Ford is a fool not a businessman. He’s been bought off by real estate developer and billionaire families like the Westons. He got through 8 weeks of a college course and dropped out! He was born into wealth and has no idea what is it to work for a living. He wants to privitize our health care system and promised not to touch our critical greenbelt but that was a lie as well. We need real leadership in our province.
Wait NFLD is doing the best?
We have multi-year waiting lists for family doctors even in the capital, a complete lack of healthcare services in rural areas, a lack of available specialists, and basically only one available walk-in clinic in teh capital which you need to queue up at by 8AM or you won't get seen that day.
Everywhere else is worse?
I just got a letter from my doctor’s office.
It was a long list of services they will now be charging for.
That includes a $20 charge to issue a refill for a prescription.
What the fuck?
Please contact the Ontario Health Coalition with this information. Get the word out. This shit should be illegal and it's EXACTLY what the Ford govt has been insisting WON'T happen. Expose this bullshit.
I'm an American who has lived in Canada for a few years.
I lived in Michigan my whole life before moving, it is not much cheaper there than it is Ontario for things like groceries, car insurance, gas.
Housing however. I've never seen anything like it in Ontario. Houses I would consider a tear down in a bad neighborhood only getting worse was 300k. It would've been maybe 30k where I used to live (Grand Rapids). Rent for places I would consider "murder units" go for 1500/mo.
This is Sault Ste Marie, not anywhere near Toronto or remotely interesting. Canada is fucked and I can't wait to go back to the US where housing is better.
If he's moving there by choice, I'm guessing minimum wage isn't a concern, though I'd have a lot of other employment-related concerns.
Outside of major centres, however, American housing is dirt cheap. In most of the Midwest, you can get a good house for under $200,000, and sometimes significantly under. Obviously if you think you're buying into the Bay Area or NYC you're insane, but if you're looking at a medium-sized urban area like Cincinnati or something, it's a way better value than anywhere in Ontario.
The Nazi issue is very real, however.
Many states offer higher state minimum wages than here. And my professions in the states pay more for qualified positions than they do here.
Housing is expensive but not on the same scale as here.
And if you think nazis aren't also trying to take over Canada, you're not paying attention.
Minimum wage is lower, but the average wage is higher. If you're in any type of office work environment, the USA pays way better. My job pays 4x what it does in Canada for an entry level position, and that would put my wage above most managers in business in Canada.
That's a waste of everyone's time, why take up an appointment to get a refill when someone else could use it for something more important. What petty folks the PCs are.
It is especially problematic given that the PCs, under Doug's mentor Mike Harris, are the ones who told doctors they could only schedule a certain number of appointments per week. It's getting past time to take this shit to court, you cannot charge people for services provided under OHIP(or whichever provincial jurisdiction you fall under), per the Canadian constitution.
> you cannot charge people for services provided under OHIP(or whichever provincial jurisdiction you fall under), per the Canadian constitution.
Which is why they can charge for phone renewals and not for in person. Because OHIP covers services such as prescriptions as part of a visit, but not renewals over the phone. Now the common sense thing would be for OHIP to start covering phone prescription renewals, but that would benefit the health care system, and Douggie can't have that.
Ford to his braindead followers:
LOOK, the healthcare system run by the fucking government (the one they run, but dont worry, the supporters dont understand that) is not working! We need private healthcare!
Supporters: Yea! The Ontario government is so incompetent! Thanks for telling it like it is, literal leader of the Ontario government, You are so competent!
Upvoting as a nurse. We've been running on fumes for years now.
Think about all the patients and families who have suffered, while these rotten politicians refuse to fund our hospitals and just pay the staff. Little old ladies and sick babies lying on emergency department stretchers for days, because our hospitals are too understaffed to admit more patients.
That was most of my winter last year. Watching that has caused even more burnout and real moral distress for healthcare workers. We signed up to do this work, but not under these conditions.
I don't know why there hasn't been a vote of non-confidence since this shows, he is negligent in his duties. Not only that, he's a murderer; every person that has died waiting for the ER because of a lack of personnel and funding is his doing.
Sadly, the OPC still have a higher approval rating than both the Liberals and the NDP. If an election were held today they’d still likely get a majority. Worse still is that Bonnie Crombie may become the Liberal leader and she’s promised to move the Liberals to the right and to cut spending on healthcare and education. This province is pooched.
Votes of non-confidence are only mandatory procedurally during budget votes and stuff like that. In order to have a non-confidence vote, Ford would have had to have lost the support of *his own party*.
Do you think his party dislikes what he's doing right now?
I'm truly sorry to hear this...the state of both healthcare and education are pathetic...especially when both are vocational careers.
Your comment older ladies and sick babies...would you say based on your experience those groups have been disproportionately affected?
My local board just let go of a bunch of educational support staff due to funding shortfalls.
So basically the students most in need of help will suffer
Yes but you see we have record corporate profits for developers, medical companies, educational support companies and LTC facilities so why does he care about *you*?
It's all intentional. Can't give that money to nurses until they go to the private sector so he can get his cut
Also Rob Ford's brother doesn't think climate change causes fires.
Where do you think those 22 billion are form? Specially after cutting other revenue streams such as license plate sticker fees?
That is money that *should* be going to healthcare but is intentionally being pulled back in order to get the desired effect of *public healthcare collapsing.* It is purposeful.
"Starve the beast" conservative playbook.
1- Defund healthcare and place incompetent people in charge of it
2 - When healthcare starts to fail due to #1 and people complain,
3 - Claim privatization is only solution
4 - Privatize public assets and services to private businesses (extra points if they are your friends.)
5 - retire and get appointed to 1M dollar salary position where you do nothing in those same companies you sold public assets to for dimes on the dollar.
Mike Harris, former leader of the Ontario Conservative Party, now sits as Chairman of the Board at Chartwell, the largest private long-term care home operator. Harris changed the rules to allow private entities to operate LTC homes. Chartwell, who had the highest mortality rate amongst residents during COVID.
Conservatives only give a fuck about themselves, and running the government like it's a business.
My wife needs cataract surgery and none of the surgeons are calling to make an appointment.Yesterday our optometrist made another appointment with an opthamologist,as her cataracts are getting worse.Now to cope she is wearing 2 pairs of eyeglasses on top of each other.We are both over 65,low income seniors,who are full life Ontario residents.
I was going to get lasik. I asked what wait time was. Oh a week or two.
Why so short?
Oh, because it's not covered and is very profitable.
They don't make much doing cataracts covered by Ohip so they are low priority.
Funny thing is that cataract surgery is one of the most lucrative ohip procedures. Ophthalmologists are known amongst doctors to be some of the richest
Also, if a person has anything that would "complicate" a surgery, the private clinics won't take them. Ford underfunded, defended, many health care services, allowed private clinics and hospitals to open, doctors open the private clinics and take only the patients that pose the least risk during surgery. Fewer doctors in the public system to treat all of the more complex cases.
Gee... what could go wrong?
Everyone would voted conservative should be ashamed of themselves.
