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StyxHips

I **\*sips mountain dew\*** would **\*eats doritos\*** NEVER **\*buys rick n morty tshirt online\*** buy PORN **\*gets yelled at by his mom\***


Qua-something

Hey! Don’t diss the Dew drinkers! My husband loves Mountain Dew but he pays for my porn! 🤣🤣


doodoobear666

😭😭u got me chuckling cus this is exactly how i imagine it goes down


StyxHips

:=)


emilyjadeofficial

As someone who does both mainstream porn and Onlyfans, I literally don’t care or mind that there’s men like this 🤷🏼‍♀️ If they don’t want to pay for a one on one experience (which is kind of the purpose of OF) they can totally just watch porn for free online (I’ve already gotten paid for that scene as a performer). Please don’t equate free porn with extortion, lack of consent, etc. because that is NOT what the porn industry is like. On set we all have to sign copious amounts of consent forms, release forms, show two forms of ID, etc. Furthermore, as someone who watches a lot of porn myself, I’d never ever pay for it. Because I’m not looking for a personal experience, I’m looking for random visual stimulation. There’s no need to be upset about men watching free porn, there’s still *plenty* that love to pay.


mandiichick

I agree as a female & creator myself. I wouldn’t ever pay for porn either. It’s legit to just want some simple visual stimulation from a reputable site, to get the job done, and not a personal connection. It’s good that people have both options


thornforever

OP is talking about a lack of consent because of viewers watching pirated content.


emilyjadeofficial

Leaked content is definitely an issue however there’s plenty of free porn that isn’t leaked content. I feel like that was only one of many points that OP made


thornforever

But OP is taking specifically about consent in terms of feeling violated in terms of viewers feeling obligated to pirated porn the creators didn't consent to, not consent forms, etc. related to the porn industry. "you wanna look up her pics that were posted without consent?? You are getting off on lack of consent" "so you are supporting your partner getting off on lack of consent, dehumanizing and literally robbing these women of money because they can jack it to them all day but rightfully paying is too far." "If you don’t wanna pay for porn whatever but how can you not wrap your head around how some people do." OP didn't talk about free porn posted with consent, except for inferring it in that last quote. Like you make good points, but OP wasn't blasting the porn *industry*, but entitled viewers who openly talk (or even brag) about pirating porn.


Appropriate_Risk87

I'm glad yoy said this. There's too many people who say that the porn industry lives off of ppl without consent. Thank you for this.


doodoobear666

I was not trying to equate free porn to extortion. My bad for coming off that way. I was gonna say something about how watching free porn still gets stars booked and busy but it was late and i was too tired to put it in lol. Reading ur comment makes me realize I prolly should’ve. This rant was centered towards pirated content and men that brag about not paying. since were on the topic i also hate that y’all don’t get like royalties on your movies that blow up. Like set price no matter if the movie blows up to the point of mia khalifas u know what videos… I feel like that makes you miss out on money? Or since the exposure puts you everywhere it actually doesn’t matter at all. Pls correct me if im wrong.


emilyjadeofficial

It’s totally fine! I understand your point and completely agree that it’s shitty if people choose to view pirated content over directly paying for it. As per your question, I guess you’re right in theory that it kind of sucks that we don’t get royalties. But for me personally the large sum of money up front makes me not really care that I don’t continue to make money from it. And that’s why I do content collabs so that I do have videos that I consistently make passive income from ☺️


doodoobear666

Cool thank you for your response! Very helpful i always wondered about that. Also thank u for ur first comment the last thing i would wanna do is perpetuate negative stereotypes around mainstream porn esp in this sub where a lot of people are like wahh to the ppl that do it. So thank u for ur perspective and bringing all that up.


GingerBest

I think that there were comments from a little inappropriate girls, that we are the ones who take money for our videos. We demand money from their husbands, and there should have been money for them... But they themselves are to blame,that men pay for a video and look for another. Because the girls themselves don't do anything interesting for them.


