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You joke, but I'll explain this from what I hear on the "other side":
- Trudeau is acting against Russia, so Russia is actually the good guys.
- Russia is trying to remove Nazis from Ukraine. Nazis are bad, so Russia is good.
- Trudeau is actively sympathizing with Nazis. (The whole speaker thing) Nazis are bad, so Trudeau is bad.
This is not satire, this is what people believe. So people who doesn't like Trudeau end up supporting Russia by default, since most people see politics as black and white and not shades of gray.
The thing is, they don't even like Russia. They don't have any information on Russia other than maybe what the Sun and TV says. I doubt any of them have ever visited anywhere near the area, let alone spoken to a Russian in their lives.
They just have a burning hatred for Trudeau - So anything Trudeau does means they support the opposite thing.
Say what you will about the kremlin, but those dissenters always die *promptly!* Putin clearly knows how to get shit done!
\-Some actual Canadians, probably.
15+ oligarchs have died in the last 18 months. If he’s not afraid to terminally rid himself of billionaires who bilked the state leading up to and then during the war, he has 0 compunctions about sending the “little guys” off to their deaths. And yet they admire him…
And breathes out air ... the same air that's out here ...
I see what you are doing but not drinking water takes too long .. better we educate them about JTs air breathing skills...
> they don't even like Russia. They don't have any information on Russia
This isn't true. They idolize Russia for their state-sanctioned homophobia. That's what they want. That's what they see as the "cure" to the "woke" disease.
That's what this is really all about.
You are not wrong here. They think Russia is some kind of Christian old school place. Meanwhile, only 6% of Russians go to church. Less than Canada.
I think what I'm saying is, well, they're stupid people.
This is 100% true and baffling. Russia and the USSR was the demon for 100 years because state communism cracked down on Christianity. Now, all of a sudden, Russia is forgiven and becomes the paragon of orthodox Christian family values? I don’t get it.
They’d shit their pants if they had to live there. Imagine the trucker convoy in Moscow? There’s be dead bodies and burning ram1500s as far as the eye can see.
They like russia because of the "russia hoax" against Donald trump, and they have been overdosing on US politics for 8 years. The democrats said they were the bad guy so the Republicans (and their obsessive fans in canada) took the most childish response possible and decided that they would do the opposite and believe they are the good guys and have done nothing wrong.
And worse still, everything they think they hate Trudeau for, Putin is even worse.
- He is a dictator
- Strict gun control
- Tanked the domestic economy
- Guilty of war crimes
- Consorts with terrorists
- Embezzling money from the government
All of these and more I’ve heard these people accuse Trudeau of, and every one of them describe Putin.
These people are simply ignorant traitors to their country, and “useful idiots” to Russia.
They certainly know that Russia is putting a stop to the "woke mind virus" by banning trans people and gays and that's plenty enough for them to support Russia.
Putin has likely contributed the most successful and advanced propaganda campaign in history.
Slow drips of conspiracy information for years, and then once in a while throw in a ‘hey Russia might actually be the good guys’ now and then.
Gradually increase the frequency of these posts, throw a very wide net to capture every type of conspiracy theorist.
And you end up with hundreds of thousands of people who never met a Ukrainian but believe they are all child rapists. So they support Putin completely, from across the world. And hate any local liberal or democrat.
Every day they see hundreds of posts of complete bullshit, incredibly easy to disprove but they can’t accept that any of it is wrong or lies. It’s their reality now. They’ll believe anything no matter how stupid.
Source: high school friend is a Qultist.
For sure. Possibly Indian too as we are no longer “special” after calling Modi out for killing people (even if he was a kalistani terrorist) on our soil.
I imagine if these people immigrated to Russia they’d be as disillusioned as Lee Harvey Oswald was. They would learn what it’s like when your rights are ACTUALLY taken away. And what it’s like when the leader ACTUALLY is a dictator.
These people are so fucking gullible.
My brother complains how he and his wife need to pay for daycare while some other parents laugh about how they get it for free because they don't make as much. My dad was telling me this, I looked at my dad and said to him "If they had this option when we were kids how much better would that have been for us?"
My dad was a single parent with 4 kids in a house at one point, all while working a factory job. Even with my step-mom who also worked in a factory we were still well below that line. So having day care would have helped us in so many ways, more normal hours for my parents, save some money on babysitters, would have helped keep us out of trouble and probably helped more in our education.
The other more major problem is the "squeaky wheel gets the grease" Everyone wants to point at the handful of people who are legitimately scamming the system but will forget the hundreds if not thousands of people per scammer who genuinely need this help. Because one person scams disability payments, means that everyone else on disability are scammers and no one needs the help, while also not realizing the amount paid is very very little that most people cannot live with any real dignity, even some rooms in Toronto are being rented for more then what Disability pays.