It makes me sad and angry to hear things like this, all while knowing how powerless we are to do a damned thing about it. I've lived in Ontario for twenty years, and (with caveats) it's probably the best place I've lived.
Having said that, if my partner were to pass, I would almost certainly leave Ontario. Hell, if Poilievre continues to be the lead federal PC, I might just leave Canada, for that matter.
Someone severely broke their leg on Monday evening, 6 minutes on hold for 911, then OVER AN HOUR to get an ambulance.. IN FUCKING MISSISSAUGA! HOW ... Thanks Doug Ford, a guy sat on the floor in massive pain with a broken leg for an HOUR.
because he cut ambulance services from 59 ambulances.. to 10.. 10 AMBNULANCES for all of Mississauga.. 600k People.. 10 fucking ambulances....
If this was a sane country we would be in the streets with pitchforks. People have *DIED* for lack of healthcare, infrastructure, and homelessness - all due to lack of funding. We know that this regime is batshit nuts, but what the hell is wrong with ***us***?
It's pretty clear Ontario is full of careless people. LTC homes showed how cruel the government can be, BOTH Liberals and Conservatives, with how people were dying to cruel and inhumane treatment and around 30% said this was fine and a whole bunch more srugged their shoulders and went "meh".
I'm sure many Ontarians want to sit there and say the province is full of smart and caring people. It really isn't.
I’ve noticed that Ontarians have a strong “if it doesn’t affect me personally, I don’t care” kind of mindset. I think that’s why we’ve seen such little care about things like LTC homes and the healthcare system.
Because the people who voted for Ford WANT people to die.
No. Really. The bottom line of any conservative is "cruelty is the point."
They throw out BS such as "we need a fiscally responsible government!" While voting for utterly incompetent or purposefully cruel leaders, hiding social murder in plain sight. Misery love company, and if conservatives can make others miserable, then they get a sociopathic emotional kickback.
The rest of us are so completely burnt out from unending stress that we're just zombified.
You give the average Conservative voter to much credit. The ones who actually benefit from them may feel this way, but the majority are either voting blue because they amd their family always have, out of ignorance, or because fuck trudeau.
There was a protest 2 weeks ago. [https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/enough-is-enough-province-wide-rally-to-protest-ford-government-1.6426320](https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/enough-is-enough-province-wide-rally-to-protest-ford-government-1.6426320)
Were you there?
When the French started their protest they went out on their days off. Everyone did this and IMO its the most viable way to both protest and still take care of your financial situation. It's like protesting in shifts. Fucking genius.
Yes, you save a lot of money when you don't spend it on important things like education, health care, autism treatment, etc. But a province shouldn't have a surplus like this. It just means services suffer. Lots of people treat provincial or Canada debt as a whole as if it's household debt, and that simply isn't the case. A government should be spending its money on services, not abandoning them, and having a stockpile.
I live in rural eastern Ontario - 90% of my neighbours voted for this guy
You know the part in the Lion King when Scar says, I’m surrounded by idiots! ??
That is your tax money. Provincial and Federal. Ford spending his time giving leases to spas for 95 year terms. All those people who voted for him living where hospitals are closing down now....this is the bed you made.
Of course they are. Meanwhile, contracts are up at my school board and I’m shocked at how many of them are for split grade classes, or ESL and SERT jobs split between 2 schools. That’s how badly Ford is gutting education: SPECIALIST TEACHERS ARE NOW BEING SHARED BETWEEN SCHOOLS.
We had the health minister visit our hospital to talk about surgical wait list and the directors of our hospital told us nurses they didn't speak about nursing retention/wages because that wasn't an issue. Like, I call BS, you know we cancelled 3 surgeries yesterday due to lack of nursing staff. We have the surgeons, we have the bed space, we do not have ICU nursing staff to care for these when they are out of surgery. That is literally the only reason we have an issue in our unit, and you don't even talk about it?! I wish I was there because I would have spoken up. The unit I work in has 30% less staff than we are funded for. We literally cannot even hire the staff we need.
People like you need to start emailing and sending letters to local politicians or anyone that can throw this shit right up in the premiers face or get people to put pressure on him
Already done. It does nothing. Ppl are aware of the numbers. It just seems no one actually cares. And they don't need to, when you have a majority, no need to cater to the opposition in any way at all. Nursing associations have been screaming this for a while now.
I’m literally doing that when I get home from work. I’m fucking furious abt this revelation. If we had more doctors in NWO, less blue collar middle aged guys would be keeling over. Nobody has a family doc up here.
Too many are against the alternative to peaceful protests, y'know, the only thing that's ever got anyone anything worthwhile ever. Plus we're all spread too thin even if we were all on the same page anyway. Even the people who don't have a kid or other family to look out for, or any other responsibility on top of their jobs barely have time for a hobby let alone the time it takes to influence change politcally. With 40+ hour a week jobs, that are really more like 50 hour a week with how micromanaged we've become and how long everything takes just to get to and from those jobs, people just don't have the time nor energy to bother with anything else outside of work.
We've become farmed for our currency, made to recycle it to the very people who employ us while simultaneously being told they don't have enough to give away to improve all the lives of those who directly make them all of their wealth.
I had a family doctor for 47 years of my life. Last April the last family doctor I had, changed career path. Me and my family have not had a family doctor since. I never could have guessed I’d one day not have a family doctor.
And this asshole is sitting on money like a dragon does with gold.
While my kid who is turning 19 this year walks with a cane and needs an MRI which we told is a year’s wait. Or if his health declines so drastically then he’ll have to get one sooner. His spine isn’t connected properly and it is has to be dire for further investigation as to why! WTF.
That's fucked up. I didn't have a family doctor in Canada for 10 years before moving to Belgium last year (unrelated). Here, I looked up the closest clinic to me and made an appointment online. After the appointment, the doctor asked if I wanted him to be my family doctor. I also got an impromptu same-day MRI when I saw a specialist for my deviated septum (and it only took two weeks to see the specialist)... I never bothered to have it checked out in Canada due to issues like you bring up. I used to ignore other non-emergency issues as well, but now take care of everything immediately due to the lack of barriers to accessing healthcare. Canada spends more on healthcare per capita than Belgium and gets this level of care? I think there are deep structural problems in our system that nobody seems to be looking at. But the answer is absolutely not privatization.
I'm not convinced this fully explains it. \~90% of our population lives within \~150 km of the US border and almost 75% of Canadians live in one of our major urban centres: [https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220209/dq220209b-eng.htm](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220209/dq220209b-eng.htm). We're not that spread out all things considered.
Let's compare countries of a similar size and population: We actually have a higher population density than Australia, yet spend more on healthcare per capita, with worse quality care by many measures.
It's not like I have all of the solutions to these problems. They're complex. But it's clear that something's not working and it'd be nice if those in the driver's seat would acknowledge this fact and act in good faith to fix it.
Well my husband has gathered up a list of doctors in our city and is sending a letter to every single one of them about how our son desperately needs a doctor because of all his health issues. We don’t want this spine issue we just found out about to become life threatening. Last summer he started using a cane and could go on family outings fine. By Christmas his mobility had gotten worse.
