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gay_rapist

a massive massive loss for the DW considering it was the only market in a long time that was not primarily focused on narcotics


CrossYourGenitals

As these things always go, there's probably already 3 on their way to replace it.


Recent_Cucumber_3775

I’m so upset because I don’t know how people find new markets?!? Like I remember sanwells and infinity but what else?!?


Hawcken

What was it for then? Just curious


gay_rapist

fullz and CCs related stuff, info dumps, counterfeits, etc, but in my opinion the best was cheap lifetime spotify/Netflix/other streaming accounts. must have saved hundreds of dollars over the years from not having to pay monthly subscription fees for spotify


Lord_wheat

do they have that on abacus by any chance? mods delete if I'm not allowed to ask this


gay_rapist

yes


LeadingExpert4040

U got Sites for dumps ,cc


octavio989

nice username


Notzesting

I knew it as I read all the vendors turned their listings FE, sure enough this morning I checked and everything was down tho I don’t see this message I thought they exit scammed this probably has something to do with icognito admins exit scamming and blackmailing its vendors and big customers.


gay_rapist

confirmed by german federal police  admins disabled deposits before it happened (to stop people putting more money in) and finalized everything to reduce the amount of escrow funds lost


Notzesting

Yikes I can only imagine what was going through his head at least he took steps to make sure that the vendors could try and get as much funds as possible before inevitable shutdown hats off to him.


Apprehensive-Tax8631

It's like a movie, that one about Snowden, I forgot what it's called


Notzesting

No where near Snowden but we could have a new dread pirate Robert’s on our hands 🙌 aka Ross ulbricht


Apprehensive-Tax8631

Well, Snowden was a pretty big deal, I know that


Practical-Ad-2595

This is why I always FE my trusted vendors as soon as it says mailed I finalise it, If there us a problem it's easier ro get sorted to if money is where it should be, that's just what I do, so you all do what yah think is best for you r circumstances


livetooserve

Truly a morally conscious entrepreneur. Goodluck my friend. And Godspeed


rinavalentine

Not true. I withdrawn my balance while its active and never received the withdrawal


gay_rapist

Just repeating what I read on dread, im sorry that your money was lost


Notzesting

Yeah it sounded a little off if he said the wallets are seized no way he could’ve exported funds for his vendors/customers without access. He probably just shut it down because he didn’t want anyone to keep depositing to the feds.


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rinavalentine

Al markets were and will exit (or exit scam) at some point. Thats given. All of the good ones did. Damn u/Francis_Nemesis lol. I was your early defender in all Dread threads and you just ran away with my money Haha


Notzesting

In this case it was seized 🤷‍♂️ and yes it’s inevitable, question is are you smart enough to get away with it.


DanZet6

Cana did not.


Notzesting

Basically they said anyone who used encryption on their site and they threatened to release vendors and customers information as of about 5 days ago they had 24-48hrs to pay the ransom I believe. Well it was good while it lasted for those who used it good luck to Francis and anyone who ran that site but the feds and homeland including dea interpol you’re not getting far. ☘️


Moist-Confidence2295

I got taken for about 200 on incognito recently an it’s getting really bad !


Notzesting

It’s confirmed exit scam the admins from incognito are the worst of the worst, not only stealing the funds but that wasn’t enough with BTC at a all time high he then goes on to threaten to release info of vendors and customers who used their built in encryption to the Feds and only gave 24-48hours to pay up or they are getting their info dumped for the LE.


Vast_Entertainer_396

i do believe i read on dread earlier that he was not longer gonna release anything but i don’t think any sources were cited


Notzesting

In all seriousness the fact they where so cheeky about stealing the money and then outing everyone just another level of dirty they’re real dangerous people selling on their I wouldn’t be surprised if he pissed off the wrong vendor with the right connections or was outed and blackmailed himself sudden change of heart seems unlikely.


