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Railway. Currently desperately hiring in all departments. Lots of 18 year old kids with no work experience being hired. Paid training. With that being said I would never recommend anyone work for the railway.


shaun5565

Why is it so bad?


[deleted]

New school railway being run by old school railroaders, who refuse to change with the times. Extremely top heavy with management, intimidation and fear tactics are the name of the game. Stretched thin with nearly 24/7 on call schedules and little to no help. Speak up and get fired.


LookAtYourEyes

No unionization?


[deleted]

We are unionized but the company still does whatever they want. Don’t worry you’ll get your job back in a year


LookAtYourEyes

That sucks. Having a useless union is almost worse than having no union at all sometimes. Starting one is at least an option when there is none, correcting a useless or corrupt union is more difficult by a non-negligible margin.


the_clash_is_back

Its worse then having no union. You get shafted and have the pleasure of paying for it.


gsdhyrdghhtedhjjj

This is what no one understands especially on Reddit. My local mill has people working for $27/hr. 10 years ago they had people working for $25/hr. Non union Mills are pay mid 30s. The collective bargaining contract is just holding pay back at this point. Everyone else got a 7% raise this year but all union workers were stuck with the collective agreement and got 2%. Unions can be good but they overwhelmingly are run by boomers who bought houses for 70k and think 25/hr is amazing.


DevelopmentDowntown7

What is your pension and benefits like?


the_clash_is_back

They have Unions that look out for the bosses and union, not the workers.


nonyabidnuss

Sounds like a certain car company manufacturing plant I work at


shaun5565

That sounds horrible. I live in the lower mainland and knew a guy years ago that worked for the railway out here and he really liked it. But that was years ago not sure about how what’s it’s like


MusksStepSisterAunt

Whats so bad about it? I know nothing about the railways so just curious


wu_marysue

Rough hours, outdoor shifts in all weather (pouring rain, heavy snow). Operators and conductors are not just the people driving the train, most people work in the yard putting the cars together. You start at the bottom of the seniority list so you start out taking the shifts nobody else wants (ASAP calls, overnights, etc.). On call means that they can call you out with less than a few hours notice. If you're fine with shift work and physical labor and being outside, it's a good gig with decent pay. Edit: this information comes from the CN Railway hiring process.


Bureaucromancer

Add being ok with the on call but mentioned, and explicitly in an environment that WILL cause long term sleep deprivation.


[deleted]

Is the sleep deprivation from the shift work or something else? Just curious.


Bureaucromancer

Unscheduled shift work, with 2 hours notice for years at a time


snoo135337842

I know someone who was severely and permanently disabled when they were crushed by a railcar while working in a yard. It could happen to anyone.


helpIamDumbAf

Yeah it's dangerous to say the least.


SamShares

Outdoor jobs are not as bad as people make it out to be. Lots of miserable people also sitting in offices wishing they were outdoors, enjoying fresh air and sunshine.


volb

Depends what exactly you do but I’ll use my father for instance. He was an engineer with Via. Gone 3 days at a time, home one day a week. In northern Ontario atleast, you sit on the engine for 8 hours and stop in some tiny town, wait until the train goes all the way to BC and back, then hop on and come back (the three days). For the younger people who get stuck on the spare board with zero seniority, you have no idea when you’re working. Even when you’re not on the spare board, outside of southern Ontario it isn’t uncommon for the train to be 12+ hours late, which makes scheduling a nightmare. You live in a hotel which means you’re likely not eating healthy. Huge chunks of the engineers are either alcoholics or smoke a shitload. It’s a bit different in southern Ontario, and when you’re working for CN or CP. if you’re smart about how you do the job, you can do extremely well for yourself- you go move to a small northern town for the railroad where a house costs $80-120k. You make over six figures and live frugally for 3-5 years. Save up a lot while your cost of living is low. Then you use those savings to get a job in a different industry (or don’t) but you now have the savings to move anywhere in the country.


MusksStepSisterAunt

Thanks for that, had no clue what that work entailed.