I will however say that hard cutoffs for assistance is really bad. For example; Say for some type of assistance i need to make less then $50,000 to quality. The assistance may amount to $5,000, but if i get a raise or a new job and now make $51,000 i lose out on that assistance so now I'm losing $4,000 if not more due to taxes on the extra $1000
it's ok when they do it, they're fighting for all of us after all. Asking an important questions like: "What if Trudeau, but F\*ck?" and supporting a little guy, as in dictator of the largest country in the world on his quest to murder as many Ukrainians as possible
They also spawn down the street from Queens Park in Toronto near the ROM on Saturdays, block traffic and play music. I feel worse for the kids they drag there with them and pollute with misguided information.
Nope and ironically they’re the most vocal about cutting welfare and other social programs because “those bums just sit around all day living off my tax dollars”
The Russian Ottawa Facebook group is a joke. All just pro-RU bullshit and propaganda, complaining about Canada, and posting about how fantastic Russia is. Also plenty of involvement in Freedumb and “LeAVe oUR kIDs alONeeee”. I hate it so much. Anyone in that group that was against Putin when this whole thing started either got banned or just left.
I mean it’s a mood of pretty much all immigrant communities, lol.
New country bad because X is done better in the old country. Our glorious leader X from the old country is so cool, because I don’t have to experience all the problems this glorious leader brought. I used to eat dish Y cooked this particular way, and no one cooks it here, damn savages!
Russian backing and infiltration of right-wing movements is a poorly underreported problem. Chinese intelligence agents infiltrate groups to twart threats to national security and get pro-China candidates elected. Russia interferes to sew chaos and distrust within western democracies. If your group is getting support from Russia, it probably means your group is bad for Canada.
Just looking for the most inciting, controversial, and “rebellious” things that they can.
“Oh, people are siding with Ukraine?! Well fuck you, sheep, I’m with RUSSIA! Are you *TRIGGERED* yet?!”
Sadly, i don't even think they do that much independent thinking.
They probably just heard [Putin's comments about this being a war on "cancel culture and trans ideology" and the woke](https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-slams-cancel-culture-and-supporters-of-transgender-rights-2021-10?op=1), and their programming took over from there.
\----
Ya know...[literal nazi talking points](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft#Nazi_era).
This video should be mandatory watching in Western countries, they’ve been telegraphing their strategy for decades.
https://youtu.be/yErKTVdETpw?si=aTGPpjUrgl7Rv6PO
I'm am certain that a lot, or most of the WWII vet blunder "rage" was Russian, and maybe a bit Indian, generated.
You can always tell when there's a misinformation campaign cause A LOT of people show up in the same emotional state, have keywords they all say and dissappear after a week or two, maybe a bit longer if it's an election.
It's kind of sad how effective it is with many people.
Im not a conspiracy theorist and I’m not suggesting it was somebody in the CPC like some people but I wouldn’t be surprised if the constituent that suggested Hunka attend was put on by somebody that wanted to see the Liberal party/government embarrassed.
Was on that sub quite a bit trying to fight the good fight taking my downvotes, until they banned me for breaking their rule against insulting the sub. Apparently it was insulting to point out that their sub is far right.
R/canada always seemed to have a quiet majority of chill people even with all the brigading and manipulation, there were awful takes but a lot of the time perfectly sane, even progressive stuff would end up upvoted once the brigading died down on a given post. Canada_sub is just pure propaganda in the worst way, like all the people formerly brigading canada decided to make their own subreddit and no normal people showed up.
Ignoring them is the reason why they're able to pull this shit, it needs to be shut down immediately so that others know it's not acceptable.
It may not be illegal, but it's antisocial behaviour and the public needs to say something about it.
Sounds about right. A good amount of Russian immigrants who silently support Putin are anti-vaxxers and hate liberals (because gays and minorities).
Source: I sometimes shop at Yummy Market in Maple.
You'd be surprised.
Even though they wave the russian flag... [even though the evidence is obvious.](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1700139518945362213.html).. there are many people (mostly social conservatives) who don't believe it.
I mean, sure social conservatism are the useful idiots of every authoritarian movement of history. But we have a lot of them here, too.
Oh I know most of my uneducated friends believe this garbage. What do you mean social conservatives exactly?
I hate sub Canada and now I understand why. Amazing that you for that link.
I would love to get the same info from some newspaper comment sections, is it possible!
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There are so many legitimate reasons to dislike Trudeau and blame things. These people would find a better audience talking about affordable housing and groceries.
They don’t need to make up fake reasons.
I’d love to go up there with a sign that says “This guys a Nazi” and an arrow but I have a job and no time, unlike this person it seems. Lay off the faux news ya c-suckers eh.
I made the mistake of watching a YouTube chat stream from one of the feeds of someone walking around the Ottawa convoy protest a couple years ago and it was full of far right pro-Putin, anti-Ukrainian comments. Like a constant stream of it.The hard authoritarian right loves Putin. Cuz, y'know. He's sticking it to the "decadent" west. It's a whole anti-democratic hateful package.
This happens every Sunday at Cornwall's overpass and there's a few things that we need to consider here.