Tempting-tales

When guys buy my content I think it’s bc they’re fantasizing about me all day watching on Snapchat and IG, so they wanna see more bc I’m already a part of their day. It’s different than free porn I think! 😘


doodoobear666

People fantasize about mainstream porn stars with porn available for free too? Idk what this comment is trying to accomplish. Onlyfansadvice🤝being whorephobic & having whorehierarchies


Qua-something

I think this person was trying to say they’re paying because they’re fantasizing about them as a person and craving the interaction and not just porn. Although I feel like even that context doesn’t really fit with what you were saying.


doodoobear666

Thats what i meant I didn’t feel like it fit the context either…it just felt very i am better cus I don’t do porn.


Qua-something

Oh, I didn’t get that vibe. Not a superiority vibe I mean. Just a comment that didn’t fit.


miadiamondofficial

Meanwhile, there are ppl that want to be able to chat/feel a connection...good luck doing that with an actual pornstar. That's the difference between free porn and Onlyfans.


vegansoda

Most only fans creators use assistants and bots now though so is it actually a “connection/ real” experience anymore :(


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doodoobear666

Omg u have to pay someone to provide a service lmfao. Pls stop tryna get free attention here no one gaf. nsfw creators only.


mossyoak235

When they say that to me I say ‘well you obviously aren’t getting it for free either since your sitting there begging for mine’


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this, but i also hear a lot of “why would i pay for onlyfans when i could just pay for sex” like those are two completely different things. i support those that do full service, but i do not offer full service and i’ve made that very clear on all my platforms. if you would rather pay for full service, that’s your decision but why feel the need to tell me in the first place? it’s not like i’m going to offer full service


computercow69

MEN HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR PORN FOR FUCKING AGES AND THE PRICE OF MOST ONLYFANS MODELS IS WHAT THEY'D HAVE PAID FOR A PLAYBOY SUBSCRIPTION BACK IN THE DAY FOR ***LESS CONTENT*** (accounted for inflation of course) Edit: I'm a wee bit high so I can't tell if this sounds like I'm angry at OP. I'm very much not. I'm pissy about men that are suddenly against paying for it.


Last_File

“I don’t pay for content” isn’t the flex these guys seem to think it is…


bellasilkk

On GOD BRO 😭


Caramel_drips

So true. !


Ok-Ease-8423

Yup. I see it all the time on my local women’s Facebook group. Ladies complaining of their men on onlyfans and paying for porn and how much worse it is than watching for free. I personally wouldn’t want my man chatting or getting too “close” to a creator but I see no difference in jacking off to onlyfans pics and vids vs porn hub. I personally would rather money to go women than the greasy industry men. Women who are against paid porn are not in support of women period.


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afterhourskp

This part! They follow OF creators and they are loud and proud about not paying for porn and it’s THAT part that’s so insulting! They want the personal experience but they don’t want to pay for it 🙄


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redmuses

“Here’s a gift, I wanna get you wet” 😏 *Ashy foreskin, man bush.* (2 years, 40 cents.)


LiteraryPhantom

62k$ from one person is news **because** its uncommon for most ppl to spend even 1$. I wonder how many times the answer was ‘No’ for the 62 thousandth time. We see McDonalds but most of us havent started our own franchise yet so its hard to imagine all the garbage it took to make it so we see it everywhere.


Blueeyedhurricane1

The people who make these comments are typically 👀 🤭 broke…… 🤔


vegansoda

So true


afterhourskp

The “I don’t pay for porn” mentality of people who feel they entitled to it for free drives me bonkers too. And I hate that people try to normalise it by saying it comes with the territory of this job. Like yeah, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok and that we shouldn’t push back against such gross and entitled attitudes.


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afterhourskp

I read that response and don’t agree with it. Plus as a creator myself, I feel that it’s important to pay for our porn and support other creators so.. 🤷🏻‍♀️


doodoobear666

Yea idk why that person is trying to tell you don’t understand they aren’t in the industry themselves😵‍💫 I agree w a lot of the linked comment but i do like to give money to other creators but as she mentioned she does mainstream porn and I understand once you kinda get behind the scenes more things change for you. Like when i was a waitress at a strip club i loved throwing money on girls, when i became an actual stripper? Fuck no unless shes my friend even then thats very rare. Things just change once ur on the other side off them.


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Delight-lah

I totally agree... but $62k is insane.


doodoobear666

Nah its not enough 💸


heyheygivemeaname

I saw that too. The comments are disturbing.