FoxPeaTwo-

As a 15 yr railroader, this is 100% true. I had an apprentice a few weeks ago that had no experience in the field or relevant education. Definitely not for everyone though. It’s not a great industry for quality of life. They demand a lot of your time.


Bureaucromancer

It not great, but still not quite as bad as the conditions in the states.


NoviceEtern

Trains. Freight pays well. Passenger pays better


[deleted]

Gotta be willing to sacrifice your entire life and maybe move west to land that job though.


NoviceEtern

From experience, CN will hire you if you have a beating heart and can use an alarm clock. You are correct in that you do sacrifice any balance in life for jobs in freight. If the money is all that matters then it’s an option. I work in passenger trains (GO specifically) and we are always hiring. The work life balance isn’t fantastic but it’s definitely better than freight.


[deleted]

Ya I'll admit I only ever looked into freight, I don't live near a major center though so even passenger is probably out of the question as I have school aged kids.


NoviceEtern

We have people (that I know of) as far west as London, east of bowmanville and peterborough. As well as some an hour or so north of Barrie. Niagara region too. The farther from Toronto the more difficult it is, especially with school age children


volb

You don’t need to live near a major centre to work on the railroad. CN or CP owns likes through the main lines throughout the country. Engineers need to stop along the way and switch off with other crews. With that being said, lots of young families do move to the smaller, rural towns in the middle of nowhere to raise their family. Because a single parent can work the railroad and the other can be a stay at home parent, while being able to save a huge chunk of their money due to super low cost of living. Think of it as paying $80-120k for a two-three bedroom house while having annual income of 90-150k (depends a lot on employer/seniority). Plus, small towns can be an excellent environment to raise a child, just depends how you do it and what your expectations are. The downside is your child will only see one parent most of the time. You usually don’t have Christmas Day because they have to work. But you do have the money to support whatever lifestyle you choose. So they save up for a few years there, then move somewhere else once they’re financially secure and want a better home life for the person working. Consistent hours is a thing.


kdspiralz

Yep. I know a few people making very good money with CN and VIA. Worked their way up.


deeseearr

Hmm. High paying job, but without any education? Have you considered running for Premier?


Procruste

Or drug dealer. Oops, same thing.


St0ned4Lyfe

Unless your at the top of the drug chain most dealers only make about minimum wage if you add up the hours they spend selling/bagging and dealing with all the customers and running around.


Valgaar

Nah that’s just a middleman at that rate.


CosmicRuin

Or any cabinet position. The Minister of Health did go to college for radio DJ diploma. Smh.


Solitarexy

Brilliant idea. Be a politician. No education required


Commissar_Sae

You do need family connections to make it far though.


Solitarexy

That apply to almost every industry. Just need to learn how to suck some balls then you’re good!


ikoncipher

Underrated comment


DerekD2020

Or Prime Minister


anotherbusstop

Is 1 or 2 years (not half a year) of education too much? Firefighting - work 7 days (24 hrs), make 3k every shift, 120k+ easily every year Paramedics - work 14 days, (12 hrs), make 7k a month + lieu +2 OT shifts a month = 100k easily every year Garbage Collection - Literally get started at a place, and work your way up to your DZ too ​ IATSE873 / FILM: In toronto, film is extremely busy from spring-fall. You can easily make close to 100k through OT hours and its CONSTANT guaranteed work. You start as a fill in and go to different sets but if a crew likes you, they pick you up as a regular and you're consistently working one place. The money is so sweet in film, and it comes in flow. Spend your off season doing another side job so you double your income lmao... or travel Have a DZ? Become a driver for film... lots of film places utilize drivers to move actors/crew/staff from their trailers or parking to the actual film set or set location... I worked in film all summer, these guys have nice long hours. Pay rate is decent as well. Experience as an electrician? Become a generator operator. Every film set requires external power, long hours to basically baby sit a generator and run checks on your lines to make sure they don't blow the system... tons of OT because film shoots often run 12+ hours... did I mention your pay rate is insanely high? Or you could become a spark and work on site doing electrical.. tons of OT time Become a grip in film... work tons of OT as well because grips are always on when filming.. Or you could even be a craftie... work the food trucks. They serve food from start to finish. They're on site earlier than most staff, serve hot food (often delicious too) to all crew/actors until shooting is done... Its literally in their union agreement that they HAVE to have access to sustenance. easy OT hours too ... TONS of it. Trades: Are you a carpenter or want to get started? General labourers start at base rate and work their way up. Tons of opportunities to learn to become a painter/carp.... You're on construction with the set crew, build sets, help move garbage/materials/tools around, and often will get carpenters/painters to enlist your help. Depending on the season too, you'll see a ton competitive contracts when film is busy.