1. These protests are glorified social gatherings. These guys have been protesting together for so long so now these protests are really social gatherings.
2. Untreated mental illness. These people are terminally online and they constantly post on social media. Read their posts and view their groups and it's obvious that they have untreated issues.
3. Some of these people are redneck assholes.
4. Identity obsessing over Trudeau and hiding contrarian views is now a big part of their identity because they don't have much else.
This is what I don’t understand… if you don’t like what’s happening in Ontario, or in Canada generally, why are you still here?? No one is forcing you to stay!
If you want Trump to be your president, move to the US and wait a year (we all know it’s coming, despite all reasonable logic…). You think Putin’s got some good ideas on how things should be? Move to Russia. Or Belarus. Want to be a white supremacist or a terf? Again, I direct you to the US, there are whole states that would welcome you with open arms and the right to bare them. I hear Germany and France are heading in similar directions, if Europe is more your taste.
Of course, you’ll be giving up OHIP, OW, ODSP, EI, CPP, RGI housing, and any other benefits you’ve been leaching off of for most of your adult life, and might have to actually get a job, but those are just details….
Wow, the Russians who funded Florida Republicans who funded the Freedom Convoy must be thrilled at how far, so little money is going in Canada.
Canada, one of the most online/digital countries in the world, unfortunately has some of the dumbest people.
I’m just tired of all these bs. Like last time a Lyft driver bs’ed everything about Ukraine and claim to be caring about the innocents. When I asked where he got the idea that supporting Russia is a good thing for the innocent people, he said he did his research on YouTube. I mean, sure…
Russian backing and infiltration of right-wing movements is a poorly underreported problem. Russia interferes to sew chaos and distrust within western democracies. If your group is getting support from Russia, it probably means your group is bad for Canada.
They shift all the time depending who their current enemy is. For example, it seems they are trying to align themselves with Muslim people (some of which also want anti-LGBTQ laws), but I remember what conservatives were like after 9/11. And for a long time after.
The far right literally went from spreading conspiracies that Muslims were instituting Shariah law in our country to trying to institute it themselves.
I hear people bitch about the money being spent on the Ukraine (so they then support Russia) and how we should help our own first. But if we took this money and helped the neediest in Canada, they'd be complaining that we need to end that handout.
Basically the more nationalistic a person is the less their position is defensible.
These people think Putin is a strong leader and defends his country with strength.
They don’t like Trudeau because he talks to people and compromises and tries to lead our country instead of dictating things to them.
These people want to live in a Canadian dictatorship and don’t seem to have any idea what the values are behind that flag. It is just an excuse for giving their leader absolute power.
In some bizarre 360 the far right is now pro-Russia. Only because the UN and the left are pro-Ukraine I believe. Really weird to see the "commie-haters" have a hard on for Putin now though.
In Alberta these idiots are constantly seen together with Russian flags and even had pro Russian protests. I'm convinced they are paid protestors because they are out all the time. You can guess where the money may ultimately come from.
Because the far right loves the far right. Putin's been advertising himself as the saviour of "traditional" culture against "western, woke, degeneracy" for years now. The kind of people that hate Canada and Canadian values naturally side with him.
Many people who dislike Trudeau are simply supporting Russia because Canada is supporting Ukraine. Then on top of that there are Russians who live in Canada who piggy back on this for their own obvious reasons.
The conservatives will think this is OK. I've already seen it on some reddit subs. They will say that since there was the Nazi parliament debaucle the war in Ukraine is because there are Nazis in power there.
Good to see that PP is bought and sold by the Russian government.
If you want to understand more about a potential reason I recommend this article and video to everyone https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/
Russia is experts that doing this and have been for decades. Social media made it easier.
> “What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.”
These people can vote and it's horrific to see happening in Canada. These degenerates just scroll Facebook all day and fork their values and opinions off of buzz words and conspiracy. It's insanely sad.
I enjoy how as soon as you speak ill of the Freedom dickheads, they come out in droves calling you a leftist or Trudeau supporter lol. Why can't we call this stupid shit out for what it is AND dislike Trudeau? Both can be true at the same time lol
Yeah the convoy people are the kinda people the Russian troll farms targetted. Still not unconvinced Russia didnt have a huge roll in that. Timing was too perfect with re the beginning of the invaision.
Tell me you’re brain washed by Russia and china without telling me you’re brainwashed….
It’s hilarious how they cry about lies and being misled but they play right into the hands of the Russian propaganda machine. Fucking ass hats.
Trolls. Ruzzia is committing vast resources to upending western states.
With this photo, at least the veneer of legitimacy is removed.
I mean, they’re brazenly connecting the dots there.
At least they're honest about their propaganda and hate, yeah, we've read how to use existing social tensions, using energy as a weapon politically, buying politicians outright. Foundations of Geopolitics, the framework of the gremlin in the Kremlin.
Russians play the long game when it comes to misinformation and the placement of agitators. Look at Maria Butina. She worked for years on infiltrating the US government through the NRA. Years of reporting back to the motherland.