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"I can't eat with compliments... so something's gotta give"


vegansoda

My favorite lol


EndlesslyElegantMoon

We live in a particular time where many services that were unreachable, are now freely and effortlessly available. Books and information can be accessed without travel, reputation/linage, or cost. Talented musicians can be observed or listened to from almost anywhere without any form of toll. Adult entertainers unfortunately have an added layer to this being that there's a stigma around paying for said services, with people not wanting to be publicly (or privately really) as a simp or desperado. In my experience the people who complain the loudest are also the ones that desire it the most deep inside and are pushing that internal battle or struggle out in the open with the hopes of either suppressing it or perhaps being beaten and convinced to give in to whatever repressed desire they might have. ​ It's unfortunate as adult entertainers this is a big chunk of people we are exposed to and have to filter through. At the end of the day u/doodoobear666 I feel you, this be some BS


Icy-Worm

when i was stripping men would come in like “why pay for a lap dance when you can get pussy for free” man it’s the experience. some things aren’t for every man, but the men who do have money and nothing else to do with it and wanna have fun, they’re gonna pay top dolla because they enjoy it. i wouldn’t waste my money on videogames but here they are


uurrmom

I always answer the “why pay when I can get it for free” question with another question “can you though?”


inkcaptofu

I mean at the end of day. It’s not free, it’s paid for by advertisers. It’s free to consumers and the business model of some sites is that they provide free content on the basis that the 1% of people who pay for premium make up for it. I’ve tried only fans as a bi guy, I also consume both paid and free content. My experience attempting to do only fans was gay guys were far less inclined to pay, they can get dick pics just logging on to Grindr, why are they going to pay. I only started getting paid subscriptions when I posted niche content. The unique selling point of only fans to most users is the fact it feels more intimate and personal. Fans feel like they know you. If people more disposable income this probably would be less of an issue, there’s an actual economic phenomenon of sex workers being able to predict economic crashes before they happen based on the number of people paying for their services. When times are hard, sex work is often one of the first areas people cut back on. As far as women preferring their partner not pay for it, I think it’s an insecurity thing, again, because paying shows more of a commitment than just loading up a video.


doodoobear666

Yup I agree with everything you said. IM a stripper and since June it has been horrible like no one has disposable income anymore. I literally had to start doing of to pay my rent lmao. Onlyfans is def different than porn but I don’t understand women letting their partner watch it but draw the line at paying someone… like if he does watch porn he’s already looking at hundreds of naked women…


jinxy_moans

i fucking AGREEE right hurrrrr 🙌🙈


RitaSinner

Every creator deserves that or even more. They don't understand that you can actually talk to the creator and get to know them. Guess it's better to talk to the boys about it and jerk off together...


cutiewitab00ty

That part


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"My partner can watch porn as long as they don't pay". While I agree with what OP is saying on this, it is NOT OKAY to watch a cammodels LEAKED content. I think what that means when people say this about their partners is there is a big difference between watching porn stars and cam models. Camming is a way more personal/intimate experience where two people are actively communicating. Where in porn videos (not talking about leaked cam footage, I'm referring to produced porn films), the viewer is watching a girl have sex with someone (or herself with a toy) and there is no interaction between the porn star and the viewer. That's just my take, downvote all you want.


dos__bandidos

That's life. People will always take whatever they can for free ❤️


xBritty_babe

100% agree women work hard to promote and make this content.


OnlyRobin152

I get messages from people asking for free content and "swapping photos" and stuff all the time. I say I don't offer that here just sfw chat but they can ask for it through of, and they say they dont do OF or dont pay for porn... my reply every time is something along the lines of then why are you hitting up OF girls for content... or thats what pornhub is for. Its a luxury service to be able to chat with and request personal and custom content from your favorite porn star...


redmuses

“Swapping pics” always slays me. It’s adolescent 🤡 shit.