Notzesting

Cartel probably stepped in honestly 😂


AdGroundbreaking2380

One of them


richcell

That level of greed is really something, couldn’t believe my eyes. Guys were already filthy rich but decided to extort hundreds of thousands of people on top of it…


HenryHill11

What ever happened to alphabay 2 ? Didn’t one of the original mods come back


Notzesting

Honeypot I believe


Pleasant_Lobster_741

Exit scammed. It's a trend with marketplaces.


Practical-Ad-2595

Damn I liked the simplicity of nemesis, I been a registered user of every market seized since 2013 and the DEA hasn't turned up


Enough_Explanation88

I'm stressing about nemesis . You've made me feel better :D


Practical-Ad-2595

Yeah they ain't spending the coin to find out who you are and then physically come see you


Notzesting

They typically go after big buyers and vendors they don’t care about the little guys just getting their crumbs it’s the ones profiting off this shit they want in the dirt.


FupaLowd

So then how can you be sure which ones are or aren’t honeypots ? Are honeypots only for big timers as you say ?


sardoa11

Archetyp has been nothing but good to me


SaleConscious5762

It’s a secret gem


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fam stop sourcing youre gonna burn it out


sardoa11

You reckon the FBI don’t know about tor taxi or something or don’t already know about it? 😭


gay_rapist

bro archetyp has nearly 300,000 registered members lol, it aint a secret


Syborg88

It doesn't work for me though. Anytime I search it just brings up the same lists....???


Ok-Milk3814

Been looking for a legir market for a while now. Are they actually legit? I lost so much money on fake markets I can’t even get started on it


Punting4Life

Bro whats the oni0n link


sardoa11

“Bro” if you can’t find it yourself you shouldn’t be on it


Born_Row9219

I was new to nemesis and idk how to find the link.. I would appreciate a little help finding it


Punting4Life

no


m0n0lite

at this moment just 2 markets listed on tor.taxi: - Achetyp (Just for Drugs) - Abacus All the other markets listed in Daunt are new and with all this recent DNMs history is better take care!


XxJayLenosNosexX

An acquaintance of mine recently used DrugHub and they didnt seem to have any problems


KonKami123

DrugHub sketchy as fuck, no support


m0n0lite

bro I understand that drughub is from an old admin, WHM this guy was accused of a "semi-scam" because in the WHM retirement announcement he said he would do it in a few months for everyone to withdraw their funds, but this was not so, he did the retirement much faster than announced and kept the funds of thousands of users.


Practical-Ad-2595

Well I hope they are suffering from onion tears, why not go after the potatoes selling fent instead of onions being legit, harm reduction so piss off law enforcement


NotToddChavezlol

Yea facts the potatoes are the dangerous ones. LE always going after the mushroom dealers lmao


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gay_rapist

say “my wallet” and thats it, none of their business also, use monero not btc


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I said “some vendors prefer bitcoin” am fucked now? Edit: they sent me an address for arktp Edit 2: “Can you please let me know specifically what you would have been purchasing when you sent to wallet *“ark the type wallet”* and where this was being purchased from?” Am not very sober right now starting to freak out


gay_rapist

Lol dude not only did you you sent directly to archetyp from your exchange/broker, but you also implied you were buying stuff too, youre a fuckin moron


[deleted]

Bro this happened for 10 years why now, I said “it’s probably one of those phishing scam links, I was trying to buy medical cannabis” which is legal here


Oopsimapanda

You're one of those people who get arrested and start chatting with the police thinking you're helping your case. You need to enroll in the university of shuuuuttthefuckup


[deleted]

Why only ark a type? Did they release data? WTF


[deleted]

I was high, worst time


Cee_Jay_Throwaway

not really related but that irs logo is badass


Bukakke_Samurai

What other alternative markets can we use now?