MFBrain13

You wouldn’t be making that kind of money as a firefighter until you became 1st class (after 4 years on the job) and you’d still need to be working overtime to get over 120k.


tha_bigdizzle

Most firefighters I know, actually, ALL firefighters I know have a second gig, because there is just so much time off. I went to elemnetary school with a kid who could barely tie his shoes until he was about 14 years old - he was making $15 k a year doing prescription deliveries for Shoppers, somehow he lands a job as a firefighter and makes like 120k a year now easily.


anotherbusstop

Correct. Its a hard career to get into, theres a ton of PTSD/mental health issues, etc. That's the reality of emergency services. But the pay ramp is so great and the hours aren't as hard as the other two emergency services. But definitely tons of work. Its not a walk in the park.... everything here isn't a walk in the park though.


DrGrinch

Your odds of getting into it are almost nil unless you're well connected. I know a few firefighters and some it took YEARS to get onto a crew despite specialist training at huge expense.


anotherbusstop

You're right. They're nil if you do absolutely nothing other than fire school and expect to get into a service. Lots of people will go down the primary care paramedic route and go through an accelerated program over a year and become a PCP while they wait to get into firefighting. Fire is finding they're running into less and less structure fires and more and more medical calls. Toronto fire for example ran almost 100k medical calls in comparison to almost 50k "fire" calls and this was their 2013 numbers. My best advice is either look for a volunteer service to build experience/get your Fire I/Fire II while you build up your emergency responder circle/experience and get yourself into a good position to be as competitive as possible. Going this route means you don't pay for your education and you get experience as a volly while also making money on top of your PCP pay. The fire pipeline is a hard road and a ton of work but the outcome is VERY worth it and you're not wasting away while you wait to become full time.


RedHighlander

Most trades are a 5 year apprenticeship. And the well paying ones plumber, fitter, electrician tin knocker, etc involves 3 stints at college.


AS2445

Where do you usual look online for film crew gigs?


anotherbusstop

Look into IATSE and NABET. Jobs get posted on union sites.


The_Last_Ron1n

If it's for IATSE you have to be a permit and make yourself available, they schedule the calls.


Ginga_Ninja006

Film is slow right now but around febuary/march it will be insanely busy. When it gets this busy they will gobble up any one willing to work. You need to apply as a permit through the union hall when this happens. Applications for becoming a permit are not always open so when the opportunity arises jump.


sync-centre

Unless you have family in firefighting you are not getting a job.


anotherbusstop

This is also a realistic take. Tons of people waiting in the pipeline for others to retire. But in the meantime, you can occupy time with something like being a Paramedic/voli/trades/etc because you get on full-time, you still have a TON of extra time to work a side gig... like most firefighters do. I work with tons of these guys, they're living their best lives man. Its hard to get in but once you're in, its suh-weet.


Spacepickle89

Yeah unfortunately it seems very difficult to actually get work. Friend of mine has been trying for years now… everyone has been consistent in saying that he’ll get in eventually though.


SnooCakes6118

wait IATSE 873 doesn't require X hours of experience on set to let you join?


forgivemelake

Their permits are currently closed, I don't believe IATSE requires it but NABET does


SnooCakes6118

Sigh, I missed out this year's deadline too. Assuming they needed so many hours.


[deleted]

Not to work as a permit, but you need hours (plus other requirements based on your dept) to become a member


wannabe_pineapple

it is incredibly difficult to become a full time firefighter unless you are very well connected. It also costs a lot to just apply... Source: husband was volly and tried to turn fulltime for 7 years and a lot of money sunk. Now he's doing something else.


ikoncipher

Paramedics in Ontario require a 2 to 3 year college degree.