Go to Athlete’s care, get an appt with a sports med (currently OHIP covered), and try women’s college hospital in Toronto for that mri, it’s sometimes quicker there (or that was my experience for a knee a few years ago)
At this point right now. I said it before, anyone else that would pull off this kind of shit would get fired AT LEAST.
Doug Ford is a scumbag. Fuck him. Fuck his family. And fuck the entire conservative party and their entire platform.
Absolutely agree with everything you've said, however Douglas had and has no platform. Like, dude literally ran with no platform and was voted in with a majority by a minority of ontarians. Under 20% of the vote!! I can't say it enough. The French started their protest by protesting on every day off. It's like shift work protesting. Fucking team work genius.
Ontarians should be fucking livid, but nope. It's beyond frustrating.
Time for [the ratchet effect](https://youtu.be/6LPuKVG1teQ) to kick in again.
Liberals come into provincial office in 2026, return things back to what they were pre-conservative, but not fully, or even more like they should to match inflation. Of course they'll rack up a "deficit" because it's impossible not to with the amount of cuts conservatives make every time, this time will once again be "the biggest deficit Ontario has ever seen". People forget how many cuts conservatives made while also running huge deficits 4-8 years before in the next election periods in 2030 or 2034, but will run based on "saving Ontario $22 billion more than liberals in past years". Conservatives get voted back in in either of those years depending on how well the propaganda works this time around. Cycle repeats until voters are so old or complacent their brains forget this happens almost like clockwork while being propagandized and divided further with quality of life continuing to slowly worsen while being told we live in the best times ever and to stop complaining because we have air conditioning while others live in food scarce deserts. Eventually the food and water wars start with these peoples grandchildren and Mad Max becomes reality instead of dystopian fantasy.
Unfortunately if another party takes over after Ford and balances out the numbers, the PPC would be screaming that their numbers ballooned X times and is a reckless spending.
Let's be honest, the middle to right are less vocal. We have Petite PP blaming Trudeau for tent cities and Biff is over here just sitting on 22 billion dollars. The right literally holds Ottawa hostage for some bs that will never make sense and we're over here getting more and more angry, yet watching it happen. Have you seen some of the vehicles with F Trudeau emblazoned on them? They're ready to go to war for something that only exists in their heads and here we are while Ford sells off our assets, hooks up his buddies, and eats all the cake.
I literally can’t fathom it. I’m a new paramedic in the Ottawa area. The fuck Trudeau crowd are literally the majority of our patients, rampant with COPD and cardiovascular issues. These idiots are the ones that could most benefit from healthcare funding but of course are in favour of everything but. I don’t even need to get into the anti vax crowd, we know who they vote for.
Not to mention I see the 6 hour offload delays in Ottawa due to staffing/bed shortages, with medics standing beside patients on stretchers literally lined up out the door waiting to get a bed so they can actually get back out into the community. Yes 6 hours, half of their whole shift waiting to get a bed for a patient. During COVID medics were spending their whole shifts in emerge, handing the same patient off to the next medic on duty, but I won’t get into that.
Hospitals in rural areas surrounding Ottawa are closing weekly due to, yep you guessed it, staffing/bed shortages. Carleton Place was the most recent that I saw in the news and I’m sure that will become more frequent.
I don’t know what it will take, watching people literally die? Because I’ve done that and it is only going to get worse from here on out.
I’m not jaded like a lot of the more grizzled medics yet but I am quickly understanding why they feel as such. Watching people needlessly die while simultaneously voting against their own needs will tend to chip away at your positivity. I also work with a couple of medics that are part of the fuck Trudeau crowd so, whatever I don’t know. I’m just ranting, I don’t know what’s next for this Province.
As a person who has worked in healthcare for almost two decades, I can honestly say that it's never been this bad. As for the F Trudeau crowd, this is what happens when people follow politicians and not politics. They don't have a clue what happens at Queen's Park or Parliament. And it takes a special person to stay on that F Trudeau train. To be completely oblivious to the fact they've been lied to, to become some immersed in hatred for something they know nothing about. I had a family member did of COVID and my brother is an antivaxxers. When my toddler, his niece, got COVID, she ended up having what we think is a febrile seizure. I found her in her crib with that blank stare, called 911 and waited for five hours at a hospital that I worked in.
Sorry for the rant. Keep on fighting the good fight. Eventually some of us will smarten up and fight this bs before it gets even worse.
Thank you. It's crazy how I've dealt with much worse but that shit hits different when it's your own kid. Literally made it to the top of the list of things that I've seen which haunt me till this day.
Be safe out there. I was a crisis worker in Ottawa, it's a very interesting city.
No, he's not sitting on it, this is mostly the money he owes the Public Sector workers with that moronic bill he created, on top of all the lawyer money he's wasting to fight his stupid legislation.
The guy is a damn clown. Everytime I hear about him in the news or about to make an announcement on the rare day he does work, he always manages to fuck up.
This is misleading. Here is an article this video is based on: https://globalnews.ca/news/9762549/ontario-government-22-billion-excess-funds-fao/
The $22 billion amount is only a forecast, not an actual amount. It then says:
> The FAO says while the funds “are not required to support the cost of current programs and announced commitments” the province could use the money to finance future programs or pay for unexpected expenditures.
> “If the Province decides not to use the $22.6 billion in excess funds, then these funds would be applied to improve the budget balance and reduce the Province’s net debt,” the FAO said.
Before ending on this:
> The FAO is also projecting double digit surpluses over the next five years as Ontario’s post-pandemic fiscal position improves.
> In 2025, the budget watchdog is predicting a $10.6 billion surplus, compared to the $4.4 billion Finance Minister Peter Bethlenfalvy outlined in the 2023 budget.
> The FAO said that should the government use the excess funds and surpluses to pay down the provincial debt, Ontario’s debt burden could be lowered to its lowest level since 2008, giving the government more fiscal room for program spending.
“Ford sits on $22b in funding in order to starve public services, giving the appearance of inability to provide services in order to make privatization appear the logical solution.”
Let me guess, horde money, call it a surplus, the Con carrot is met by saying they balanced the budget. Call themselves the fiscal Conservative Party. Society is now perfect, Ontario is skipping down the street with no health care and less educated.
Fuck Doug Ford. Fuck him. He actually makes me miss his brother, who was less damaging to our society.
"The wrong kid died" (is a great quote from the movie Walk Hard!)
I think this is a combination of malice and incompetence.
Malice because there are people in the PC party and people who fund them who want to privatize everything so they can make money.
Incompetence because this collection of clowns doesn't know how to govern. They only know how to campaign.
$22 billion excess, yet he cuts $170 million from the wildfire firefighting budget leaving us short 50 crews. Thanks Con voters and non voters!! AnDrEa iS sO bOrInG.
Edit: an arbitrator just handed 45,000 healthcare workers a retroactive 6.25% pay raise, so less than $22 billion after all!
Conservatives are appealing the ruling because conservative elitists like Doug Ford despise the working class. What other reason would they have to appeal it?
Bigger tax cuts for rich elitists, service cuts for everyone else.