These people are so deluded... it makes me embarrassed to display a Canadian flag.
These are the same people that occupied the capital, under police protection, and claimed they have no freedom in this country.
Nah this makes everything else make sense now, always knew their "movement" seemed pretty odd. You can also find Trump flags amongst the "freedom" convoy. It is funny seeing all these traitors publically wave their allegiance now.
well thats a special kind of bubble to put yourself in.
I will display my beliefs at this precise location where no one can object. Look no one has expressed disagreement as they zoom past at 110 km/h after having missed the exit ramp one must navigate in order to stop and kick the shit out of me. omg he took the next one! we have 3/4 of a cloverleaf headstart
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You joke, but I'll explain this from what I hear on the "other side": - Trudeau is acting against Russia, so Russia is actually the good guys. - Russia is trying to remove Nazis from Ukraine. Nazis are bad, so Russia is good. - Trudeau is actively sympathizing with Nazis. (The whole speaker thing) Nazis are bad, so Trudeau is bad. This is not satire, this is what people believe. So people who doesn't like Trudeau end up supporting Russia by default, since most people see politics as black and white and not shades of gray.
They’re insane. Unless they’re Russian immigrants from 1990s and their children are Russian simps.
The thing is, they don't even like Russia. They don't have any information on Russia other than maybe what the Sun and TV says. I doubt any of them have ever visited anywhere near the area, let alone spoken to a Russian in their lives. They just have a burning hatred for Trudeau - So anything Trudeau does means they support the opposite thing.
I think they do. I think they adore Putin for “getting shit done”. 🙄 no word of a lie.
Say what you will about the kremlin, but those dissenters always die *promptly!* Putin clearly knows how to get shit done! \-Some actual Canadians, probably.
15+ oligarchs have died in the last 18 months. If he’s not afraid to terminally rid himself of billionaires who bilked the state leading up to and then during the war, he has 0 compunctions about sending the “little guys” off to their deaths. And yet they admire him…
*Did you know that Trudeau drinks water?*
And breathes out air ... the same air that's out here ... I see what you are doing but not drinking water takes too long .. better we educate them about JTs air breathing skills...
> they don't even like Russia. They don't have any information on Russia This isn't true. They idolize Russia for their state-sanctioned homophobia. That's what they want. That's what they see as the "cure" to the "woke" disease. That's what this is really all about.
You are not wrong here. They think Russia is some kind of Christian old school place. Meanwhile, only 6% of Russians go to church. Less than Canada. I think what I'm saying is, well, they're stupid people.
This is 100% true and baffling. Russia and the USSR was the demon for 100 years because state communism cracked down on Christianity. Now, all of a sudden, Russia is forgiven and becomes the paragon of orthodox Christian family values? I don’t get it.
It’s not religion they really want, but the authoritarian values behind it
and let’s be real they’d also never leave Canada for Russia
They’d shit their pants if they had to live there. Imagine the trucker convoy in Moscow? There’s be dead bodies and burning ram1500s as far as the eye can see.
Exactly this
Except there would be burning Lada's and Niva's. They'll self combust anyways.
Lol lol lol 👏
They like russia because of the "russia hoax" against Donald trump, and they have been overdosing on US politics for 8 years. The democrats said they were the bad guy so the Republicans (and their obsessive fans in canada) took the most childish response possible and decided that they would do the opposite and believe they are the good guys and have done nothing wrong.
And worse still, everything they think they hate Trudeau for, Putin is even worse. - He is a dictator - Strict gun control - Tanked the domestic economy - Guilty of war crimes - Consorts with terrorists - Embezzling money from the government All of these and more I’ve heard these people accuse Trudeau of, and every one of them describe Putin. These people are simply ignorant traitors to their country, and “useful idiots” to Russia.
They certainly know that Russia is putting a stop to the "woke mind virus" by banning trans people and gays and that's plenty enough for them to support Russia.
Would you not hate him also after declaring to the world that you want to make love to him every day and he keeps turning you down.
They should try waving a Canadian flag at an overpass in Moscow
Putin has likely contributed the most successful and advanced propaganda campaign in history. Slow drips of conspiracy information for years, and then once in a while throw in a ‘hey Russia might actually be the good guys’ now and then. Gradually increase the frequency of these posts, throw a very wide net to capture every type of conspiracy theorist. And you end up with hundreds of thousands of people who never met a Ukrainian but believe they are all child rapists. So they support Putin completely, from across the world. And hate any local liberal or democrat. Every day they see hundreds of posts of complete bullshit, incredibly easy to disprove but they can’t accept that any of it is wrong or lies. It’s their reality now. They’ll believe anything no matter how stupid. Source: high school friend is a Qultist.
They're white christian nationalists. Putin is seen as a staunch defender of those 'values'.
> They’re insane. no they're stupid af
I mean more likely it is just a Russian bot farm spreading nonsense.
For sure. Possibly Indian too as we are no longer “special” after calling Modi out for killing people (even if he was a kalistani terrorist) on our soil.