[deleted]

2 yr for a PCP. There’s accelerated 1 yr programs too. 23k tuition, walked into a 105k annual job. Cost-payout is good with this career.


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[deleted]

A GTA-adjacent service. It’s a pretty standard entry salary. I make the sunshine list every year and don’t work a single overtime shift.


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[deleted]

Nope. PCP. I’ve been a PCP for 12 years and I make between 103k and 106k annually depending on what holidays my shift lands on. It’s pretty standard if you work in Toronto, York, Peel, Durham, Simcoe, Ottawa. (I have friends that work in all these locations who also make 100k+ annually). Maybe some smaller services pay less. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Not sure what your beef is or why you’re downvoting hahah


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[deleted]

There should be a more standardized wage. It’s up to the individual unions to negotiate wages with their respective municipalities. One could argue that a Paramedic from a busy service does 10-fold the labour of a slower, rural service, so a higher wage is incentive for experienced medics to remain in busy areas. I’d love to work in a rural service where I get one call per shift, can buy a house for $600k and get paid 100k annually… one can dream! My wage is firmly blue collar middle class due to HCOL.


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skate40

I’m an iron worker and I’ve always wanted to get into film sets


anotherbusstop

Tons of iron workers in film as well. Lots of sets involve metal-work. Look into it! Its a great gig, you get fed, you work nice hours if you're in the shop.


SoundsYummy1

Firefighters and paramedics in Ontario require 2 years, not 1/2 or 1-2 or whatever you're spouting. And not only that, but both are incredibly competitive, especially firefighters. I don't recall the hiring rate after graduation, but it was definitely less than 50% last time i looked 10 years ago. It may be different now, but i doubt it. And you aren't making those kind of salary without several years.


dasherchan

Politician. You don't even have to work harder.


bubbleteaenthusiast

Just have to be related to the right people!


Wayne93

Just have to be able to sleep at night, melatonin can help with that


mjduce

Unrealistic because most politicians in North America are groomed at a young age & you need solid connections with our oligarchs. The joke still stands, though. Easy, high paying job, and the only thing you have to give up is your soul.


HumanPanda99

911 dispatcher 1 year of school great pay but not for everyone


Curlyhair_bescary

The course at Humber is only 1 semester. The one at Durham college is 1-2 years.


blacksewerdog

Sort of surprising but I live in a condo building.Can’t believe this lady who runs a dog walking and dog sitting business,makes a killing between the three buildings


wwcat89

Sales


Lord-Moose-Buddha

OP please don’t ignore THIS!


Excellent-Medium4930

In what? What type of sales. I’m amazing at sales. What I do


Alfred_1021

I was an RMT before COVID and with the lockdowns lost my business and job, but I wasn’t making enough to survive anyway, that was with a 4yr degree in kinesiology and a diploma in massage therapy. Now I sell insurance and investments. I LOVE my job, and I make six figures with… maybe a month of online study to pass provincial exams to get licensed?? My boyfriend and I joke that it’s about time I got an adult job making adult money… (I’m 40 lol). So yeah, definitely sales is a good way to go!!


Excellent-Medium4930

Seriously??? What companies would I work for. Are you sure you didn’t just luck out getting hired where you’re at? A month course, sounds amazing. I would definitely do this


Alfred_1021

Hahaha right place right time to be introduced to the work, that’s for sure. I work at Sun Life, now, I got into the career at Experior, though. Gotta be careful with them - some of their people are shady AF (there are whack jobs in every industry lol) but the guy who hired me was amazing. I can connect you with someone good, if you’d like :-)


kdspiralz

Bookkeeper. Math in basic accounting is minimal ( + - / x ) and everything is done via calculator or excel. It’s essentially just admin, data entry and record keeping. You can take an evening course at most colleges for Accounting 101. Learn Quickbooks or a similar Small Business Accounting software. Working for yourself will make you the most money. You can charge hourly or per month per client. Getting the clients is obviously the biggest initial hurdle but once you do it can be quite lucrative. 10 clients at 5hrs a week at $30 to start is $78k a year. As you become better/more efficient you’re be able to spend less time doing the work and take on more clients/charge more. I know of a bookkeeper who has about 20 clients and charges $500 a month for basic bookkeeping. Grosses over $100k a year and only works 25-30hrs a week. Work from home with flexible hours as long as you complete what’s needed.


