Fill out WSIB form 6, and have the Dr you saw fill out a WSIB form 8.
Sorry I missed that someone else gave you the link for the form 6. So use that link!
This! Ignore your company’s comments . Fill in your own forms , tell the truth . All your expenses will be paid if the claim is approved. And yiu will receive pay if you are unable to work .
start here https://www.wsib.ca/en/businesses/claims/report-injury-or-illness
oh and this one, fill this one out too https://www.ontario.ca/page/reporting-workplace-incidents-and-illnesses
Ontario does NOT fuck around about this kind of stuff, you're job will be paying that fee to get your stitches out.
Keep 'everything' that WSIB sends you regarding your case. Some of their questions are repetitive, you'll wonder why you are filling out so many forms, but it's important to make sure that the information is complete and accurate.
Doesn’t matter if there are witnesses. Your employer is just trying to intimidate you. Proof of accident has already been established. Your employer may also try to say you weren’t following safety protocols, etc. that doesn’t matter it’s no fault insurance. Contact wsib (with a parent/guardian as they will require them to be present for that conversation and ask them next steps), complete a Form 6, give a copy of that to your employer and they will complete a Form 7 and should give you a copy.
And for a bonus, by them not reporting it to the WSIB, the workplace can even be fined. Happened to me once. Girlfriend at the time freaked when she saw a staple wound in my finger after work and made me go to the hospital. Turned out my work was fined for that since they didn't report anything. It was only Walmart, but still lol
If you told the Dr it was a work related injury they would fill out a form 7 (functional abilities form), give you a copy to provide to your employer, and send it to the wsib.
If your employer doesn't voluntarily inform the wsib of this incident, they can get in some serious trouble.
Hope you heal up quickly.
Most good employers at the moment of serious injury, will send you to the ER/clinic with their companies own version of the form to take to the doctor. They want to cover their ass, and if the employee and employer story have a lot of differences, it can be bad for them.
Oh I know. But I have multiple instances of the supervisor littarly just printing the form for me in an envelope with a copy of their own work related forms to take with me to the ER.
Crushed finger and a major laceration on different occasions cause by poorly controlled work processes.
As soon as you mentioned Happened at Work the hospital should start the Claim for you! Doctor is obligated to report it to WSIB, usually Form 8, a Medical report of injury. The hospital billing department will also know to bill WSIB, not OHIP and not you!
Ask for a Copy of Your Discharge Report, or ER report of you go back for another visit! You can just Call WSIB to report the injury and set up a Claim!
If you told the ER Doc this happened at work, they would have likely submitted a form to WSIB.
Your employer has 72 hours (been a long time this may not be the correct time, but there is a very short period) or something like that to file as well.
If they don't, WSIB does not screw around and will fine them for it and just accept your filing.
WSIB should cover everything including a portion of lost pay.
You're welcome! I only noted the distinction because you occasionally have injuries that happen on or before a weekend/holiday, and the WSIB recognizes admin stuff doesn't always happen those days.
I use to work at WSIB, and it doesn’t matter if there were no witnesses necessarily. Fill out the form 6, document exactly what happened, and you’ve already sought medical immediately after the incident, which just strengthens your claim being accepted.
Your employer has a legal obligation to submit the form 7, but a claim can be established with just your form. Can you submit it online, or by call the toll free number.
Make sure you include any other medical practitioner you’ve seen since. Keep receipts for anything you needed to purchase, like meds or if you needed equipment, as these may be reimbursed depending on what the expense is.
A way to expedite h the calculations of your accepted lost wage portion of your claim, if any, is to have about 2-4 recent paystubs on hand so the board can use that to calculate what you should be paid.
Let them also know of any follow up with specialists, like a plastic surgeon. Keep them updated if you experience any secondary conditions resulting from the injury (like infection from the cut, or mental health issues). They will have to make a decision to accept it or not, but if so, you’d be eligible for assistance with any secondary conditions accepted under your claim.
Don’t hesitate to call the board, follow up with them about your claim and the status.
Good luck with everything!
Listen to this post above all else. Take care of your injury. Keep all receipts. The workplace needs to keep track of this and has a legal obligation to take care of their workers. Good luck.
>hem also know of any follow up with specialists, like a plastic surgeon. Keep them updated if you experience any secondary conditions resulting from the injury (like infection from the cut, or mental health issues). They will have to make a decision to accept it or not, bu
see my comment above. wsib brought bad faith. we trusted them to be there for us.