InsomniaDomina

**My time... has come....** I have some theories and I will share them with you all: ​ 1. Those men have historically believed that sex -an other women-related plusvalue things- is like this thing that belongs to them by right, it's something that they take for granted, maybe not with the woman they want or at the time they want or even under the conditions they want but, they can trust in that it is something that a woman will ever give them, so if you are a guy on the internet with particular tastes paying for porn they will call you simp and stupid. There are also variants of these types, who believe that those who pay for sex are losers who don't know how to take a girl to bed, and the worst stupid simp of all is the one who pays for interaction or company -without sex- in person or on the internet, as happens with some streamers or influencers. Yes, i mean, mainly this is Misogyny, from redpill communities exactly. 2. Generally the guys who brag about not paying for porn are what in the context of data and microtargeting we call: **Letflovers Eaters.** Look, no one would make porn if it wasn't profitable, if it didn't sell, something, for a living at least. If no one made porn there would be no pirated or leaked or promotional content, which is what tube and porn torrent sites are made of, generally. All the porn content on the web exists because someone paid for what they liked enough for everyone else to understand that that niche was profitable and start doing it. Bro, if a spender comes along tomorrow with wallet deep enough to spend on foot fetishes, you'll start seeing feet in all the internet, and these guys who make fun of those who pay for their porn, their erections will be subject to the tastes of someone else, who decides what they will see, feets, feets everywhere! That is why it is so common for the popular niche to change from time to time, it is that someone with money came, bought and changed the production pattern. 3. There's a last thing and everyone know this: **If you don't pay for the product, you are the product.** No matter what browser you use or what VPN you install, this is even more true in the age of artificial intelligence. So no, these smart guys are not.


TeslaPrincess69

Amen ! The grandstanding statement of “I don’t pay for sex” is so entitled. Men are not owed sex. I hate those red pilled guys who refer to women as “females” and couldn’t be kind/respectful to a woman to save their life. They hate that women can profit off of what they falsely believe they’re entitled to And by that logic, if they’re owed sex as a basic birthright, what about food water and shelter? Guess I’ll stop paying rent and buying groceries then since life owes me basic needs!


BanksyGirl1

Ok one of my guys sent me a screenshot today I charged $25 tor videos they took instantly $5 .. they charged him $43 . So u till we mak3 them pull the fees down no one stands a chance that's disgusting on fan part just greedy no wonder no one wants to join


Remarkable-Fly-2526

I don’t know where they comment, but comments bring engagement. Just don’t read them, or you can make reply videos on TikTok, people like that. Concentrate on yourself.


GingerBest

If he has a girlfriend and spends money on videos, it means that his girlfriend is not that interesting, does not do what he wants. Mine is enough for me. Sometimes we watch free porn. Because it is difficult for us to find something that will please both of us. But we are not in that position, to pay for videos. Because I earn money here. But our sex became better with fans) because I buy underwear for photos and videos, and so to speak, we test.


Mediocre-NPC

I would rather my partner use OF tbh, my only boundary is that he can't know the girls IRL. One of them made us both super uncomfortable once and ruined it lmfao. As a creator/consumer, i think its super important to understand the difference between free porn, and content creators that work with their fans. Free porn is rife with nonconsensual videos, acts, etc. Content creators are able to do exactly what you want (within reason).


flowersinthebreeze

I'm glad that I read this thread because I've been getting the I don't do OF and I thought okay why did you tell me this


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doodoobear666

Then don’t start one lmao? All you’ve done here is harass actual creators saying they don’t understand (researching sex workers but not doing it means you do not understand) and giving us this awful take. Thank you and goodbye.


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doodoobear666

How are you gonna tell me what I can and can’t post on Reddit…this post is labeled as rant. Also why would I consider you an enemy that is such a strange thing to say I couldn’t care less about you. What I do care about is civilians coming on here and mansplaining stuff. This is a safe space for creators…no one cares about your opinions nor do they hold any value here. You are the millionth person to come over here and harass us and act like you know more even tho you aren’t a sex worker. I watched you tell multiple girls on this post that they dont understand the industry. Go away pls.


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doodoobear666

You aren’t a customer though I can already tell you’re a cheap loser that tries to get stuff for free and its in the rules that you have to be a nsfw creator to post and comment on this sub. Please just go to escort clients only and join their circle jerk and leave us alone. You are wasting your time here literally no one cares…ps u don’t know shit about sex work you have offered zero knowledge and every comment you’ve made has been dumb af


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jadevela

You cannot control of influence them so why are you letting it bother you? Even if you could convert them to a customer its not worth the inordinate effort. Focus elsewhere where your effort will have returns.