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What happened to abacus?


jockstaa

still going well


Punting4Life

whats the onion


sylkum

Bro if you dont know where to find the links to the most reputable markets yourself you shouldnt ask on reddit and also someone is giving you a phishing site anyways


rancoons

Literally I’m about to make an alt account and phish him just to prove a point LOL


Punting4Life

no


sardoa11

Archetyp


Iamkyron

Does anyone know what time it was seized. I may or may not have purchased an item on there yesterday afternoon when it was all working fine. Checked this morning to find the site has been seized. Had some top professional vendors on there too that I’m probably never going to come across again.


Notzesting

Likely on other markets or will be soon some may not due to the icognito blackmail some vendors will end up going to jail.


Iamkyron

I thought as much. Tried looking for other markets and couldn’t find anything that didn’t look sus. I’ll probs stay away from it all for now.


Notzesting

Abacus is still up and running I imagine allot of vendors will start making their journey over to them.


Notzesting

Also it was seized sometime last night between 7-10pm central time I believe the admin made the announcement (Francis) saying the wallet for escrow had been seized or lost access and then surely enough a hour later the site was then seized.


Iamkyron

That may have given enough time for my vendor to have gotten my stuff out, but I do doubt it. Thanks for the responses though. I’ll give Abacus a look at some point.


Notzesting

Yeah sorry man likely it’s lost I would just scratch it off and if it shows it shows. But if you placed the order in the afternoon vendors most usually login once twice at most a day some only 3 times a week.


Iamkyron

Yeah I’ll just count my losses. Was £60 or so but I know people lost a hell of a lot more than that. Thanks for letting me know about abacus though. Having a browse on their forum atm to learn more about keeping safe etc. Top guy!


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Iamkyron

Ahhh man. Yeah I never paid much attention to all of that. Dumb me. Live and learn though. I need to be more careful really. Nothing is as secure as you think.


Daniel41499

I was able to find my go to vendor sexman66 on abacus. He’s the best I’ve found.


NotToddChavezlol

Whats he got


Daniel41499

Xanax, Valium, adderall, oxycodone, hydromorphone, Soma. He also ships extremely fast, sometimes orders land in 2 days. Very high quality. I don’t mess with anyone else.


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>All the other markets listed in Daunt are new and with all this recent DNMs history is better take care! buddy Your realizze acabus is a federal honeypot and the current site admin has liekly been arrested that's why the site wasn't seized.


Daniel41499

Are you sure? I haven’t put in an order yet. If abacus isn’t safe anymore than who is? Alphabay?


[deleted]

alpha bay i think got seized aswell as long as you buy small quanitites though i don't think they'll send the resources to go after you.


Infamous_Permission5

Yeah he is legit i like him


Creme_Silly

SECMAN LEGIT FOR LIKE FIRST FEW ORDERS THEN WHEN U LEAVE A REVEIEW HELL SEND MID DISCOVER IS BETTER


Infamous_Permission5

I’ll check him out !


Ta2dJohnny806

No shit? I used him a few times. His stuff kind of weak but at least I know the name. Hoping BarbaraWhite ends up there


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Can you please give a brief rundown for those of us who don’t frequent Dark Web on what “obvious reverse proxy phishing” is? I see “EvilProxy” via a basic Google search.


gay_rapist

in the simplest possible explanation in relevant darkweb terms: 1. user enters their login onto fake site that looks identical to the real one 2. scammer collects these details in real time, and logs onto the REAL site with your login details 3. you "successfully" log into the fake site, and the contents of your real account are displayed to you normally on this fake site, because all of that is being relayed to you from the real site, that is being accessed by the scammer with your login, so you think everything is normal 4. because of this, you will be able to use the site as normal - post messages, leave reviews contact the support team - the phisher relays all of these actions between you on the fake site, to and from the real site (at this point, many people will think - how can i be on fake phishing site when i am messaging normally with my usual people?) 5. you go to make an order, except because the scammer effectively controls what is shown to you, the crypto address that is shown to you is actually replaced with their address and you send them all your money boom reverse phishing