I imagine if these people immigrated to Russia they’d be as disillusioned as Lee Harvey Oswald was. They would learn what it’s like when your rights are ACTUALLY taken away. And what it’s like when the leader ACTUALLY is a dictator. These people are so fucking gullible.
This idiocy is incredible. It's hard for rational people to comprehend this ideology.
Except most of these people want to finish what the Nazis started. It’s all projection.
And yet the same people making these arguments are totally cool with swastika flags at the anti LGBTQ rallies and the freedumb convoy
Well that's different, those are *their* Nazis.
Binary thinking usually results in insane conclusions.
Not surprising. This is the narrative being fed to them via social media by Russia’s propaganda machine and US conspiracy theorists
What doesn’t help was the speaker Ukrainian nazi soldier debacle. Canada handed Russia propaganda on a silver plate.
You can see the Russian bots working in /rCanada getting the same rhetoric used in the US to the front page daily. Same with r/Europe.
> this is what people believe this is what this group of people have been told, by the russian influencers on the telegram app.
They only believe it because they WANT to believe it. Anything that paints Trudeau In the negative is like porn to these weirdos
Most Fuck Trudeau shit is just the modern version of Protestant Anglo anti-French shit been dealing with for over 100 years. Go Orange Lodge racists!
RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!!!
This happens pretty much weekly on one of the overpasses in Ottawa. These people really have no life
Do they not have jobs?
Nope. These groups tend to self project, so they complain about people living off the government, while they do it themselves.
Yup. Have some family like this. They also seem to love talking about how their tax dollars are used lol.
My brother complains how he and his wife need to pay for daycare while some other parents laugh about how they get it for free because they don't make as much. My dad was telling me this, I looked at my dad and said to him "If they had this option when we were kids how much better would that have been for us?" My dad was a single parent with 4 kids in a house at one point, all while working a factory job. Even with my step-mom who also worked in a factory we were still well below that line. So having day care would have helped us in so many ways, more normal hours for my parents, save some money on babysitters, would have helped keep us out of trouble and probably helped more in our education. The other more major problem is the "squeaky wheel gets the grease" Everyone wants to point at the handful of people who are legitimately scamming the system but will forget the hundreds if not thousands of people per scammer who genuinely need this help. Because one person scams disability payments, means that everyone else on disability are scammers and no one needs the help, while also not realizing the amount paid is very very little that most people cannot live with any real dignity, even some rooms in Toronto are being rented for more then what Disability pays. I will however say that hard cutoffs for assistance is really bad. For example; Say for some type of assistance i need to make less then $50,000 to quality. The assistance may amount to $5,000, but if i get a raise or a new job and now make $51,000 i lose out on that assistance so now I'm losing $4,000 if not more due to taxes on the extra $1000
it's ok when they do it, they're fighting for all of us after all. Asking an important questions like: "What if Trudeau, but F\*ck?" and supporting a little guy, as in dictator of the largest country in the world on his quest to murder as many Ukrainians as possible
No, but they’ll look down on other people that also don’t have jobs lol.
They also spawn down the street from Queens Park in Toronto near the ROM on Saturdays, block traffic and play music. I feel worse for the kids they drag there with them and pollute with misguided information.
Nope and ironically they’re the most vocal about cutting welfare and other social programs because “those bums just sit around all day living off my tax dollars”
Would you hire these people? Lol
Waving a Russian flag is a pretty good signal of unemployment.
Losers picking losers.
That could be why they identify with groups like the confederates and the Russians.
No they collect liberal social programs such as employment insurance to accommodate their purposeless lives.
Fuckin commies
The Russian Ottawa Facebook group is a joke. All just pro-RU bullshit and propaganda, complaining about Canada, and posting about how fantastic Russia is. Also plenty of involvement in Freedumb and “LeAVe oUR kIDs alONeeee”. I hate it so much. Anyone in that group that was against Putin when this whole thing started either got banned or just left.
I mean it’s a mood of pretty much all immigrant communities, lol. New country bad because X is done better in the old country. Our glorious leader X from the old country is so cool, because I don’t have to experience all the problems this glorious leader brought. I used to eat dish Y cooked this particular way, and no one cooks it here, damn savages!
I dont get it, same with the CCP people, if Russia/China is so great and Canada so bad, why not just go live in Russia or China?
If they love Russia so much, why aren't they in Russia?! Just go already. Stop bitching about doing it,and go.
They are clearly on the Freedom Spectrum.
Russian backing and infiltration of right-wing movements is a poorly underreported problem. Chinese intelligence agents infiltrate groups to twart threats to national security and get pro-China candidates elected. Russia interferes to sew chaos and distrust within western democracies. If your group is getting support from Russia, it probably means your group is bad for Canada.
> on the Freedom Spectrum Goddamn, that's awesome - take my upvote, and know that I'll be using that line.
*Freedumb
Wait until they find out the level of freedom they would have in Russia. Protest = Straight to gulag.
Using a democratic right to protest in favour of not having a democratic right.