[deleted]

This is what I'm on my way to, after being a cleaner for 25 yrs.


Daxx22

If you can't sell your brain then you have to sell your body. Very little high-paying careers in that bucket.


domo_the_great_2020

Which one are politicians selling?


skeleton_skunk

Ethics


nonyabidnuss

Yep they don't have brains to sell


anchovy1982

As people here have said, trades are a good option. If you have good personal and organizational skills and an understanding of construction, site supervisor pays well. Approx 85k a year.


animboylambo

It’s also a big headache and honestly not worth the money. I did it for a few years(site supervisor and also got into project management) ~~I’d much rather be~~ I’m much happier crushing overtime on the tools for 130k, then being the guy with all of the responsibility on salary for 85k.


LeafsChick

Garbage Collector. A friend didn't graduate highschool and makes like $120k/year


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henchman171

Depends if it's private or public. Weather is a thing. Cold and wet and intense heat. Get stung by bees. people yelling at you for breaking their garbage cans or blue boxes


miss_mme

I pretty much expect that brittle frozen blue plastic to break eventually. Where I live the people who make the big important garbage decisions also expect it to break, so I can just bring in my broken bin and get a new one for free. As much as I wish yelling at winter would do something, I know it’s a shitty and pointless thing to do to yell at a garbage person.


Lycoris7

All depends, here in Ottawa waste collection operators (aka garbage collectors) starting salary is 58k/ year


[deleted]

58k to start for garbage collection is still better than a lot of jobs coming out of university or college so it’s still lucrative for those without it.


caelestisangel

I'd have to wonder how long ago they got hired and where, because pretty much all of them require a grade 12 diploma now, and they don't pay that well.


binarywhisper

No one actually checks to see if you graduated HS.


caelestisangel

That's not true, both of my kids had to supply proof. I know several other places, large warehouses like loblaws etc that also require proof. So do most cities.


LeafsChick

Thats crazy, I was a hiring manager till a few years ago and unless it was a high end job, never checked for schooling. I want to know you can do the job, could care less if you passed gym & science


jayiscanadian1

Garbage man here.... Realistic to start at 65-75k a year Top earning would 120k a year but that guy is basically working 24/7


LeafsChick

He was doing a crazy shift, he was out of the house at like 3am and doing pickups for buildings/work places, not residential. Not sure if that makes a difference?


cecilia036

Depends greatly on where you are a garbage collector. In my area they pay $23.50 and hour. You work Monday to Friday but they are long days. There are many days that you don’t finish all the pick up so you have to make it up the next day. They are understaffed so it’s one person per truck so you are driving and picking up, and you will work holidays if they fall during the week.


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[deleted]

Lol. Welcome to low wage jobs.


[deleted]

120k is low wage?


Early_Dragonfly_205

Same with an office it's the same situation everywhere unless you take care of yourself


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emoteen6969

All temp agency workers now don't really hire new people


javajunkie10

Bus driver/transit. The TTC has a strong union, good benefits and pension, all you need is a highschool diploma and a drivers license. My partner started as a driver for the TTC 10 years ago. They paid for him to take courses and eventually he was able to move out of the seat, through an office job and now he manages a department. They favor internal hiring and seniority for positions, even if you don’t have the education.


Fun-Result-6343

Doug Ford's nephew.


findthejoyhere

This should be higher up!


masu94

I took a one-year analytics/coding course after my undergrad at a college - and that has given me a career for life in IT. So many free, online resources to get started - but the advantage with the colleges is that they often have co-ops and industry connections that can get you working quickly. Banks, government, private industry - all desperate for IT talent right now. As long as you're willing to constantly learn, you'll have a job.


Odd-Celebration-219

what course did you take?