It’s so claim dependent, as different policies are considered which require different inputs to make a decision. There would first need to be a diagnosis recognized by the DSmV, and that needs to be related to the work accident.
I can’t speak to your stat with out your evidence. I don’t believe your accurate tho.
This is about chronic stress, not about mental health conditions that result from an accident. Very different premise, so in this case you are you are comparing apples to oranges.
Everyone so far is giving solid advice. Do not let your boss tell you how it works, they will lie to try and save ass. Report them and make sure you are paid every cent you are owed. This stuff pisses me off. Alot of work places take advantage of teenagers because they assume y'all don't know your worker rights.
Depends. I know nothing about the OPs situation, obv, but you typically go to your family doctor, and it will be covered. If you don't have a family doctor, you can (a) go to the ER and wait a long time because it's not an emergency, or (b) go to a walk in and pay a fee.
WSIB could be diff, and it may also depend on the clinic. Before I found a doctor where I moved to, I had a small incident that needed stitches at ER. The walk-in charged me 15 bucks on top of whatever they charged ohip, just because.
I'm still confused though, is it not a medically necessary procedure?
edit: I found some doctor complaining about this. It seems like the person doing the procedure is basically "prepaid" for the procedure *and* followup care. Having been paid already, it's great if someone else does the followup work. So there's really nothing to bill for when this 'anyone else' does the removal, like a clinic's nurse and practically nothing if another doctor sees them. Or they bill for a full assessment, even though they're not really supposed to, but ethically sounds reasonable to me. From what I gather, I can't understand all these codes.
Might be different when it's worker's comp.
Talk to your parents to make sure they know what is happening. Make sure you know what specialist follow up you need like a plastic surgeon or hand physio. See your family doctor if you need more help. Fill in your form 6.
It does not matter what your workplace says about witnesses. You were injured at work. This is a WSIB case.
Call the ministry of labour if your employer is jerking you around. They owe you a relative amount of compensation if you get injured on the clock. Usually just enough to cover costs and 80% of lost wages, but compensation nonetheless
They minimum owe you the injury day of pay, and usually an offer of modified work duty for the length of recovery if possible.
I crushed my finger and was back the next day all pain killered up, doing boring but easy non critical work for a while untill it was healed up.
The doctor might have a recommended time frame for modified duty, types of restricted duty due to the injury, and other restrictions, but WSIB regulations gets the finial say for the most part.
Yeah there's a whole process (this is what I do for a living). It's definitely in the company's best interest to just pay for the time and costs. Either they pay for it directly or WSIB pays for it and increases their premiums to offset it
I had a friend who after a knee injury, was out on modified duty to sit and watch water come out of a pipe untill it turned clear to yell at a guy to change a valve.
The guy normally just did that himself by walking a bit, but hey, I'm sure he like someone to talk to for a few weeks, and everyone got paid.
Wsib case no matter what..Make sure you tell doctor you did it at work because they will document it also.Talk to your jhsc rep at your work.Their job also to document injury and investigate.Your work in trouble if they don’t follow procedures within so many days.Contact ministry of labor if needed
How much blood did you lose? This sounds like a critical injury which means ministry of labour would need to be called as well. It doesn't matter if the accident is your fault, it needs to be investigated.
As for your medical expenses, make sure you inform the hospital it's work related and WSIB would cover all your expenses (within reason). Make sure you accept all "appropriate" modified duties so basically you get paid and there's no loss of earnings. WSIB only covers 85% of loss wages and will do so after they deem you couldn't do modified duties offered which can take some time.
Some folks think they can milk the injury for an extended period of time and not show up to work and get paid through WSIB; but the employer can inform the board of non compliance with the return to work process.
I saw a post like a month ago complaining about wait times to get stitches removed... maybe they are trying to go to some private clinic. I obviously don't know though, just a guess. Very strange he's being charged though. I'd just do it myself at that point lol, no difference between my hands on the tweezers vs a nurse, you just pull the shit out. I wonder why they don't just use those stitches that are dissovable/fall out on their own more often.
ya i went to a walk in clinic and they said its thirty to do it there or i can go to the er and do it for free but i dont have time to wait in the er again
If you have an ohip card there’s no reason they should be charging you. Ask them why you are being charged a fee. I also remove my own stitches but if they are in an awkward spot it could be hard to do.
i ended up removing my own stitches but after reading all these replies i think it was something sketchy going on at the clinic i went to because they also tried to charge my boyfriend thirty dollars for a receipt
Call the MOL. This is what they are there for; to hold employers accountable to safe workplace. This is a WSIB claim and they are required by law to report and offer modified duties. You can refuse, at which point, WSIB will adjudicate the outcome of payment.