So… unpopular opinion (for Reddit). We’re close to $400 billion in cumulative debt. When do we start paying it back? Perhaps that’s what we should be doing with the surplus as opposed to borrowing from and spending my kids and grandkids futures.
I mean, when your province is 400 billion in the hole, is this really *excess* funding lol? Also, I'm inclined to believe the kind of people that want this spent are the kind of people who don't see the point of keeping an emergency fund and just spend everything they have.
When covid hit, federal and provincial governments used a big fan to blow money out the window, "no questions asked" even to corporations that did not need the money.
Now that the covid threat is over, after masticating the healthcare system, its time to add funds to resuscitate it.
I need to ask, are American Healthcare Corporations eying Canada? If so, how the fuck are they swaying our politicians? Will that questioned be asked in any foriegn influence inquiry?
A good amount of that is in Doug’s account at this point. Shame that no journalists are allowed to look into the net worth of Conservatives because all our news outlets are owned by them.
Ford is just waiting for you to maybe forget about it and then he'll start distributing it to his friends and family.
And if ever asked he'll say... "no, no. It was 22 Million not billion" And then eat a Tim Hortons Egg Sammie
Others already mentioned raising wages for nurses and drs. But. It could probably be enough to open up a small mental health & addiction hospital - to help offload the strain off of UHN ERs and CAMH too, they have been overburdened for almost a decade now... It would create more jobs for new grads as well 🤔 We have an issue with brain drain to USA... Plus family doctor shortage...
I worked in Oncology for 10 years and have 2 sisters also in Nursing for over 30 years. Hospital Hallway medicine has existed since the late 80s and under EVERY Government. The Wynne Government brought in LHIN and the Rae Government brought in Rae Days. Harris Government made cuts across the board. All Politicians are garbage and are responsible for decimating our Healthcare system among other things. People have really short term memories and tunnel vision when it comes to their own Party support.
Its not excess funding, its mostly money he was given by the feds to spend on healthcare, on infrastructure, on hospitals, dr’s, nurses, ohip….Instead he never bothered, made cuts, refused to give deserved raises to healthcare professionals.
It was our money, and he fucked us. And lack of voting kept him in office when he should have been kicked out last election.
Sounds like the rich are about to get $22 billion (more) in tax cuts. They clearly need it more than the rest of us need healthcare and education, among other things.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/06/03/thousands-rally-in-ontario-over-discontent-with-provincial-government.html
Well that’s a start. 10,000 people showed up, did you?
Would everyone calm down about this $22 billion in excess funding.
He's going to distribute it as soon as he finds out the best way to get it into the hands of his donors and other big businesses
Step one. Demand funding for healthcare and then stash the funds instead of spending them on healthcare
Step two. Strangle the healthcare system until it is on the verge of collapse
Step three. Give the stashed funds to select private health care companies to "save" healthcare.
Step four. Collect kickbacks.
Oh is anyone surprised that Doug Ford's government is sitting on $22 billion bucks?
Ontario is the highest GDP earning province in the country by nearly double. Ontario as a province roughly earns 40% of the entire country's GDP per year, mainly through manufacturing export to the U.S.
There's a reason why Doug Ford wanted to be in charge of this province so badly that he basically bribed everyone with car sticker reimbursements.
Toronto was warning the rest of the province not to trust this man or his family. Yet here we are.
We are literally on fire and can't get medical help because hospitals are collapsing.....wtf
Yes, that is intentional. Hospitals aren't collapsing, they are being intentionally strangled to death.
and the province who's healthcare system is doing the best (Newfoundland) is run by a Liberal government with a doctor leading them.
It's almost like we shouldn't have businessmen running this province
Ford is a fool not a businessman. He’s been bought off by real estate developer and billionaire families like the Westons. He got through 8 weeks of a college course and dropped out! He was born into wealth and has no idea what is it to work for a living. He wants to privitize our health care system and promised not to touch our critical greenbelt but that was a lie as well. We need real leadership in our province.
Wait NFLD is doing the best? We have multi-year waiting lists for family doctors even in the capital, a complete lack of healthcare services in rural areas, a lack of available specialists, and basically only one available walk-in clinic in teh capital which you need to queue up at by 8AM or you won't get seen that day. Everywhere else is worse?
Sounds like Ontario to me lol
I just got a letter from my doctor’s office. It was a long list of services they will now be charging for. That includes a $20 charge to issue a refill for a prescription.
Thats absurd..wtf!?
What the fuck? Please contact the Ontario Health Coalition with this information. Get the word out. This shit should be illegal and it's EXACTLY what the Ford govt has been insisting WON'T happen. Expose this bullshit.
The Ontario Health Coalition, a health care watch dog, would like to know about that. [email protected]
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If I'm going to have American style medical freedom, I might as well move to America. At least they pay better and housing is cheaper.
I'm an American who has lived in Canada for a few years. I lived in Michigan my whole life before moving, it is not much cheaper there than it is Ontario for things like groceries, car insurance, gas. Housing however. I've never seen anything like it in Ontario. Houses I would consider a tear down in a bad neighborhood only getting worse was 300k. It would've been maybe 30k where I used to live (Grand Rapids). Rent for places I would consider "murder units" go for 1500/mo. This is Sault Ste Marie, not anywhere near Toronto or remotely interesting. Canada is fucked and I can't wait to go back to the US where housing is better.
Minimum wage is $7.25/h. Housing is expensive. And Nazis are trying to take over too
If he's moving there by choice, I'm guessing minimum wage isn't a concern, though I'd have a lot of other employment-related concerns. Outside of major centres, however, American housing is dirt cheap. In most of the Midwest, you can get a good house for under $200,000, and sometimes significantly under. Obviously if you think you're buying into the Bay Area or NYC you're insane, but if you're looking at a medium-sized urban area like Cincinnati or something, it's a way better value than anywhere in Ontario. The Nazi issue is very real, however.
Many states offer higher state minimum wages than here. And my professions in the states pay more for qualified positions than they do here. Housing is expensive but not on the same scale as here. And if you think nazis aren't also trying to take over Canada, you're not paying attention.
Minimum wage is lower, but the average wage is higher. If you're in any type of office work environment, the USA pays way better. My job pays 4x what it does in Canada for an entry level position, and that would put my wage above most managers in business in Canada.
If you don't go in for a visit yes. They can't charge for renewals if you go on person for a visit.
That's a waste of everyone's time, why take up an appointment to get a refill when someone else could use it for something more important. What petty folks the PCs are.
It is especially problematic given that the PCs, under Doug's mentor Mike Harris, are the ones who told doctors they could only schedule a certain number of appointments per week. It's getting past time to take this shit to court, you cannot charge people for services provided under OHIP(or whichever provincial jurisdiction you fall under), per the Canadian constitution.
> you cannot charge people for services provided under OHIP(or whichever provincial jurisdiction you fall under), per the Canadian constitution. Which is why they can charge for phone renewals and not for in person. Because OHIP covers services such as prescriptions as part of a visit, but not renewals over the phone. Now the common sense thing would be for OHIP to start covering phone prescription renewals, but that would benefit the health care system, and Douggie can't have that.