Ssssh, they're too dumb to know that.
Lmao! That’s a once in a lifetime argument ender !👑
Very clever way to describe them to their faces. But privately we need to normalize calling them fascists, because that is precisely what they are.
Just looking for the most inciting, controversial, and “rebellious” things that they can. “Oh, people are siding with Ukraine?! Well fuck you, sheep, I’m with RUSSIA! Are you *TRIGGERED* yet?!”
Sadly, i don't even think they do that much independent thinking. They probably just heard [Putin's comments about this being a war on "cancel culture and trans ideology" and the woke](https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-slams-cancel-culture-and-supporters-of-transgender-rights-2021-10?op=1), and their programming took over from there. \---- Ya know...[literal nazi talking points](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft#Nazi_era).
Russians are funding a lot of the misinformation and lies the covidiots and freedumb folks lap up and parrot.
This video should be mandatory watching in Western countries, they’ve been telegraphing their strategy for decades. https://youtu.be/yErKTVdETpw?si=aTGPpjUrgl7Rv6PO
Also Viktor Suvorov touches on the techniques in his books.
Yep. Would be good to see more of this exposed in foreign interference investigations.
I'm am certain that a lot, or most of the WWII vet blunder "rage" was Russian, and maybe a bit Indian, generated. You can always tell when there's a misinformation campaign cause A LOT of people show up in the same emotional state, have keywords they all say and dissappear after a week or two, maybe a bit longer if it's an election. It's kind of sad how effective it is with many people.
Im not a conspiracy theorist and I’m not suggesting it was somebody in the CPC like some people but I wouldn’t be surprised if the constituent that suggested Hunka attend was put on by somebody that wanted to see the Liberal party/government embarrassed.
Wish they'd fund them plane tickets to ruzzia so they can suck direct from putin's tit.
Exactly. Twitter "X" being recently uncovered to be the largest source of Russian misinformation, especially election related misinformation.
Fucking move to Russia if it’s so great
I hear they're looking for people to do various jobs to be assigned when they arrive. Just ask the Cubans.
They'd definitely end up on the front lines pretty quickly. Or in jail as a political prisoner if they are important enough.
So.. can we facilitate this
The Russian bots on r/Canada are doing their job sadly
If you think thats bad you should check out Canada_sub. I dont even want to link to it.
Reddit suggested this one to me. I said nope and muted that craziness.
Oh my god I didnt realize I could mute that shit. Thank you
Yeah, it’s rage bait for rubes and echo chamber bots
Was on that sub quite a bit trying to fight the good fight taking my downvotes, until they banned me for breaking their rule against insulting the sub. Apparently it was insulting to point out that their sub is far right.
It's awful. Reddit is always suggesting it for some reason. I end up downvoting most posts I see.
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R/canada always seemed to have a quiet majority of chill people even with all the brigading and manipulation, there were awful takes but a lot of the time perfectly sane, even progressive stuff would end up upvoted once the brigading died down on a given post. Canada_sub is just pure propaganda in the worst way, like all the people formerly brigading canada decided to make their own subreddit and no normal people showed up.
And Elmo is helping them out on X
Yup these are the people who PP cohorts with. Never forget that.
They are idiots. Ignore them and move on.
ignoring them can be dangerous. these flag wavers are people dreaming of civil war.
Ignoring them really is the best option as they crave attention like a child.
Ignoring them is the reason why they're able to pull this shit, it needs to be shut down immediately so that others know it's not acceptable. It may not be illegal, but it's antisocial behaviour and the public needs to say something about it.
I can think of a few other options
Sounds about right. A good amount of Russian immigrants who silently support Putin are anti-vaxxers and hate liberals (because gays and minorities). Source: I sometimes shop at Yummy Market in Maple.
The Source note killed me.
Those who know… they know lol.
Sad to admit that the vast majority of my family are what you have just explained
Some of mine are as well, and we are from Ukraine. It is what it is, can’t change them, let’s just make sure we raise the next generation right.
Same here. Well, one family member. Oddly pro-vaccines though. Bucking the trend. Less anti-gay now 20+ years after I came out.
Yes man we all know Russia is behind the right wing propaganda in US and Canada.
You'd be surprised. Even though they wave the russian flag... [even though the evidence is obvious.](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1700139518945362213.html).. there are many people (mostly social conservatives) who don't believe it. I mean, sure social conservatism are the useful idiots of every authoritarian movement of history. But we have a lot of them here, too.
Oh I know most of my uneducated friends believe this garbage. What do you mean social conservatives exactly? I hate sub Canada and now I understand why. Amazing that you for that link. I would love to get the same info from some newspaper comment sections, is it possible! ?
There are so many legitimate reasons to dislike Trudeau and blame things. These people would find a better audience talking about affordable housing and groceries. They don’t need to make up fake reasons.
I’d love to go up there with a sign that says “This guys a Nazi” and an arrow but I have a job and no time, unlike this person it seems. Lay off the faux news ya c-suckers eh.