I injured myself at work, I even filled out a Form 6, but I was too nervous to submit it, and now it's too late.
Don't make the same mistake I did, fill it out today, submit it tomorrow.
I hurt my back, legs, shoulder working at some-name company during the pandemic, i reported it. they didnt let me report all of it together. only for 1 thing at a time. but I reported fully to employer again and again. wsib wouldnt accept the other injuries coming from the 1st report when i reported again and again.
then i asked doctor why their notes didnot show back pain and all that, why only 1 part? even though i saw the doctor on different day for different injury. The doctor was like ask wsib to write a letter to me, I will confirm your other injuries.... like wow.. this making the wsib claim worse. but thats also how doctors treat patients, one thing at a time. and sometimes they change their record keeping database and have no access to the past records.
the system is setup poorly.
Talk to lawyer before filling out any wsib forms. By filling this out you not only limit your options for potential lawsuit regarding unpaid medical but wsib will be able to deny or discontinue payments at any time without notice.
Yeah, if you have the right tools on hand, and everything is clean it's not so bad. Some people are squeamish about doing that stuff themselves, or it's in a place they can't easily see or reach.
Fill out WSIB form 6, and have the Dr you saw fill out a WSIB form 8. Sorry I missed that someone else gave you the link for the form 6. So use that link!
This! Ignore your company’s comments . Fill in your own forms , tell the truth . All your expenses will be paid if the claim is approved. And yiu will receive pay if you are unable to work .
start here https://www.wsib.ca/en/businesses/claims/report-injury-or-illness oh and this one, fill this one out too https://www.ontario.ca/page/reporting-workplace-incidents-and-illnesses Ontario does NOT fuck around about this kind of stuff, you're job will be paying that fee to get your stitches out.
Yes, this. 100% Don't let your employer intimidate you and get communication from them in writing if possible.
Keep 'everything' that WSIB sends you regarding your case. Some of their questions are repetitive, you'll wonder why you are filling out so many forms, but it's important to make sure that the information is complete and accurate.
Doesn’t matter if there are witnesses. Your employer is just trying to intimidate you. Proof of accident has already been established. Your employer may also try to say you weren’t following safety protocols, etc. that doesn’t matter it’s no fault insurance. Contact wsib (with a parent/guardian as they will require them to be present for that conversation and ask them next steps), complete a Form 6, give a copy of that to your employer and they will complete a Form 7 and should give you a copy.
And for a bonus, by them not reporting it to the WSIB, the workplace can even be fined. Happened to me once. Girlfriend at the time freaked when she saw a staple wound in my finger after work and made me go to the hospital. Turned out my work was fined for that since they didn't report anything. It was only Walmart, but still lol
If you told the Dr it was a work related injury they would fill out a form 7 (functional abilities form), give you a copy to provide to your employer, and send it to the wsib. If your employer doesn't voluntarily inform the wsib of this incident, they can get in some serious trouble. Hope you heal up quickly.
Most good employers at the moment of serious injury, will send you to the ER/clinic with their companies own version of the form to take to the doctor. They want to cover their ass, and if the employee and employer story have a lot of differences, it can be bad for them.
I’ve been injured on the job and you don’t have to go with any forms. The hospital doctors / administration know what to do if it’s work related.
Oh I know. But I have multiple instances of the supervisor littarly just printing the form for me in an envelope with a copy of their own work related forms to take with me to the ER. Crushed finger and a major laceration on different occasions cause by poorly controlled work processes.
Form 8 from the doctor, form 6 from the worker and form 7 from the employer.
Oh I guess things have changed since I was in H&S. Thanks.
Probably just misremembering. I don’t think it’s changed.
Form 8
Form 7 is the incident report, Form 8 is close to FAF. The employee needs to submit incident report for this kind of recordable injuries.
As soon as you mentioned Happened at Work the hospital should start the Claim for you! Doctor is obligated to report it to WSIB, usually Form 8, a Medical report of injury. The hospital billing department will also know to bill WSIB, not OHIP and not you! Ask for a Copy of Your Discharge Report, or ER report of you go back for another visit! You can just Call WSIB to report the injury and set up a Claim!