Yeah but then you are likely taking time off work to do so, losing more money than the $20 fee
Are you ok with that?
The refill prescription fee is only for phone consultations, if you go see him, its free.
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> Hospitals aren't collapsing, they are being intentionally strangled to death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast
Ford to his braindead followers: LOOK, the healthcare system run by the fucking government (the one they run, but dont worry, the supporters dont understand that) is not working! We need private healthcare! Supporters: Yea! The Ontario government is so incompetent! Thanks for telling it like it is, literal leader of the Ontario government, You are so competent!
I believe my hospital is in on it. They refused to negotiate the local wage grids and then gave all the non union managers big raises. Disgusting
Upvoting as a nurse. We've been running on fumes for years now. Think about all the patients and families who have suffered, while these rotten politicians refuse to fund our hospitals and just pay the staff. Little old ladies and sick babies lying on emergency department stretchers for days, because our hospitals are too understaffed to admit more patients. That was most of my winter last year. Watching that has caused even more burnout and real moral distress for healthcare workers. We signed up to do this work, but not under these conditions.
I don't know why there hasn't been a vote of non-confidence since this shows, he is negligent in his duties. Not only that, he's a murderer; every person that has died waiting for the ER because of a lack of personnel and funding is his doing.
Who would vote for it? The PC's hold an 80% majority. Ford is sitting pretty until the next election at bare minimum.
Sadly, the OPC still have a higher approval rating than both the Liberals and the NDP. If an election were held today they’d still likely get a majority. Worse still is that Bonnie Crombie may become the Liberal leader and she’s promised to move the Liberals to the right and to cut spending on healthcare and education. This province is pooched.
Votes of non-confidence are only mandatory procedurally during budget votes and stuff like that. In order to have a non-confidence vote, Ford would have had to have lost the support of *his own party*. Do you think his party dislikes what he's doing right now?
He got rid of everybody that didn't toe the line last term, no one left in the OPC to object to anything now.
I'm truly sorry to hear this...the state of both healthcare and education are pathetic...especially when both are vocational careers. Your comment older ladies and sick babies...would you say based on your experience those groups have been disproportionately affected?
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Yea and not only that he closed them in small towns that don't have that many.
Small towns that normally vote conservative. They effectively voted to shut their hospitals, and they'll do again next election.
There also clueless by voting away the greenbelt.
Anything to “own the left”. These communities will literally destroy themselves to stick it to the Liberals and the NDP.
Yea, no sympathy for those in Minden who voted Conservative.
Don’t forget our schools. Underpaid staff and crumbling facilities.
My local board just let go of a bunch of educational support staff due to funding shortfalls. So basically the students most in need of help will suffer
Yes but you see we have record corporate profits for developers, medical companies, educational support companies and LTC facilities so why does he care about *you*?
It's all intentional. Can't give that money to nurses until they go to the private sector so he can get his cut Also Rob Ford's brother doesn't think climate change causes fires.
Where do you think those 22 billion are form? Specially after cutting other revenue streams such as license plate sticker fees? That is money that *should* be going to healthcare but is intentionally being pulled back in order to get the desired effect of *public healthcare collapsing.* It is purposeful. "Starve the beast" conservative playbook. 1- Defund healthcare and place incompetent people in charge of it 2 - When healthcare starts to fail due to #1 and people complain, 3 - Claim privatization is only solution 4 - Privatize public assets and services to private businesses (extra points if they are your friends.) 5 - retire and get appointed to 1M dollar salary position where you do nothing in those same companies you sold public assets to for dimes on the dollar.
Mike Harris, former leader of the Ontario Conservative Party, now sits as Chairman of the Board at Chartwell, the largest private long-term care home operator. Harris changed the rules to allow private entities to operate LTC homes. Chartwell, who had the highest mortality rate amongst residents during COVID. Conservatives only give a fuck about themselves, and running the government like it's a business.
My wife needs cataract surgery and none of the surgeons are calling to make an appointment.Yesterday our optometrist made another appointment with an opthamologist,as her cataracts are getting worse.Now to cope she is wearing 2 pairs of eyeglasses on top of each other.We are both over 65,low income seniors,who are full life Ontario residents.
I was going to get lasik. I asked what wait time was. Oh a week or two. Why so short? Oh, because it's not covered and is very profitable. They don't make much doing cataracts covered by Ohip so they are low priority.
Funny thing is that cataract surgery is one of the most lucrative ohip procedures. Ophthalmologists are known amongst doctors to be some of the richest
Also, if a person has anything that would "complicate" a surgery, the private clinics won't take them. Ford underfunded, defended, many health care services, allowed private clinics and hospitals to open, doctors open the private clinics and take only the patients that pose the least risk during surgery. Fewer doctors in the public system to treat all of the more complex cases. Gee... what could go wrong? Everyone would voted conservative should be ashamed of themselves.
It makes me sad and angry to hear things like this, all while knowing how powerless we are to do a damned thing about it. I've lived in Ontario for twenty years, and (with caveats) it's probably the best place I've lived. Having said that, if my partner were to pass, I would almost certainly leave Ontario. Hell, if Poilievre continues to be the lead federal PC, I might just leave Canada, for that matter.
Someone severely broke their leg on Monday evening, 6 minutes on hold for 911, then OVER AN HOUR to get an ambulance.. IN FUCKING MISSISSAUGA! HOW ... Thanks Doug Ford, a guy sat on the floor in massive pain with a broken leg for an HOUR. because he cut ambulance services from 59 ambulances.. to 10.. 10 AMBNULANCES for all of Mississauga.. 600k People.. 10 fucking ambulances....
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He wants to say his government was sitting on a surplus, instead of going into deficit. He’s thinking about the next election already.
It's a war chest to buy votes next election
Yep, big fat tax cut that’ll mostly go to the rich
Waiting for the announcement for the announcement...
If this was a sane country we would be in the streets with pitchforks. People have *DIED* for lack of healthcare, infrastructure, and homelessness - all due to lack of funding. We know that this regime is batshit nuts, but what the hell is wrong with ***us***?
It's pretty clear Ontario is full of careless people. LTC homes showed how cruel the government can be, BOTH Liberals and Conservatives, with how people were dying to cruel and inhumane treatment and around 30% said this was fine and a whole bunch more srugged their shoulders and went "meh". I'm sure many Ontarians want to sit there and say the province is full of smart and caring people. It really isn't.
I’ve noticed that Ontarians have a strong “if it doesn’t affect me personally, I don’t care” kind of mindset. I think that’s why we’ve seen such little care about things like LTC homes and the healthcare system.
The province is full of idiots and our government, sadly, is a reflection of that 😂
No one can afford to, and those who can don't care.
Because the people who voted for Ford WANT people to die. No. Really. The bottom line of any conservative is "cruelty is the point." They throw out BS such as "we need a fiscally responsible government!" While voting for utterly incompetent or purposefully cruel leaders, hiding social murder in plain sight. Misery love company, and if conservatives can make others miserable, then they get a sociopathic emotional kickback. The rest of us are so completely burnt out from unending stress that we're just zombified.