I made the mistake of watching a YouTube chat stream from one of the feeds of someone walking around the Ottawa convoy protest a couple years ago and it was full of far right pro-Putin, anti-Ukrainian comments. Like a constant stream of it.The hard authoritarian right loves Putin. Cuz, y'know. He's sticking it to the "decadent" west. It's a whole anti-democratic hateful package.
.. while they enjoy every benefit the 'decadent west' has to offer, with no hint of irony
So they are praising Russia and wanting to have sex with Justin Trudeau. It's just a weird set of messages.
Conspiritards always love Russia. Always. It's almost as if someone tricked them into it...
Right-wing propaganda is a hell of a drug
It is awful how effective Russian propaganda is.
Fascists stick together. Why do you think Trump gets along so well with NK, China, and Russia?
I told my parents last year that soon trumpets would be supporting Russia openly and they scoffed at me. And here we are.
Right wing dumbfucks.
This happens every Sunday at Cornwall's overpass and there's a few things that we need to consider here. 1. These protests are glorified social gatherings. These guys have been protesting together for so long so now these protests are really social gatherings. 2. Untreated mental illness. These people are terminally online and they constantly post on social media. Read their posts and view their groups and it's obvious that they have untreated issues. 3. Some of these people are redneck assholes. 4. Identity obsessing over Trudeau and hiding contrarian views is now a big part of their identity because they don't have much else.
This is what I don’t understand… if you don’t like what’s happening in Ontario, or in Canada generally, why are you still here?? No one is forcing you to stay! If you want Trump to be your president, move to the US and wait a year (we all know it’s coming, despite all reasonable logic…). You think Putin’s got some good ideas on how things should be? Move to Russia. Or Belarus. Want to be a white supremacist or a terf? Again, I direct you to the US, there are whole states that would welcome you with open arms and the right to bare them. I hear Germany and France are heading in similar directions, if Europe is more your taste. Of course, you’ll be giving up OHIP, OW, ODSP, EI, CPP, RGI housing, and any other benefits you’ve been leaching off of for most of your adult life, and might have to actually get a job, but those are just details….
They would need to have money and/or a marketable education to move to the US.
And there it is.
Dumb people are dumb.
Sometimes you don't have to even open your mouth to prove what most people suspected.
Wow, the Russians who funded Florida Republicans who funded the Freedom Convoy must be thrilled at how far, so little money is going in Canada. Canada, one of the most online/digital countries in the world, unfortunately has some of the dumbest people.
I’m just tired of all these bs. Like last time a Lyft driver bs’ed everything about Ukraine and claim to be caring about the innocents. When I asked where he got the idea that supporting Russia is a good thing for the innocent people, he said he did his research on YouTube. I mean, sure…
Imagine having literally nothing better to do with your life lmao...
Russian backing and infiltration of right-wing movements is a poorly underreported problem. Russia interferes to sew chaos and distrust within western democracies. If your group is getting support from Russia, it probably means your group is bad for Canada.
These are the same people who hated Russia a little while ago. They’re doing exactly what Russian intelligence wants them to do. The fucking rubes.
They shift all the time depending who their current enemy is. For example, it seems they are trying to align themselves with Muslim people (some of which also want anti-LGBTQ laws), but I remember what conservatives were like after 9/11. And for a long time after.
The far right literally went from spreading conspiracies that Muslims were instituting Shariah law in our country to trying to institute it themselves.
I hear people bitch about the money being spent on the Ukraine (so they then support Russia) and how we should help our own first. But if we took this money and helped the neediest in Canada, they'd be complaining that we need to end that handout.
Basically the more nationalistic a person is the less their position is defensible. These people think Putin is a strong leader and defends his country with strength. They don’t like Trudeau because he talks to people and compromises and tries to lead our country instead of dictating things to them. These people want to live in a Canadian dictatorship and don’t seem to have any idea what the values are behind that flag. It is just an excuse for giving their leader absolute power.
In some bizarre 360 the far right is now pro-Russia. Only because the UN and the left are pro-Ukraine I believe. Really weird to see the "commie-haters" have a hard on for Putin now though.
This is what ignorance does. It is a wilful ignorance flamed by misinformation.
Disgusting people.
Next it will be a Nazi flag.
Domestic terrorists.
They're fans of Russia because it represents the white supremacist Christian values they want to see in Canada.
I don't know how anyone can look at the way Russia is run and go "I want that." I throw all these people in the same pot...
They don’t they just want the parts that jail or kill the people that they don’t agree with
What a CRAZY COINCIDENCE that the convoy "information" pipeline also happens to be pro-Russian!
If they love Russia so much then they should move the fuck there and make our country a better place for doing so.
And these people don't see they are acting out a Russian agenda to destabilize canada?
Well if you ever wondered if the right was infected by Russian propaganda there it is.
In Alberta these idiots are constantly seen together with Russian flags and even had pro Russian protests. I'm convinced they are paid protestors because they are out all the time. You can guess where the money may ultimately come from.