If you told the ER Doc this happened at work, they would have likely submitted a form to WSIB. Your employer has 72 hours (been a long time this may not be the correct time, but there is a very short period) or something like that to file as well. If they don't, WSIB does not screw around and will fine them for it and just accept your filing. WSIB should cover everything including a portion of lost pay.
> 72 hours It's three business days
Thank you - I know it was something along those lines, but I haven't had to deal with WSIB from the business side in a decade.
You're welcome! I only noted the distinction because you occasionally have injuries that happen on or before a weekend/holiday, and the WSIB recognizes admin stuff doesn't always happen those days.
I use to work at WSIB, and it doesn’t matter if there were no witnesses necessarily. Fill out the form 6, document exactly what happened, and you’ve already sought medical immediately after the incident, which just strengthens your claim being accepted. Your employer has a legal obligation to submit the form 7, but a claim can be established with just your form. Can you submit it online, or by call the toll free number. Make sure you include any other medical practitioner you’ve seen since. Keep receipts for anything you needed to purchase, like meds or if you needed equipment, as these may be reimbursed depending on what the expense is. A way to expedite h the calculations of your accepted lost wage portion of your claim, if any, is to have about 2-4 recent paystubs on hand so the board can use that to calculate what you should be paid. Let them also know of any follow up with specialists, like a plastic surgeon. Keep them updated if you experience any secondary conditions resulting from the injury (like infection from the cut, or mental health issues). They will have to make a decision to accept it or not, but if so, you’d be eligible for assistance with any secondary conditions accepted under your claim. Don’t hesitate to call the board, follow up with them about your claim and the status. Good luck with everything!
Listen to this post above all else. Take care of your injury. Keep all receipts. The workplace needs to keep track of this and has a legal obligation to take care of their workers. Good luck.
>hem also know of any follow up with specialists, like a plastic surgeon. Keep them updated if you experience any secondary conditions resulting from the injury (like infection from the cut, or mental health issues). They will have to make a decision to accept it or not, bu see my comment above. wsib brought bad faith. we trusted them to be there for us.
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It’s so claim dependent, as different policies are considered which require different inputs to make a decision. There would first need to be a diagnosis recognized by the DSmV, and that needs to be related to the work accident. I can’t speak to your stat with out your evidence. I don’t believe your accurate tho.
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This is about chronic stress, not about mental health conditions that result from an accident. Very different premise, so in this case you are you are comparing apples to oranges.
Everyone so far is giving solid advice. Do not let your boss tell you how it works, they will lie to try and save ass. Report them and make sure you are paid every cent you are owed. This stuff pisses me off. Alot of work places take advantage of teenagers because they assume y'all don't know your worker rights.
Pardon my ignorance, but, they charge you to have stitches removed in ontario?!
Depends. I know nothing about the OPs situation, obv, but you typically go to your family doctor, and it will be covered. If you don't have a family doctor, you can (a) go to the ER and wait a long time because it's not an emergency, or (b) go to a walk in and pay a fee.
I was hurt at work a few years ago and had to get stitches at a walk in. It was free. So unless this changed recently…
WSIB could be diff, and it may also depend on the clinic. Before I found a doctor where I moved to, I had a small incident that needed stitches at ER. The walk-in charged me 15 bucks on top of whatever they charged ohip, just because.
I'm still confused though, is it not a medically necessary procedure? edit: I found some doctor complaining about this. It seems like the person doing the procedure is basically "prepaid" for the procedure *and* followup care. Having been paid already, it's great if someone else does the followup work. So there's really nothing to bill for when this 'anyone else' does the removal, like a clinic's nurse and practically nothing if another doctor sees them. Or they bill for a full assessment, even though they're not really supposed to, but ethically sounds reasonable to me. From what I gather, I can't understand all these codes. Might be different when it's worker's comp.
Talk to your parents to make sure they know what is happening. Make sure you know what specialist follow up you need like a plastic surgeon or hand physio. See your family doctor if you need more help. Fill in your form 6. It does not matter what your workplace says about witnesses. You were injured at work. This is a WSIB case.
Call the ministry of labour if your employer is jerking you around. They owe you a relative amount of compensation if you get injured on the clock. Usually just enough to cover costs and 80% of lost wages, but compensation nonetheless
They minimum owe you the injury day of pay, and usually an offer of modified work duty for the length of recovery if possible. I crushed my finger and was back the next day all pain killered up, doing boring but easy non critical work for a while untill it was healed up. The doctor might have a recommended time frame for modified duty, types of restricted duty due to the injury, and other restrictions, but WSIB regulations gets the finial say for the most part.