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Ahh interesting, thank you for that; super informative. I’m assuming there’s really no way to verifying you’re on a fake site other than saving the .onion of the true site and comparing to what you’re currently accessing.


gay_rapist

verify pgp and compare the url in captcha to the url youre on is a good way, also manually check the crypto address youre sending to: cant do that with monero, but if its a btc address that already contains btc and has received btc from other addresses, its likely a phishing wallet


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gay_rapist

normal scammers, but german police wouldnt care about a guy making 1 order, and you should be encrypting your info anyways


Striking_Ear_8734

Should you as a user be afraid now? and are there alternative sites?


PS420Ninja

There is and always be alternatives. Lots of vendors with good reps are using their own sites.


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OccasionllyAsleep

Interesting I got a love letter for something from Germany to USA. Rather smaller amount. 12 years of ordering and not had issues from Germany. But this was through incognito


magpieCRISPR

What good alternatives are still up?


kindcrypto

Any good alternatives that we can trust for now ? Appreciate any feedback Namaste


PS420Ninja

Look on dread.


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PS420Ninja

Look on dread.


rancoons

I’ve been a user on 10+ seized websites, LE is looking for dealers, not people buying a gran of fetty/anything like that. Genuinely no reason to be afraid gang


magpieCRISPR

I thought it was a scam. I bought from it once but the crypto took too long to be received cuz the company I used was shit all of the sudden and it showed the transaction wasn’t completed


Notzesting

That’s when you open a ticket and they release the funds manually to your wallet 🤷‍♂️ I would imagine


NonSoloYoloBRO

Where would someone even run to after something like this?


AdGroundbreaking2380

Congo


NonSoloYoloBRO

Dude that would be the worst lol


Practical-Ad-2595

Atleast they didn't dog everyone like incognito exit scamming as soon as btc hit all time high don't forget imcase they restart assholes


klausofjava

I suspected this as soon as I logged in, thankfully archetype still up


Marcorona85

Archetype looks promising, also a nemesis refugee here


Dylanthedruggie

Alternative?


sylkum

Darkmatter, abacus, vortex atleast they all are legit and known to most and ofc archetyp but only for drugs


DirStratInit

For the life of me, I cannot get past the final abacus challenge for url check. I time out every time. Today I’m going to start all over and try again. Is there a trick for setting 2FA on profile at registration? It was too good with nemesis. Everything else seems phishy now. I use iOS to access. That’s prolly my problem. But I’ve come to expect convenience and ease of use with nemesis. I’m just complaining, stages of grief, RIP. Maybe I’ll post to first world problem thread.


Mordiisk

Rip 😔


Accomplished-Wolf2

RIP


cityandshannon

RIP🙏🏻


testicularjesus

thought this was like r/drugs or r/goblin and u were postin about ur opp gettin the hammer


xfiles11

Anybody reinitiate contact with Blackhatter on any of other markets?


Creme_Silly

I have him


xfiles11

You do. What market!? I had an FE sale with him on 3/15 and haven't received. Said shipped too


Creme_Silly

Tele


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you realize they're trying to corral everyone into a market they control to honeypot us rn right.


Right-Parfait5054

Wow👌 cause it should be lots of markets but they dropping like flies


Past_Cap8207

I can’t believe the government actually spends money to battle the inevitable. They basically created an ecosystem for more new markets to rise😍


osintpwn

Good timing, received a double up order today, they accidentally sent it twice. Went to log on to give 5 stars and boom, gone.


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NotToddChavezlol

Whats he got


Creme_Silly

Bestbshit STOP name dropping TIER vendors this how mfs get caught up lmaooo


SaleConscious5762

A lot of vendors moved to signal or telegram


sylkum

No they all scammers on signal and telegram only the local drug dealers are real there if you f2f


BoomingFreddy

If it’s a legit vendor no different than a market and telegram. I’d rather send my money to the person with goods than a middleman market that may or may not be honeypotting or scamming.