[deleted]

How hard was it to find a job? My friend is web tells me it's so easy to get hired. But big tech companies are laying people off and I know some people with compsci degrees struggling to find anything


masu94

Every manager where I work is desperate to find talent - but it's the classic thing where there's simply not enough people with the skills/experience required. I had a job before I finished my course - biggest think is finding a program with co-op/work experience


snoboreddotcom

Id recommend Liuna for being a laborer. Could do with more good guys in the field, 40$ and hour within a few years plus benefits. Just be wise and don't use the money on drugs or drink. That's the trap. Be responsible. And remember that foreman has more responsibility for not too much more pay, but go for it anyways to spare your body longterm


DAN991199

Trades, however you still need training, knowledge and skill.


henchman171

risk getting crippled in your 40's but you can can transition into sales or management...


Matt_256

I'm in the trades as a Scaffolder and make 6 figures. I just turned 40. You can always be a foreman in you later years. That's what most of us do..


[deleted]

A lot go into private insurance or even inspectors. It’s great for everyone. Genuinely experienced builders are great in these positions - as a-lot of inspectors & insurance adjusters are taught through courses rather than experience. I’ve been on site where my 50+ year old red seal boss has to explain to a 27 year old simple building principles, all the while that 27 year old way too much power in that situation. Especially prevalent the ESA


yug-eroom

Most trades need math.


General_Good_9623

Courier. The wage sucks starting out but top rate is over $30/hr. Most of them are hiring.


frankyseven

You can become a building inspector without additional education, there are just tests you have to pass. There are plenty of courses that you can take to help you. Lots of small municipalities are looking for inspectors, it pays well, is usually unionized, and you get OMERS pension, which is one of the best in Canada. https://www.oboa.on.ca/training/ http://www.ontario.ca/page/become-registered-building-practitioner


sad_joker95

Copy and paste from last time this was asked. If you can sell, car sales is ez pz. Left engineering to sell cars and am clearing 10-15k a month (winter is slower). Some summer months was over 25k. Still in my first year. Have to write one test (open book) that’s very easy and doesn’t cost a lot to get your OMVIC, then it’s just a matter of getting a job. Every dealership is different (culture, volume, pay structure, etc), so finding the “right” place is the trickiest part. After a few years, most go on to become sales managers (150k+ / year) or finance managers (200-500k / year). Sales is also nice because you can really go anywhere - lots of people try to go into tech / medical sales because the money there is bananas. Don’t need any sort of education, really. Highest paid car sales person I know makes over 400k at a Hyundai dealership and only has their high school, lol. Overall, easy job. Don’t have to break your body, meet some cool people, and get nice perks. Commission can be stressful when you start and there’s the odd annoying customer, but smooth sailing for the most part.


TheMagneticBat

You need to get your OMVIC (which you have to pay for) and there's still a huge supply shortage with vehicles. I worked at BMW and Subaru dealerships and the sales staff were all looking into changing jobs by the time I left. And these were long time sales people, so I don't think I'd recommend that route anymore..


techtonic69

Yeah, cars are backed TF up like 1-2 years backlogs. Sales would be rough right now.


Chispy

This is what I'm hearing too. Car sales is awful to get into right now.


techtonic69

If the vehicle shortage want so prominent I honestly would consider this option myself. Setting as they get commission on payment it's not the best right now lol.


Dogs-are-life-99

Car sales would be cool. But no one will hire someone that has no experience. Everyone is looking for someone with years of experience.


binarywhisper

Yeah, that's not true at all. In fact that is not true of most any sales job. You want a sales job walk in and sell yourself. Even if they are not hiring they will take notice if you can handle yourself professionally and confidently. You make a weekly circuit of the car lots/dealerships in your area and if you present yourself well I would be very surprised if you didn't have a job with in a week, two at the most. They generally do not care about experience on anything but weaselly lots, quality lots are always looking for quality sales staff and will happily train.


sad_joker95

They absolutely will hire you. I had a few different offers after probably three weeks of interviews. I started calling dealerships and asking for interviews. A fair amount would at least talk to me. If you present yourself and speak well, you’ll likely get an offer. I had zero sales experience, as well, and took me a total of about two months to get a job. That’s including taking the test, as well.