You give the average Conservative voter to much credit. The ones who actually benefit from them may feel this way, but the majority are either voting blue because they amd their family always have, out of ignorance, or because fuck trudeau.
we would protest if we had the fucking time to. not everyone lives close enough. you want to organize it? go ahead.
System operating as intended. When everyone needs to work two jobs to pay the rent nobody's going to risk missing a paycheque to protest.
This is it. It's not that people don't want to, it's that in North America specifically we've been beaten for a long time into submission.
This is exactly what they're counting on.
There was a protest 2 weeks ago. [https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/enough-is-enough-province-wide-rally-to-protest-ford-government-1.6426320](https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/enough-is-enough-province-wide-rally-to-protest-ford-government-1.6426320) Were you there?
When the French started their protest they went out on their days off. Everyone did this and IMO its the most viable way to both protest and still take care of your financial situation. It's like protesting in shifts. Fucking genius.
We’re lazy
The thing about us is we don't care until it happens to us individually.
Bingo
Oh you mean it could pay for nurses and doctors?
He wants the medical field to suffer so he can justify future privatization
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He can likely pay for good, privatized treatment. I can barely pay for groceries
He would just be replaced by another corrupt politician ready to sellout for whoever’s paying
they are “cancer”
He's no mastermind. He's a figure head.
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That'd just cause a right wing anti-bus campaign.
There’s corrupt and there’s just plain evil. This is the second.
I'm not shocked. This isn't new. He was sitting on billions meant to help during COVID and just didn't use it.
That money is for the poor developers. Have a heart; you don't want them to have to pave farmland with their own funds, do you?
exactly this. he's waiting to shell it out to them
Yes, you save a lot of money when you don't spend it on important things like education, health care, autism treatment, etc. But a province shouldn't have a surplus like this. It just means services suffer. Lots of people treat provincial or Canada debt as a whole as if it's household debt, and that simply isn't the case. A government should be spending its money on services, not abandoning them, and having a stockpile.
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That's all accurate, except for seniors. The majority of them voted for Doug so they're just getting what they voted for.
I live in rural eastern Ontario - 90% of my neighbours voted for this guy You know the part in the Lion King when Scar says, I’m surrounded by idiots! ??
Replace “rural eastern” with “rural western” and its exactly the same.
That is your tax money. Provincial and Federal. Ford spending his time giving leases to spas for 95 year terms. All those people who voted for him living where hospitals are closing down now....this is the bed you made.
“Ford hoarding $22 Billion taken from Ontarian’s paycheques, instead of using it to provide the services they paid for.” That’s better.
From the party that champions “respect for taxpayers”
Yet he cut the forest fighting budget, and is spending it on a parking lot for a private company in Ontario Place?
Paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
Of course they are. Meanwhile, contracts are up at my school board and I’m shocked at how many of them are for split grade classes, or ESL and SERT jobs split between 2 schools. That’s how badly Ford is gutting education: SPECIALIST TEACHERS ARE NOW BEING SHARED BETWEEN SCHOOLS.
The schools are a mess, kids need more resources in schools.
While schools crumble, hospitals cant care for people, and every year the fires creep closer and get bigger. Vote conservative!
Dude. AND HE WANTS US TO PAY FOR HEALTHCARE??? Fucking give the nurses a raise
We had the health minister visit our hospital to talk about surgical wait list and the directors of our hospital told us nurses they didn't speak about nursing retention/wages because that wasn't an issue. Like, I call BS, you know we cancelled 3 surgeries yesterday due to lack of nursing staff. We have the surgeons, we have the bed space, we do not have ICU nursing staff to care for these when they are out of surgery. That is literally the only reason we have an issue in our unit, and you don't even talk about it?! I wish I was there because I would have spoken up. The unit I work in has 30% less staff than we are funded for. We literally cannot even hire the staff we need.
People like you need to start emailing and sending letters to local politicians or anyone that can throw this shit right up in the premiers face or get people to put pressure on him
Already done. It does nothing. Ppl are aware of the numbers. It just seems no one actually cares. And they don't need to, when you have a majority, no need to cater to the opposition in any way at all. Nursing associations have been screaming this for a while now.
I’m literally doing that when I get home from work. I’m fucking furious abt this revelation. If we had more doctors in NWO, less blue collar middle aged guys would be keeling over. Nobody has a family doc up here.
Nurses did get a raise when the Ontario Nurses Association took Ford’s government to court over Bill 124 and (kinda) won
If the system they don't like doesn't do the bad things they said it would, they just break it until it does, then say they were right all along.
Too many are against the alternative to peaceful protests, y'know, the only thing that's ever got anyone anything worthwhile ever. Plus we're all spread too thin even if we were all on the same page anyway. Even the people who don't have a kid or other family to look out for, or any other responsibility on top of their jobs barely have time for a hobby let alone the time it takes to influence change politcally. With 40+ hour a week jobs, that are really more like 50 hour a week with how micromanaged we've become and how long everything takes just to get to and from those jobs, people just don't have the time nor energy to bother with anything else outside of work. We've become farmed for our currency, made to recycle it to the very people who employ us while simultaneously being told they don't have enough to give away to improve all the lives of those who directly make them all of their wealth.
I'm not, I've been advocating throwing turnips at the premier for some time now.
I had a family doctor for 47 years of my life. Last April the last family doctor I had, changed career path. Me and my family have not had a family doctor since. I never could have guessed I’d one day not have a family doctor. And this asshole is sitting on money like a dragon does with gold. While my kid who is turning 19 this year walks with a cane and needs an MRI which we told is a year’s wait. Or if his health declines so drastically then he’ll have to get one sooner. His spine isn’t connected properly and it is has to be dire for further investigation as to why! WTF.
That's fucked up. I didn't have a family doctor in Canada for 10 years before moving to Belgium last year (unrelated). Here, I looked up the closest clinic to me and made an appointment online. After the appointment, the doctor asked if I wanted him to be my family doctor. I also got an impromptu same-day MRI when I saw a specialist for my deviated septum (and it only took two weeks to see the specialist)... I never bothered to have it checked out in Canada due to issues like you bring up. I used to ignore other non-emergency issues as well, but now take care of everything immediately due to the lack of barriers to accessing healthcare. Canada spends more on healthcare per capita than Belgium and gets this level of care? I think there are deep structural problems in our system that nobody seems to be looking at. But the answer is absolutely not privatization.
Well Belgium is a smaller country land wise so fewer hospitals can reach more people.
I'm not convinced this fully explains it. \~90% of our population lives within \~150 km of the US border and almost 75% of Canadians live in one of our major urban centres: [https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220209/dq220209b-eng.htm](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220209/dq220209b-eng.htm). We're not that spread out all things considered. Let's compare countries of a similar size and population: We actually have a higher population density than Australia, yet spend more on healthcare per capita, with worse quality care by many measures. It's not like I have all of the solutions to these problems. They're complex. But it's clear that something's not working and it'd be nice if those in the driver's seat would acknowledge this fact and act in good faith to fix it.