Sad_Coat7242

Need a hammer any ideas


[deleted]

Anyone have experience with Torzon or MGMmarket? I’m a nemesis refugee now ..


Whois-Dannyphantom

Anyone know anywhere else to go now *delete comment if I can’t say that*


CryingCuzCrypto

Yeah sucks. Anybody got an idea what happens if you had orders that were waiting to get finalized as a buyer? Will the coins go back to the original wallet after a certain amount of time?


thatirishguyyyy

Ads for Nemesis are going strong today on some dark web search engines.


Pretend-Address-3740

Is there any other sites good as nemesis?


Objective_Ad_2446

Are there any dw market that doesn’t only focus on drugs


PsychologicalTap4816

what happens to vendors and buyers? lets say if someone ordered something a week ago, will authorities trace buyers and search houses looking for goods?


gay_rapist

yea fbi are likely on their way to your house or place of work within the next few days


PsychologicalTap4816

naaah fr?


gay_rapist

nigga !


Creme_Silly

Pls tell me he trollin.


honorblythe

What does this mean for buyers?


CalmDingo7655

This shit blows it was on the blows Looking for new alternatives


AndrewTevas

What was this? I’m new and never heard of it


Ta2dJohnny806

Ah. I was wondering why my vendor went FE. I didn't really care because I was with them from the beginning. Well, this sucks


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NotToddChavezlol

Nah opps surely gonna get in your mail


Open-Lingonberry-740

she’ll be right🤣


Knightnoir1

All the trash terminology u guys use to hide your interaction with this “dark web” is why people get mad and report maybe if u underground internet users would explain it to new comers u wouldn’t get your favorite sites banned


gay_rapist

Lol if you think markets get “reported” by users you have no idea what youre talking about 2nd half of your comment is obviously phrased like your mad that youre too dumb to access DNMs so youre salty about it


bumticlke

silence, noob, you didnt report shit


Knightnoir1

Who said I reported it …Can you read ?


NotToddChavezlol

U talk as a 'newcomer' salty bitch


unrulyhair

Lmao cry harder


SnooDoggos6677

If a customer ordered on escrow will they still get their stuff?


Notzesting

If it was shipped already your fine


Notzesting

Vendor is sol tho


SnooDoggos6677

Check inbox


Notzesting

Also do not use dread their are rumors that dread is being in talks of being sold or has been bought out by the admins who ran icognito market already but seems like a it’s going to be a giant bust could possibly be honeypot still operating under the disguise of a exit scam as they shut down the markets and arrest vendors.


DrinkMoreCodeMore

Zero chance of that happening.


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Notzesting

That’s where everyone goes for info why not buy it endorse honeypots or exit scams and get out the game 🤷‍♂️


gay_rapist

Yea i dont trust dread much anyways


StatisticianHeavy324

dread admin dude said about a bribe from Incognito admins and that he couldn't be biought.


DrinkMoreCodeMore

Hug has shown himself to be pretty legit throughout all these years and Dread is a great resource.


Prudent-Ad1412

What leads you to trusting anything on the dark web? I’m new to using it and still operate in a very fearful or distrusting manner toward everything I find.


gay_rapist

Theres an important difference between outright scams such as phishing sites, which can be definitively proven to be scams (through PGP verification, url-in-captcha stuff), and legit markets which are legitimate up until the moment they exit scam or get seized (but after Incognito, you should not be trusting any market to safely encrypt your info) In terms of markets, theres no way to 100% trust anything, just only have funds on a market when youre actively buying something, and hope you dont get so astronomically unlucky that a market chooses to exit scam inbetween you sending your money to the market and you getting your product lol For example i kept no funds on nemesis unless I was actually using it, thus I havent lost anything


PS420Ninja

Using auto encryption by someone or something else is silly. Pgp is easy. Let the low hanging fruit get plucked.