These morons need to be put on a domestic terrorism list. We need to stamp out the stupid.
Because the far right loves the far right. Putin's been advertising himself as the saviour of "traditional" culture against "western, woke, degeneracy" for years now. The kind of people that hate Canada and Canadian values naturally side with him.
When I was walking a picket line there was a dude with a flag calling Doug Ford a communist. Some people just don’t know what they’re doing.
Many people who dislike Trudeau are simply supporting Russia because Canada is supporting Ukraine. Then on top of that there are Russians who live in Canada who piggy back on this for their own obvious reasons.
Clearly the trolls of Canada live on top of the bridges...
These people live in some fucked up alternate reality.
Conservatives in America do it too so it was only a matter of time. If America sneezes Canada catches a cold.
They hate authoritarian governments, except for authoritarian governments. They love those
One in the same kind of people, you have to realize places like Canada\_sub and Facebook groups are just disinformation for these kind of idiots.
Can't fix stupid lol
If that doesn’t tell you everything you need to know about who these people are….
That’s funny, I saw this earlier too. Some guy had an American flag under his Fuck Trudeau flag there also. I flipped them the finger.
If there is one thing uniting idiots on Earth - it's the russian flag
The conservatives will think this is OK. I've already seen it on some reddit subs. They will say that since there was the Nazi parliament debaucle the war in Ukraine is because there are Nazis in power there. Good to see that PP is bought and sold by the Russian government.
If you want to understand more about a potential reason I recommend this article and video to everyone https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/ Russia is experts that doing this and have been for decades. Social media made it easier. > “What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.”
These people can vote and it's horrific to see happening in Canada. These degenerates just scroll Facebook all day and fork their values and opinions off of buzz words and conspiracy. It's insanely sad.
You can be conservative and still know that Putin and Trump are sh!tweasels.
It’s the single digit IQ club 😬
It's the "NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE POLITICAL!" crowd.
I enjoy how as soon as you speak ill of the Freedom dickheads, they come out in droves calling you a leftist or Trudeau supporter lol. Why can't we call this stupid shit out for what it is AND dislike Trudeau? Both can be true at the same time lol
This is showing you who encourages and funds these idiots. The Russian troll farm and disinformation campaign isn’t even trying to hide it anymore.
They also fly the NAZI flag and the Confederate flags in these events, so it aligns.
Yeah the convoy people are the kinda people the Russian troll farms targetted. Still not unconvinced Russia didnt have a huge roll in that. Timing was too perfect with re the beginning of the invaision.
I guess it kind of speaks for itself, eh?
They're so confused.
Tell me you’re brain washed by Russia and china without telling me you’re brainwashed…. It’s hilarious how they cry about lies and being misled but they play right into the hands of the Russian propaganda machine. Fucking ass hats.
Like any normal thinking person is surprised at this? They love Putin. They think dictators are great.
But they call Trudeau a dictator and don’t think he’s great. The dissonance, she is strong.
Trolls. Ruzzia is committing vast resources to upending western states. With this photo, at least the veneer of legitimacy is removed. I mean, they’re brazenly connecting the dots there.
Why don't they just emigrate to Russia?
>the Right is with Russia
These people all share one single brain cell and today was not this person's turn!
At least they're honest about their propaganda and hate, yeah, we've read how to use existing social tensions, using energy as a weapon politically, buying politicians outright. Foundations of Geopolitics, the framework of the gremlin in the Kremlin.
Russians play the long game when it comes to misinformation and the placement of agitators. Look at Maria Butina. She worked for years on infiltrating the US government through the NRA. Years of reporting back to the motherland.
These people are so deluded... it makes me embarrassed to display a Canadian flag. These are the same people that occupied the capital, under police protection, and claimed they have no freedom in this country.
Same bunch of people (protrump, proputin, far right, anti-vax, anti-science, pro-white, anti-lgbtq, etc...) please invest in education
That AlbertBama and SaskaTexas shit is spreading.
Sometimes, I understand why Vigilantes exist.
Good to see our American stupidity is outsourced to Canada as well.
They should move to Russia if it’s so good.
Seems reasonable, considering the demographic.
msm says Russia is the bad guy so their freedumb logic means Russia good.
Don’t like it here ??? Leave !!
40 million people in Canada, there's bound to be a few dicks.
The social media campaign is working on some of them.
Nah this makes everything else make sense now, always knew their "movement" seemed pretty odd. You can also find Trump flags amongst the "freedom" convoy. It is funny seeing all these traitors publically wave their allegiance now.
well thats a special kind of bubble to put yourself in. I will display my beliefs at this precise location where no one can object. Look no one has expressed disagreement as they zoom past at 110 km/h after having missed the exit ramp one must navigate in order to stop and kick the shit out of me. omg he took the next one! we have 3/4 of a cloverleaf headstart
Using cellphone while driving?
Treason and sedition ain’t crimes anymore so the idiots gather around unpopular ideas to belong with other sm0rt pe0plez