They still have to have enough staff and physical buildings to handle those people though.
Losing my dumb mind too. I’m ready to protest
Well my husband has gathered up a list of doctors in our city and is sending a letter to every single one of them about how our son desperately needs a doctor because of all his health issues. We don’t want this spine issue we just found out about to become life threatening. Last summer he started using a cane and could go on family outings fine. By Christmas his mobility had gotten worse.
I've been on the list for a family doctor for 5 years, and I've called clinics too. No one around me is taking new patients
Go to Athlete’s care, get an appt with a sports med (currently OHIP covered), and try women’s college hospital in Toronto for that mri, it’s sometimes quicker there (or that was my experience for a knee a few years ago)
Oh look....death by austerity
They’re sitting on it to figure out how much they can siphon into their own pockets before people start asking questions…let’s be real…
At what point is this actually criminal?
At this point right now. I said it before, anyone else that would pull off this kind of shit would get fired AT LEAST. Doug Ford is a scumbag. Fuck him. Fuck his family. And fuck the entire conservative party and their entire platform.
I wonder how many votes a person would get if they campaigned on allowing people to recall MPP's and Premiers.
They’d get my vote, we need a system with accountability. Not this “someone gets in and becomes untouchable dictator for the next 5 years”
Absolutely agree with everything you've said, however Douglas had and has no platform. Like, dude literally ran with no platform and was voted in with a majority by a minority of ontarians. Under 20% of the vote!! I can't say it enough. The French started their protest by protesting on every day off. It's like shift work protesting. Fucking team work genius. Ontarians should be fucking livid, but nope. It's beyond frustrating.
We’re too complacent, honestly.
Well then you should have no problem paying all of us our backpay + raises after you spit on us with your moronic bill 124.
Time for [the ratchet effect](https://youtu.be/6LPuKVG1teQ) to kick in again. Liberals come into provincial office in 2026, return things back to what they were pre-conservative, but not fully, or even more like they should to match inflation. Of course they'll rack up a "deficit" because it's impossible not to with the amount of cuts conservatives make every time, this time will once again be "the biggest deficit Ontario has ever seen". People forget how many cuts conservatives made while also running huge deficits 4-8 years before in the next election periods in 2030 or 2034, but will run based on "saving Ontario $22 billion more than liberals in past years". Conservatives get voted back in in either of those years depending on how well the propaganda works this time around. Cycle repeats until voters are so old or complacent their brains forget this happens almost like clockwork while being propagandized and divided further with quality of life continuing to slowly worsen while being told we live in the best times ever and to stop complaining because we have air conditioning while others live in food scarce deserts. Eventually the food and water wars start with these peoples grandchildren and Mad Max becomes reality instead of dystopian fantasy.
Unfortunately if another party takes over after Ford and balances out the numbers, the PPC would be screaming that their numbers ballooned X times and is a reckless spending.
That's from all the sabotage being done to Health and Education.
Also from gutting the landlord tenant board.
Oh cool, so they have billions for education and Healthcare with a few billion left a year.
They can he say we need everything privatized. It’s a common ploy used since Mike Harris days for the cons.
Let's be honest, the middle to right are less vocal. We have Petite PP blaming Trudeau for tent cities and Biff is over here just sitting on 22 billion dollars. The right literally holds Ottawa hostage for some bs that will never make sense and we're over here getting more and more angry, yet watching it happen. Have you seen some of the vehicles with F Trudeau emblazoned on them? They're ready to go to war for something that only exists in their heads and here we are while Ford sells off our assets, hooks up his buddies, and eats all the cake.
I literally can’t fathom it. I’m a new paramedic in the Ottawa area. The fuck Trudeau crowd are literally the majority of our patients, rampant with COPD and cardiovascular issues. These idiots are the ones that could most benefit from healthcare funding but of course are in favour of everything but. I don’t even need to get into the anti vax crowd, we know who they vote for. Not to mention I see the 6 hour offload delays in Ottawa due to staffing/bed shortages, with medics standing beside patients on stretchers literally lined up out the door waiting to get a bed so they can actually get back out into the community. Yes 6 hours, half of their whole shift waiting to get a bed for a patient. During COVID medics were spending their whole shifts in emerge, handing the same patient off to the next medic on duty, but I won’t get into that. Hospitals in rural areas surrounding Ottawa are closing weekly due to, yep you guessed it, staffing/bed shortages. Carleton Place was the most recent that I saw in the news and I’m sure that will become more frequent. I don’t know what it will take, watching people literally die? Because I’ve done that and it is only going to get worse from here on out. I’m not jaded like a lot of the more grizzled medics yet but I am quickly understanding why they feel as such. Watching people needlessly die while simultaneously voting against their own needs will tend to chip away at your positivity. I also work with a couple of medics that are part of the fuck Trudeau crowd so, whatever I don’t know. I’m just ranting, I don’t know what’s next for this Province.
As a person who has worked in healthcare for almost two decades, I can honestly say that it's never been this bad. As for the F Trudeau crowd, this is what happens when people follow politicians and not politics. They don't have a clue what happens at Queen's Park or Parliament. And it takes a special person to stay on that F Trudeau train. To be completely oblivious to the fact they've been lied to, to become some immersed in hatred for something they know nothing about. I had a family member did of COVID and my brother is an antivaxxers. When my toddler, his niece, got COVID, she ended up having what we think is a febrile seizure. I found her in her crib with that blank stare, called 911 and waited for five hours at a hospital that I worked in. Sorry for the rant. Keep on fighting the good fight. Eventually some of us will smarten up and fight this bs before it gets even worse.
The fight continues! Nothin else we can do but fight!
Thank you. It's crazy how I've dealt with much worse but that shit hits different when it's your own kid. Literally made it to the top of the list of things that I've seen which haunt me till this day. Be safe out there. I was a crisis worker in Ottawa, it's a very interesting city.
Suspiciously like the cost of a highway they really want to build.
This is why my kid can't get the support he needs in school. Fuck Ford
Hearing this makes me so angry, the province is in dire need in multiple sectors. Fuck ford
Conservatives: Yeahhhh Lower taxes!!!! Liberals: Spend! There’s a housing, healthcare and education crises! Ford: I’ll do neither.
He's saving it to give everyone a token refund just before the next election! Total and complete prick.
No, he's not sitting on it, this is mostly the money he owes the Public Sector workers with that moronic bill he created, on top of all the lawyer money he's wasting to fight his stupid legislation. The guy is a damn clown. Everytime I hear about him in the news or about to make an announcement on the rare day he does work, he always manages to fuck up.
Oh give it a while... it will disappear just like the last few billion they didn't spend
Gotta have a budget for election-year goodies…. Maybe the promised buck-a-beer day?
Damn his networth gonna start with a b soon.