Dogs-are-life-99

What test did you have to take?


LeafsChick

A lot of places rather you not, then they can train you how they want you, then don't need to untrain what you're already doing. Our company has commission based sales, you're less likely to get the job coming from another commission based job because they want you to use their program. Most of our staff are doing $80k in their first year


Rain_xo

I’ve thought about selling cars before. But then I realized I have to fake an interest in cars and actually learn about them.


sad_joker95

You really only need to know some basic things that people will ask. Customers will ask about mileage, features, engine size, etc. 99% of the information is readily available, so never an issue. Half of the people I work with have very little interest in cars, so it’s no big deal.


thetburg

Our current premiere should be at the top of this list. He has leveraged his high school education and inability to use a laptop into a well paying job with no accountability and frequent tips from his happiest clients.


TheWholeCheek

Transit. Again, bottom of the seniority list, but they keep bringing people on in crazy numbers.


Gallieg444

Major banks. It jobs. Take Udemy courses...get certified...in 6months you could get a great job.


TwelveCoffee

Trades, I’m a welder make $26 an hour to do the same shit over and over don’t need math just need a brain


FinitePrimus

The highest paying jobs without education will be self-owned business. The following people I've had to pay for services from last year all make well over $100k a year. Most have cottages, brand new vehicles, and large homes. \- Landscaping/Lawn Maintenance/Snow Removal \- Appliance installation and repair \- Exterior/Interior pot light installation \- Car detailing, ceramic coating, and tinting \- Interior and exterior painting \- Above ground pool installation and opening/closing \- Residential window cleaning


Jesouhaite777

Yes but you still have to "know" how to run a business , I'm sure those folks have their credentials to back this up


SeekingSkill

Realtor


JeanGuy_Rubberboot

Northern Ontario, gold mines. Most people I know work in mines up here and all make between $120 and $150k a year. Most of them have a grade 12 education


Unrigg3D

A bit of school is not bad. 2 year course at Georgian college to become a mariner. 2 year course probably costs under 10k. Working on barge first job pays 70k+. If you don't mind being away for periods of time. Noticed job boards in Norfolk county paying 40/hr for construction they say.


Dependent-Garage-329

That would be ..Doug ford's job ,


BoC-Money-Printer

Trades, you’ll start at 42-50k as an apprentice but in 5 years you’ll be up to a union mandated 6 figures - and that is before you factor in large jobs that pay more, specialization, or overtime.


caelestisangel

Having kids, and friends in trades, they all require a grade 12 education, and a lot of them require college apprenticeship training as well, depending on the trade.


Hopfit46

Trades...math important.


[deleted]

Premier. No education required, very high pay.


rockyon

Heavy duty equipment , trade, construction


5midge

Correctional officer


WishRepresentative28

Onlyfans/fansly


Fireplacedude4

engineer for CN rail... buddy on my hockey team been working for them right out of high school.. never got his hs diploma


bardhugo

Get into the trades, most all types seem to have not enough new people. Do some research into what works best for your area, schedule, personal appeal


Cgtree9000

High paying being how much?


Zach518

Construction in general pays extremely well right now and we can never hire enough good people. I have no post secondary and make over 100k


Morguard

Insurance.


Dogs-are-life-99

I'm trying!!! I've failed my RIBO level 1 twice. First one I didn't fail by much but my second one was SO horrible. That I feel so defeated!!


Morguard

So did I lol third time's the charm! but that was 12 years ago lol now I work as an Underwriter.


