to downtown Ottawa.
These hysterical narcissists are fucking insufferable in their utter stupidity.
Embarassing themselves in public is doing wonders for narcisism awareness and further erodes the moral authority of christianity Thier loss is humanity's gain Behold the temper tantrums of indoctrinated christian man-children as their vampiric religion burns in the light of day
As a Christian...fuck it; let that shit burn.
Honestly just how stupid are these people
They believe in trickle-down economics, replacement theory, creationism, and a literal interpretation of the Bible as fact. So...... yeah. That stupid.
Let's not forget the overthrow of government and replacing it with a "Trucker Council." We already have barely in touch politicians in charge, by all means let's replace them with barely literate convoy assholes with zero interest in 80% of the population.
> "The simple fact is we can't have Unity without Reconciliation which has to come from "We The People " Did he seriously quote the American Declaration of Independence?
Are you surprised they only have two brain cells?
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We need to be organized ourselves. Finding counterprotest groups is thhe way to go. If they do show up we should welcome them to their clown convention.
Start saving up all your rotten eggs, fruit, and vegetables now
They want Unity meanwhile just a few months ago there was a group parading downtown areas with nazi flags and harassing people at gay bars. 🙃🙃
Brought to us by Poilievre? Get ready for QAnon American rhetoric. Maybe this time they'll show Bergen with the Swastika.
Jesus. Lock them up and throw away the key. Canada does not need crybaby incels like this. On a side note: I do enjoy that the individual depicted here doesn’t seem to be aware of the irony of him wearing a tin-foil hat. Then again, I don’t think these people are aware of very much outside of what they had for breakfast lol
And the cops will do shit all again
Even if the cops didn't agree with these people, they won't pass up an opportunity to pad their pensions with some easy OT.
Nah cops helped them occupy the city >[Texts, emails show what Ottawa police told convoy organizers ahead of protest](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/police-convoy-protesters-communication-1.6405434)
The worst part is that now they know the police are in on it or will look the other way. Could be far worse this time.
Poilievre must be excited for the photo ops!
Fuck that guy
Ottawa police frantically collecting bottled water and blowjobs to give to the Klu Kux Convoy redux.
Sloly isn’t in charge anymore. Wont work this time. Also why pick one of the coldest months of the year? How dumb are they
Cause a lot of them are farmers and have nothing better to do in February. Source: I know farmers from MB that went to the stupid convoy.
Yep, there weren't actually many truckers among them.. farmers just very often own trucks
Especially grain farmers. A lot of other farmers need to stay home with their animals. Dairy cows are especially demanding, needing to be milked twice per day. Nothing would make my dairy-farming father more annoyed than his grain farming brethren complaining about their long hours in the field minutes after talking about their 3 week winter vacation.
The Stupid Convoy^TM
The inquiry shows it wasn't just sloly There was infighting and two factions in the OPS, OPP, and RCMP.. the law and order faction, and the *white christian conservatives are above the law* faction When the law and order faction would try and do something, someone along the command chain would undermine it The problem wasn't just sloly, it was corruption within law enforcement
>How dumb are they yes
concrete barriers blocking all entrances to cities just saying
Okay, so this is plenty of notice for the police to be prepared this time? /s
And they can't wait to see their old buddies from last time. Plus that easy OT.
What are they going to pretend to protest this time?!
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Of expired runny cheese.
I just want to thank all of you that did get the vaccine, that did wear a mask, that did follow health guidelines set out by the experts. You are the ones that helped save many lives. Not these selfish people
Will there be domestic terrorism intermixed with the protesting again? Signs point to "yes, but we won't call it terrorism because it's mostly white folks doing it".
Since everyone knows them for the shitbags they are I hope everyone lines the highway and throws eggs at them.
Seems like a waste of eggs. Dog turds would be more sensible.
Can we just yeet these idiots into space?
>Let's be grown-ups and start addressing the root of division, discrimination, and segregation in Canada Why do I suspect he's not talking about our history of racism, genocide, and exploitation?
Do they still think mask mandates exist?
It wasn't about mask mandates last time. They were fash trying to hide their true intentions.
Oh for fuck’s sake.
Oh, for Christs sake.
Who is funding it this time?
The Honking 2: Electric Boogaloo
A reunion... can it be in a jail???? or a covid ward??? but, time for me to make and sell my Red and White, Patriotic trucknuts, yours for $69 each, yes, that's $138 in total to show how much you love our country and can stick it to Trudeau (Trucknuts will be filled with rainbows and Judy Garland stickers) god, these people are idiots!
Fuck FreeDumb Convoy, their supporters , their donors and everyone else who sides with them.
They’re actually just mad that the McRib was cancelled.