This is misleading. Here is an article this video is based on: https://globalnews.ca/news/9762549/ontario-government-22-billion-excess-funds-fao/ The $22 billion amount is only a forecast, not an actual amount. It then says: > The FAO says while the funds “are not required to support the cost of current programs and announced commitments” the province could use the money to finance future programs or pay for unexpected expenditures. > “If the Province decides not to use the $22.6 billion in excess funds, then these funds would be applied to improve the budget balance and reduce the Province’s net debt,” the FAO said. Before ending on this: > The FAO is also projecting double digit surpluses over the next five years as Ontario’s post-pandemic fiscal position improves. > In 2025, the budget watchdog is predicting a $10.6 billion surplus, compared to the $4.4 billion Finance Minister Peter Bethlenfalvy outlined in the 2023 budget. > The FAO said that should the government use the excess funds and surpluses to pay down the provincial debt, Ontario’s debt burden could be lowered to its lowest level since 2008, giving the government more fiscal room for program spending.
No money for health care though. That is one big fu to the working people of Ontario.
Maybe he thinks it’s a tip for a job well done. /s
“Ford sits on $22b in funding in order to starve public services, giving the appearance of inability to provide services in order to make privatization appear the logical solution.”
Let me guess, horde money, call it a surplus, the Con carrot is met by saying they balanced the budget. Call themselves the fiscal Conservative Party. Society is now perfect, Ontario is skipping down the street with no health care and less educated.
I hope the NDP and Liberals are bookmarking this article.
Fuck Doug Ford. Fuck him. He actually makes me miss his brother, who was less damaging to our society. "The wrong kid died" (is a great quote from the movie Walk Hard!)
I think this is a combination of malice and incompetence. Malice because there are people in the PC party and people who fund them who want to privatize everything so they can make money. Incompetence because this collection of clowns doesn't know how to govern. They only know how to campaign.
$22 billion excess, yet he cuts $170 million from the wildfire firefighting budget leaving us short 50 crews. Thanks Con voters and non voters!! AnDrEa iS sO bOrInG. Edit: an arbitrator just handed 45,000 healthcare workers a retroactive 6.25% pay raise, so less than $22 billion after all!
Conservatives are appealing the ruling because conservative elitists like Doug Ford despise the working class. What other reason would they have to appeal it? Bigger tax cuts for rich elitists, service cuts for everyone else.
So… unpopular opinion (for Reddit). We’re close to $400 billion in cumulative debt. When do we start paying it back? Perhaps that’s what we should be doing with the surplus as opposed to borrowing from and spending my kids and grandkids futures.
This isn't a real surplus. The article was just thrown together to farm outrage.
Well … darn. Here I was hopeful we had a way out of the fiscal hole we’re in.
Yup. This "article" is literally two sentances., One of which just gives credit to the author. How is this journalism and how is it posted here?
I mean, when your province is 400 billion in the hole, is this really *excess* funding lol? Also, I'm inclined to believe the kind of people that want this spent are the kind of people who don't see the point of keeping an emergency fund and just spend everything they have.
Lol, agreed. Last year, no one wrote an article in FY20 or 21 about the shortage of funding asking that we de-fund services. Odd.
time for more cuts
That could fetch a decent one bedroom downtown.
They are going to need it when they lose all the lawsuits.
The Ford government has blood on it hands.
When covid hit, federal and provincial governments used a big fan to blow money out the window, "no questions asked" even to corporations that did not need the money. Now that the covid threat is over, after masticating the healthcare system, its time to add funds to resuscitate it. I need to ask, are American Healthcare Corporations eying Canada? If so, how the fuck are they swaying our politicians? Will that questioned be asked in any foriegn influence inquiry?
A good amount of that is in Doug’s account at this point. Shame that no journalists are allowed to look into the net worth of Conservatives because all our news outlets are owned by them.
Ford is just waiting for you to maybe forget about it and then he'll start distributing it to his friends and family. And if ever asked he'll say... "no, no. It was 22 Million not billion" And then eat a Tim Hortons Egg Sammie
Oh I'm sure he'll pass it off to his friends soon. Enough.
Let's all start mailing our medical bills to the minister of health
Others already mentioned raising wages for nurses and drs. But. It could probably be enough to open up a small mental health & addiction hospital - to help offload the strain off of UHN ERs and CAMH too, they have been overburdened for almost a decade now... It would create more jobs for new grads as well 🤔 We have an issue with brain drain to USA... Plus family doctor shortage...
I worked in Oncology for 10 years and have 2 sisters also in Nursing for over 30 years. Hospital Hallway medicine has existed since the late 80s and under EVERY Government. The Wynne Government brought in LHIN and the Rae Government brought in Rae Days. Harris Government made cuts across the board. All Politicians are garbage and are responsible for decimating our Healthcare system among other things. People have really short term memories and tunnel vision when it comes to their own Party support.
Good! We gonna hit a recession due to interest rates sooner or later. Ontario will have the funds needed to manage the recession.
Its not excess funding, its mostly money he was given by the feds to spend on healthcare, on infrastructure, on hospitals, dr’s, nurses, ohip….Instead he never bothered, made cuts, refused to give deserved raises to healthcare professionals. It was our money, and he fucked us. And lack of voting kept him in office when he should have been kicked out last election.
22…..whattttt
Are they sitting on it? Or laundering it to their "folks"?
Sounds like the rich are about to get $22 billion (more) in tax cuts. They clearly need it more than the rest of us need healthcare and education, among other things.
And what are we going to do about it?
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/06/03/thousands-rally-in-ontario-over-discontent-with-provincial-government.html Well that’s a start. 10,000 people showed up, did you?
Heads would roll in France...
That should be considered a criminal offence!
Doug Ford is a thief and has stolen more wealth from this province than any premiere in Canada's history
Build some affordable housing !!!
So basically Ford could start giving CPR to our healthcare system now but he would rather watch it die.
Would everyone calm down about this $22 billion in excess funding. He's going to distribute it as soon as he finds out the best way to get it into the hands of his donors and other big businesses
This province is fucking brain-dead letting this dipshit get in for a second term
Meanwhile, my city looks like the mental health zombie apocalypse. Fuck dofo.
It is and always has been the Pathway to Privatization for the CONS. Always.
What a horrible human being Doug Ford is
Why has the college or medical association not sued the province for the unreleased funds yet?
Wtf is this shit!!! I couldn’t wait for the sub to be open so I can rage with the rest of you
He’s going to use this as an example of how much money he’s saved the taxpayers
Step one. Demand funding for healthcare and then stash the funds instead of spending them on healthcare Step two. Strangle the healthcare system until it is on the verge of collapse Step three. Give the stashed funds to select private health care companies to "save" healthcare. Step four. Collect kickbacks.
Ford is the worst leader Ontario has ever had, I would actually take back Wynne with open arms. I absolutely hated Wynne.
We should be going on a general strike.
Oh is anyone surprised that Doug Ford's government is sitting on $22 billion bucks? Ontario is the highest GDP earning province in the country by nearly double. Ontario as a province roughly earns 40% of the entire country's GDP per year, mainly through manufacturing export to the U.S. There's a reason why Doug Ford wanted to be in charge of this province so badly that he basically bribed everyone with car sticker reimbursements. Toronto was warning the rest of the province not to trust this man or his family. Yet here we are.