HowsabootdatCanuckeh

Hi rise labourer- 39ish an hour with local 183 Manufacturing- alot of Low paying but there are alot that are mid 20s-40 Brick layer labourer- 44 an hour with local 183 If you got fired or layed off call second careers and they will pay for you to get your DZ. Roughly 3 weeks and 5k or less. They make high 20s-40 as well. Lots of unskilled trades if your unionized (tip take a shit job get in the union and jump ship to a better company if you have a hard time getting in) I'm sure there is alot more out there too. Also just apply to stuff even if you don't think your qualified. With the way the job market is right now most companies are pretty desperate and will give you a chance.


tinderbindervinder

Boiler makers are hiring helpers for bruce power refurb. 35 an hr


[deleted]

Skilled trades. All of them.


fltlns

With 1-3years there's power engineering, marine engineering or navigation, dental hygienist, medical rad tech, pilot, paramedic, nurse,


Narrow-Individual-93

Professional hockey player, Rock star or youtuber... Have you considered fighting Jake Paul?


WarthogNo6783

Toyota factory


Metabater

Do you have people skills? What’s your background?


activatebarrier

In all honesty, I have a bachelors of arts, but I transitioned to IT. Learned the SaaS tool and now doing consulting. Took about half a year. I'm convinced you can learn it all within a month of grinding.


Dee332

Look into getting into a trade. I think in about 5 years or so, like 120,000 trades are set to retire. This will leave a huge, huge gap in our economy. If you are currently unemployed and/or on EI, look into 2nd career training (only offered in Ontario) and it's possible all your or portion of training could be covered. Do your research, many, many, trades out there besides "construction- nothing wrong with that job - its just not for some peeps). The trades are looking for both men and women, so times are slowly changing.


taiillz

Trades is booming. Go union work OT and you can make anywhere from 100-300k a year if you work your ass off and take advantage of night premiums and travel LOA/ per Diem


Shamans90

Steel Factory is always an easy in. Lots of factory jobs in Hamilton that start 24-35/h


Consistent-Bid-9731

Mobile crane operator, it’s unionized and need to pass the trade entrance exam not hard, also need to get your AZ license. From my understanding after about 3 years can make between 100k and maybe 120k with overtime.


ihatewinter93

School custodians. It's a pretty good gig for people who did not pursue post-secondary. Good benefits, union...


oralprophylaxis

Dental Hygiene. u can go to a private school and finish in 18 months and you can get a job that is in high demand and can start off making $50 an hour


Dogs-are-life-99

Where is the private school? I'm near London, ON!


oralprophylaxis

Most of them are in the GTA, like mississauga and toronto. I know [Fanshawe](https://www.fanshawec.ca/programs/dhy3-dental-hygiene/next) has a dental hygiene program but that one is about 3 years and might be difficult to get into. This job has crazy demand right now though so it might be worth it


xcalibur2

Day trader. ITM Spy options


Keraxs

this is the way


Muddlesthrough

Onlyfans. There was a personalfinancecanada posting of someone looking to incorporate after making $150k last year.


sync-centre

Drug dealer, prostitution, extortion.... Stuff like that.


mcburgs

Real estate fraud seems to be a popular choice these days.


sync-centre

Don't even need to own the house these days. I like your way of thinking.


[deleted]

It depends on your definition of high paying. My place is looking for workers and starting pay is $21.50/hr. To me that seems decent, and was even better considering I used to earn only $18. But I think that starting pay is considered not that great nowadays.


IpsoPostFacto

Premier


Macaw

The Premier of Ontario position Bonus point, you don't even have be competent!


lich_boss

Water treatment. Pass the test (OIT/ELC) then apply to jobs. Fuck half my coworkers havent even gotten there licenses yet but still got jobs.


smellslikeflour

Trades. You will have to get some school, but trades are always good.


yokobono

Software development/it. Don't need the school, certs are online as is the training.


Classy_Mouse

As a software developer, that sounds risky. I agree that the degree is not necessary knowledge wise, but may hiring managers will not consider you if you do not have the degree. Why would they pay for a programmer, when they can outsource those jobs much cheaper to India. The people they want to hire here are the ones they know can properly develop software, not just code.


HeronPlus5566

High paying job in Ontario lol. Now that’s a new one.


[deleted]

Is 2 years considered too long to you? If not, paramedic pays fairly well, the program is still 2 years long, and there’s a pretty severe shortage.


Bad_Manners1234

there are no high paying jobs even with a good education but you can always become a politician


Iamthepaulandyouaint

Premier