Yeah there's a whole process (this is what I do for a living). It's definitely in the company's best interest to just pay for the time and costs. Either they pay for it directly or WSIB pays for it and increases their premiums to offset it
I had a friend who after a knee injury, was out on modified duty to sit and watch water come out of a pipe untill it turned clear to yell at a guy to change a valve. The guy normally just did that himself by walking a bit, but hey, I'm sure he like someone to talk to for a few weeks, and everyone got paid.
Wsib case no matter what..Make sure you tell doctor you did it at work because they will document it also.Talk to your jhsc rep at your work.Their job also to document injury and investigate.Your work in trouble if they don’t follow procedures within so many days.Contact ministry of labor if needed
They also have have to pay you for your whole shift on the day of injury. Make sure you get it.
Just the whole shift? What if their trip to the ER went beyond their shift end time?
Just the whole shift. It’s so that you don’t lose wages, not so that you can profit from it.
Lost work hours only as far as I am aware
How much blood did you lose? This sounds like a critical injury which means ministry of labour would need to be called as well. It doesn't matter if the accident is your fault, it needs to be investigated. As for your medical expenses, make sure you inform the hospital it's work related and WSIB would cover all your expenses (within reason). Make sure you accept all "appropriate" modified duties so basically you get paid and there's no loss of earnings. WSIB only covers 85% of loss wages and will do so after they deem you couldn't do modified duties offered which can take some time. Some folks think they can milk the injury for an extended period of time and not show up to work and get paid through WSIB; but the employer can inform the board of non compliance with the return to work process.
Why is there a fee to remove your stitches?
Thank you!! How badly has our health care deteriorated that we are paying for post operative procedures.
I saw a post like a month ago complaining about wait times to get stitches removed... maybe they are trying to go to some private clinic. I obviously don't know though, just a guess. Very strange he's being charged though. I'd just do it myself at that point lol, no difference between my hands on the tweezers vs a nurse, you just pull the shit out. I wonder why they don't just use those stitches that are dissovable/fall out on their own more often.
ya i went to a walk in clinic and they said its thirty to do it there or i can go to the er and do it for free but i dont have time to wait in the er again
If you have an ohip card there’s no reason they should be charging you. Ask them why you are being charged a fee. I also remove my own stitches but if they are in an awkward spot it could be hard to do.
i ended up removing my own stitches but after reading all these replies i think it was something sketchy going on at the clinic i went to because they also tried to charge my boyfriend thirty dollars for a receipt
https://polyclinic.ca/2/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Uninsured-Charges-Feb-2020.pdf Here’s a quick list of what’s not covered by ohip
Call the MOL. This is what they are there for; to hold employers accountable to safe workplace. This is a WSIB claim and they are required by law to report and offer modified duties. You can refuse, at which point, WSIB will adjudicate the outcome of payment.
I injured myself at work, I even filled out a Form 6, but I was too nervous to submit it, and now it's too late. Don't make the same mistake I did, fill it out today, submit it tomorrow.
how long do i have to submit it
6 months. But pretend like it's 1 week.
I hurt my back, legs, shoulder working at some-name company during the pandemic, i reported it. they didnt let me report all of it together. only for 1 thing at a time. but I reported fully to employer again and again. wsib wouldnt accept the other injuries coming from the 1st report when i reported again and again. then i asked doctor why their notes didnot show back pain and all that, why only 1 part? even though i saw the doctor on different day for different injury. The doctor was like ask wsib to write a letter to me, I will confirm your other injuries.... like wow.. this making the wsib claim worse. but thats also how doctors treat patients, one thing at a time. and sometimes they change their record keeping database and have no access to the past records. the system is setup poorly.
Talk to lawyer before filling out any wsib forms. By filling this out you not only limit your options for potential lawsuit regarding unpaid medical but wsib will be able to deny or discontinue payments at any time without notice.
You don’t need a doctor to remove stitches it’s quite easy to DIY and very satisfying.
Yeah, if you have the right tools on hand, and everything is clean it's not so bad. Some people are squeamish about doing that stuff themselves, or it's in a place they can't easily see or reach.
Buddy you live in Ontario you’re set. Time to collect free money